Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Ponderous Pillock]

The times I have dealt with PHE have always been awkward. For my work at least they were fairly stingy with samples and wanted someone from the team I'm on to head over there to do research (rather than just sending samples to us, which can be done safely as low-risk delivery, we've done it before in fact!). I wasn't aware that this weird centralization effort is also happening with CoV-2 too, since my lab was apparently working on testing too, but that might be due to us having strong links with the NHS.

It's strange though, surely with all the freed-up labs there'd be a large effort to make use of this space to increase testing capacity? Though it could also be because CoV-2 requires CL3 labs and those aren't anywhere near as common as your typical CL2s and CL2+ labs.

The thing to remember is Public Health England is a gubermint Quango usually filled with the kind of twats that hate anything private sector related as it might let in the door of capitalists or somesuch bollocks. They've got big shiny labs they want to use and rather than treat this as the exceptional circumstance it is, they'll no doubt be worried some bright spark defending his salary and post will try and flog those labs off for "efficiency savings". So they hoard it like a bastard to make themselves the sole, key lynchpin in the whole Corona-chan debacle.

We should be using the enormous private testing capacity the UK has, especially at a time when there's bound to be lest testing required on hair products and any other consumer chemicals shit at the minute ongoing.

The fact we're not, entirely at Duncan Selbie's behest, is the big ass problem right now.

Heck, there's a lab here in Pillockville and I know half their staff is off from the lack of bloody work.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

A Month After Emergency Declaration, Trump's Promises Largely Unfulfilled

On March 13, President Trump promised to mobilize private and public resources to respond to the coronavirus. NPR followed up on each promise and found little action had been taken.

www.npr.org

http://archive.fo/4wGcy

One month ago today, President Trump declared a national emergency.

In a Rose Garden address, flanked by leaders from giant retailers and medical testing companies, he promised a mobilization of public and private resources to attack the coronavirus.
"We've been working very hard on this. We've made tremendous progress," Trump said. "When you compare what we've done to other areas of the world, it's pretty incredible."

But few of the promises made that day have come to pass.

NPR's Investigations Team dug into each of the claims made from the podium that day. And rather than a sweeping national campaign of screening, drive-through sample collection and lab testing, it found a smattering of small pilot projects and aborted efforts.

 

[Fareal]

THE SPEDS HAVE BEEN FREED, I REPEAT, THE SPEDS ARE NOW FREE

UK coronavirus rules relaxed for people with autism and learning disabilities

Policy updated after lawyers challenge ‘discriminatory’ lockdown measures

www.theguardian.com

”we need to lock down the country to prevent the spread of Covid19”
”wait boss what about the spastics”
”oh good thinking, let the windowlickers loose, their grasp of hygiene and self care is 100%”

 

[HumanHive]

The thing to remember is Public Health England is a gubermint Quango usually filled with the kind of twats that hate anything private sector related as it might let in the door of capitalists or somesuch bollocks. They've got big shiny labs they want to use and rather than treat this as the exceptional circumstance it is, they'll no doubt be worried some bright spark defending his salary and post will try and flog those labs off for "efficiency savings". So they hoard it like a bastard to make themselves the sole, key lynchpin in the whole Corona-chan debacle.

We should be using the enormous private testing capacity the UK has, especially at a time when there's bound to be lest testing required on hair products and any other consumer chemicals shit at the minute ongoing.

The fact we're not, entirely at Duncan Selbie's behest, is the big ass problem right now.

Heck, there's a lab here in Pillockville and I know half their staff is off from the lack of bloody work.

How the British talk about the NHS reminds me so much of cultish stockholm syndrome. It was eyerolling before, now it is just creepy.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

How the British talk about the NHS reminds me so much of cultish stockholm syndrome. It
was eyerolling before, now it is just creepy.

Thankfully I'm not talking of the saintly NHS and its sterling work during this crisis. Mostly because both me and my father rely on it quite a lot at the minute. Aside from media muck raking with its anonymous doctors whispering about PPE shortages in unspecified NHS Trusts, the NHS is coping incredibly well.

I'm talking about a cancerous vestigial thing that's full of the kinds of idiots you promote just to get them away from most of the frontline issues to pull big shiny levers that don't tend to do anything... except during a crisis.

Though I should note, the high capacity NHS Nightingale Hospital that was rushed to be built in Lahndan... is currently housing 19 patients out of its 4,000 beds.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

How the British talk about the NHS reminds me so much of cultish stockholm syndrome. It
was eyerolling before, now it is just creepy.

The NHS must be perfect, lad! When the BBC mentions it they always describe it is a 'much loved national institution'. The only other times they use that expression are for the BBC itself. And for Jimmy Savile, up to the point that he died and the truth about him came out. And then, like Iraqis after the fall of Saddam Hussein, his approval rating went from 100% to 0% in an instant among BBC staff.

I'm pretty sure if very well paid BBC journalists tell us the NHS is perfect and just needs more money from the government, much like the BBC itself, they're not being in any way disingenuous or self-serving.

 

[Fareal]

Thankfully I'm not talking of the saintly NHS and its sterling work during this crisis. Mostly because both me and my father rely on it quite a lot at the minute. Aside from media muck raking with its anonymous doctors whispering about PPE shortages in unspecified NHS Trusts, the NHS is coping incredibly well.

I'm talking about a cancerous vestigial thing that's full of the kinds of idiots you promote just to get them away from most of the frontline issues to pull big shiny levers that don't tend to do anything... except during a crisis.

Though I should note, the high capacity NHS Nightingale Hospital that was rushed to be built in Lahndan... is currently housing 19 patients out of its 4,000 beds.

I have been advised that the current planning is that the Nightingale units shouldn’t actually need to be used if the peak demand can be held at the currently predicted level. The Nightingale units are our beds of last resort if the increased hospital capacity still isn’t enough.

Or, as a direct quote: “if you see the Louisa Jordan filling up, you know we’re fucked”

(Also, if you meet most doctors who end up in public health work, you will soon see why their colleagues thought fit to shunt them there. Jason Leitch is a fucking dentist for Christ sakes and Gregor Smith’s GP partners eased him out of his partnership and into ‘central management’ a decade ago. When you can neither pull teeth nor prescribe amoxicillin with any great skill, management of a major pandemic is probably too big of an ask for you)

 

[No_one]

UK Police harass man for reporting mosques for not following social distancing rules:

Police State Britain – the monolog – UK Preppers Radio Network

archived 13 Apr 2020 17:35:18 UTC

archive.vn

Spoiler: Mirror

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edit: the whole video is not the guy at the beginning giving a blow by blow account of everything, be patient. I initially thought it was and was about to skip it. It's worth the watch.

Seems like Muslims in the UK want do the same thing as those in the old country.

Authorities in all provinces had officially restricted congregations in mosques, including for Friday prayers, to five people or less since the past two weeks. However, several instances of violation of government orders, and confrontation with police trying to enforce these orders, have been reported since then. (...)
Pir Azizur Rehman Hazarvi added, “The closure of mosques, shutting down Friday prayers and Taraweeh is unacceptable to the countrymen.”

He insisted that in order to get rid of the virus, it was imperative to seek forgiveness from Allah and increase the populace in mosques.
Furthermore, government leaders should also abide by religious norms and seek forgiveness, the clerics said.

What could go wrong?

 

[evrae]

The thing to remember is Public Health England is a gubermint Quango usually filled with the kind of twats that hate anything private sector related as it might let in the door of capitalists or somesuch bollocks. They've got big shiny labs they want to use and rather than treat this as the exceptional circumstance it is, they'll no doubt be worried some bright spark defending his salary and post will try and flog those labs off for "efficiency savings". So they hoard it like a bastard to make themselves the sole, key lynchpin in the whole Corona-chan debacle.

We should be using the enormous private testing capacity the UK has, especially at a time when there's bound to be lest testing required on hair products and any other consumer chemicals shit at the minute ongoing.

The fact we're not, entirely at Duncan Selbie's behest, is the big ass problem right now.

Heck, there's a lab here in Pillockville and I know half their staff is off from the lack of bloody work.

Yeah, most of the staff at my lab is off because the place went into lockdown ages ago. We're mostly just spending the time doing paper writing and the informatics side of things if possible and I'm pretty sure a huge chunk of us signed up for the volunteer effort to do CoV-2 research. I just want to get back to work because I'm bored out of my fucking mind and I'm now starting to look like a hobo.

 

[AltisticRight]

Can't visit the museum due to Coronachan? Don't worry, there's official ones in Animal Crossing.

Now they need to diversify and make more museums.

How does Buzzfeed slap these keywords together?

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Man I'm about done with this quarantine shit. Everyone is a giant faggot about it and I'm sick of seeing re-tarded shit on the internet where police are knocking down doors and arresting people for existing.

Just fucking shoot me or let me melt from the plague already.

 

[Not Really Here]

Man I'm about done with this quarantine shit. Everyone is a giant faggot about it and I'm sick of seeing re-tarded shit on the internet where police are knocking down doors and arresting people for existing.

Just fucking shoot me or let me melt from the plague already.

I'm ready to move on to the President declaring normality, red states going back to normal, and everyone else freaking out and cracking down harder.

 

[jje100010001]

Thankfully I'm not talking of the saintly NHS and its sterling work during this crisis. Mostly because both me and my father rely on it quite a lot at the minute. Aside from media muck raking with its anonymous doctors whispering about PPE shortages in unspecified NHS Trusts, the NHS is coping incredibly well.

I'm talking about a cancerous vestigial thing that's full of the kinds of idiots you promote just to get them away from most of the frontline issues to pull big shiny levers that don't tend to do anything... except during a crisis.

Though I should note, the high capacity NHS Nightingale Hospital that was rushed to be built in Lahndan... is currently housing 19 patients out of its 4,000 beds.

The NHS must be perfect, lad! When the BBC mentions it they always describe it is a 'much loved national institution'. The only other times they use that expression are for the BBC itself. And for Jimmy Savile, up to the point that he died and the truth about him came out. And then, like Iraqis after the fall of Saddam Hussein, his approval rating went from 100% to 0% in an instant among BBC staff.

I'm pretty sure if very well paid BBC journalists tell us the NHS is perfect and just needs more money from the government, much like the BBC itself, they're not being in any way disingenuous or self-serving.

Seems like some variant of Scientism vs actual science. Does it have an actual term?

Stuff like venerating anyone who can gatekeep behind technical vocabulary (the Tyson/Nye gang or the Coronavirus experts, Fauci until yesterday) and treating all data as infallible memes (the Imperial College predictions, #flattenthecurve)- all while ignoring the fundamental fact that science is never settled, and that these professionals/institutions can have their own biases and flaws as well.

As a result, the frontline stuff gets mixed together with everything else so that it becomes hard to criticise elements without being accused of being unsupportive of the whole thing.

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

Keep in mind that these retardêd monkeys believe that evil white colonizers are holding them back. This is an "anatomy" graduate:

https://archive.vn/fZoVA

 

[Vecr]

Keep in mind that these retardêd monkeys believe it's evil white colonizers are holding them back. This is an "anatomy" graduate:

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> find it hard to breathe

Yeah, that's how they works.

 

[Billy_Sama]

Cannibalism has happened during Chinese famines, especially the Great Famine of 1958-62. Rather widespread.

I would be surprised if China never had a bout of cannibalism in one 100 year period. There was recorded incident during the Three Kingdom period.

Cheng Yu - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Otterly]

How the British talk about the NHS reminds me so much of cultish stockholm syndrome. It
was eyerolling before, now it is just creepy.

It’s a massive, sprawling thing. Some bits of it are truly incredible - world leading research and amazing pioneering stuff. Some of the kids stuff like great ormond street, are amazing. Some bits of it are really valuable and less glamorous (like the little cottage hospital my late departed Nan was nursed at - cheerful staff, underpaid and overworked and genuinely caring.)
Some bits of it are absolutely fucking dire. Maternity care is often appalling - Women chucked on Group wards, left with no pain relief or just paracetamol after traumatic births or sections, Random male partners wandering around making a nuisance of themselves. Mental health is absolutely shit and has been hollowed out.
The key point is that nobody gets bankrupted if they get cancer or gets in a car wreck. That is a big thing, and we are grateful for it. The NHS as a whole is Ok. Bits of it need gutting and starting again, there are far too many meddlers and managers, and a whole layer of politics and management that could vanish overnight and No one would see the difference. There’s too much pressure on emergency because too much gets routed through there. Not enough out of hours/minor injuries units to take the pressure off emergency. GP care needs a shakeup.
It’s a mixed bag, but it’s alright.

 

[simulated goat]

Keep in mind that these retardêd monkeys believe that evil white colonizers are holding them back. This is an "anatomy" graduate:

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Geesus, and I thought the crocheted one I saw on a hippie girl was impractical. Neither would work and both would be a nightmare with all those crannies and crevasses to trap and hold viruses safely away from any attempt at disinfecting these morons might conceive of performing.

 

[Not Really Here]

Keep in mind that these retardêd monkeys believe that evil white colonizers are holding them back. This is an "anatomy" graduate:

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Enjoy this one

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The video

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

GP care needs a shakeup.

I agree with this, the problem there is a quirk of how the NHS was nationalised. They took a load of hospitals etc and nationalised them, the problem was GPs at the time were just way too powerful and remained independent.

That's the thing to note in the UK. The gatekeepers to the rest of the system are basically private contractors paid (very handsomely) by the state.

The other factor is a lot of the new age GPs are quitting in their late 30s and 40s and taking early retirement because they're on £120k+ a year and a lot of them live surprisingly frugally.

Could probably do with a change there, but GP surgeries are efficient and pretty good for the most part. The issue at present is the rate of loss.