[16-Jan-2020] DarksydePhil is filing for bankruptcy (general thread) - and has officially done so on January 31 2020, meaning a lot of his finances have become public

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What will happen with his case following the 341 meeting?

  • Still gets Chapter 7

    Votes: 126 18.1%
  • Changed to Chapter 13 and ultimately fails to make his required payments

    Votes: 218 31.3%
  • Chapter 13 and successfully completed all payments

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Complete dismissal of the bankruptcy

    Votes: 334 47.9%

  • Total voters
    697
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Nancy already knows Phil is a scamming piece of shit. She knew that before the 341 meeting. She would have not have spent 33 minutes on Phil and gone over his entire filing otherwise. She's not going to go easy on Phil in any way.

What it comes down to now is what Phil's actual assets/expenses are, which we have no way of truly knowing, and Washington state laws that I'm not going to bother learning, but some of you kind gentlemen will tell us over time.
All I can say is Tuesday is gonna be good

All I can say is Tuesday is gonna be good
On a slightly unrelated note I know Phil always bitches about detractors illegally resteaming him is what people like LSB Tevin ect do actually illegal in any fashion or is he just whining because muh views?
 
All I can say is Tuesday is gonna be good


On a slightly unrelated note I know Phil always bitches about detractors illegally resteaming him is what people like LSB Tevin ect do actually illegal in any fashion or is he just whining because muh views?
Gray area. Good luck getting a lawyer to actually press charges over it though.
 
All I can say is Tuesday is gonna be good


On a slightly unrelated note I know Phil always bitches about detractors illegally resteaming him is what people like LSB Tevin ect do actually illegal in any fashion or is he just whining because muh views?
Not definitely illegal. At most possibly against YouTube's terms of service, and I even doubt that. Nobody gives a shit regardless though.
 
If Tevin tried to do the same thing with an NBA or NFL game his channel would be vaporized. I'm not sure how he gets away with restreaming DSP.
Because YouTube themselves don't give a shit, the big broadcasters have companies policing the net and taking down all restreams. They only take action if someone reports or legal claims are made.
 
If Tevin tried to do the same thing with an NBA or NFL game his channel would be vaporized. I'm not sure how he gets away with restreaming DSP.
This mostly comes down to streaming rights in general. Sports livestreams are almost always held exclusively by one network for that team/game/series. Streaming commentary over some faggot streaming commentary over content that he doesn't legally own the rights to in the first place is a lot different than trying to stream the Bronchos playing while it's live on Fox. Of course when you're dealing with a million dollar corporation trying to protect their bottom line, you're going to get fucking nuked.
 
If Tevin tried to do the same thing with an NBA or NFL game his channel would be vaporized. I'm not sure how he gets away with restreaming DSP.
Phil has to make a complaint himself to Youtube and prove its him. His underlings can't. If Phil did, Tevin would be shut down immediately.
 
If Tevin tried to do the same thing with an NBA or NFL game his channel would be vaporized. I'm not sure how he gets away with restreaming DSP.
Because you have to have a license to broadcast those events, OR have the cable subscription to view them. Watching a twitch stream is completely free, the only people actually getting "robbed" during restreams is twitch themselves because people aren't subjected to ads. I suppose it is hurting Phil to an extent, because that ad revenue is shared, but were talking less than $10 probably per restream.

Another note. A good majority of people that watch the restreams, won't watch Phil on twitch, as indicated by the number of viewers he has when the big restreamers aren't simulcasting Phil.
 
Open Dates and Credit Cards closing balance.

04/16/2014 - $13,885.35
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08/22/2012 - $15,601.74
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05/11/2015 - $8,508.45
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On a slightly unrelated note I know Phil always bitches about detractors illegally resteaming him is what people like LSB Tevin ect do actually illegal in any fashion or is he just whining because muh views?

Fair use is quite subjective, but what they're doing certainly falls into the area between "Obviously fair use" and "Obviously not". You could absolutely get a lawyer to make cogent arguments for either point of view without resorting to bullshit. Phil saying it's absolutely illegal is an exaggeration, but if he got a good lawyer and a judge with a favorable disposition he would have a legitimate chance of winning a civil case.
 
  1. Nancy orders an appraisal of the wakando, finds it's assessed value puts Phil over the 125k exemption. Based on Phil being a sack of shit, she doesn't hesitate to sell the wakando
This isn't a maybe, it's basically mandatory. You really think there is any scenario where Nancy just trusts a debtors appraisal of their house in an asset case?

I suppose it is hurting Phil to an extent, because that ad revenue is shared, but were talking less than $10 probably per restream.

If it was't for the restreamers and the TIHYDP-ers I think dave would've been homeless years ago. They are the only people generating interest in what he's doing. I think the whales throw money at him just to thumb their noses at the detractors, and then you have the idiots who troll him with money hoping to make a restreamer laugh or bait a rant for a yt video. The fact is we keep dave in business.
 
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For as much as he seems to complain about it his reluctance to do something about it is surprising
It isn't surprising to me at all. PP has crafted an entire sad sack identity for himself centered around the idea that trolls ruined his career and continue to harass him while he's just a genuinely good guy trying to play games and have fun. It's an easy way to get wheelchair symbols to pity him and Tevin is an easy boogeyman to point to and blame things on. Paul is not a video game streamer. At this point he's basically a drama streamer who plays video games in the meantime. It's why he never misses an opportunity to bring it up and talk about it or talk about how he's not going to talk about it. Actively working to rid himself of detractors, restreamers, etc. is directly against his financial interests at this point. His paypiggies are now routinely giving him $100+ per stream for him to wear a fucking vest just to own the detractors. Hell people pay him just to try and fuck with him or bait him into some stupid response. What I'm saying is that DSP's relationship with his haters is highly symbiotic at this point and making genuine efforts to hurt them only stands to hurt him as well.

On the topic of the legality of Tevin's streams though I've long felt that the argument could be made that Tevin reacting to and criticizing Pigroach's stream is, in some cases, much more transformative than the stream itself. Tevin is generally not reacting or critiquing the game itself as much as the stream and the guy putting it on. The streams are not something that you need to pay to have the license to watch. Anyone can watch them for free. And much like React channels on YouTube (which I don't care for, but YouTube is generally okay with) the argument could be made that the viewer wouldn't otherwise watch the original content if not for the additions made by the person reacting to it. Now ToS may make a distinction between on demand video and streams, but frankly with respect to the spirit of Fair Use I don't see how what Tevin is doing to DSP's streams is substantially different to what DSP's streams are doing to the games themselves.
 
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Fair use is quite subjective, but what they're doing certainly falls into the area between "Obviously fair use" and "Obviously not". You could absolutely get a lawyer to make cogent arguments for either point of view without resorting to bullshit. Phil saying it's absolutely illegal is an exaggeration, but if he got a good lawyer and a judge with a favorable disposition he would have a legitimate chance of winning a civil case.
The stuff that people hate about Tevin/LSB (commentary, soundclips, text to speech, gifs and elaborate layouts...) would go far in protecting them as a 'transformative' work that serves as criticism or mockery. DarkDave would be the far easier legal target, but Phil wouldn't be interested because there is no defined popular personality ribbing him and calling him out. Phil doesn't actually care about protecting his content - he cares about being able to get a win over these people that dare to challenge the pignosis. Copyright is just the bludgeon he fantasizes about being able to use.

Can't wait till they go over the statements to see what he spent that money on. I think I speak for most when I say that it's hard to see him spending this absurd amount on groceries and fast food as he claimed in the meeting.
The part that got me about this wasn't even just that it's incredibly stupid that he was capping off his maxed out credit cards with groceries after he realized he was insolvent.

It's the fact that, as he was supposedly buying groceries with his credit cards, he was specifically begging for tips to afford 'groceries'. So if he said the tips went to groceries, and then used a credit card to buy the groceries... we again come back to that age old question... where were the tips going?

I'm down for whatever Nancy Fuchs decides to pursue for this bankruptcy, but I'll set my expectations as low as possible. I just want one public document, one undeniable record, that exposes where this money went. It could be to WWE, it could be to Kat for services rendered, it could be stuffed under Phil's mattress... I just want the black hole explained on paper somewhere.
 
Open Dates and Credit Cards closing balance.

04/16/2014 - $13,885.35View attachment 1227232
08/22/2012 - $15,601.74
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05/11/2015 - $8,508.45
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Why did Phil stop paying on all his CitiBank cards in October? I thought you were supposed to keep paying at least minimum payments until you actually file your bankruptcy claim? Did Phil stop payment on all his cards in October?

This would mean he's going on like 6+ months of paying nothing to his unsecured creditors and he is still begging for money with the narrative that he can't pay his basic bills. I'll reiterate, he hasn't been paying his unsecured creditors and still can't afford his routine bills somehow! He should have like $12+K extra accrued by now just from not paying his unsecured creditors. It's at least a fact that since October Phil hasn't payed a dime towards like 30% of his unsecured debt.

Also, fucking lmao @ Phil saying this a month after opening a new CitiBank card
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