Diseased Shippers, Anti-Shippers, and Shipping Wars - When fictional characters fucking each other is a political statement

Eh, the FE fandom has ALWAYS been like that; even from before there were any silent protagonists a la Kris, Robin, Corrin and now Byleth. I got into FE many years ago and the Blazing Blade fans would tear each other apart over who was the best waifu for Eliwood or Hector, or the best husbando for Lyndis. :story:
Kris, Robin, and Corrin aren't silent protagonists though. They talk a lot.
 
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Kris, Robin, and Corrin aren't silent protagonists though. They talk a lot.

My mistake on that one, oops. But otoh they're protagonists supposed to be more or less audience surrogates like in visual novels (not all of them being dating sims), so there's always a bit of a self-insertion deal with them (and Byleth) and it can't be helped because that's how things work. :/a

The utter buttfury coming from the detractors is hilarious as fuck, though. I remember people wailing because Avatar Characters in FE are "SUCH SELF-INSERTS, WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!", then turning around to whine that Byleth "has no personality" aka "s/he's NOT ENOUGH OF A SELF-INSERT, WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!". :story:

As a bonus, the Bleach fandom is still stupid AF. Noriaki "Tite" Kubo makes a cute "Stay at home" doodle including Ichigo and his son with Orihime, Kazui, and the IchiRuki titbabes go WILD.

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Keep an eye on this Kathy girl. She'll be important.

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I don't think an ending made four years ago cn be changed now due to your wailing, Karen.

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"Ichigo should cheat on his wife in front of his son, news at 11."

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Yeh, because using vomit.gif imges and spamming Kubo with IR pictures is the way to change his mind.
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And this comes from the same brats who insist that Rukia MUST be in love with Ichigo and wail when reminded that she's not.

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LOL

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LOL 2.0

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Karen-Kathy tries her BS in Spanish and no one buys it.


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Is it just me, or this art seems to be traced? Whether it is or not, I love how the IR's hate poor Kazui but "steal" for their own purposes when it's conven ient

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Another idiot thinks they can sneak in speaking in Spanish.

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Stop playing dumb, Karen-Kathy.

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"Orihime's love is bad nd forced but Rukia's love is fated and eternal" lmao


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Wow, Karen-Kathy. Now you try Babelfish!Japanese? You still got caught like the dumb bitch you are.

This other "Karen" is something else. She launched in an almost dozen-Tweet long tirade about the horrors of the ending, Rukia and Ichigo being DESTINY, Orihime being SHIT, Renji being a MURDERERRRRRR, blah blah.

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There are even more "examples", but I'm lazy AF. In short: the IchiRuki Karens are still screaming that they wanna speak to Kubo's "manager" because they didn't get their precious OTP four years ago. :story:
 

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My mistake on that one, oops. But otoh they're protagonists supposed to be more or less audience surrogates like in visual novels (not all of them being dating sims), so there's always a bit of a self-insertion deal with them (and Byleth) and it can't be helped because that's how things work. :/a

The utter buttfury coming from the detractors is hilarious as fuck, though. I remember people wailing because Avatar Characters in FE are "SUCH SELF-INSERTS, WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!", then turning around to whine that Byleth "has no personality" aka "s/he's NOT ENOUGH OF A SELF-INSERT, WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!". :story:

As a bonus, the Bleach fandom is still stupid AF. Noriaki "Tite" Kubo makes a cute "Stay at home" doodle including Ichigo and his son with Orihime, Kazui, and the IchiRuki titbabes go WILD.

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Keep an eye on this Kathy girl. She'll be important.

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I don't think an ending made four years ago cn be changed now due to your wailing, Karen.

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"Ichigo should cheat on his wife in front of his son, news at 11."

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Yeh, because using vomit.gif imges and spamming Kubo with IR pictures is the way to change his mind.
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And this comes from the same brats who insist that Rukia MUST be in love with Ichigo and wail when reminded that she's not.

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LOL

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LOL 2.0

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Karen-Kathy tries her BS in Spanish and no one buys it.


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Is it just me, or this art seems to be traced? Whether it is or not, I love how the IR's hate poor Kazui but "steal" for their own purposes when it's conven ient

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Another idiot thinks they can sneak in speaking in Spanish.

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Stop playing dumb, Karen-Kathy.

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"Orihime's love is bad nd forced but Rukia's love is fated and eternal" lmao


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Wow, Karen-Kathy. Now you try Babelfish!Japanese? You still got caught like the dumb bitch you are.

This other "Karen" is something else. She launched in an almost dozen-Tweet long tirade about the horrors of the ending, Rukia and Ichigo being DESTINY, Orihime being SHIT, Renji being a MURDERERRRRRR, blah blah.

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There are even more "examples", but I'm lazy AF. In short: the IchiRuki Karens are still screaming that they wanna speak to Kubo's "manager" because they didn't get their precious OTP four years ago. :story:
Retarded Ichiruki shippers will never cease to amuse me. Bitches, Ichiruki is dead, Ichigo gave his heart to the nice girl with the big tiddies. Meanwhile, the flat-chested tomboy had her heart set on the thicc redhead twice her size who always loved her back.
 
exceptional Ichiruki shippers will never cease to amuse me. Bitches, Ichiruki is dead, Ichigo gave his heart to the nice girl with the big tiddies. Meanwhile, the flat-chested tomboy had her heart set on the thicc redhead twice her size who always loved her back.
"But a girl sleeps in his closet, that means she's in love with him"
 
exceptional Ichiruki shippers will never cease to amuse me. Bitches, Ichiruki is dead, Ichigo gave his heart to the nice girl with the big tiddies. Meanwhile, the flat-chested tomboy had her heart set on the thicc redhead twice her size who always loved her back.
Speaking of, there's also some tumblrinas who want to ship Orihime with Tatsuki because of how the earlier chapters show them as close friends. But of course, this being tumblr, they view as "OMG LESBIANS!!", instead of, you know, friends.
 
Speaking of, there's also some tumblrinas who want to ship Orihime with Tatsuki because of how the earlier chapters show them as close friends. But of course, this being tumblr, they view as "OMG LESBIANS!!", instead of, you know, friends.


Tatsuki/Orihime is actually a cute alternative to IchiHime, if you ask me, and so are Rukia/Orihime and Riruka/Orihime. Seeing the Tumblrettes latch on genuinely cute ships because OMG LESBIAN FETISH UWU UWU is pretty disappointing. *sigh*
 
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My mistake on that one, oops. But otoh they're protagonists supposed to be more or less audience surrogates like in visual novels (not all of them being dating sims), so there's always a bit of a self-insertion deal with them (and Byleth) and it can't be helped because that's how things work. :/a

The utter buttfury coming from the detractors is hilarious as fuck, though. I remember people wailing because Avatar Characters in FE are "SUCH SELF-INSERTS, WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!", then turning around to whine that Byleth "has no personality" aka "s/he's NOT ENOUGH OF A SELF-INSERT, WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!". :story:

As a bonus, the Bleach fandom is still stupid AF. Noriaki "Tite" Kubo makes a cute "Stay at home" doodle including Ichigo and his son with Orihime, Kazui, and the IchiRuki titbabes go WILD.

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Keep an eye on this Kathy girl. She'll be important.

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I don't think an ending made four years ago cn be changed now due to your wailing, Karen.

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"Ichigo should cheat on his wife in front of his son, news at 11."

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nope.gif

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Yeh, because using vomit.gif imges and spamming Kubo with IR pictures is the way to change his mind.
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And this comes from the same brats who insist that Rukia MUST be in love with Ichigo and wail when reminded that she's not.

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LOL

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LOL 2.0

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Karen-Kathy tries her BS in Spanish and no one buys it.


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Is it just me, or this art seems to be traced? Whether it is or not, I love how the IR's hate poor Kazui but "steal" for their own purposes when it's conven ient

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Another idiot thinks they can sneak in speaking in Spanish.

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Stop playing dumb, Karen-Kathy.

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"Orihime's love is bad nd forced but Rukia's love is fated and eternal" lmao


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Wow, Karen-Kathy. Now you try Babelfish!Japanese? You still got caught like the dumb bitch you are.

This other "Karen" is something else. She launched in an almost dozen-Tweet long tirade about the horrors of the ending, Rukia and Ichigo being DESTINY, Orihime being SHIT, Renji being a MURDERERRRRRR, blah blah.

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There are even more "examples", but I'm lazy AF. In short: the IchiRuki Karens are still screaming that they wanna speak to Kubo's "manager" because they didn't get their precious OTP four years ago. :story:
Nah man it's okay. Self inserts are honestly better than silent protagonists in dating sims. I would rather have bland than nothing.

The only Bleach ship I care about is whatever ship Yoruichi is in.
 
Nah man it's okay. Self inserts are honestly better than silent protagonists in dating sims. I would rather have bland than nothing.

The only Bleach ship I care about is whatever ship Yoruichi is in.

Yoruichi's fight against one of the Sternritters and one of the novels imply that she DOES hook up with Urahara in the end. Unsurprisingly, the YoruSoi fans threw shitfits at that.
 
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Some of my personal experiences with shippingtards

Pokemon shippers have their "nevermet" cult where they go insane masturbating to imaginary relationships between characters that had nothing to do with each other. I would see obnoxious "big name on the forum" users at Serebii with long signatures full of cutesy fanart claiming "official shipper of so and so"... for example two gym leaders from TWO DIFFERENT GENERATIONS, a forgotten character of the day with a recurring character of a different story arc, anime characters with manga characters, etc. Ash/Gary cultists are the oldest holdout of Alphabet shippers and they were already calling everyone else Literally Hitler homophobes since the early 00s. Ash/Serena cultists completely miss the joke that it was supposed to be one-sided because Ash is a fucking kid, and when they say "they kissed" it's also the same lunacy, the joke is that the kiss is implied and Ash didn't even register he got a smooch because again, he is a fucking kid.

The normie spergs: Ash/Misty is so normie but still deranged. Just waltz through any casual "nostalgia chillposting" topic about Pokemon and you'll start seeing normies regressing back to spergling rage "BACK IN MY DAY IT WAS ASH AND MISTY!" or the trying-to-sound-cool "guys i totes didn't watch back then, so did ash ever do misty?" And whenever the show has a cast change they start whining "i totes don't watch anymore but ASH AND MISTY FOREVAR". It comes combined with the "ash never grew up" meme, as if in 20 years they still haven't realized it's like the Simpsons - they keep repeating Ash should be X years old by now and should go back home to marry Misty.

And just point to them that most "hints" they sperg about were a fabrication of the dub and the original version just had less than five minor gags every now and then that the writers never intended to be anything more because once again, Ash is a fucking kid, and they will explode in autistic denial and rage. Noooo, the "hints" are TRUE and HONEST and OFFICIAL and CANON...

With Digimon is kinda similar in the sense that Tai/Sora and Mimi/Joe were fabrications of the dub, but tell people that and they will explode. For all they idolize Japan, they selectively disregard the creators of their animu.

And the worst thing? These people are supposedly normies, or former watchers that now resemble functioning members of society. Just trigger them and they'll turn into the proto-Tumblrinas they were back then, they just sprinkle a bit of "we were the cool kids" rhetoric on it.
 
With Digimon is kinda similar in the sense that Tai/Sora and Mimi/Joe were fabrications of the dub, but tell people that and they will explode. For all they idolize Japan, they selectively disregard the creators of their animu.
There's a remake going on, right? I wonder how disappoint these fans will be if there's no hints because the Japanese keep the base ships going on.
 
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Omegaverse is just an excuse to make hot male characters fuck like dogs. It's even spread to the Japanese fandom, but they at least see it for what it is and don't claim it's "subversive" and "queer."

Omegaverse always felt like the line where furries and Fujoshis meet. I've seen some decent ones but it's just kinda off to mix hardcore primal sex with Uwu soft shoujo bean bois
 
Pokemon shippers have their "nevermet" cult where they go insane masturbating to imaginary relationships between characters that had nothing to do with each other. I would see obnoxious "big name on the forum" users at Serebii with long signatures full of cutesy fanart claiming "official shipper of so and so"... for example two gym leaders from TWO DIFFERENT GENERATIONS, a forgotten character of the day with a recurring character of a different story arc, anime characters with manga characters, etc.

Lol the crackshipping is really huge in the Pokémon fandom. It's one thing for being such a fictional "what-if" that can make for some interesting takes in fan fiction, but it's another to be such a proud shipper of it. The Ash shippers are bad about this, Ash gets shipped with every Pokémon girl, even the ones who've never been in the main anime, and then they get super protective of it. There's an Ash/Hilda fangirl on there who once admitted (before editing her post when she got called out for it) she left reviews on fanfics harassing the writers for not writing a fic about the two or some other rare ship she also supports despite them also being a fan of the ship, too.

Ash/Serena cultists completely miss the joke that it was supposed to be one-sided because Ash is a fucking kid, and when they say "they kissed" it's also the same lunacy, the joke is that the kiss is implied and Ash didn't even register he got a smooch because again, he is a fucking kid.

They also forget that was I believe the third chick to kiss him (although it happened off-screen lel), but they like shrieking about this one because it's "TOTES CANON" and the other two happened in "non-canon" movies.

And just point to them that most "hints" they sperg about were a fabrication of the dub and the original version just had less than five minor gags every now and then that the writers never intended to be anything more because once again, Ash is a fucking kid, and they will explode in autistic denial and rage. Noooo, the "hints" are TRUE and HONEST and OFFICIAL and CANON...

Good times lol. 4KIDS was really adamant about making this pair a "thing", too, for some strange reason. At least with Jessie and James, it's all but explicitly stated that they might actually be a thing (it was at least true for an officially-licensed manga, "Electric Tale of Pikachu"), but Ash and Misty were more like squabbling siblings at times. But they had such strong chemistry together even in the original that I don't think I can totally blame 4KIDS for this. They emphasized it more for the dub, but it matched up really well with the animation.

I don't think it really helps that Misty really is a bit of a flirt/romantic even in the original, fawning over the idea of boys.

With Digimon is kinda similar in the sense that Tai/Sora and Mimi/Joe were fabrications of the dub, but tell people that and they will explode. For all they idolize Japan, they selectively disregard the creators of their animu.

And the worst thing? These people are supposedly normies, or former watchers that now resemble functioning members of society. Just trigger them and they'll turn into the proto-Tumblrinas they were back then, they just sprinkle a bit of "we were the cool kids" rhetoric on it.

There's supposedly an interview with the Japanese actors of Gabumon and Matt where they were shocked/joked that Tai didn't end up with Sora, and then there's "Our War Game" that teased Tai/Sora even in the original. The chemistry between Matt and Sora was that subtle that not even the people working on the show realized Kakudou wanted them together to subvert the expectation of "hero gets the girl". Fucking Joe had more on-screen time with Sora than Matt did.

Joe/Mimi surprises me, actually, 'cause she spends more time with Izzy than with Joe, although Tri showed that she and Joe do get along pretty well, which was nice.

But yeah, you bring up a good point that it's supposedly normies who bring this up. Think it just goes to show the awesome power of the editing wand and its effect on impressionable young minds.
 
Honestly, Digimon Adventure didn't have much room for shipping since yet again the whole cast were fucking kids. So they could get away with making Sora having a thing for Matt really subtle and irrelevant, you know, as things are when you are 10 years old. It was in 02 where they started actually writing for it.

I really get miffed when they do the ship thing with KID CHARACTERS, or take too seriously a "toy ship" joke. It's like ruining the innocence of a kid cartoon. It's why I can't stand CLAMP with the reverse gay pedo shipping already embedded by the writers.
 
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Honestly, Digimon Adventure didn't have much room for shipping since yet again the whole cast were fucking kids. So they could get away with making Sora having a thing for Matt really subtle and irrelevant, you know, as things are when you are 10 years old. It was in 02 where they started actually writing for it.

I really get miffed when they do the ship thing with KID CHARACTERS, or take too seriously a "toy ship" joke. It's like ruining the innocence of a kid cartoon. It's why I can't stand CLAMP with the reverse gay pedo shipping already embedded by the writers.
Personally I don't mind kid shipping as I see shipping as just theorizing who would make good, bad, intresting, fun or cute couple. I don't think it matters what ages the characters are for that. Even if those characters are too young in this point in canon that wouldn't close off future possibilities. Plus they are fictional and fictional kids tend behave way more mature than actual kids of that age so more mature subjects about them don't really bother me.

I doesn't think the problem is shipping kiddos or shipping otherwise anyway. No, the problem is how seriously some fans take it and how annoying they are about their OTPs. This just tends get highlighted in kiddy series where romance just feels out of place. Twilight shipping wars were cringy as hell but when the series is mostly about romance and love triangles, you can't really say that shipping arguments are missing the point.
 
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Small, but still funny. Pathetic Twitterinas still think that Ghibli's When Marnie Was There was queerbaity and moan against the HUGE and SPOILERIFFIC plot twist (hence the 'squares' to cover up the spoiler itself) that rendered the Anna/Marnie ship completely impossible.

I bet that if Marnie was a boy, they'd call him "creep" and "stalker", not some "lesbian goddess"!! :story:

(Also, Marnie and Anna were twelve. These people wail about being called pedos but then they justify and excuse shipping little kids... only as long as they're ~lesbians~ or ~gays~. Way to give more fuel to the gross and unfair "all gay are pedophiles" stereoype, idiots.)


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Bonus: How dare Koppori aka Kiki's sorta love interest be an EBUL MALE!!! baaaaaaaawwwwww!!!!!
(And I bet they wouldn't say the same if Koppori was a girl, because MUH LESBIANSSSSS)
 
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Small, but still funny. Pathetic Twitterinas still think that Ghibli's When Marnie Was There was queerbaity and moan against the HUGE and SPOILERIFFIC plot twist (hence the 'squares' to cover up the spoiler itself) that rendered the Anna/Marnie ship completely impossible.

I bet that if Marnie was a boy, they'd call him "creep" and "stalker", not some "lesbian goddess"!! :story:

(Also, Marnie and Anna were twelve. These people wail about being called pedos but then they justify and excuse shipping little kids... only as long as they're ~lesbians~ or ~gays~. Way to give more fuel to the gross and unfair "all gay are pedophiles" stereoype, idiots.)


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Bonus: How dare Koppori aka Kiki's sorta love interest be an EBUL MALE!!! baaaaaaaawwwwww!!!!!
(And I bet they wouldn't say the same if Koppori was a girl, because MUH LESBIANSSSSS)
Dammit, Kiki and Tombo's friendship was one of the cutest parts of the film. And ffs, she's thirteen, god forbid a girl that age possibly like a boy and be a little tsundere for him. It's not even like they made out or anything, the film left it open. Ponyo and Sosuke were more blatantly romantic and they were FIVE.

...oh, wait. I bet people shit themselves about that one, too. Because HETS.
 
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