SCP Foundation - Creepypasta with roid rage - now ITT: SCP fans

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Just wanted to throw my hat into the ring with my personal experience with SCP staff.
I'm not going to hide my experience, so those of you with some background knowledge of the community can probably piecemeal together who I am.

I pissed off a pretty well known writer because I told them that "making memes isn't harassment", to which they did not like. Many disagreements and such later, they send me a few threats and they're on their way. Wouldn't you know it, a month or so later and I make it into their article as a character who is using their power in the organization to persecute LGBT people, who ultimately dies by some vigilante SCP justice. They reference my username almost one to one, so I go ahead and talk to SCP staff, because, I wasn't aware that the site was used for thinly veiled hit-pieces on disliked users.

Wouldn't you know it, I report the damn think to Soulless, and instead of assuring me that it would be looked into and giving me some modicum of separation between the person who had sent me threats, which had now turned into fantasy death threats, they don't believe me, and they say they're going to ask for the writers opinion, and include that in the 05 thread. In the writing sphere, I'm not nearly as important as the person who had caricatured me into a corrupt LGBT hating official, so they thought it prudent to include the harassers point of view on the topic. Keep in mind, I've never fucking posted on the SCP-WIKI site once for this reason.

It was brought up to SCP staff that the writer in question is randomly putting peoples names that they don't like, taking potshots through their own article. Of course, the first person to reply is Bright, who says "I've done that before" as if that makes it a good thing. Though the tide eventually changed to "we should probably tell writers not to use the site as a platform to take shots from", SCP staff ended up doing nothing, and you can still find my name on the article today.

lol

Any chance you can link the article? I love to read it

It's this one, isn't it?

SCP-4493 - SCP Foundation

www.scp-wiki.net

God, I'll read the SCP article, it is as bad as sounds. The SCP itself is pretty mediocre GAW shit, however the addendum is what makes it bad, especially when one of the officer's names references another user.

tbh the comments are pretty bad as well


Also someone pointed the attack piece thinly disguised as addendum:


Of course, kinch tries to defend it


Apparently Almarduk isn't only one annoyed by this shit.

Spoiler: SticksNTricks

SCP 4493 represents everything wrong with the SCP Foundation. It is an unnecessarily insipidly droll piece of political commentary that fails to hook the readers in a truly engaging piece when the piece does nothing more than exploit a movement and its people in the same exact fashion as corporations do. Only, instead of exploiting it for monetary value, the author's exploitation of the month serves to guarantee upvotes based solely upon the political notions it revolves around.

The piece fails to establish any scientifically charged descriptions and arguments in regards to this phenomenon, which isn't even a phenomenon to begin with. Can't exactly call it an anomaly if it doesn't exhibit any sort of unusual or anomalous properties that would justify this relatively unnecessary keter class entity. Let us not forget that it takes potshots at users whom the author hasn't even been subtle about, I.E. N. Krum, makes this piece comes across as childish and ill-mannered. Though it is truly a hilarious piece, but for all the wrong reasons, it is only by how painfully obvious this was fueled not by passion or the strive to write a good piece, but anger and a misguided sense of justice that comes across as unrealistic and unreasonable.

It lacks any kind of imaginative or intuitive creative instances that sets it apart from reality. I dare say it's just reality albeit skewered in a way that it tries to invoke emotion rather than critical thinking. The tone is completely off the mark and for every criticism for each new or old user desperately vying to follow the old formula that's become stagnant and restrictive that to have the administration condone 4493's existence says a lot about what their priorities are and where they place them at. It is uninspiring, hypocritical, exploitative and mean spirited.

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[Don Yagon]

What a wild ride of a thread it is. SCP is one of the web projects I legitimately enjoy to read from time to time, and seeing it being clogged by all sorts of trannies is sad. Thankfully, such kind of discourse seems to be much less prominent in international branches, at least in Russian one. But who knows if, or rather when it's going to change too.

 

[vdnb6]

Just wanted to throw my hat into the ring with my personal experience with SCP staff.
I'm not going to hide my experience, so those of you with some background knowledge of the community can probably piecemeal together who I am.

I pissed off a pretty well known writer because I told them that "making memes isn't harassment", to which they did not like. Many disagreements and such later, they send me a few threats and they're on their way. Wouldn't you know it, a month or so later and I make it into their article as a character who is using their power in the organization to persecute LGBT people, who ultimately dies by some vigilante SCP justice. They reference my username almost one to one, so I go ahead and talk to SCP staff, because, I wasn't aware that the site was used for thinly veiled hit-pieces on disliked users.

Wouldn't you know it, I report the damn thing to Soulless, and instead of assuring me that it would be looked into and giving me some modicum of separation between the person who had sent me threats, which had now turned into fantasy death threats, they don't believe me, and they say they're going to ask for the writers opinion, and include that in the 05 thread. In the writing sphere, I'm not nearly as important as the person who had caricatured me into a corrupt LGBT hating official, so they thought it prudent to include the harassers point of view on the topic. Keep in mind, I've never fucking posted on the SCP-WIKI site once for this reason.

It was brought up to SCP staff that the writer in question is randomly putting peoples names that they don't like, taking potshots through their own article. Of course, the first person to reply is Bright, who says "I've done that before" as if that makes it a good thing. Though the tide eventually changed to "we should probably tell writers not to use the site as a platform to take shots from", SCP staff ended up doing nothing, and you can still find my name on the article today.

lol

Blairin, it’s pretty obvious that you’re the person who made this post. While I appreciate your contribution to the thread, almost a week ago you were shitting on it in your server. We’re neither a personal army nor here to validate you. It seems like you’re only here to soak up sympathy points now that someone has dropped the name of an admin you dislike.

Spoiler: Screenshots

 

[HIVidaBoheme]

Blairin, it’s pretty obvious that you’re the person who made this post. While I appreciate your contribution to the thread, almost a week ago you were shitting on it in your server. We’re neither a personal army nor here to validate you. It seems like you’re only here to soak up sympathy points now that someone has dropped the name of an admin you dislike.

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Lmao what a retard. Months since this article was made and he's still butthurt about it!

 

[Uzbeki]

Blairin, it’s pretty obvious that you’re the person who made this post. While I appreciate your contribution to the thread, almost a week ago you were shitting on it in your server. We’re neither a personal army nor here to validate you. It seems like you’re only here to soak up sympathy points now that someone has dropped the name of an admin you dislike.

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Yup, I was the one who made the post and I do call you out on your retardation when you don't understand basic facets of writing. Do you expect me to constantly suck the dick of KiwiFarms like its some sort of sacred site of information that you can't criticize? I didn't expect anything to occur, like KiwiFarms can do anything special, or even is going to do anything. And for the record, I hate all the SCP admins.

I don't need sympathy, least of all from here. I just brought my goldfish to show and tell.

And seriously Boheme. I know you're obsessed with RPC, but please, stop bringing it up in every thread and then getting angry its being talked about.

 

[Adamska]

Basic facets of writing my ass, the main critiques were it was like pulling fucking teeth to get people to look at your work, meaning it took forever to get anything done unless you were a part of the shitty elite clique that formed from work not their own, which means you didn't even read the thread you're now PA'ing in.

Also lol at you faggots stealing /x/ content and surviving on legacy people who can write for your relevance.

 

[Uzbeki]

Basic facets of writing my ass, the main critiques were it was like pulling fucking teeth to get people to look at your work, meaning it took forever to get anything done unless you were a part of the shitty elite clique that formed from work not their own, which means you didn't even read the thread you're now PA'ing in.

Also lol at you faggots stealing /x/ content and surviving on legacy people who can write for your relevance.

Now this just seems to be a misunderstanding of how crit works on SCP and RPC. Personally, as an admin of RPC, which, while self admitted, doesn't get even a quarter as many articles as SCP a month, we usually do get as many articles as we have days in a month per month. And I can tell you, it's a teeth pulling process even for me to get criticism. And I can tell you from conversations with Von Pincier, it was similarly difficult for him when he was at SCP too.

You'd think being higher up the chain would give you an easier time running around getting criticism, but it is similarly difficult in every single part of the community. In some cabal, it doesn't get easier, you still have to go through the annoying process of crit for crit or spamming your article until someone crits it, but it just gives you all those people who would usually crit in one place who can give you genuine help with your article and improve your writing. Rather than having to go through the slow forum or just hope someone will reply.

I'd like to continue this conversation and talk more about the internal, autistic workings of the anomalous writing community, but I don't the people who keep this thread open 24/7 like me too much. I made no effort to hide who I was, and yet it was treated like a "gotcha".

 

[vdnb6]

Now this just seems to be a misunderstanding of how crit works on SCP and RPC. Personally, as an admin of RPC, which, while self admitted, doesn't get even a quarter as many articles as SCP a month, we usually do get as many articles as we have days in a month per month. And I can tell you, it's a teeth pulling process even for me to get criticism. And I can tell you from conversations with Von Pincier, it was similarly difficult for him when he was at SCP too.

You'd think being higher up the chain would give you an easier time running around getting criticism, but it is similarly difficult in every single part of the community. In some cabal, it doesn't get easier, you still have to go through the annoying process of crit for crit or spamming your article until someone crits it, but it just gives you all those people who would usually crit in one place who can give you genuine help with your article and improve your writing. Rather than having to go through the slow forum or just hope someone will reply.

I'd like to continue this conversation and talk more about the internal, autistic workings of the anomalous writing community, but I don't the people who keep this thread open 24/7 like me too much. I made no effort to hide who I was, and yet it was treated like a "gotcha".

Sour grapes. I wasn’t treating it like a “gotcha”, I was calling you out for blatantly trying to use this thread for pity points. I have no idea how you can sperg out like this and claim to be less exceptional than anyone else here. While I do think your inclusion in SCP-4493 was immature, you’re delusional if you think it was a death threat in any capacity. Surely the almighty leader of RPC has better things to do than whine about people he has old drama with in a thread full of “idiots.”

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

This thread perfectly illustrates why SCP Foundation fails.

Who knew that collaboration run writing site could have so much drama

 

[AnOminous]

This thread perfectly illustrates why SCP Foundation fails.

Who knew that collaboration run writing site could have so much drama

SCP was best when it was some thinly thematically connected creepypastas from /x/

The problem with anything wiki-like is it soon attracts dysfunctional sociopaths more interested in maintaining their own personal autistic little empires than the shared project. Or, even worse, to push some insane political agenda, like the troon invasion. It isn't long before the bad drives out the good and the project dies.

 

[alanshaffer3293]

I agree. As soon as SCP started to form into a more coherent and connected community around late 2008/early 2009, the only thing achieved was handing over control of the project to a bunch of degenerate sex-freak demagogues like Dr. Bright

I dont think this was inevitable though. Much like Hollywood, SCP only became this way after years of turning a blind eye to nepotism, abuse, and degenerate culture, which eventually peaked at the absolute cesspool we have today.

 

[HorseFucker]

I agree. As soon as SCP started to form into a more coherent and connected community around late 2008/early 2009, the only thing achieved was handing over control of the project to a bunch of degenerate sex-freak demagogues like Dr. Bright

I dont think this was inevitable though. Much like Hollywood, SCP only became this way after years of turning a blind eye to nepotism, abuse, and degenerate culture, which eventually peaked at the absolute cesspool we have today.

Yeah. I made a comparison just like that months ago and its still scary how relevant it is to day.

SCP was best when it was some thinly thematically connected creepypastas from /x/

The problem with anything wiki-like is it soon attracts dysfunctional sociopaths more interested in maintaining their own personal autistic little empires than the shared project. Or, even worse, to push some insane political agenda, like the troon invasion. It isn't long before the bad drives out the good and the project dies.

Its been on a very slow decline. It just gets its moments where they're rising upwards at times. One of the users on RPC mentioned how that's only because there are large enough fanbases off the site like reddit who are blissfully ignorant of the toxic culture in SCP.

 

[Baubius]

RPC writer here. Made an account to tell Blairin to stop being a faggot.

 

[ToS]

Who knew that collaboration run writing site could have so much drama

... there are large enough fanbases off the site like reddit who are blissfully ignorant of the toxic culture in SCP.

As someone who got into the site real late in its development and from a distant satellite community, I was absolutely blindsided by how ridiculous its actual motives and priorities are. The toxic culture champions toxic people and vice versa.

 

[Baubius]

As someone who got into the site real late in its development and from a distant satellite community, I was absolutely blindsided by how ridiculous its actual motives and priorities are. The toxic culture champions toxic people and vice versa.

You should read about #site12. It's been a favorite blackpill for SCPD alts on the RPC discord for months now.

 

[vdnb6]

You should read about #site12. It's been a favorite blackpill for SCPD alts on the RPC discord for months now.

Site12 isn’t really a blackpill. It’s a well known NSFW chat that a ton of different users have joined in the past due to the loose standards of entry. What I think more people need to realize is that sexual abuse / harassment is very common in that side of the fandom and many of the “good people” who put on a kind face in public can be real vicious in private. That and the fact that many people in the SCP community are... not very good about internet safety, which only creates more opportunities for intelligent predators. I know that “listen to victims” is a phrase with a lot of stigma attached to it, but in all seriousness the cliques need to stop covering up for their friends when the evidence and testimonies are right in front of them.

 

[kiwi-identified cow]

Someone told me about this today and it seemed worth mentioning. Back in November, the author scpcnrp edited his author page (archive) to include a statement that has been described by some as an "anti-SCP manifesto." Now staff seem to be trying to delete the page, through their typical methods of beating around the bush and fabricating some bullshit policy discussion to make whatever shady goal appear legitimate.

Spoiler

His statement is long, so here's the part that I think is most relevant to the staff topic:



The comment section saw a whole lot of pro-wiki circlejerking before being shut down by staff. One person in the thread seemed to have fallen for the ol' "this happens with any art community" approach. Competition is definitely normal in media, yeah, but should a small-time nonprofit writing site with a minimum age of 15 to join it be having sex scandals the same way Hollywood does? Pretending the place suffers only from mundane problems won't solve the worst and most pervasive problems.

(First page of comments archived here.)

So, the author page is currently rated below -30. Author pages have always been exempt from normal deletion rules, but after the comments section saw the new action (archive), staff all of a sudden started debating whether that exemption should be removed. As of now, this is the most recent comment in the still-ongoing discussion:



05 thread / archive (archiving doesn't do well with multiple 'pages' of comments in Wikidot threads, I've noticed, so I also attached long screenshots of the first two pages)

This comment on the first page is especially ridiculous. Roget rubbing it in about 'abusing privilege' as if that's not his favorite pastime as an administrator:

He edited it this afternoon to say the below instead. So I guess constructing an entire discussion to change a preexisting policy in order to get rid of one page that offends staff too much is not 'silencing dissent' since y'all decided to do it through backhanded bureaucratic process, Roget? I've noticed over the years that staff have a disingenuous trend of changing their rules to benefit them and then acting on the new rules, i.e. this situation, changing the definition of 'harassment' so that they can shortly thereafter ban someone for activities that were not previously considered harassment, etc.

I guess we'll see where their discussion goes, but it's looking like scpcnrp's author page might get deleted. At this point I genuinely don't understand what the holdup is with reforming staff and addressing all the previously discussed corruption; I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be an "anti-wiki manifesto" in the first place if staff weren't corrupt. I guess I may be naive for still holding onto the hope that Mann somehow isn't one of the bad ones, given that all of them have tied their tails together anyway.

 

[HorseFucker]

Ah yes! More wordplay to cleverly conceal criticism and cover up their corruption and conceive an excuse to conduct a not-so-carefully constructed excuse to delete something they don't like.

k

Never change SCP.

 

[Baubius]

SCPCNRP's manifesto is a favorite of mine. Shame the Inner Circle's wacking it. Archiving. Also lol at the guy who replied "k" to the janny, real war hero right there.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

Looking back at SCP history, and judging from a youtube summary, if I get this correctly the clique only got to power because they had the excuse of "quality control".

To be fair they did seem to have weeded out a lot of bad stuff. But, nowadays, why do they even need them? Think about it, as long as you are part of the clique you can make SCPs that are literally Tumblr/ furry self-inserts, Mary Sues, and revenge fics.

Why do they need them again?

I feel bad for the amazing writers that gave the site a name, but SCP proves once again the sad truth that the wiki model and creative commons just favors a clique on top and leeches over the hard work of everyone below.

Which is not as bad if you're Wikipedia because that's actually useful and it isn't just a small niche ... but I do feel a lot of people there could've easily made a name of themselves elsewhere gave up control of their creations to a group of self-centered assholes.