Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[NoWords]

Having also read Helen's book, when Chloe has alluded to having burns featured in her 'trauma' it made me think that she too has read it and chose to steal that as a detail to make her more believable/pityworthy. She seems bright so I don't doubt that she does research into DID.

She is dim enough to say she has burn trauma and yet wears clothing that reveals, very blantaly, that she has zero burning scars. I wouldn't label her bright.

 

[AmbiTron]

I think faking DID must be the easiest thing in the world when you think about it. These mental health advocate (?) communities won't be asking you about your trauma because that's a touchy subject, you will never have to share your trauma because of this and you always have the amnesia walls to back up your claims if you have to share some of it, saying you don't remember your non-existent trauma.

Also, people will think your 3000 year-old Japanese half robot-half vampire alter with a Skyrim NPC name is valid and attack anyone who raises doubt so... really, you don't have to try so hard. Maybe I should do it if it's going to pay my bills.

I'm very sure I could make a twitter/youtube/whatever right now, claim to have twenty to fifty people in my head while pulling backstories out of my ass or just saying they're real people or well-known fictional characters and the people who follow Chloe would both believe me and defend my lies.

 

[NoWords]

I'm very sure I could make a twitter/youtube/whatever right now, claim to have twenty to fifty people in my head while pulling backstories out of my ass or just saying they're real people or well-known fictional characters and the people who follow Chloe would both believe me and defend my lies.

Agree. It requires very little consistency. You can literally make this up as you go and people will follow and believe.

 

[rot]

I'm pretty late to the party, but to me, her deleting her Tumblr is incredibly suspicious. A while back, I had a scroll through her Tumblr archive and there were essentially no posts about DID prior to 2016, so you'll just have to take my word on that.
From what I remember, her "liked posts" were not public.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

I'm pretty late to the party, but to me, her deleting her Tumblr is incredibly suspicious. A while back, I had a scroll through her Tumblr archive and there were essentially no posts about DID prior to 2016, so you'll just have to take my word on that.
From what I remember, her "liked posts" were not public.

I don’t think she had anything to hide on it that we didn’t already find (sugar baby stuff), I think she just wants some privacy, which is hard to ask for when you willingly flung yourself in front of hundreds of thousands of people

 

[heterotic]

We LIVE IN A SOCIETY where young women pretending to be deeply traumatized, mentally ill and unstable is a pathway to moral authority, insulation from responsibility and financial gain.

Men, too.

He’s liked more than that apparently. Seems like he’s caught on and is researching DID malingering and sexual abuse. He’s also following Dr Grande.

He’s probably already in thread.

Spoiler: YouTube Favorites

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if you look through his reddit history, he seems to collect mentally ill friends

 

[Pontiac Dumpsterfire]

Off topic but can we talk about how fucking dumb the SaniTea Podcast is? Dumb doesn’t even come close to describing it. I’ve been really bothered by it for a long time. I know the nature of podcasts is that there is often a balance between personalities and experts weighing in on topics which make them interesting but the way the SaniTea Podcast is structured, Chloe seems to treat herself like the “expert” in literally every realm of mental health where Nan seems to just talk out of their ass in the annoying voice of whatever alter is fronting. And they just have a really stanky, dead end chemistry.

I’m not only bothered by it because it’s dumb as fuck. I think it’s also toxic and dangerous that these people who have no formal education in psychology feel so strongly that they are qualified to speak on these topics that they made a whole podcast. Classic narcissists.

Probably the most bothersome podcast of all is when they choose to speak on addiction. I know Nan claims to have a history with alcohol and in the video where they introduced their alcoholic construction worker alter, they expressed that the “body couldn’t tolerate any more alcohol”. I’m still not sure if this is factual or just another power move for gains in the oppression olympics.

In the podcast, Chloe tries to join in on the oppression gains by saying she has no experience with a conventional addiction like alcohol or drugs, but has been told she has “addictions” which I assume perhaps a therapist told her that an obsession with calories or food could be an addiction. She also tries to explain that the fact that she got blackout drunk a couple times during "Freshers Week" at her university is comparable to someone struggling with rock-bottom alcohol addiction.

Throughout the video you can tell that neither of them know enough about addiction to be discussing or giving advice on it. It’s so cringey. Nan talks and Chloe agrees with everything she says and occasionally throws in words like “dopamine”. This is where all of this misinformation borders on dangerous.

SaniTea Podcast: Addictions

ETA
I'm now convinced that the SaniTea Podcast is just a calculated scheme to promote Better Help. Cha Ching!

 

[NoWords]

In the podcast, Chloe tries to join in on the oppression gains by saying she has no experience with a conventional addiction like alcohol or drugs, but has been told she has “addictions”

Of course she said that, something new she can claim to have wrong with her for her cult followers. Fitting.

 

[Carlos the Scientist]

Off topic but can we talk about how fucking dumb the SaniTea Podcast is? Dumb doesn’t even come close to describing it. I’ve been really bothered by this podcast for a long time. I know the nature of podcasts is that there is often a balance between personalities and experts weighing in on topics which make them interesting but the way the SaniTea Podcast is structured, Chloe seems to treat herself like the “expert” in literally every realm of mental health where Nan seems to just talk out of their ass in the annoying voice of whatever alter is fronting. And they just seem to have a really stanky, dead end chemistry.

I’m not only bothered by it because it’s dumb as fuck. I think it’s also toxic and dangerous that these people who have no formal education in psychology feel so strongly that they are qualified to speak on these topics that they made a whole podcast. Classic narcissists.

Probably the most bothersome podcast of all is when they choose to speak on addiction. I know Nan claims to have a history with alcohol and in the video where she introduced her alcoholic construction worker alter, she expressed that the “body couldn’t tolerate any more alcohol”. I’m still not sure if this is factual or just another power move for gains in the oppression olympics.

In the podcast, Chloe tries to join in on the oppression gains by saying she has no experience with a conventional addiction like alcohol or drugs, but has been told she has “addictions” which I assume perhaps a therapist told her that an obsession with calories or food could be an addiction.

Throughout the video you can tell that neither of them know enough about addiction to be discussing or giving advice on it. It’s so cringey. Nan talks and Chloe agrees with everything she says and occasionally throws in words like “dopamine”. This is where all of this misinformation borders on dangerous.

SaniTea Podcast Addictions

God, yes, it's not education in the slightest. There's lots of distractions, it's very very slow to start. and they evidently haven't bothered educating themselves on any of the disorders that they talk about past the bare minimum. I remember them saying that BPD wasn't really a personality disorder, or barely qualified as a personality disorder, or something like that. Just a lot of very bold statements that aren't backed up.

Of course she said that, something new she can claim to have wrong with her for her cult followers. Fitting.

Anotehr cryptic statement for her audience to speculate about, but she probably won't reveal any more details because it's 'deeply personal' or something like that.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

I’m not only bothered by it because it’s dumb as fuck. I think it’s also toxic and dangerous that these people who have no formal education in psychology feel so strongly that they are qualified to speak on these topics that they made a whole podcast. Classic narcissists.

what are you talking about? Chloe has 2 months of a psych undergrad degree

 

[themostdefectivedetective]

She is dim enough to say she has burn trauma and yet wears clothing that reveals, very blantaly, that she has zero burning scars. I wouldn't label her bright.

I should have said, Helen/Alice's burns were on her feet.

Kinda handy to be somewhere out of view 99% of the time, huh Chloe?

 

[knightlautrec]

Okay so I read through all (then) 130 pages, even stayed up till 8 am to do it, passed out and came back on to make an account.

I was subscribed to DissociaDID simply because I assumed DID was a real disorder and I was curious about it. She also looked like one of the more relatively sane ones in her community (There is a guy who has alters that are almost all either 1000 years old Skyrim characters or "ageless" vampires and I shit you not, that's almost how all his alters identify. Their Youtube is Acrylic And Aether if anyone wants to open those can of worms.) even with the whole click-baity "Switch Caught On Camera" videos she has on. Reading through all this I came to the conclusion that either she genuinely believes she has DID so she makes up symptoms or she is a con-artist. Either way, pretty fun to see how things progress.

After watching the (thankfully archived - because who would want to miss that?) Disney World video, I am completely grossed out. See, I always thought Nan was weird and off-putting so I couldn't endure watching their videos for more than a minute but this whole thing exceeded all my expectations. First of all, if you are going to act like fucking five-year olds and still make out, perhaps don't go to a place full of actual children knowing you will be "triggered" to age-slide or turn into a little or what-ever-the-fuck they said was happening. I am just shocked to see Chloe cry because her PTSD was triggered. Like, what? What the hell is this girl's trauma? I was genuinely confused to see her cry because it looked believable. Did she delude herself so much to think she actually has this disorder and created traumas in her head that actually make her get triggered by stuff like this? I am so fucking lost. In one video she has "Kyle" mimicking Chloe (her accent and mannerisms) to a T because he had "so much practice" and in another one you have two adults who have absolutely no control over how they are acting inside a theme park surrounded by children and (I assume) horrified parents.

Also (since there are 132 pages and I don't remember every single post on here) has anyone mentioned how quickly she switches in some of her videos? In this FORCED PERSONALITY SWITCH CAUGHT ON CAMERA | Positive Triggers | Dissociative Identity Disorder video at 0:05 mark right after she says she likes her highlighter her bubbly alter Nadia comes out to say "Boy, yes!" and she switches back to Chloe. Hello? What the fuck? I thought this even when I first watched it, it is just so fucking fake in the sense that this woman edited her video and while editing it she saw her voice was a bit more high pitched than normal and she looked hyped for a millisecond so she came to the conclusion that she should edit the "Nadia" text over the video to make sure everyone knows that must be her bubbly alter Nadia coming in to say hi because we know Chloe doesn't talk like that! Are you telling me that her highlighter is a positive trigger for Nadia to come out (ONLY to say BOYY YASSS) and then switch back? Why isn't anyone in the comments asking her about this?

That video just shows me how fake this is. This is just role-playing at it's lowest form. Like, even if someone entered a fugue state and had another 'personality' come through why would they have these complex backstory identities and come from different places and have different accents. That is not how brains or development of brains in children works. And then to treat them as 'different' people? Even if DiD was real they're all aspects of the same person and therefore not a person. And that whole 'front' thing where one is closer to the front is straight out of Split with his 'light' analogy.

Who genuinely believes this shit? Impressionable tweens who think magic is still possible?

 

[Rattled Skeleton]

I'm pretty late to the party, but to me, her deleting her Tumblr is incredibly suspicious. A while back, I had a scroll through her Tumblr archive and there were essentially no posts about DID prior to 2016, so you'll just have to take my word on that.
From what I remember, her "liked posts" were not public.

Pretty easy to find what she liked. In google, It’s saved in the meta description for those webpages, you just have to type in the keywords “calamityninja liked” (with quotations) It’s mainly just fandoms and gay shit though.

 

[DissociaDONT]

Off topic but can we talk about how fucking dumb the SaniTea Podcast is? Dumb doesn’t even come close to describing it. I’ve been really bothered by it for a long time. I know the nature of podcasts is that there is often a balance between personalities and experts weighing in on topics which make them interesting but the way the SaniTea Podcast is structured, Chloe seems to treat herself like the “expert” in literally every realm of mental health where Nan seems to just talk out of their ass in the annoying voice of whatever alter is fronting. And they just have a really stanky, dead end chemistry.

I’m not only bothered by it because it’s dumb as fuck. I think it’s also toxic and dangerous that these people who have no formal education in psychology feel so strongly that they are qualified to speak on these topics that they made a whole podcast. Classic narcissists.

Probably the most bothersome podcast of all is when they choose to speak on addiction. I know Nan claims to have a history with alcohol and in the video where she introduced her alcoholic construction worker alter, she expressed that the “body couldn’t tolerate any more alcohol”. I’m still not sure if this is factual or just another power move for gains in the oppression olympics.

In the podcast, Chloe tries to join in on the oppression gains by saying she has no experience with a conventional addiction like alcohol or drugs, but has been told she has “addictions” which I assume perhaps a therapist told her that an obsession with calories or food could be an addiction.

Throughout the video you can tell that neither of them know enough about addiction to be discussing or giving advice on it. It’s so cringey. Nan talks and Chloe agrees with everything she says and occasionally throws in words like “dopamine”. This is where all of this misinformation borders on dangerous.

SaniTea Podcast Addictions

I've linked it here before, but she also made an "educational" video about relapses. The last third is literally just telling her audience how valuable her information is and how these things won't improve unless they like and share and go to her social media.

Her collab with Jessica Kellgren-Fozard was the worst for me. Sitting there talking about her chronic fatigue with an actual disabled person and activist. It was so glaringly obvious how little she actually knew.

 

[Negative Nancy]

Do you guys look at Twitter just to check how people are reacting to this? I had the misfortune of doing that and am not surprised to see that the majority seem to be defending her. This was the tweet that caught my attention the most:

"You cannot prove someone doesn't have a mental disorder and it's disgusting to even try. Profiting off your own illness isn't a problem. If I made videos about my lung disease, would you say I was faking it for money? Grow up. DissociaDID have only had rumors spread after Trisha."

I get the sentiment but wouldn't these people be saying this exact thing about Nan/TeamPinata a few weeks ago? At the end of the day, they were a creep who had a young audience and a reach because of a sensationalised disorder they might or might not be faking, an influence they used to exploit young viewers by sugar coating their weird fetish and drawing CP on the side. Now people are taking Nin out of the equation and "protecting" her, not knowing how involved she was and if she enabled any of it. There is proof here in the forums that would back these claims up, she knows about Nan's "comic-book" and she is more than willing to make out with her as her "littles" or "age-sliding" self, not to mention she was in a sexual relationship with some weird-ass furry alter Nan had... also holy shit, writing these things down make my head spin but yknow.

Why are people so willing to make these people rich and getting angry at others for trying to expose something? I would say I come from a very SJW-y background myself and I admitted I was subscribed to this woman because I thought she was legit so I can sort of see why these people react the way they do and why they are walking on eggshells. Everyone's just trying to be politically correct, everyone's valid, everyone's story matters yada yada. But I would think anyone who bothered to look through this forum (or even just the OP) would have a change of heart or at least start to doubt things.

After reading through this forum, I have reasonable doubt which won't go away because someone wrote a wishy-washy tweet about attempting suicide or edited a nice looking template on Instagram saying they are in a bad place. I agree that you cannot prove someone doesn't have a mental disorder because it's quite literally in their head and since we are on the internet, the symptoms can obviously be faked but why are these braindead morons trying so hard to defend someone who might as well be faking? If she is faking she isn't exactly profiting off her own mental illness at all, she is doing exactly what they accuse Trisha of doing, she is profiting off of a disorder that she doesn't have and has faked her way into a community of people who might have it (if it even exists) and became one of the spokespeople for it. It is quite scary that she has more followers / reach / influence than DID Youtubers who seem to be doing this for the last 5-6 years.

 

[bonitoflakeprincess]

That video just shows me how fake this is. This is just role-playing at it's lowest form. Like, even if someone entered a fugue state and had another 'personality' come through why would they have these complex backstory identities and come from different places and have different accents. That is not how brains or development of brains in children works. And then to treat them as 'different' people? Even if DiD was real they're all aspects of the same person and therefore not a person. And that whole 'front' thing where one is closer to the front is straight out of Split with his 'light' analogy.

Who genuinely believes this shit? Impressionable tweens who think magic is still possible?

I'm getting the impression this is what therapy is now. or perhaps science has grown, and the world is to be kinder. like how some cultures think the retarded children were left there by faries, and they stole "better baby". or racists deeming Australian Aborginals as not H.Homo Sapians but their own species. to treat/view DID alters, like a conjoined twin. there is no such things as a "two headed" person, they are a conjoined twin, single bodied twin, because heads are brains, and are people.

 

[NoWords]

I agree that you cannot prove someone doesn't have a mental disorder because it's quite literally in their head

It's true that we can't prove someone is faking, but what this forum did was point out inconsistencies and provide reasonable doubt to her "diagnosis". It is up to the individual to come to the most logical conclusion on their own. It just so happens she has a ridiculous loyal cult that kisses the floor behind her as she walks. That being said:

A lot of the same people who refuse to admit she could be lying are the ones creating outlandish systems and subsystems and lying themselves or they are just that fucking retarded.

 

[DissociaDONT]

I have more screenshots.

From another FB group Chloe’s in. Comments weren’t interesting.
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Okay this makes me more willing to believe the dip in the lake theory if she nearly froze to death and was missing for two hours. Pisses me off regarding allusions to hanging.

Also that pic of Nan and Chloe together is still on Chloe’s featured pictures. Either she’s trying to keep up a facade for her family and friends or they’re not actually broken up

Here’s that did and me person’s Instagram account where they’ve deleted their post about being doxed as well as their Instagram story about it. Who knew that getting doxed isn’t actually fun?
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That first screenshot is confirming my fears that these people think their inner world is a real and fixed metaphysical space. I guess Chloe was optimistic she was particularly special because her imagined inner world got bigger the longer she imagined it.

 

[Lurk]

Status; Newb
Lurked; Centuries
MH issues: Pathological fear of the BeeGees.

Having also read Helen's book, when Chloe has alluded to having burns featured in her 'trauma' it made me think that she too has read it and chose to steal that as a detail to make her more believable/pityworthy. She seems bright so I don't doubt that she does research into DID.


And as far as hoping Nan releases things that will damage Chloe, we all know that a Pinata always gives up the goodies if you hit it hard enough...

I had the same thought when I started reading the book and got to the feet-burning bit. I would assume that Chloe must have at least watched the documentary on Helen because she's probably consumed everything on youtube about DID. If she also read the book, then its even more heinous to me that she'd continue making a mockery of what Helen and other's like her have gone through.

ps. I finished the book last night, and was somewhat dismayed to see Remy Aquarone's name in the acknowledgements

 

[Negative Nancy]

It's true that we can't prove someone is faking, but what this forum did was point out inconsistencies and provide reasonable doubt to her "diagnosis", it is up to the individual to come to the most logic conclusion on their own. It just so happens she has a ridiculous loyal cult kissing the floor behind her as she walks. A lot of the same people who refuse to admit she could be lying, are the ones creating outlandish systems and subsystems and lying themselves.

Exactly! That's what the forum did for me. Nobody's trying to prove anything or claiming they can, the posts pointing out the inconsistencies in her timeline and videos is enough to start doubting things.

I don't think her cult is going anywhere and I don't think they'll change their stance on her unless they have a big epiphany looking through the forums. Casual viewers like me might see the light.

I just can't get over her deleted Tik-Tok where she doesn't put a finger down because she didn't remember when Tupac died or hasn't watched The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air as a kid and all her followers are sending their support because this means she had childhood trauma and was abused by her neglecting parents. There are kids growing up in countries having to see their parents' faces blow up in war and I bet you won't see them going into Youtube ten years later to announce they have split into 56 alters and one of them is an asexual centaur who identifies as a toaster. This is no abuse-olympics where I'm gonna judge whose trauma is more valid but I can't take someone or their community seriously if they posted a video of them claiming to be traumatized because their parents didn't listen to Tupac and had support of actual functioning adults with double digit brain cells (wishful thinking when I say double digit).