RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

[Random Internet Person]

They made Salem overpowered in proportion to her setting and gave her goals that made her impossible for the heroes to bribe away or reach an accord with (she seeks to rule Remnant and drain the magic from the Maidens). That means the only ways this can end are:

A. She gets a forced redemption arc especially if Cinder overthrows her.
B. Ruby pulls a shiny new magic outta a plot sewer and ends Salem.
C. Salem wins or at least doesn't lose.

We'll get A or B.

There’s also D. Silver Eyes knock down Salem, only for Salem to come back with a new monster form because this show is already a bootleg Final Fantasy and Monty loved his JRPGs.

 

[LordBaron]

Spoiler: This is gonna be pretty long

These are pretty milquetoast & Barbara, while a massive bitch, is not the worst person of all time who's also an english VA (That crown of shame is still on Amanda Winn Lee's head & it'll stay for a while) & others in just Rooster Teeth itself do worse, but out of all 4 RWBY actors, Barbara's the worst, followed by Arryn (aka Brunette Barbara)

Can't take criticism:
Takes the Patrick Soderland's Battlefield V approach when people remotely criticize RWBY or Yang or just her as a person in general. Blocks people on people calling her out, such as here. You can check "Barbara Dunkelman block" on YT to see other people talking about it.

https://youtu.be/ok5HmPq0vU4

You'll find a lot of simps in the way:

https://youtu.be/FH58-Kht4zA

While it's known that nobody in Rooster Teeth can take criticism, they also (to a certainly low extent) try to keep their spergy mouths shut. Barbara doesn't even do that, she buries herself & the show deeper everytime someone calls her out.

An example: https://youtu.be/XthMuPsaS_c

Karma Houdini:
She's also known to play Karma Houdini everytime on controversies, there was one time where she sent her simpy fans & RT staff on Piers Morgan for a simple typo. She neither called them off, nor apologized. Instead, she got hailed as a hero by people.

There's an imgur post about it which doesn't work anymore, but just google "Piers Morgan Barabara Dunkelman"

Edit:
Thanks Fougaro: https://youtu.be/28rqWUFjBj8

Being a bad partner:
Her ex Aaron broke up with her due to being controlling & hot-headed. It also makes you realize how Adam suddenly became the same & why some say that VAs have more control of RWBY most of the time than writers.

Thinks she's some big shit:
6 years ago from now, she basically bitched about how non-celebs (basically normal people) with low followers shouldn't have a twitter just because they're not celebs & have a low follower count.

In other words, it's bascially the low follower ad-hominem used by twitter people who can't handle arguments, alongside anime pfp, pronouns in bio, etc.

But in her case, she just wants them to not exist alltogether.

https://youtu.be/28rqWUFjBj8

She also disillusioned someone's faith in RWBY by shouting out "IT'S A CARTOOOOOOOOON!"

 

[Random Internet Person]

She also disillusioned someone's faith in RWBY by shouting out "IT'S A CARTOOOOOOOOON!"

I actually know that guy on Discord. Also, here’s the video of that. https://streamable.com/k1zvh

Also, he left a comment on a video in which that comment appeared.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

I don't know. It could work, I think. I mean, yeah if the silver eyes end up as a deus ex machina to defeat Salem that would be bad writing.

But, I do think that if the silver eyes had that power, it could at least explain why Salem is doing subterfuge tactics despite being OP. If Salem is fearing Ruby might be able to kill her if she got to close to her, that could explain a lot of what she is doing like recruiting people to do things she should be able to easily do herself.

Kinda like how Aku avoided Samurai Jack despite being basically invincible otherwise. Jack had a magic sword that could kill him so the villain had to be indirect on his approach and break the heroes' spirit or stealing the sword.

But... knowing them I doubt it's their intent.

This is gonna be another Mass Effect indoctrination theory thing, where the writers accidentally write something competent.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

I actually know that guy on Discord. Also, here’s the video of that. https://streamable.com/k1zvh

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Holy fuck, imagine being so mediocre at your jobs that you make your own shills a better human, a better creator & a guy who does your job better.

Also, Did Miles actually made the one character known as his own self insert a fucking creep & a degenerate daredevil who could've became a potential necrophiliac if Pyrrha didn't turn to Pyrrhashes.

BTW, does that guy have a YT or something where he posts test animations or demo reels?

 

[Random Internet Person]

Holy fuck, imagine being so mediocre at your jobs that you make your own shills a better human, a better creator & a guy who does your job better.

Also, Did Miles actually made the one character known as his own self insert a fucking creep & a degenerate daredevil who could've became a potential necrophiliac if Pyrrha didn't turn to Pyrrhashes.

BTW, does that guy have a YT or something where he posts test animations or demo reels?

All I know is that he spent a good amount of time thinking about the question, and his takeaway was that Miles and Kerry don’t communicate while writing.

As for reels, all he’s got is a YouTube channel but it’s mostly shitposting. He also did some vids where he highlighted animation problems.

 

[Rondo Richter Belmont]

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Wow.

I always knew about this guy and what went down with him in regards to Cuck Teeth, but holy shit they're really petty little children~ IIRC, once the video of Barbara "IT'S A CARTOOOON!" started circling around on Twitter, Floof Artist came out identifying himself as the one who received that jackass answer from Barb and once he did he got blocked by the clowns at RT.

It wasn't just Gray and Arryn, but all those fools...If that Piers Morgan sissy slapfight they had didn't show how big of assholes these fags are, then this shit does.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

All I know is that he spent a good amount of time thinking about the question, and his takeaway was that Miles and Kerry don’t communicate while writing.

As for reels, all he’s got is a YouTube channel but it’s mostly shitposting. He also did some vids where he highlighted animation problems.

Wait, THAT'S FLOOF? I follow him on twitter & know his YT videos (never subbed tho). Damn, no wonder he's known as the most criticising one of the show, it all makes sense now.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

Yeah, it's just a cartoon.

I mean how dare fans get invested in the show. It's not like they have an entire series dedicated to exploring the lore called "world of Remnant" or anything.

In all seriousness, I would be perfectly fine with just going with it and say it was a cartoon if they weren't trying so hard to be deep and complex.

If you want to be a mindless action show that's fine, but if you're pretending to be all clever, then you're just giving the middle finger to fans for enjoying your work if you shrug off their questions.

 

[Cactuar King]

I wonder how Monty would have reacted to Barbara saying that?

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I wonder how Monty would have reacted to Barbara saying that?

Either sperg out or agree with her. Monty doesn't seem like he'd be the most stable being either way.

 

[Chilson]

I wonder how Monty would have reacted to Barbara saying that?

dude got triggered when people said his show wasn't an "anime" (whatever the fuck that even means anymore). I am sure he would have been respectfully quiet because he seemed to be a professional when it came to work, but told her after the fact in private how not okay that was.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

dude got triggered when people said his show wasn't an "anime" (whatever the fuck that even means anymore). I am sure he would have been respectfully quiet because he seemed to be a professional when it came to work, but told her after the fact in private how not okay that was.

The term "anime" is highly controversial. I personally don't want to debate it because it's just a headache.

But I will say that he was fighting a losing battle because in the eyes of many people, especially die-hard anime fans, RWBY is not and will never be an anime simply because it wasn't made in Japan by Japanese people. It doesn't matter how all the characters have anime eyes or how many anime tropes Monty used like catgirls and anime eyes he used.

I am not saying I agree with that opinion, in fact, I think it's silly. But I will say that both 4chan piracy sites like the infamous kisscartoon/kiss anime have RWBY on their Cartoon sections, not in the anime side.

Again, not in the mood to debate if RWBY is an "anime". I'm just pointing out that Monty had little chance of convincing anime fans that will never be convinced RWBY is an anime. Even other western shows in anime style are also considered cartoons despite the heavy Japanese influence.

Both Avatar the Last Airbender, and Teen Titans come to mind. Improving RWBY was a far better use of his time.

But in the end that label is meaningless. What truly matters is whether or not the show is good or not. Trying to convince people RWBY is an anime is just a waste of time.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

Adding to Salem being OP, another reason I'm disappointed with her is that the writers don't seem to realize how dangerous and OP character that is ONLY immortal would really be. Really all her other powers are just unnecessary if they wanted her to feel dangerous.

Immortality alone gives her an easy win. Why not just wait until team RWBY dies of old age or are too old to fight her? An immortal character should be making plans that are centuries or even millennia ahead of everyone else. With all the experience they have, even the wisest and oldest of characters should be like kids to them.

This is how an immortal character is done when made by competent writers:

Just by her age alone, Salem should have a lot of power and influence all over the world.

Instead... Salem acts like a hyperactive child with no patience. I mean yeah she is a schemer that likes to send her lackeys instead of doing anything herself. But is that actual patience? Or is it just because the writers are stalling because she would easily win otherwise?

Scheming and hiding in the shadows only makes sense if your villain is at a disadvantage from the heroes.

Everything that RWBY has ever attempted has been done better by something else. FMA, Mass Effect, Halo, fucking Naruto

On another does anyone here think there was more to Monty’s death than was let on?

 

[Chilson]

Everything that RWBY has ever attempted has been done better by something else. FMA, Mass Effect, Halo, fucking Naruto

On another does anyone here think there was more to Monty’s death than was let on?

That has kind of been mined to death. His bitch of a wife got a cat that he was allergic to or something like that (the fact that this is buried so hard really is the only "makes you think" thing about his death), said allergy led him to getting a shot that he was also allergic to, then he died due to said allergic complications.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

That has kind of been mined to death. His bitch of a wife got a cat that he was allergic to or something like that (the fact that this is buried so hard really is the only "makes you think" thing about his death), said allergy led him to getting a shot that he was also allergic to, then he died due to said allergic complications.

While it's true, a lot more detailed version of it could be found on Sheena's own thread

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/nicole-sheena-duquette-oum.20671/

 

[LordBaron]

On another does anyone here think there was more to Monty’s death than was let on?

I try not to because I doubt any of this was planned. If it was, it'd be Knives Out levels of planning.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

I try not to because I doubt any of this was planned. If it was, it'd be Knives Out levels of planning.

I won't say it's anything big than a certain woman being self-centered & a certain guy lacking the ability to say no.

 

[I Love Beef]

There’s also D. Silver Eyes knock down Salem, only for Salem to come back with a new monster form because this show is already a bootleg Final Fantasy and Monty loved his JRPGs.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind that twist considering how shitty everything has been with RWBY.

Yeah, it's just a cartoon.

I mean how dare fans get invested in the show. It's not like they have an entire series dedicated to exploring the lore called "world of Remnant" or anything.

In all seriousness, I would be perfectly fine with just going with it and say it was a cartoon if they weren't trying so hard to be deep and complex.

If you want to be a mindless action show that's fine, but if you're pretending to be all clever, then you're just giving the middle finger to fans for enjoying your work if you shrug off their questions.

Even as twisted and wringed beyond recognition to milk the fuck out of Final Fantasy and especially FFVII by corporate interests, I would rather continue to enjoy the content of the Compilation of FFVII than this shitfest, or even the lost potential of Phantasy Star Universe. Everything about RWBY pisses me off at at personal level for being an absolute slap to the face to what the whole "American Anime Experience" to me was and still is to me today.

RWBY fails to worldbuild in the longtime gaijinfuck and weaboo fuck backass belief that anime and Japanese video games are merely running on rule of cool. That's absolute horseshit. Even for some of the most bareass basic bitch vanilla shit, there is purpose to places and things, and use of symbolic and figurative allusion to provide meaning and represent something on an interconnected artistic and metaphoric level. This ties into how RWBY "tries" to pass itself off as a JRPG/Japanese Action Adventure video game inspired series because its fairy tale symbolism to its characters are poorly played off of with, the lack worldbuilding fails to garner our investment in, and draws frustration to those who see that in RWBY.

Going on tangent, I am hardcore on autistic scouring for conceptual designs and behind the scenes details, as well as thematic elements in older anime and video games. I like to study about this kind of stuff, even for OAVs and shit that's long forgotten from the 1990s. RWBY could had benefited from this because without this so called "glut of trash" that ANN labels during their orgy of self mutilating dysphoria and self loathing, you need creative drive and content which you can draw reference from. Shit like Toshinden deals with forces that have long tied itself into the fabric of the foundations of society and the mysteries and curiosities of human existence throughout its real and fantastical history in this play and battlefield we call life. Gowcaizer draws inspiration from the roots of Superman and Captain Marvel, the grandfathers of comics, being that of ancient heroes and demigods like Hercules and Samson, while drawing upon Japanese religion and inspiration to drive its world and scenario. Saber Marionette J is secretly played out akin to creation myths such as the gods coming to tame or even create the primordial world below as in Shinto, and the creation of woman by God to be Adam's wife in the Garden of Eden. And to video games. Metal Gear Solid combines secret agent spy movie elements with military expertise and anime deep levels of then next millennium anticipation and speculation in a scenario which the future of mankind rests on the shoulders of the man with the mission. Phantasy Star is about the history of the rise and fall of entire civilizations on a solar system scale, and plays on the mythology of the real life star of Algol, which is believed to be correlated with misfortune and demons, while Online deals with the power of teamwork and coming together as people, and Universe is a large social commentary. Final Fantasy VII is about facing reality, and what happens if we do and we don't. Lunar is about the fragility of everything in existence, even divinity and the power and influence of the gods themselves, and how it ultimately remains within mankind to change things for the better. Popful Mail deals with hard times and that as time goes on, being persistent and smart will lead you to where you need to and eventually to what you want. What does RWBY does with its fairy tale theme and world on an underlying level? Jack shit.

This is what happens when you use only rule of cool. You get embarrassing shit like post Monty RWBY. And you know, I don't even care at this point. Fuck the team for pissing on Monty's grave and dishonoring the spirit of his work by ruining his work. At least if he was alive, we would know he would fuck up. This is just plain unenthusiasm taking full reign on the team at this point. I guess the homoerotic mecha show did factor into RWBY being a shitshow at this point.

The term "anime" is highly controversial. I personally don't want to debate it because it's just a headache.

But I will say that he was fighting a losing battle because in the eyes of many people, especially die-hard anime fans, RWBY is not and will never be an anime simply because it wasn't made in Japan by Japanese people. It doesn't matter how all the characters have anime eyes or how many anime tropes Monty used like catgirls and anime eyes he used.

I am not saying I agree with that opinion, in fact, I think it's silly. But I will say that both 4chan piracy sites like the infamous kisscartoon/kiss anime have RWBY on their Cartoon sections, not in the anime side.

Again, not in the mood to debate if RWBY is an "anime". I'm just pointing out that Monty had little chance of convincing anime fans that will never be convinced RWBY is an anime. Even other western shows in anime style are also considered cartoons despite the heavy Japanese influence.

Both Avatar the Last Airbender, and Teen Titans come to mind. Improving RWBY was a far better use of his time.

But in the end that label is meaningless. What truly matters is whether or not the show is good or not. Trying to convince people RWBY is an anime is just a waste of time.

For a second opinion by someone way more brash and blunt, fuck no, it ain't. Teen Titans and Code Lyoko is more anime by heart, despite my indifferent loathing of the two amerime shows. RWBY is like a shitty 2000s webcomic that uses the anime style and visual cues but never studied what makes anime beyond the art, and even then, the art has been bastardized the likes of that shitty video game "humor" webcomic God Mode or Bleedman; it goes for its own style but it is ruined by its own creative failings because it tries too hard to create sensationalist stirs than anything heartfelt and invested. In my words to sum up TL;DR, EVERYTHING must come together to feel like a real anime. And if there's something I do share with the idea that anime has to have something Japanese about it, there has to be respect and a reverence for Japanese virtues and inspiration that connects on a human level, and most importantly, a respect for your predecessors and what they did to blaze the path and help guide you on it as you graduate from or succeed them. Imagine if you claimed to know karate but didn't even bother to learn its core teachings, let alone find real manuals, official books, or a dojo to properly teach you. RWBY tries to be a successor with its CGI cel shaded animation and anime visuals but has no real merit at this point to even be an "American anime successor". Like many from the late 2000s learned the hard way, if you're in only for "rool of cool" with anime, fuck off.

Thank you Pixy Misa, and sorry if it seems I am hijacking your thoughts and opinions. You make for great lead ins and have great points to share.

 

[Sayon]

Man what's the point of even paying attention to RWBY?

The show was shown in Volume 7 to not be getting any better. The showrunners are horrid. None of the notable fanworks that get serious on rebooting the show are both good and active. YouTubers like Adel Aka said all there is to say (and in Aka's case are covering more works now).

Anyway, I cam across this classic courtesy of Adel Aka:

Funny how the whole RWBY turning against Ozpin depended on Ozzy being a giant bitch who runs away from children.