Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

TrumpBux info.


Relief money is coming - for some. Here’s what to know.
https://apnews.com/97c9b56db01b6fc8467e80d61bbdb86e (https://archive.vn/XZMgX)

The IRS tweeted Saturday that it had begun depositing the funds into taxpayers’ bank accounts and would be working to get them out as fast as possible.

 

[Techpriest]

Sioux Falls COVID-19 cases outpacing comparable and some larger cities

Gov. Kristi Noem (R-SD) has said she is using the facts, data and science to make decisions about how South Dakota responds to the COVID-19 pandemic and a new week brings a growing problem for the …

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In other news, I'm probably fucked!

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I think he kind of lost the plot today. Trump has been all about the states taking the lead, so why get bent out of shape when they do exactly that?

If NY and the Tri-state area are confident about being able to start reopening (IMO the fact they talking about it means they're gonna start moving ASAP, especially if no aid for lost revenue is yet forthcoming from the Feds) how is that a bad thing for Trump?

Let them do their thing, and use the federal resources to backstop the areas that don't have the medical infrastructure the northeast or any major urban areas has.

Cuomo is in no hurry to reopen. Above all, he wants to be the one to decide when NY and especially NYC will reopen. He wants to make sure that no area will reopen near NYC before he feels NYC is ready. If commuters from Upstate come in, they can reinfect the city. He can stop this by refusing to open Upstate before NYC, which he has indicated he will. But he can't control outside of NY, and there are a lot of commuters from NJ and CT. So he has convinced the nearby governors what's good for the goose is good for the surrounding ganders.

This is only the half of it. He has felt NYC has gotten shortchanged Federally throughout this outbreak. He wanted 40,000 ventilators; Trump refused. He wanted Federal Disasterbux, Congress refused. He also sees this as a way to leverage repeal of SALT tax law changes which hurt NY and other Dem run high tax states. He also doesn't want to see other areas open before NYC and hurt it's supremacy as a primary financial center and get it left behind in a recovery.

So he bands together as many governors as he can, bypassing the Republican led National Governors Association, to create an opposition to any Trump reopening plan that doesn't put NYC first.

 

[rando0675309]

Cuomo is in no hurry to reopen. Above all, he wants to be the one to decide when NY and especially NYC will reopen. He wants to make sure that no area will reopen near NYC before he feels NYC is ready. If commuters from Upstate come in, they can reinfect the city. He can stop this by refusing to open Upstate before NYC, which he has indicated he will. But he can't control outside of NY, and there are a lot of commuters from NJ and CT. So he has convinced the nearby governors what's good for the goose is good for the surrounding ganders.

This is only the half of it. He has felt NYC has gotten shortchanged Federally throughout this outbreak. He wanted 40,000 ventilators; Trump refused. He wanted Federal Disasterbux, Congress refused. He also sees this as a way to leverage repeal of SALT tax law changes which hurt NY and other Dem run high tax states. He also doesn't want to see other areas open before NYC and hurt it's supremacy as a primary financial center and get it left behind in a recovery.

So he bands together as many governors as he can, bypassing the Republican led National Governors Association, to create an opposition to any Trump reopening plan that doesn't put NYC first.

While I see where you're coming from, I have to disagree about Cuomo not being in a rush to reopen. Tax revenues for NY State are absolutely fucked, and the money needed to start coming in yesterday, otherwise he's gonna have to cut the gibs that get Dems elected in the state.

That said, to avoid the scenario you proposed, if I were McConnell and Trump, I would not pass any kind of revenue relief for the states until they're well on the path to reopening. Otherwise Trump has no leverage. Its like a kid holding their breath, they're gonna have to breathe (reopen and get that sweet, sweet tax revenue to bribe certain voting groups with gibs) eventually.

 

[Intensening Rapeye]

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I fully expect President Trump

 

[DNA_JACKED]

I'm absolutely not advocating stopping lockdown measures, if I was in charge I'd push for it until a vaccine is ready. I'm not sure if that's realistic though.

Holy blinders batman. You think there is anything realistic about shutting down all of society for 18 months because a coof might kill your grandma?

Shit dude, if you lived in the time of smallpox, measles, or mumps, you'd blow your own brains out in fear. The virus isnt that dangerous for fucks sake! It sucks, but its nowhere nearly as deadly as the spanish flu, hell at this point it has only killed half as many as the swine flu in 2009 in america. Did you hide under your bead throughout all of 2009? At the moment, the ChinkAIDS has killed 23,600 people, 60,000 died from swine flu.

Humans were not meant to sit in boxes like unused toys. The economy would utterly collapse after 18 months of total shutdown. The effect of shutting down other medical services because of corona will kill more people then corona will. Most people are not going to give up a year and a half of their life because there is a 1% chance youll die of the coof.

 

[FatalTater]

TrumpBux info.


Relief money is coming - for some. Here’s what to know.
https://apnews.com/97c9b56db01b6fc8467e80d61bbdb86e (https://archive.vn/XZMgX)

So disabled people on SSI are going to get a check too, even though they don't work and therefore haven't been out of work because of Covid-19? Am I missing something or is there a good reason for that?

 

[and 3 others]

Honestly though we're going to be dealing with this through may and into June and anyone pretending otherwise is really damn deluded.

You seem very certain about this. Would you perhaps be willing to wager the eating of a hat on the outcome?

 

[Rudy Russo]

Outside China

1,835,642 confirmed / 116,243 dead / 370959 recovered

1763829 / 110758 / 343772 yesterday

Iran

73,303 confirmed / 4,585 dead / 45983 recovered

71686 / 4474 / 43894 yesterday

USA

581,679 confirmed / 22023 dead / 43,738 recovered JohnHopkins
587,759 confirmed / 23,656 dead / 43,924 recovered Infection2020

555398 / 22023 / 32988 yesterday JohnHopkins
560501 / 22092 / 33199 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

170,099 confirmed / 17,756 dead / 64,727 recovered

166831 / 17209 / 62391 yesterday

Italy

159,516 confirmed / 20,465 dead / 35,435 recovered

156363 / 19899 / 34211 yesterday

France

137,877 confirmed / 14,986 dead / 28,001 recovered

133670 / 14412 / 27469 yesterday

Germany

130072 confirmed / 3,194 dead / 64,300 recovered

127854 / 3022 / 60300 yesterday

China dead 3345 up from 3343 yesterday

John Hopkins changed their site a little over the weekend and now the USA dead count didnt update today.

 

[Radical Cadre]

I think he kind of lost the plot today. Trump has been all about the states taking the lead, so why get bent out of shape when they do exactly that?

If NY and the Tri-state area are confident about being able to start reopening (IMO the fact they talking about it means they're gonna start moving ASAP, especially if no aid for lost revenue is yet forthcoming from the Feds) how is that a bad thing for Trump?

Let them do their thing, and use the federal resources to backstop the areas that don't have the medical infrastructure the northeast or any major urban areas has.

Cuomo wants to make sure Pennsylvania doesn't swing Republican again. By making an 11th hour coalition 12 hours too late, he can keep things closed and blame the blue collar job losses on Trump. If they can open up early, he can take the credit away from Trump.

Problem is that most of Trump's voters aren't as stupid as Cuomo thinks they are.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Cuomo wants to make sure Pennsylvania doesn't swing Republican again. By making an 11th hour coalition 12 hours too late, he can keep things closed and blame the blue collar job losses on Trump. If they can open up early, he can take the credit away from Trump.

Problem is that most of Trump's voters aren't as stupid as Cuomo thinks they are.

PA voted for Tom Wolf twice, I think you underestimate how dumb PA people are.

 

[Mrs. Addams]

Minor LA Suburb Update:
- The governer says he will tell us the plan for lifting the lockdown tomorrow. Half the people think it will be great to have a roadmap, and the other half is screaming that as soon as he lifts it, we'll all die. I'm assuming he'll tell us some milestones he wants us to hit, and not actually commit to any dates. Still good info, I guess.

Spoiler: Dumb Local News

- As of Wednesday we are required to wear masks for all essential activities Most people are already wearing them and shops are requiring them. It suddenly feels like a war zone, but at least Starbucks is still open.
- There was a big line outside Trader Joes at 4PM. This is the first line I've seen in real life, but I've been going out at weird hours to avoid people.
- All the local parks closed abruptly right before Easter. They say the grass is too wet from the rain, and can't be walked on. Lol.
- I went to the beach Friday and there were lots of keep out signs and cop cars. Had to find a secret way around... When I got there, I found a handful of local people, joggers, and surfers; spaced far apart and keeping good social distancing... so that was all very nice and as it should be.
- The number of people making sarcastic jokes about how dumb the paranoid people are, is rising drastically.
- One bright spot in this all is that everyone is adopting dogs and cats. Apparently the rescues are mostly empty.

 

[RodgerDodger]

So disabled people on SSI are going to get a check too, even though they don't work and therefore haven't been out of work because of Covid-19? Am I missing something or is there a good reason for that?

It gets weirder. Retirees receiving Social Security are getting a check too, provided their total reported income is less that ~$80k annually. Once again their income streams haven't been interrupted.

 

[Smug Cat]

Anyone posted this yet?
https://www.governor.wa.gov/news-media/washington-oregon-and-california-announce-western-states-pact (https://archive.li/R3f6G)

Looks like California/Oregon/Washington are doing the same thing as NY and surrounding states.

 

[Radical Cadre]

PA voted for Tom Wolf twice, I think you underestimate how dumb PA people are.

I live here, I know.

But most of those people are in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh and they aren't voting for Trump anyway. This would be aimed at the "drive-past" counties in PA, the gooey center that could change their vote if their jobs stay closed. But generally speaking and from many discussions I've had over the last several weeks, they aren't falling for it. What @JosephStalin was saying earlier is ringing true all across the plains and mountains of Pennsylvania: Trump is working for them while everyone else is working for themselves.

Whether or not that pans out we will have to see. But so far it looks like rural areas that the DNC needs aren't being turned.

 

[Jump]

Cuomo wants to make sure Pennsylvania doesn't swing Republican again. By making an 11th hour coalition 12 hours too late, he can keep things closed and blame the blue collar job losses on Trump. If they can open up early, he can take the credit away from Trump.

Problem is that most of Trump's voters aren't as stupid as Cuomo thinks they are.

His coalition is made up of the most retarded states. None can afford to play this game. Massachusetts was in ruff shape before coronachan showed up. Connecticut was basically already comply fucked.

 

[Stoneheart]

If you need meat, consider telling your representatives to give us spaniards a call. Like two or three days ago we had on the news reports of meat plants resorting to dry aging because with our exports cut they can't sell enough to cope with their massive fucking productions.

Im waiting for that stuff to hit the market, jummy!
I also just bought alot of brandy from spain. they had a sale for some reason and im now well stocked again( the booze shop delivers with DHL so there is no problem getting it here).
Im also looking for some Jamón Ibérico but prices are to high or delivery looks shaky.

One word of advice: I've seen 1 news post claiming this sunday spanish churches tolled their bells for the deceased by coronavirus. It's bullshit. They did it because it's easter sunday, they do it every year, it ain't got nothing to do with best girl.

in what world do there people life to not understand that?

Trader Joe's actually has good prices on exotic stuff, but I think most of it is processed in the states.

Its a german company and i guess they ship in some overproductions from germany from time to time.

. Get rid of those and it's not too bad. In the EU Spanish stuff isn't that expensive though groceries in the EU are noticeably pricier than they are in the US. Then again, how much of your monthly spending goes on chorizo sausage? I love that shit and the supermarket I buy it from isn't the cheapest but even I don't spend enough that I worry about what it costs. I mean it's going to cost a bit more than US/South American produced stuff, but it's going to taste a hell of a lot better.

Groceries are pricier in some EU countries but not in all. Germany is cheaper than most US states and that with Tax included.

 

[pwnest injun]

We're not 100% sure on that one yet. Corona is a super infectious little bastard and we're honestly lucky that it hasn't been worse than it is. It's not as mutable as influenza is. It's not as lethal as SARS was. But if the pace of change for it increases, and we start seeing more strains, then buckle up because this bastard is going to stick around forever then.

It's running free in the Petri dish that is the Indian subcontinent. If mutates into something altogether different, it'll happen there.

Ruminating a bit on CoV's binding to ACE2 receptors changing the shape of the cell wall and allowing for much easier bacterial adhesion got me thinking.
What if it's not genetic disposition that's causing whole families to explode with the roni? What if the people who are getting obliterated by the infection are just colonized with atypical bacteria? Roughly 10% of people have group A strep in their upper respiratory tract (going up to 20% in the winter months). Maybe it's just as simple as that? If you catch the CoV, and you have one of the bugs it makes you susceptible to, then it starts to rapidly invade and destroy important tissues.

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

His coalition is made up of the most exceptional states. None can afford to play this game. Massachusetts was in ruff shape before coronachan showed up. Connecticut was basically already comply fucked.

I'm glad Governor Scott was left out of or chose not to get involved with the Northeastern Brain Trust that King Cuomo I set up. Those filthy New York snowbirds can stay on their side of Lake Champlain for all I care. Massholes can also keep to their reservation, I'm tired of them shitting up the roads with their shitty Boston driving. I don't care if you can pahk tha cah in Ha-vahd yahd, I've dealt with enough of you fuckers on I-89 to know that you can't drive - especially during winter.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

>Governor of California keeps calling his Jurisdiction a "Nation-State"
>New York State started a coalition with its neighbor states; At first small, it now has expanded to encompass Pennsylvania to Maine, which is basically all of Greater New England
>Will just open up their economies when they want and attempt to ignore Federal Supremacy
>Trump has done a 180 from his "let the states handle it" to "he is the supreme authority" on this

Hey wait a minute.