Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

D-Did we get a freak cancelled just by making their shit public knowledge? Huh.
I'm not surprised, anything relating to CP is a cardinal sin on the internet. Just look at the Onision situation. That guy hasn't been relevant in a decade but ever since Chris Hansen started investigating him, everyone and their dog jumped on the bandwagon of shunning him for being a dirty pedo groomer. They're not wrong, drawing CP is disgusting. Casual racism can be forgiven if you play dumb and say you didn't know any better, but once you're a pedo you're a pedo.

Also, it never fails to amuse me how many people come here just to say that they have DID too but that they do it correctly unlike Chloe and Nan. Being sick is not a competition. If someone out there claims to have the same thing you're having but their experience is different from yours (whether it's because they're faking or because not everybody experiences things in the same way), it doesn't invalidate your own issues.
 
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I dreamt last night that Chloe uploaded a video of her throwing a tantrum about "the haters" and self-harming. Guess I've been spending too much time on this thread...

Anyway, had to check YouTube when I woke up cause I wouldn't put that past her attention-seeking ass.
A dream that I'd wager on. The manipulate "I wouldn't be {insert self-harm method of choice or waiting for the suey-side bus} if the haters weren't hating.

It's a way to avoid all accountability, make your fans your personal army, white knight, donate to a go fund me for (retail) therapy and be a manipulative shit all while adopting a fragile facial expression.
 
Not sure if this will be formatted right but here's some more stuff I don't think I have seen here yet.


If you scroll down to Spike you will ggoolddduck / Nan

This is the post about Spike identifying him as a baby


This is what Nan drew of spike.


This is another one of Nan's blogs about the fetish

 
They are too chicken shit to rip a fucking nerve out of their leg or put shit in their IV.

Why did you have to remind me of Kelly? (:_( My stomach just rolled.

D-Did we get a freak cancelled just by making their shit public knowledge? Huh.

Eh, I doubt it. Chloe’s actions throughout all of this have shown that she’s committed to Nan, so she is probably working on something to help clear her pedophile fiance. Some of her fans will buy into it, others won’t. There will probably be a lot of, “the situation was misconstrued” and “but Nan didn’t mean to hurt anyone” and finally, “we’ve talked about it and Nan decided to seek out therapy for all of this.” and then in a few weeks, it’ll be brushed under the rug with, “the therapist said nothing is wrong with it since I had no intentions on acting out on it and that I clearly do not find minors attractive” or something like that. Except we all know they won’t be going to a therapist.

Or, she could break up with Nan and claim she was being manipulated, lied to, abused, whatever scores her the most pity points. It will be added to her long list of traumas and just be another thing that she will look back on and say she was the victim. She might even create a new alter because of it. Her fans will buy it. But, I think she likes having Nan around to control and LARP with. Nan clearly worships Chloe and really feeds into her ego and is willing to do anything for her (as evidenced by how Chloe was carefully controlling Nan’s “apology” livestream by playing the caring girlfriend and telling them to stop and to not get into it) and she’d be hard pressed to give that up. Plus, if they break up, there’s always the chance Nan spills everything.
 
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It's pretty blatantly clear that Nan is abusing the tumblr-oppressed terms "asexual" and "non-binary" to rack up those oppression points.

I still believe Nan is genuinely mentally ill but she OOZES borderline personality disorder, not DID. Chloe on the other hand is 100% a mental illness munchie.

Mental illness munchies are the worst. They are too chicken shit to rip a fucking nerve out of their leg or put shit in their IV. Get some fucking balls and give yourself MRSA, Jesus.

Chloe often tries to draw attention to the fact that she self-harms and has visible scars, but it's not convincing at all, especially compared to Nan. In this video, for example, she's put this in the description:
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'I have [scars] too but they are less visible.' I honestly can't see a single scar, but in the comments, she gets a lot of sympathy for it. It's another example of her hiding behind mental illness to avoid being questioned; I remember seeing a few skeptical comments around the time it was uploaded, but they were all deleted.
 
Not sure if this will be formatted right but here's some more stuff I don't think I have seen here yet.


If you scroll down to Spike you will ggoolddduck / Nan

This is the post about Spike identifying him as a baby


This is what Nan drew of spike.


This is another one of Nan's blogs about the fetish

All of that is incredibly disturbing. Especially, scrolling through the last one.

Spike is undeniably a baby dragon. They say it over and over in the show. In fact, most of the ponies in that version of the show are in fact teenagers. They even made a human version of it where they go to highschool.

'I have [scars] too but they are less visible.'

Geez. This makes me cringe. Also, I have never noticed a single scar on her body and she has pictures that show a lot of skin.

I'm sure she will scroll through here and make one happen for her next post somehow. 🙄
 
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I need to up my sleuthing skills. For me Nan is the bigger lolcow. I knew about her channel for a year or two and when I started hearing herself referring herself as asexual, they/them, and triggering I knew she would be part of the tumblr crowd and knew she had this kind of lolcow worthy material somewhere. Unfortunately I didn't find much beyond what her ex said on reddit.
 
I actually saw the video in question and its true, if I remember correctly its Nan as Evan/Riven and toward the end of the video you see them growling at the dog off screen and screeching "MY PANCAKE" or something like that. Knowing the context it was disturbing to me, but fans in the comments kept LOLing and XD thinking the growl was cute, but they don't know there was a dog off screen. I wish I remembered this sooner so grandad could have mentioned it in his videos before he DFE. I wanted to link the video here but it looks like she removed the video and any videos referencing staying in Missouri. If I see the archived videos I will bring it up here.

In one of the livestreams with Nan and Chloe, Chloe said if they lived together they would probably get a dog. Chloe said about wanting to get a cat at first, but then couldn't do it because Riven "would get territorial." Riven is an integration of Evan and Risk, Risk was a cat alter. I personally hope they don't get any animals if Nan is going to be around them. She seems too fucked up as a person.

Jesus Christ. These people are so painfully retarded. I'll look through the videos I've got archived and see if I can find Nan fighting a literal fucking dog.

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Huh. That can't be right.
Pretty sure that's gotta be a typo. Surely she meant to add, "Except when it's cute."

Nan's fans choose to ignore so many of her own statements that are so damning. I really did find labelling them cultist at first to be a bit of a stretch but it really does seem fitting.

Or, she could break up with Nan and claim she was being manipulated, lied to, abused, whatever scores her the most pity points. It will be added to her long list of traumas and just be another thing that she will look back on and say she was the victim. She might even create a new alter because of it. Her fans will buy it. But, I think she likes having Nan around to control and LARP with. Nan clearly worships Chloe and really feeds into her ego and is willing to do anything for her (as evidenced by how Chloe was carefully controlling Nan’s “apology” livestream by playing the caring girlfriend and telling them to stop and to not get into it) and she’d be hard pressed to give that up. Plus, if they break up, there’s always the chance Nan spills everything.

I completely agree. Chloe is a narcissist and a narcissist needs willing victims. We've seen the pattern before with Jamie. He allowed her to live with him whilst contributing nothing to the household. She argued with his housemates. She threw regular tantrums. She played up her mental illness when Jamie was busy with exams. She controlled his social media. Jamie was lucky enough to get out. Nan is too mentally ill to find an escape route. Frankly, I don't give a fuck about Nan because I do think she's attracted to children or at least a danger to children. I hope one of Chloe's psycho alters is beating her.

'I have [scars] too but they are less visible.' I honestly can't see a single scar, but in the comments, she gets a lot of sympathy for it. It's another example of her hiding behind mental illness to avoid being questioned; I remember seeing a few skeptical comments around the time it was uploaded, but they were all deleted.

It brings to mind the "burning" she claims to have experienced. Scars from burning are so hard to hide. She's posted bikini pictures and there hasn't been a single scar visible. She knows the kind of scars Nan has aren't attractive. She won't go there. I'd like to see her go there just to prove a point only to realise that she can't undo that... but she won't.

I need to up my sleuthing skills. For me Nan is the bigger lolcow. I knew about her channel for a year or two and when I started hearing herself referring herself as asexual, they/them, and triggering I knew she would be part of the tumblr crowd and knew she had this kind of lolcow worthy material somewhere. Unfortunately I didn't find much beyond what her ex said on reddit.

I agree that Nan is the bigger cow, overtly. Chloe is just as much of a cow to me and when you combine the two you've got a great blend of codependency that leads to ridiculous joint storylines like alters integrating at the same time. The birth of Cliff in Nan's head who exists only to simp on Chloe. Together, they make something quite special.
 
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Geez. This makes me cringe. Also, I have never noticed a single scar on her body and she has pictures that show a lot of skin.

I'm sure she will scroll through here and make one happen for her next post somehow. 🙄

Exactly! If she'd only ever worn long sleeved shirts and longer skirts/trousers on camera, it might be just slightly easier to believe her. But she clearly has no issue showing skin, and she has no issue with drawing attention to these non-existent 'scars'. It's pretty obvious, especially when compared to Nan.


I just checked Twitter and I am pleasantly surprised to see people who appear to be members of the DID community not buying into this bullshit. Could it be that this cognitive dissonance spell is breaking?

It's getting harder and harder to sweep this all under the rug. I'm genuinely glad that not all of their fans are buying into these non-apologies and deflection.
 
'I have [scars] too but they are less visible.' I honestly can't see a single scar, but in the comments, she gets a lot of sympathy for it. It's another example of her hiding behind mental illness to avoid being questioned; I remember seeing a few skeptical comments around the time it was uploaded, but they were all deleted.

Someone in the GG thread iirc said they had seen her in person, in a bikini, and she had no scars where she claimed to have burned herself. They said they saw no scars at all.


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I'm currently looking for a reference for a statement made by a previous president of the ISSTD that any presentation of alters that believe they are their own full identity (ie, with a different name) accounts for only 3% of documented cases of DID.

In the soundbite I heard, the then president stated that DID is typically only distinguished from Dissociative Amnesia and Depersonalization-Derealization Disorder in that the depersonalization in DPDRD you aware that it is only a feeling of detachment, and not actual detachment, and in DID there is no longer that distinction. Patients have the sense while they are depersonalized that they are not the same "self" (though not someone else). In Dissociative Amnesia there is no depersonalization or derealization, only loss of recall to varying degrees. DID patients experience dissociative amnesia, depersonalization, and derealization.

She also talked about the social contagion of DID explaining why patients who have not been properly diagnosed with DID present with the rarest form, and the psychiatrist she was talking to concurred, but stated he believed it accounted for ALL of the cases which more closely mimic media representation of DID with the classical symptoms of the no longer valid Multiple Personality Disorder.

The "self-diagnosis" culture of the DID community, which Chloe has helped prop up and spread has been ramping up heavily the past week.


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Less than 25% of the global psychiatric field believes that DID, as it is currently defined, belongs in the DSM and the ICD. It's not quality of healthcare that is the issue, it's that they are trying to help people in actual distress by treating what they believe are the real issues (mainly PTSD, bpd, and Bipolar Disorder). This "we're the most oppressed of all the oppressed!" attitude is probably part of what gives Chloe the audacity to claim she's being oppressed as a POC for people daring to think she's white because she's... white.

Also, The figures they continue to cite are not accurate, in the comments they cite that the most recent figure for DID prevalence is 3.7% based on a study that used DES scores to determine who "met the criteria" for DID. They did not do any research on DES scores in other disorders to eliminate possible inflation of results. The study itself is essentially entirely confirmation bias.

The most recent figure for prevalence of DID is between 1.1% and 1.5%, and is from 2017. Table here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6296396/table/T1/?report=objectonly

Chloe had claimed to never have heard of DID other than in the movies (Sybil, I think she claimed?), but I've found that a lot of her content is a nearly word-for-word plagiarism of Multiplicity & Me, one of Remy Aquarone's cases who only knew of one of her "alters" prior to meeting with him (I suspect she was experiencing depersonalization, and Remy himself encouraged her to create an identity around that depersonalized state).
 
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Loving the typical SJW cannibalism. I wonder if Chloe is going to throw Nan to the zombies they created, Nan pulls Chloe down with her, or will they pull off some sort of win out of this situation and escape relatively unharmed. Either way the excuse vomit should be entertaining either direction the story goes.
 
I had forgotten all about that until I just saw you mention it, but I do remember her ex saying that in that Reddit thread I read a few months back when I was suspicious about what was really going on with those two and started trying to Google around. I don’t remember seeing the video of her growling at the dog, but yeah. No wonder those people kicked her out. And it’s damned annoying she made her videos public again, but carefully went back and removed the more incriminating ones. Whether she did it out of shame, fear of legal problems or wanting to keep her channel active while waiting for this to all blow over and be able to start fresh who knows?

All I know is that she’s in serious damage control mode right now. And it would really be better for her to just own up to things, make real apologies and amends, get real psychological help and try to honestly move forward rather than try to sweep everything under the rug. Unless she does that, this isn’t really going to go away.

im not gonna lie, i started out reading this thread as a fan of DissociaDID and Team Pinata's, so originally it pissed me off, because i didn't see much wrong in what they were doing. sure, some of the mental illness shit was questionable, but i'm usually of the opinion of "if you dont like/believe it, ignore them" but now... well. LOTS of shit has been dug up that i (and lots of other fans) really cant turn a blind eye to. thanks yall for destroying the cognitive dissonance spell *sigh*

now time to reconsider a lot of these mental illness youtubers and shit that i used to enjoy..
 
I know this is a dumb question, but is there any overlap between the DID community now and the old “kin” communities on Tumblr? Because then her sudden emergence as DissoiaDID would make a lot more sense, as well as her fan base saying they have cartoon characters in their heads.

I have some neurotic dedication on this, I joined just to say

"I don't know, but I used to use Live Journal a lot before tumblr. before it seems like everyone stopped using it for other sites. as far as I know, the otherkin-soulbonder-MPD/DID community always was connected, and people hated me because I saw so much connection, it was as if they were the same thing. so many people were part of the same community that I could not diverse the groups"
 
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