Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Not Really Here]

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What made NEETs and autistic people joyous Alex?!

 

[Feline Supremacist]

No I don’t think so. It’s all new and noone really has any idea what will work best. Comforting thought eh?

I have feeling "experts" took their cues from chinkland and, believing their stats on coronavirus to be accurate and true, counseled that we should lock down our cities just like chinkland did because it worked for them, right? Except we don't know that it has worked since the chinks having been lying and obfuscating from the beginning and in all likelihood it hasn't worked, at least in chinkland.

The idea you could lock down Britain and the United States for any length of time is absolute insanity. The weather was a bit warm one day this weekend an people were already out and about, social distancing be damned.

Q for britfag who are doing the grocery runs right now.

Is it just me, or do the prices seem to be spiralling upwards? I work to a strict budget, so I’m price sensitive in the store, and I’ve noticed that everyhting that’s often on offer isn’t on offer any more. The 3 for 2 offers and the casual 50p offs have gone missing as well. I do the big shop in the same store each week, so I’m pretty sure I’m comparing like with like. I’ve been through old receipts and there’s definitely a bunch of shit that’s more expensive because it’s come off “regular” offer. Like, if you’re not overly fussy about the brand of your laundry detergent and softener, there is always some variant of the big brands on offer. So you buy what’s cheapest that week. Likewise chocolate biscuits, joints of meat etc. You pick up this week’s ‘deal’ because a biscuit is a biscuit and one week there’s Penguins in the tin and one week it’s Clubs, and that’s life.

I just trim off some shit I probably shouldn’t buy anyway, but it occurs to me shitloads of people have lost jobs or had wage cuts, and if there’s a “real” rather than RPI determined rise in the cost of your personal weekly shop, that’s going to hit some people awful hard.

Has anyone else noticed this or got reason to believe it?

That happened here in the US at one store I usually go to but I went a few blocks away to a larger store and they were well stocked and had lots of sales. Toilet paper (huge supply), bleach. Lysol, sacks of rice and pallets of water. This store seemed to be sourcing stock from overseas as some of the name brands had Asian (not Chinese) or non-English writing. I don't know what's up with that but I'll take TP from Singapore if I have to.

 

[Silver Chariot]

I wonder how the medical residents are doing. They must be utterly stressed out more than usual, and they had it rough even before this.
Any kiwis know a resident? Wonder how it's like on the other side of the sterile curtains.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

I wonder how the medical residents are doing. They must be utterly stressed out more than usual, and they had it rough even before this.
Any kiwis know a resident? Wonder how it's like on the other side of the sterile curtains.

Cant talk about anywhere but andalucia I guess, over here they're doing fine. I know multiple, they usually have a lot of issues with organization and paperwork 'cause they're not used to the system's quirks, so unions gotta help them with that a lot, but since due to all the changes since corona EVERYONE has issues now they've adapted quicker than most. Same with the panick. Usually they're more on edge, but seeing their handlers be on edge seems to have woken up the part of them that says "this is not a good time to freak out", so they held the line like the best of them. I'm honestly really proud of every single worker in the province.

 

[New & Improved Username]

Never forget: China is the worst country, even worse than India

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/05/09/chinese-visitors-welcome-disneyland-to-town-by-defecating-in-the-bushes

Have the Chinese Replaced Americans As the Worst Tourists in the World?

They're obnoxious vandals who can't drive and shit in public, apparently.

www.vice.com

A Swedish TV Show Said Chinese Tourists Poop In Public And People Are Pissed

The program also told Chinese tourists that if they "see a person with their dog on the street, this does not mean they have just bought their lunch."

www.buzzfeednews.com

street shitters and bat eaters

 

[jje100010001]

Chinese people are allowed to talk about problems like this, unlike Americans (look at those who have been fired for criticizing the failure of Lakewood, NJ residents to comply with anti-coronavirus measures). Who is really 'free'?

Uhh... you might want to read what you wrote once again. I don't think your brain correctly parsed what your handler gave you.

The phrasing is so Chinese, complete with the gratuitous use of apostrophes/quotation marks to question the validity of a word (If you pay attention, most Chinese overuse them), false equivalences on freedom, and accusations that people are not "grateful" enough (kowtowing to authorities).

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Some people wonder if overprotecting from corona-chan is more lethal? https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._from_covid_19_could_make_it_more_lethal.html

http://archive.vn/NAG2y

April 14, 2020
Viruses 101: How Overprotecting People from COVID 19 Could Make it More Lethal
By Brandon P. Reines
With heroic imagination rivalling Don Quixote’s, our hysterical health technocrats are stuck in a time capsule in the middle of World War 1 from which they battle the most terrible pathogen of all time -- the original H1N1 flu virus. How else to explain why they have adopted precisely the public health tactics -- masking, social distancing, and quarantining -- that were used in 1918?
Our wildly anachronistic approach to COVID 19 notwithstanding, we have spent billions for research and know volumes more about viruses and immunity than we did a century ago. The crime is that we the taxpaying public never received a proper education on the subject. I realized that myself 20 years ago when I first read J. R. Paul’s A History of Poliomyelitis. It quietly reveals that almost none of what we have learned in American public schools is even close to the truth.
More importantly, the deep knowledge of viruses garnered from studying both the original H1N1 flu and polio strongly implies that, if we continue to over-react and over-protect people from COVID 19, we risk turning it into a much more lethal virus. In order to understand why I am so concerned about that, first let’s look at how the original flu virus turned into the worst killer the world has ever known, one which not only felled older people and those with weakened immunity, but people in the prime of life including older children and young adults:
1) In general, viruses evolve with their human hosts to get what they need without killing us. Allowing us to survive actually benefits the virus -- they get to survive, too, and get passed to another human host.
2) During WWI, millions of people globally were terrified, malnourished and immuno-suppressed.
3) Soldiers lay in foxholes bleeding, coughing and vomiting on each other.
4) In this chaotic situation, the flu virus could "get away with" becoming extremely lethal and kill the host soldiers -- because there were so many of them in close proximity -- the virus could spread to another soldier almost as easily from a dead soldier as from a live one.
5) Having millions of people with weakened immunity allowed the flu virus to spread quickly and easily into new populations.
How did the H1N1 monster of 1918 become -- evolve into--the relatively meek flu viruses of today? As the human population gradually recovered from WW1, the flu virus had to go back to the safety of peaceful coexistence with its human hosts, and to co-evolving with their immune systems in a way that would allow both species to survive. The real polio story is similar:
Incredibly, from our modern “civilized” standpoint, and as David Shumway Jones recently reminded me, the polio virus was not dangerous until natural herd immunity was disrupted by modern sewerage systems which short-circuited usual fecal-oral natural immunization.

 

[MrBlueSocks]

Q for britfag who are doing the grocery runs right now.

Is it just me, or do the prices seem to be spiralling upwards? I work to a strict budget, so I’m price sensitive in the store, and I’ve noticed that everyhting that’s often on offer isn’t on offer any more. The 3 for 2 offers and the casual 50p offs have gone missing as well. I do the big shop in the same store each week, so I’m pretty sure I’m comparing like with like. I’ve been through old receipts and there’s definitely a bunch of shit that’s more expensive because it’s come off “regular” offer. Like, if you’re not overly fussy about the brand of your laundry detergent and softener, there is always some variant of the big brands on offer. So you buy what’s cheapest that week. Likewise chocolate biscuits, joints of meat etc. You pick up this week’s ‘deal’ because a biscuit is a biscuit and one week there’s Penguins in the tin and one week it’s Clubs, and that’s life.

I just trim off some shit I probably shouldn’t buy anyway, but it occurs to me shitloads of people have lost jobs or had wage cuts, and if there’s a “real” rather than RPI determined rise in the cost of your personal weekly shop, that’s going to hit some people awful hard.

Has anyone else noticed this or got reason to believe it?

Yes. I've seen exactly what you described, I'd just characterise it a bit differently.

For the main online delivered Sainsbury's shop.
- Standard prices are the same.
- Some items are still missing, but there's a pretty close substitute available.
- Most of the BOGOFs and other deals have disappeared. Still some there though.

For M&S physical shop:
- All the same prices as pre-event, if they have it. Certain items missing, but hardly any. They've still got their longstanding 3 for £7 on sliced ham etc.

I suspect that all the upstream suppliers have simplified and streamlined their operations, due to missing staff, and issues with their suppliers etc.
E.g. Can't seem to get Yorkshire Gold tea, but basic Yorkshire tea is fine.
Deals in supermarkets , 2 for 1s etc originate with the manufacturer I think,. They organise a general promotion and the supermarket implements it how they see fit. I really don't suppose the Penguin biscuits marketing dept is too concerned with doing this right now. They're all at home. Only the basic functions are on site at the factory.

Late breaking:
I've just been told that online ASDA definitely had some 3 for 2 type deals going.
I've got to do my third M&S run of the lockdown this afternoon. I'll see if the situation has changed since the last one over a week ago.

 

[jje100010001]

Photos show bodies piled up and stored in vacant rooms at Detroit hospital

Photos shared among emergency room staff at Sinai-Grace Hospital in Detroit show bodies being stored in vacant hospital rooms and piled on top of each other inside refrigerated holding units brought into the hospital's parking lot.

www.cnn.com

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They even stuck bodies in a room used for sleep studies. Why is one person on the chair instead of laying them across the bed the other way?

And why the bed and not the floor? Are they going to test sleep apnea people on that bed when the plague is done?

Honestly the thing that needs to happen after this is the legislation of larger morgues in hospitals, for pandemic situations.

 

[Plaguemine]

I wonder how the medical residents are doing. They must be utterly stressed out more than usual, and they had it rough even before this.
Any kiwis know a resident? Wonder how it's like on the other side of the sterile curtains.

Some are getting their kids taken away or removed to relatives (thankfully if its friendly relatives) but I dont like this level of control.
This is too far, personality

 

[Not Really Here]

Source / Archive

December 31st? THE SAME DAY TAIWAN TOLD YOU HUMAN TO HUMAN TRANSMISSION WAS HAPPENING?

I wonder why she thought that?

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Video Archives for April 13

Quite a long video but definitely worth watching IMO

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

Interesting interview by Scott Horton with an OTR trucker. Talking changes to distribution, enforcement of where truckers can park, changes to truck stop fare.

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

Styx vlogged another corona-chan update.

Some Youtubers commented some food for thoughts.

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

These things are even more cringey than the Youtube Happy Tree Friends PSAs:

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVES

John Conway, who invented the Game of Life, died of COVID19

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Horton_Conway

https://web.archive.org/web/20200413120204/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Horton_Conway

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Numberphile have an obituary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsecAiJDI8s

https://archive.vn/wip/beVv5

This made me laugh

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and remember

 

[Silver Chariot]

Some are getting their kids taken away or removed to relatives (thankfully if its friendly relatives) but I dont like this level of control.
This is too far, personality

I tried to verify the first story (the Katie Spencer one) at least with other not-that-biased sources. Most of the other sources were right-wing in nature (Breitbart, Washington Sentinel). Though I believe this is the best report for both sides of the story:

https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-used-in-stroud-custody-battle-emergency-order/

http://archive.li/KVkNH

The court alleges that the mother had a history of neglect against her children, but the articles notes that her ex-husband has a history of domestic abuse - allegations made by the mother.
And to top it all off, this is on an Indian Reservation, as the judge is a Sac and Fox Nation District Court judge. IIRC, they pretty much have their own way of doing things.
There's a lot we don't know about this case and the full story is clouded in utter murkiness. I cannot make a reasonable opinion out of all of this.

Personally I don't things will ever get that bad. Once MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, and hell, the AP start reporting this shit... then I'd be fucking scared.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Some are getting their kids taken away or removed to relatives (thankfully if its friendly relatives) but I dont like this level of control.
This is too far, personality

Okay that's fucking shitty so not defending the decision; but for clarification both those cases seem more like child custody battle shit using big bad Corona-Chan as an excuse to take the kids away from the mom

 

[Plaguemine]

And to top it all off, this is on an Indian Reservation, as the judge is a Sac and Fox Nation District Court judge. IIRC, they pretty much have their own way of doing things.
There's a lot we don't know about this case and the full story is clouded in utter murkiness. I cannot make a reasonable opinion out of all of this.

I didnt catch the indian reservation part. But I just read that the kids were taken away so easily to someone who supposedly has a record.
If it's that easy for someone to complain and override everything in the name of saving the children, I can see it getting worse.

Okay that's fucking shitty so not defending the decision; but for clarification both those cases seem more like child custody battle shit using big bad Corona-Chan as an excuse to take the kids away from the mom

I know that, but they just took them away from the custody holder so easily. No warning no nothing. Also they had so many other family members to drop the kid on, first.
I can see them escalating this eventually to anyone who has been around anyone with a coof. Or someone working retail.

Call me crazy but, kids cant do anything about this and it's an easy power grab so I cant put it past anyone to not take it.

 

[Powder Puff Gorl]

I just want to point out that while the lockdowns are going on, there are state and local governments that are planning for contingencies for when things open up. My little southern state has been doing this since the start because we are mostly rural and supplies are limited. They've been purchasing ventilators and working in tandem with the state health officials to offset any jump in cases when the social distancing is eased up (we're not officially on lockdown). All states should be doing this and should have all along. Unless they're run by people who love the idea of being in indefinite control and having their populace at their mercy.

Hospitals are furloughing employees around here, and some are outright laying them off. The dairy industry is being negatively affected here. Small businesses are being decimated, some closing outright all together. How are these people supposed to support themselves and families if they don't have jobs? Then there's the psychological aspect. Some people can live off their pride indefinitely by the belief that they are "saving" everyone else by supporting a one size fits all draconian measure. For the rest of us, life has to regain normalcy, and it can because the situations in all states aren't the same. There's a big difference between choosing to stay inside and being told you can't go outside. The latter is what screws with our brains.

 

[SpEd Kaczynski]

Karen: You just want to let the elderly to die to protect your precious stock portfolio!

Me: No, I don't want anyone to die. But I think that long term lockdown could have effects on the economy that could potentially have second and third order effects that in the long run will cause more deaths and suffering than the virus itself. I'm like you in that I want the least amount of deaths and suffering out of this, I just don't think that locking everything down until we get a vaccine is necessarily the best approach. I don't even have anything against more targeted regional lockdowns and quarantines, in fact I would support those and think they will be required to keep the deathtoll down.

I also worry about potential civil rights abuses and loss of freedom. Every time something like this happens, certain people in positions of power are ready to jump in and use it as an excuse to take away our rights. This always happens and we need to be vigilant or it will happen this time also. For example, after 9/11 authoritarian measures were put in place that are still in place almost two decades later.

Karen: Cult of Moloch! Worshiper of Mammon! Greedy capitalist like you care more about Wall Street than about everyday people!

 

[mr.moon1488]

Never forget: China is the worst country, even worse than India

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/05/09/chinese-visitors-welcome-disneyland-to-town-by-defecating-in-the-bushes

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Have the Chinese Replaced Americans As the Worst Tourists in the World?

They're obnoxious vandals who can't drive and shit in public, apparently.

www.vice.com

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A Swedish TV Show Said Chinese Tourists Poop In Public And People Are Pissed

The program also told Chinese tourists that if they "see a person with their dog on the street, this does not mean they have just bought their lunch."

www.buzzfeednews.com

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street shitters and bat eaters

lol everyone loves Chinese tourists.

Spoiler: gross

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Hard to look after the elderly when we don't have the money to pay for their care.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I wonder how the medical residents are doing. They must be utterly stressed out more than usual, and they had it rough even before this.
Any kiwis know a resident? Wonder how it's like on the other side of the sterile curtains.

Anyone in the hot zones is probably losing their mind right now. Everyone else are probably bored out of their minds as all other procedures in the country have halted, and its not like WuFlu is evenly distributed. Most States barely have any cases at all.

Never forget: China is the worst country, even worse than India

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/05/09/chinese-visitors-welcome-disneyland-to-town-by-defecating-in-the-bushes

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Have the Chinese Replaced Americans As the Worst Tourists in the World?

They're obnoxious vandals who can't drive and shit in public, apparently.

www.vice.com

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A Swedish TV Show Said Chinese Tourists Poop In Public And People Are Pissed

The program also told Chinese tourists that if they "see a person with their dog on the street, this does not mean they have just bought their lunch."

www.buzzfeednews.com

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street shitters and bat eaters

Thanks for the new avatar