KR South Korea reports recovered coronavirus patients testing positive again - Wu flu boogaloo



South Korean officials on Friday reported 91 patients thought cleared of the new coronavirus had tested positive again.

Jeong Eun-kyeong, director of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC), told a briefing that the virus may have been “reactivated” rather than the patients being re-infected.


South Korean health officials said it remains unclear what is behind the trend, with epidemiological investigations still under way.

The prospect of people being re-infected with the virus is of international concern, as many countries are hoping that infected populations will develop sufficient immunity to prevent a resurgence of the pandemic.


The South Korean figure had risen from 51 such cases on Monday.

Nearly 7,000 South Koreans have been reported as recovered from COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus.

“The number will only increase, 91 is just the beginning now,” said Kim Woo-joo, professor of infectious diseases at Korea University Guro Hospital.


The KCDC’s Jeong raised the possibility that rather than patients being re-infected, the virus may have been “reactivated”.

Kim also said patients had likely “relapsed” rather than been re-infected.

False test results could also be at fault, other experts said, or remnants of the virus could still be in patients’ systems but not be infectious or of danger to the host or others.


“There are different interpretations and many variables,” said Jung Ki-suck, professor of pulmonary medicine at Hallym University Sacred Heart Hospital.

“The government needs to come up with responses for each of these variables”.

South Korea on Friday reported 27 new cases, its lowest after daily cases peaked at more than 900 in late February, according to KCDC, adding the total stood at 10,450 cases.

The death toll rose by seven to 211, it said.
The city of Daegu, which endured the first large coronavirus outbreak outside of China, reported zero new cases for the first time since late February.
With at least 6,807 confirmed cases, Daegu accounts for more than half of all South Korea’s total infections.
The spread of infections at a church in Daegu drove a spike in cases in South Korea beginning in late February.
The outbreak initially pushed the tally of confirmed cases much higher than anywhere else outside of China, before the country used widespread testing and social distancing measures to bring the numbers down.
 
The possibility of SARS-Cov-2 lying "dormant" in patients before being reactivated (or causing longer term problems and additional complications) is something I have been very intrigued by over the past month.
Given that the virus can spread into the brain and central nervous system via the olfactory nerve (and remain in nerve cells), my big concern has always been whether or not people who survive COVID-19 could potentially get hit with a new condition years down the line due to reactivation of dormant SARS-Cov-2 in their nerve cells. This is what happens with varicella zoster virus (VZV, i.e. the virus responsible for chickenpox), which can remain dormant in nerve cells for years before re-emerging as Shingles. Notably, patients with reactivated VZV are able to spread VZV to non-immune individuals, causing chickenpox. If reactivated COVID-19 behaves in a similar fashion, it could be a potential cause of a second wave of outbreaks at some point in the future. Whether or not this will occur before or after the development of a COVID-19 vaccine (assuming we get one, which we probably will eventually) is uncertain, but such a scenario would require individuals who survived COVID and developed immunity before the vaccine is developed to get a slightly different vaccination (similar to how larger doses of the chickenpox vaccine are often used as a Shingles vaccine) to prevent reactivation of the underlying SARS-Cov-2 virus.
The other question would be how a virus caused by reactivated SARS-Cov-2 would affect the body and nervous system, and how deadly it could potentially be.

Please correct me if I am misunderstanding something, but this is just what I am speculating about based on what I know about viruses and what I am observing about the new coronavirus
 
Oh fuggg you know shit has hit the fan when @CatParty is posting actual news

@CatParty is late which is a change for him.

As has been talked about a lot in various media in SK, there are two reasons why they may have tested positive again:
There is question as to what medication the patients are on (not likely a reason but still)
or secondly and the most likely
The tests gave false readings.

Or thirdly, they weren't clear in the first place.

Since South Korea's whole schtick atm relies on complete faith in the SK CDC, there's little to no chance of them actually saying that.
Considering their 24/7 messages they're sending out about what cluster is where and who's gone where (everyone who gets it is tracked, has to upload symptoms every day etc via an app) and the growing pressure from people over the over reach of government re: data security and privacy, the CDC isn't going to come out and say "And maybe those tests were faulty".

Gooks don't admit shit like that. But westerners sure do love doom, so they endless report stuff like this without a second thought.
 
Yeah, this is bullshit. The test used to diagnose the disease, qRT-PCR based on a nasopharyngeal swab, is very oversensitive and fiddly. I've done it myself, and even in the best of conditions it's easy to get a false negative or a false positive.

I have yet to see any evidence that you can catch it a second time, or any evidence that it lies dormant and comes back like singles. There has been a test done in monkeys that says you have protection after you get it.

The article only says they had tested positive. It doesn't say anything about symptoms coming back. Maybe relapse after a few days is a thing, but reinfection is unlikely. Unless I see some clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, I'm going to apply Occam's Razor and say the tests fucked up.
 
@Otterly how is this possible. Aren't you supposed to be immune to a virus after you beat it
It’s possible because:
1 the tests are shit. Even s Korea says they’re throwing 20% false results.
2. Like @Wallace says they are hard to swab properly (you’ve gotta jam the swab a loooong way in)
3. the test kits are shit - there might be a problem with the rna stabiliser or the primers or the cycling, or the polymerase or the methodology, but they are shit.
4. It also seems to take some people a long time to clear the virus. During that time nose swabs can be negative and deep lung samples positive.
Add it all up and the most likely explanation is that the tests aren’t accurate enough, and that among the hundreds of thousands they did, some people got two false positives - I’m sure someone can work out what the odds are (odds of two sequential tests coming back false positive if tests have a say 20% false negative rate.) multiply that by half a million or whatever they’ve done and a few hundred sounds about right.

Survivors have antibodies. The mild Coronaviruses don’t give most people lifelong immunity but they do give months to a year or two. People who were sick with SARS got proper antibody responses. The sicker you were, The more antibodies you had. Animal modelling suggests reinfection doesn’t happen.
I mean never say never but al the evidence so far points to shit tests.
 
Gooks don't admit shit like that. But westerners sure do love doom, so they endless report stuff like this without a second thought.
Doomday cults like pseudo-Christian religious movements practiced in Korea with significant control of politics sure do, however.

South Korea? North Korea? You mean the Manchurian Peninsula?
You mean that part of the Great East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere? Heard of it, yeah.
It tells you a lot when Korea was more "unified" under Japanese rule, with borders closer to when it was at height.
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