The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

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Related topic, how the fuck does Enter think that any of this is even remotely okay for kids?


Source: https://www.deviantart.com/mrenter/journal/Growing-Around-Common-Criticisms-Answered-829538494

If you don't know, Growing Around is aimed at the 7-11 age, and the show is supposed to "grow" with them in a sense. It gets darker as time goes on. But this isn't really about... me. It's about the environment of children's entertainment.

Children's entertainment is really fucked up. There's a word for it, Dahlian. Named for Roald Dahl. Remember Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? How sweet and funny it was, exploring a chocolate factory. Where kids dropped like flies. Charlie nearly gets his head ripped off by a ceiling fan. Verruca falls into a goddamn incinerator. Mike Teevee has been permanently altered. He's either small as a doll or stretched out like candy for the rest of his life, and Violet... well, she's become a Purple People Eater.

Jumanji - getting sucked in board games, spiders the size of dogs, a goddamn plant that eats you. Giant mosquito who break glass. In the first Harry Potter movie, a guy gets his faced burned off. Matilda and Harry Potter both exist in worlds where they're just casually abused by their parents. Do I need to say anything about Coraline and all of its imagery? Sharp claws, Coraline asked to get buttons sewn over her eyes.

Adventure Time had basically a metaphor for alzheimers. Watership Down, a movie where rabbits tear each other apart in a bloody mess is rated PG. Avatar: The Last Airbender... it's in the title. Aang is the last airbender because the Fire Nation committed a genocide against his people. Invader Zim has all kinds of grotesque and violent imagery, same with Courage the Cowardly Dog.

Do you want me to keep going on? I have examples for days. Children's media is fucked up. Or rather... Grimm. Even our fairytales are messed up. Hansel and Gretel, parents abandoning their kids in the middle of the woods and them almost getting baked in an oven and being cooked alive. Red Riding Hood, the woodsman cuts open the wolf's stomach. Nursery rhymes are even morbid. "It's raining, it's pouring The old man is snoring He bumped his head when he went to bed And he couldn't wake up in the morning." You know, cuz he's dead.

I'm sorry, I grew up with Majora's Mask, a video game about people contemplating their own inevitable death as they stood days away from Armageddon, where Cremia is implied to give her little kid sister Romania an alcoholic beverage to numb the pain as the moon falls to earth and sets the world in a fiery blaze.

I think that kids... could handle a little darkness here and there.

tl;dr "Gee, people complain so much about MY cartoon being dark, yet they conveniently ignore so many other examples of popular children's media that go even darker."

Yes, but when most other children's media goes into nightmarish territory, the protagonist is a victim of that cruelty; not the instigator. In a situation like "Growing Around," where adults are thoroughly abused and neglected by their child overlords, Mr. E is expecting his audience to always root for the overlords and laugh when the adults suffer, when any sane writer would take things in the exact opposite direction. Yes, the world can be terrible. Yes, some children should understand the world can be terrible. No, they should never be led by media to make the world even more terrible. This is what makes the premise of "Growing Around" so horrific.
 
Source: https://www.deviantart.com/mrenter/journal/Growing-Around-Common-Criticisms-Answered-829538494

If you don't know, Growing Around is aimed at the 7-11 age, and the show is supposed to "grow" with them in a sense. It gets darker as time goes on. But this isn't really about... me. It's about the environment of children's entertainment.

Children's entertainment is really fucked up. There's a word for it, Dahlian. Named for Roald Dahl. Remember Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? How sweet and funny it was, exploring a chocolate factory. Where kids dropped like flies. Charlie nearly gets his head ripped off by a ceiling fan. Verruca falls into a goddamn incinerator. Mike Teevee has been permanently altered. He's either small as a doll or stretched out like candy for the rest of his life, and Violet... well, she's become a Purple People Eater.

Jumanji - getting sucked in board games, spiders the size of dogs, a goddamn plant that eats you. Giant mosquito who break glass. In the first Harry Potter movie, a guy gets his faced burned off. Matilda and Harry Potter both exist in worlds where they're just casually abused by their parents. Do I need to say anything about Coraline and all of its imagery? Sharp claws, Coraline asked to get buttons sewn over her eyes.

Adventure Time had basically a metaphor for alzheimers. Watership Down, a movie where rabbits tear each other apart in a bloody mess is rated PG. Avatar: The Last Airbender... it's in the title. Aang is the last airbender because the Fire Nation committed a genocide against his people. Invader Zim has all kinds of grotesque and violent imagery, same with Courage the Cowardly Dog.

Do you want me to keep going on? I have examples for days. Children's media is fucked up. Or rather... Grimm. Even our fairytales are messed up. Hansel and Gretel, parents abandoning their kids in the middle of the woods and them almost getting baked in an oven and being cooked alive. Red Riding Hood, the woodsman cuts open the wolf's stomach. Nursery rhymes are even morbid. "It's raining, it's pouring The old man is snoring He bumped his head when he went to bed And he couldn't wake up in the morning." You know, cuz he's dead.

I'm sorry, I grew up with Majora's Mask, a video game about people contemplating their own inevitable death as they stood days away from Armageddon, where Cremia is implied to give her little kid sister Romania an alcoholic beverage to numb the pain as the moon falls to earth and sets the world in a fiery blaze.

I think that kids... could handle a little darkness here and there.

tl;dr "Gee, people complain so much about MY cartoon being dark, yet they conveniently ignore so many other examples of popular children's media that go even darker."

Yes, but when most other children's media goes into nightmarish territory, the protagonist is a victim of that cruelty; not the instigator. In a situation like "Growing Around," where adults are thoroughly abused and neglected by their child overlords, Mr. E is expecting his audience to root for the overlords and laugh when the adults suffer, when any sane writer would take things in the exact opposite direction. Yes, the world can be terrible. Yes, some children should understand the world can be terrible. No, they should never be led by media to make the world even more terrible. This is what makes the premise of "Growing Around" so horrific.
And Enter’s autism makes it impossible for him to tell the difference between those classics with a bit of darkness, and his hellish Orwellian nightmare.
 
Source: https://www.deviantart.com/mrenter/journal/Growing-Around-Common-Criticisms-Answered-829538494

If you don't know, Growing Around is aimed at the 7-11 age, and the show is supposed to "grow" with them in a sense. It gets darker as time goes on. But this isn't really about... me. It's about the environment of children's entertainment.

Children's entertainment is really fucked up. There's a word for it, Dahlian. Named for Roald Dahl. Remember Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? How sweet and funny it was, exploring a chocolate factory. Where kids dropped like flies. Charlie nearly gets his head ripped off by a ceiling fan. Verruca falls into a goddamn incinerator. Mike Teevee has been permanently altered. He's either small as a doll or stretched out like candy for the rest of his life, and Violet... well, she's become a Purple People Eater.

Jumanji - getting sucked in board games, spiders the size of dogs, a goddamn plant that eats you. Giant mosquito who break glass. In the first Harry Potter movie, a guy gets his faced burned off. Matilda and Harry Potter both exist in worlds where they're just casually abused by their parents. Do I need to say anything about Coraline and all of its imagery? Sharp claws, Coraline asked to get buttons sewn over her eyes.

Adventure Time had basically a metaphor for alzheimers. Watership Down, a movie where rabbits tear each other apart in a bloody mess is rated PG. Avatar: The Last Airbender... it's in the title. Aang is the last airbender because the Fire Nation committed a genocide against his people. Invader Zim has all kinds of grotesque and violent imagery, same with Courage the Cowardly Dog.

Do you want me to keep going on? I have examples for days. Children's media is fucked up. Or rather... Grimm. Even our fairytales are messed up. Hansel and Gretel, parents abandoning their kids in the middle of the woods and them almost getting baked in an oven and being cooked alive. Red Riding Hood, the woodsman cuts open the wolf's stomach. Nursery rhymes are even morbid. "It's raining, it's pouring The old man is snoring He bumped his head when he went to bed And he couldn't wake up in the morning." You know, cuz he's dead.

I'm sorry, I grew up with Majora's Mask, a video game about people contemplating their own inevitable death as they stood days away from Armageddon, where Cremia is implied to give her little kid sister Romania an alcoholic beverage to numb the pain as the moon falls to earth and sets the world in a fiery blaze.

I think that kids... could handle a little darkness here and there.

tl;dr "Gee, people complain so much about MY cartoon being dark, yet they conveniently ignore so many other examples of popular children's media that go even darker."

Yes, but when most other children's media goes into nightmarish territory, the protagonist is a victim of that cruelty; not the instigator. In a situation like "Growing Around," where adults are thoroughly abused and neglected by their child overlords, Mr. E is expecting his audience to always root for the overlords and laugh when the adults suffer, when any sane writer would take things in the exact opposite direction. Yes, the world can be terrible. Yes, some children should understand the world can be terrible. No, they should never be led by media to make the world even more terrible. This is what makes the premise of "Growing Around" so horrific.

Loathesome, absolute trash - blacklisting him quietly so this never gets made proper was the right move. And he can take his comparisons of far superior Western works of his that we all mostly know and love/tolerate and shove it up his pedo faget ass, honestly!

He'll never compete and must be forced to fail; the true horror to me, however, is how Entard still can't see the truth and face facts: He cannot compete and must fail.
 
Source: https://www.deviantart.com/mrenter/journal/Growing-Around-Common-Criticisms-Answered-829538494

If you don't know, Growing Around is aimed at the 7-11 age, and the show is supposed to "grow" with them in a sense. It gets darker as time goes on. But this isn't really about... me. It's about the environment of children's entertainment.

Children's entertainment is really fucked up. There's a word for it, Dahlian. Named for Roald Dahl. Remember Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? How sweet and funny it was, exploring a chocolate factory. Where kids dropped like flies. Charlie nearly gets his head ripped off by a ceiling fan. Verruca falls into a goddamn incinerator. Mike Teevee has been permanently altered. He's either small as a doll or stretched out like candy for the rest of his life, and Violet... well, she's become a Purple People Eater.

Jumanji - getting sucked in board games, spiders the size of dogs, a goddamn plant that eats you. Giant mosquito who break glass. In the first Harry Potter movie, a guy gets his faced burned off. Matilda and Harry Potter both exist in worlds where they're just casually abused by their parents. Do I need to say anything about Coraline and all of its imagery? Sharp claws, Coraline asked to get buttons sewn over her eyes.

Adventure Time had basically a metaphor for alzheimers. Watership Down, a movie where rabbits tear each other apart in a bloody mess is rated PG. Avatar: The Last Airbender... it's in the title. Aang is the last airbender because the Fire Nation committed a genocide against his people. Invader Zim has all kinds of grotesque and violent imagery, same with Courage the Cowardly Dog.

Do you want me to keep going on? I have examples for days. Children's media is fucked up. Or rather... Grimm. Even our fairytales are messed up. Hansel and Gretel, parents abandoning their kids in the middle of the woods and them almost getting baked in an oven and being cooked alive. Red Riding Hood, the woodsman cuts open the wolf's stomach. Nursery rhymes are even morbid. "It's raining, it's pouring The old man is snoring He bumped his head when he went to bed And he couldn't wake up in the morning." You know, cuz he's dead.

I'm sorry, I grew up with Majora's Mask, a video game about people contemplating their own inevitable death as they stood days away from Armageddon, where Cremia is implied to give her little kid sister Romania an alcoholic beverage to numb the pain as the moon falls to earth and sets the world in a fiery blaze.

I think that kids... could handle a little darkness here and there.

tl;dr "Gee, people complain so much about MY cartoon being dark, yet they conveniently ignore so many other examples of popular children's media that go even darker."

Yes, but when most other children's media goes into nightmarish territory, the protagonist is a victim of that cruelty; not the instigator. In a situation like "Growing Around," where adults are thoroughly abused and neglected by their child overlords, Mr. E is expecting his audience to always root for the overlords and laugh when the adults suffer, when any sane writer would take things in the exact opposite direction. Yes, the world can be terrible. Yes, some children should understand the world can be terrible. No, they should never be led by media to make the world even more terrible. This is what makes the premise of "Growing Around" so horrific.
Honestly at this point, Enter has no right to complain if a show is mean-spirited given he created a literal dystopia which is one of the worst in fiction and has no self-awareness behind it. It's one thing to make a dystopia but it's another to act like this is some utopia.

Growing Around shows Enter's lack of self awareness with literally everyone given that kids would not care for it or not even relate to the kids, while people older than children will look at flaws in the world building and be disgusted by it. Growing Around's only fans is just Entard's fanbase with no one else.
 
Damn, Mr. Enter and CWC have a lot in common. Both have a main character they self-insert into, both of their creative projects are basically escapist fantasies that are totally inappropriate for their intended audience (children), and both write horrific dystopic nightmares without realizing it.
Honestly if I had to choose between the Growing Around Universe and fucking CWCVille, I'd take CWCVille because at least there won't be firing squads just for aging and government sanctioned facilities that make me into a tard.
 
Damn, Mr. Enter and CWC have a lot in common. Both have a main character they self-insert into, both of their creative projects are basically escapist fantasies that are totally inappropriate for their intended audience (children), and both write horrific dystopic nightmares without realizing it.

At least I could aim to make it as a supervillain in CWCVille. I wouldn't win, knowing how bad the writing is, but Entard's world? You're practically in Hell itself already, in that case...
 
Growing Around's only fans is just Entard's fanbase with no one else.
Not really them, either. GA scripts and art barely get any comments when compared to his journals that link his reviews. When he makes a YouTube video on GA, even his fans point out flaws within it. Growing Around's only fans are Enter and Ava.
 
Not really them, either. GA scripts and art barely get any comments when compared to his journals that link his reviews. When he makes a YouTube video on GA, even his fans point out flaws within it. Growing Around's only fans are Enter and Ava.
I actually went on Mr. Enter's Growing Around Discord once (before getting banned through arguing with a mod, one who actually cosplays as Enter's characters) and most of the people on that server were only on there because they wanted to see what the next thing to make fun of Enter would be.
 
Not really them, either. GA scripts and art barely get any comments when compared to his journals that link his reviews. When he makes a YouTube video on GA, even his fans point out flaws within it. Growing Around's only fans are Enter and Ava.

I actually went on Mr. Enter's Growing Around Discord once (before getting banned through arguing with a mod, one who actually cosplays as Enter's characters) and most of the people on that server were only on there because they wanted to see what the next thing to make fun of Enter would be.

GOOD. The more people making fun of him behind his back, the better.
And the BEST part is he's too dumb to ever find out the truth, either.
This gift only keeps on giving. The feeling that we're not alone in this for once.
This revelation... It's all too wonderful.
 
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“Sobers up” from what? What’s the equivalent of alcohol in this fucked up world?

I'm thinking solidly along the lines of junk food. Specifically:

Candy.

Ice Cream.

Pastries.

Just about any junk food are the only drugs I can think of in this exact case.
In a better thing, this would make sense, given the mindset we're dealing with here.
 
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What the fuck now I have so many more questions. Is this one of those weird spin-off episodes?

At some point, Enter decided to collab with Ava and write a crossover episode between Growing Around and Hammerspace (Ava's project). Yes, he decided to make a crossover for two shows that don't even exist. Interestingly, unlike every other script for Growing Around, Enter didn't write this fully by himself. According to him, Ava did actually help.
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Although you wouldn't be able to tell since the writing feels 100% like Enter.
 
“Sobers up” from what? What’s the equivalent of alcohol in this fucked up world?
This scene in particular is from the crossover with Hammerspace (Ava's webcomic) and what she's sobering up from is something that exists in that.

However, since Enter is an uncreative twit, he has ripped off the Goofy Goober scene from Spongebob and had kids in the GA universe get drunk off of ice cream in the past. (In an early draft, he even plagiarized the scene word for word save for some name changes.) I'd have to go digging through the old subforum again to find out if that was archived, though.
 
Not really them, either. GA scripts and art barely get any comments when compared to his journals that link his reviews. When he makes a YouTube video on GA, even his fans point out flaws within it. Growing Around's only fans are Enter and Ava.
I feel like the Kickstarter alone should’ve been enough proof that no one likes Growing Around, If people actually cared about the show, he would’ve raised a bit more money (but still not met the goal).
 
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>Where they're "broken down and built from the ground up" to have a child's mind.
>Art involves the adults being put in diapers and baby gear.

Nope. Nothing weird, fucked up and fetishy here! No siree!
You know, I’ve made jokes about Growing Around taking place in a alternate universe North Korea, but I didn’t expect him to actually make a DPRK style reducation camp. And the way the kids are smiling while the adults are crying is just disturbing

Last time I checked, in just about every dystopia setting, the main goal is to want to see the protagonist(s) survive and make things better, or at the very least, much less shitty for them + everyone else under the antagonist's loaded gun, honestly.

Entard has only succeeded in showing me a world in need of resetting through any means necessary, since the protagonists are the absolute opposite with no hope of seeing otherwise.

Example(s) include: an apocalyptic event (weather and/or disease) that spares enough people to rebuild the world into something less shitty, or how about a somewhat benevolent alien force wipes out the antagonists, but also most of the population - survivors aim is to rebuild regardless.

As it is, there is no hope for anyone actually here. Especially since who we're rooting for are the ones making the dystopia's inhabitants beg for one of these two scenarios, since they can't fight back, as much as that's what should be happening. And would be in a much better thought out thing, too.

Oh wait, I keep forgetting a silly, but brilliant little cartoon called KND already did this and did it far better, as well. Excuse my forgetfulness... Because I KNOW for a FACT this was mentioned a hundred or so thread pages ago.
You know what would be a fascinating mental experiment? Explaining the entire premise and reality of growing around, but replace the terms “kids” and “adults” with “whites” and “blacks” and then see just how horrified someone gets. That’s basically what this is, an extreme alternate version of what would happen if the south won the war. Even more dystopic than Colombia in Bioshock(and coincidently, both are presented as a paradise by the creator)
 
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