Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[Bust Down Gloriana]

Faking DID must be the easiest thing in the world when you think about it. These mental health advocate (?) communities won't be asking you about your trauma because that's a touchy subject, you will never have to share your trauma because of this and you always have the amnesia walls to back up your claims if you have to share some of it, saying you don't remember your non-existent trauma.

Also, people will think your 3000 year-old Japanese half robot-half vampire alter with a Skyrim NPC name is valid and attack anyone who raises doubt so... really, you don't have to try so hard. Maybe I should do it if it's going to pay my bills.

Sure, I’ll subscribe to your channel! But only if I can pay for regular Skype calls with the Skyrim NPC alter... even though you’re not supposed to be able to control your alters...

 

[NoWords]

she didn't remember when Tupac died or hasn't watched The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

Insanity. She's hardly old enough for any of this anyway. Isn't she 23? Didn't Tupac die in 1996..basic math. Who the fuck remembers when they were 1 year old? Not me.

 

[DissociaDONT]

I just can't get over her deleted Tik-Tok where she doesn't put a finger down because she didn't remember when Tupac died or hasn't watched The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air as a kid and all her followers are sending their support because this means she had childhood trauma and was abused by her neglecting parents. There are kids growing up in countries having to see their parents' faces blow up in war and I bet you won't see them going into Youtube ten years later to announce they have split into 56 alters and one of them is an asexual centaur who identifies as a toaster. This is no abuse-olympics where I'm gonna judge whose trauma is more valid but I can't take someone or their community seriously if they posted a video of them claiming to be traumatized because their parents didn't listen to Tupac and had support of actual functioning adults with double digit brain cells (wishful thinking when I say double digit).

Excuse you. I think you're forgetting that her parents didn't buy her a Bop-It. The suffering of people in third world countries does not cancel out the trauma of white girls from supportive middle to upper-middle class families.

But, yeah, seriously that video minimized childhood trauma so bad it was downright offensive. I've always been against the argument of, "Well, you have nothing to complain about. There are other people out there who have it worse." But Chloe has said multiple times that her parents were kind and supportive. She alludes to abuse, but her repeated and ritualized trauma happened at or before the age of three, her parents have no clue what it might have been, and she described her childhood as happy and carefree.

Never once have I seen her talk about the dangers of false recovered memories when it comes to trauma. Anything that might bring someone's diagnosis into question doesn't have a place on her channel. According to her, DID is common, underdiagnosed, and if you think you're faking, you're not.

 

[just a person]

It's interesting, the amount of people on Twitter who are saying they got bad vibes from Nan while watching Chloe's videos. Examples of Twitter threads here and here

 

[Bust Down Gloriana]

Insanity. She's hardly old enough for any of this anyway. Isn't she 23? Didn't Tupac die in 1996..basic math. Who the fuck remembers when they were 1 year old? Not me.

The only logical answer is that you too must have DID. After all, Chloe said it’s as common among the population as red hair and she supports self diagnosis.

I’m so proud to be a part of your DID journey!

 

[Fareal]

people with genuine serious mental disorders: the most important thing is to pass for normal

people with fake serious mental disorders: the most important thing is to like, follow and subscribe <3

 

[Negative Nancy]

Sure, I’ll subscribe to your channel! But only if I can pay for regular Skype calls with the Skyrim NPC alter... even though you’re not supposed to be able to control your alters...

Hey, I have the Skyrim soundtrack ready as a positive trigger, don't you worry about that. For 300 bucks a month, you get to see me stare into the abyss for two seconds and then do my best impression of Mjoll the Lioness. (Had to look this up, I don't fucking play Skyrim lmao.)

Insanity. She's hardly old enough for any of this anyway. Isn't she 23? Didn't Tupac die in 1996..basic math. Who the fuck remembers when they were 1 year old? Not me.

I just don't understand the correlation. Like, you didn't know 9/11 happened and you don't remember when Tupac was shot. How does this show you had a bad childhood? Literally what the fuck. Isn't it quite the opposite? Why would remembering someone getting shot mean you had a good childhood? I would understand if the questions were like "did your mom give you a hug" or some sappy shit like that...

But, yeah, seriously that video minimized childhood trauma so bad it was downright offensive

Reminds me of her "trauma"related to forests that she can't remember and someone alluded to their own trauma related to forests (a fucking satanic ritual, btw) and she just said "Oh, thank you but I don't think that was it!" without even trying to fake some type of compassion for this person who seems to have had it worse than her. She is so detached and out of it that she literally doesn't understand what would be even relevant in a situation like that, probably because she had a relatively good childhood with loving parents.

Since the TikTok is gone, I don't even remember why there were putting their fingers down for. I don't think the OP labeled their original TikTok as "people with childhood trauma can relate" when they are listing random shit like that. It just seems to be random stuff about American culture that happened in a certain time period and nothing more... Makes me believe she couldn't just post that Tiktok as is (just her responding to questions putting her fingers down) without inserting that childhood trauma schtick as a description even though there is no correlation there. And people eat it up. She really doesn't have to try lol.

 

[Mistook for Human]

As a newbie id like to start off by saying I AcTuALly HaVE a Mental disor.....lol jk jk.
Seriously though, this has been an intense ride. Props for all the digging guys! Holy shit!
I wouldn't say I am a "fan" of Chloes channel but have watch quite a lot of videos learning about DID since my grandmother had it. After going through all the info and time lines. I sincerely think she does have did. I think those parts of her that seem fake is her trying to come off as a professional but lack a lot of knowledge of social interacts. Trys too hard to be "im very messed up in the head but its cool cause I know how to deal!" Clearly not true at all. I think her trying to be "helpful" to others that have been trauma is a selfish mind set to convince her self everything is real. I could be completely wrong but that's where I stand as of now. Will continue to follow.

As far as Nan....fuck that twat. Mental disorder or not. That is a bad person. Born that way. Don't give a shit what anyone says. Dumb ass die hard fans. The moment I seen one of her videos I immediately though "nah, this person just isn't right" and never able to watch their videos without cringing.
Regardless, when I heard the rumors I didn't think them to be true. I only seen the not so bad ones. Untillllll I seen the time line. How do they still have supporters out there! Like what the fuck!!

However, especially what I have seen on reddit. You guys have done a great job convincing fans that this is true. I've seen a lot of fans who had originally defending nan to now telling everyone to come here to see the facts themselves. Which given the difference in communities, is kind of amazing. Even die hards are starting to question Chloe as well. Which is great! It is so unhealthy to be diehard fans of anyone. Especially the internet.

So thank you everyone who is involved.
This is all very important to share and also I enjoyed this roller-coaster ride. Hahaha.

 

[DissociaDONT]

people with genuine serious mental disorders: the most important thing is to pass for normal

people with fake serious mental disorders: the most important thing is to like, follow and subscribe <3

I don't think there's anything wrong with actually trying to destigmatize mental illness and spreading awareness. (With the caveat that you know what you're talking about and you've read more than a Wikipedia article and a couple of studies you found through Google.) It's just that these people making itemized lists of everything even slightly wrong with them are so loud and proud about being oppressed they drown out the voices of people actually struggling, people who have a few major and very real problems rather than a dozen self-diagnosed imagined ones.

 

[NoWords]

but have watch quite a lot of videos learning about DID since my grandmother had it.

You were doing good until right there.

 

[incorrigible shit goblin]

She also needs to be certain to secure her public speaker bag.
I'm going to assume this is to ensure her followers are well aware of her stance.
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As earlier posted Nan stepped off the speaker list.

The only thing these two are EntitleDID to is a psychiatric ward.

 

[DissociaDONT]

Since the TikTok is gone, I don't even remember why there were putting their fingers down for. I don't think the OP labeled their original TikTok as "people with childhood trauma can relate" when they are listing random shit like that. It just seems to be random stuff about American culture that happened in a certain time period and nothing more... Makes me believe she couldn't just post that Tiktok as is (just her responding to questions putting her fingers down) without inserting that childhood trauma schtick as a description even though there is no correlation there. And people eat it up. She really doesn't have to try lol.

I've never uploaded a video here before. Hopefully I didn't fuck this up.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

I've never uploaded a video here before. Hopefully I didn't fuck this up.

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I only got 5, I can’t believe I was abused as a child and never even knew

 

[Negative Nancy]

I've never uploaded a video here before. Hopefully I didn't fuck this up.

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Thank you for posting. It's incredible how much funnier it gets every time you watch it. She really didn't need to put that "childhood trauma survivor edition" caption there... I want to scream thinking there are people who watched this and felt sorry for her. Kind of proves she needs that validation no matter the context, you can answer questions about your childhood (especially unrelated ones like this) without reminding everyone you have trauma every other post. Especially if it is a trauma you don't even remember and you are seen saying you had a great childhood on your social media platforms.

It is a random 90s popular culture questionnaire thing and she isn't even American. What's the big deal? Lord.

 

[xbrokengirlx]

The only logical answer is that you too must have DID. After all, Chloe said it’s as common among the population as red hair and she supports self diagnosis.

I’m so proud to be a part of your DID journey!

I watched that tiktok and played along, and guess what?! I ended up with the exact same result as Chloe! As a natural redhead as well, does that make me an extra special ginger DID wannabe?!
Brb, setting up all the social media accounts, ready to lie to the masses, and beg you all to send me money because... umm.... my eternal robot werewolf alter knocked down our house and now I .. oh sorry, WE have no where to live now

 

[DissociaDONT]

Thank you for posting. It's incredible how much funnier it gets every time you watch it. She really didn't need to put that "childhood trauma survivor edition" caption there... I want to scream thinking there are people who watched this and felt sorry for her. Kind of proves she needs that validation no matter the context, you can answer questions about your childhood (especially unrelated ones like this) without reminding everyone you have trauma every other post. Especially if it is a trauma you don't even remember and you are seen saying you had a great childhood on your social media platforms.

It is a random 90s popular culture questionnaire thing and she isn't even American. What's the big deal? Lord.

I posted screenshots of the comment section a while back. There were definitely people who felt sorry for her, and it definitely made me lose what little faith I had left in humanity.

 

[NoWords]

Thank you for posting. It's incredible how much funnier it gets every time you watch it. She really didn't need to put that "childhood trauma survivor edition" caption there... I want to scream thinking there are people who watched this and felt sorry for her. Kind of proves she needs that validation no matter the context, you can answer questions about your childhood (especially unrelated ones like this) without reminding everyone you have trauma every other post. Especially if it is a trauma you don't even remember and you are seen saying you had a great childhood on your social media platforms.

It is a random 90s popular culture questionnaire thing and she isn't even American. What's the big deal? Lord.

Yea, that shit is annoying to watch. There are tons of people that can remember shit like this even with childhood trauma, this means nothing.

Clearly just another way to try to validate her bullshit. The random pop up text is especially distasteful.

Just fall off the face of the earth, Chloe.

 

[heterotic]

I don't think there's anything wrong with actually trying to destigmatize mental illness and spreading awareness. (With the caveat that you know what you're talking about and you've read more than a Wikipedia article and a couple of studies you found through Google.) It's just that these people making itemized lists of everything even slightly wrong with them are so loud and proud about being oppressed they drown out the voices of people actually struggling, people who have a few major and very real problems rather than a dozen self-diagnosed imagined ones.

There's honestly another layer of this, too.

At surface value, I can appreciate the idea of sharing one's struggles. It's cathartic to let it go and be validated by people who have experienced what you have. At the same time, it's irresponsible the way it is generally done. I have not seen a single mental health advocate who actually struggles with anything other than recovering addicts who are knowledgable about their issues and also actively seeking help and sharing what they've been learning with their audience. That doesn't mean they aren't out there, obviously, but there's this wallowing or even celebrating debilitating issues that I find to be outright dangerous. It can't just be about relating to others and finding a sense of belonging. It has to be about helping those you relate to manage their symptoms and getting help.

It is a random 90s popular culture questionnaire thing and she isn't even American. What's the big deal? Lord.

She wasn't even born for half of the crap in it on top of it.

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It really annoys me that there's this group of teenagers and early 20-somethings selling this idea that if you have childhood amnesia it must be due to trauma. It just isn't true. They attribute forgetting what they did a few days prior to a dissociative amnesiac event, and again, this isn't true. They fundamentally have no idea how this disorder might work, and that's mainly because every public example of it uses the same retired symptoms.

Recent Canadian research has shown that around age 7, the hippocampus can be easily and often is overloaded, causing a disconnection to memories formed between ages 3-7. It's common knowledge that prior to age 3, the hippocampus is not developed enough and overloads often, but no one is running around saying "I can't remember being an infant, must be abuse!", despite that it is the same cause. In fact, it's unusual when people can remember things prior to the age of 3. Childhood amnesia to some degree is actually quite common, just like not recalling what you had for breakfast 3 days ago.

These kids are just so desperate to be unique and traumatized that a lack of information to them must mean they suffered HORRIBLY and that MUST MEAN THEY HAVE DID.

 

[NoWords]

but there's this wallowing or even celebrating debilitating issues that I find to be outright dangerous.

This is one of the most bothersome issues in regards to her channel. I can't wrap my mind around the want to wallow in things that have hurt you. I find her channel to be more about proving and validating that she has been traumatized rather than actually helping anyone.

 

[Enoby Way]

I wouldn't say I am a "fan" of Chloes channel but have watch quite a lot of videos learning about DID since my grandmother had it. After going through all the info and time lines. I sincerely think she does have did.

If there is one thing we have learnt from this saga it is not to watch videos about DID in order to learn about DID. go to a library.