Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Börk update: 1333 dead so far http://archive.li/wip/cKGSZ
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Anders Tegnell says the National Health Agency expected a big increase in the amount of infections and deaths during the Easter week but that it didn't occur. (Same link as above)The situation in Stockholm seems to be getting worse http://archive.li/OzsTd
Ultimately, the National Board of Health and Welfare says they're going to try re-examing all corona related deaths to see if the amount of deaths is lower or higher than what has been reported so far http://archive.li/nAKoO

So you're in the middle of a second outbreak that seems to have no fucking breaks while sporting a deathtoll per capita so ludicrous only us spaniards are above you and your health and welfare fucks are thinking more about how to excuse deaths with comorbidities than about how to keep best girl corona from rolling over y'all like a fucking train.

You know right now our healthcare's recovered substantially, we ask no questions and while borders are closed they're not that hard to go through. Just saying. I would not want to stay on a country with so little regard for its population.
 
Great, all we need now is for the black death to return to add to the misery.

The rat issue is worrying to me personally though. Had some issues with loft rats a few months ago (live on top floor of apartment building with access to loft area) which an exterminator sorted but management company didn't do any prevention like having someone seal up entry points.

Rats are now back and I can hear them running around and scratching up there and its driving me fucking insane. I was wondering if the return was partially caused by food sources drying up and them venturing further afield.
Rats are smart, probably one of the smartest critters I've come across. You could use metal cage traps but they outsmart those, just like the spring traps. They'll learn to discern poisoned bait too. The only thing you can do is cut off their access to the area and make sure they can't get to any food sources. If you're desperate you could try leaving food for them a ways from your home but that's a last resort thing.

Or you could get a rat terrier.
 
Notable article comparing the two Koreas' approaches to dealing with the ChiCom Flu.




Sometimes the Brookings Institute puts out good stuff like this. But sometimes they put out garbage like this. One of the dumbest things I have ever read. Note who wrote this piece of shit.



 
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I do realize with so many political news, checking the radicals and healthcare stuff I forgot to talk about the general population's morale. So let me get onto that. The memes never ended basically. You wanna know what's some of the most trending shit in spain? A video memeing star wars ep9 and a guide on how to make churros from home. Most people aside from the eventual political crap have just been spending their time having some stay at home vacations, going to online museums and memeing it up. I'd say morale's been pretty high except for those more politically inclined and me cause I had to eat that shit to inform y'all. God I'm gonna be so glad when I stop feeling compelled to actually pay atention to the minutia and can go back to only pating attention to the social media response. Doctors have had no real issues since the outbreak. I mean aside from unioners because we had to deal with the fucking coronavirus closet. (Seriously I still have this weird PTSD where something will remind me to the moment I opened that door and I will burst out laughing randomly. What the fuck was that?!) But yeah seems humor is far from dead, as always. I'll see if I can send memes without having to translate too much tonight. To the countries that aren't going lower yet, stay strong, you can do it, and don't forget to laugh sometimes.
 
Im curious about what we're going to do regarding all the people here in the US that are now in huge debt due to COVID treatment. We're going to need to figure something out regarding that since most insurers are waiving costs until May 31st. Also a large number of people lost their insurance with their jobs because gasp, tying healthcare to employment is real fucking stupid.


One good thing that this virus did is force some employers to actually give paid sick leave though, so that's nice.

When I was furloughed, I kept my insurance.
 
It still feels like we are missing a big piece of the puzzle.

7 pages behind, probably late and gay.



Turns out one of the research grants approved by Canada in January is a collaberation between Canadian Food Safety Inspection Agency, the University of Alberta, and the Wuhan Insititute of Virology, the suspected source of the COVID-19 outbreak. Additionally, there are reports coming out that on January 14th, if not earlier, the Wuhan government was made aware that human to human transmission was possible.
 
It still feels like we are missing a big piece of the puzzle.

7 pages behind, probably late and gay.



Turns out one of the research grants approved by Canada in January is a collaberation between Canadian Food Safety Inspection Agency, the University of Alberta, and the Wuhan Insititute of Virology, the suspected source of the COVID-19 outbreak. Additionally, there are reports coming out that on January 14th, if not earlier, the Wuhan government was made aware that human to human transmission was possible.

The only piece "missing" is that china is a cesspool of corruption led by a manchild on which not a single competent person occupies a single public position and our governments are fucking retarded for not closing all borders with them and leaving them to rot from ww2 onwards. Also germany should've never been allowed to reunify. No that has nothing to do with it, it's just true either way.
 
USS Barry, an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer, transits the Taiwan Strait

https://archive.vn/Dys0X


The source is extremely autistic, but it's still an interesting story. Taiwan has loads of short-range ballistic missiles that it would probably launch at Taiwanese airfields prior to an invasion in an attempt to ground the Taiwanese air force and achieve air superiority. E.g. from here.

https://archive.vn/JqpBt

The most likely scenario for an attack on Taiwan involves a lightning missile strike on naval ports and airfields. In view of that threat, Taiwan in recent years has hardened its airbases by burying hangars under mountains or tons of reinforced concrete. Taiwan’s fleet of 480 aircraft – including 64 Mirage-2000 fighters, 160 F-16s, and 123 locally made IDFs – might survive the bombardment, but if runways are unavailable they could not take off, or if already in the air, would have nowhere to land. The multi-layered saturation bombing would likely be followed by further aerial bombardment from fighter jets and bombers, and then ultimately the landing of Chinese troops.

It's a good article actually - it talks about Taiwan's domestic missile defense program and also how Taiwan has invested in " U.S.-developed Rapid Runway Repair kits". So it seems like this notion that the initial conflict would be China trying to cut runways and Taiwan trying to keep them operational.

Of course, if the US can put Aegis equipped ships in the Taiwan Strait they could shoot down some of those missiles. It also sends a message that a Chinese invasion of Taiwan would need to defeat the US Navy, which China is nowhere near able to do.
 
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The only piece "missing" is that china is a cesspool of corruption led by a manchild on which not a single competent person occupies a single public position and our governments are fucking exceptional for not closing all borders with them and leaving them to rot from ww2 onwards. Also germany should've never been allowed to reunify. No that has nothing to do with it, it's just true either way.
That sounds a lot like the US except that here we're allowed to complain and disobey without getting disappeared.
 
A good post with a lot in it. I don't know enough about the Beveridge/Bismark thing to comment. But any system must have a way of handling the very poor and quite poor who realistically could not afford to pay for their lifetime care. How do you make that work?
Any healthcare system would work well if there were no freeloaders and pisstakers. I've not been to casualty for a few years now luckily, but if you ever go, it's not a cross-section of society. It's very heavily skewed towards the bottom end. Rough as Fuck would descibe most of the waiting room . I don't know if it's their chaotic lives, drug/alcohol use or what. It usually looks like they just don't have the intelligence not to injure themselves in stupid pointless ways. How do Bismarkian systems handle this without just punting them outside to bleed on the pavement?

The bit I've quoted I just wanted to add my experience:
GP - I've had from very very good to half arsed patronising mediocre . They really are variable independent surgeries.
A&E - Pretty good. Though as I alluded to above, don't ever injure yourself late on Friday night..
Acute problems like broken limbs - Or serious acute medical stuff like serious heart disease or fix this right now cancer. Pretty good, in the trusts I've had experience of .

The part they do generally suck at is this middle ground of "serious , but not requiring immediate intervention" . E.g.
Weird pains that might be something minor ...
...But actually turn out to be cancer.
Oh if only we'd caught it sooner you wouldn't be fucked.
What Like, 18 months ago when I first tried to get it seen to you mean ?
Yes
heh I remember when I was a student nurse doing a
Placement in A&E on a Saturday night. Oh the Abuse I got was a lot! Drunk girls with their families causing drama crying coz she was sick and lost a earring. Her entitled brat and her parents were wanting me to look for it lol. I raised a eyebrow and curtly said no time walking away lol
 
UK Daily:

417,649 Tested (+18,665)

103,093 Positive (+4,618 )

13,839 Dead (+861)

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In other news, Mild Mannered Health Minister Hancock already a bit pissed off from Channel 4's stupid stunt of accusing the government of murdering old people got ratty with Robinson as the MSM finds chanting "when will you end the lockdown" endlessly after Keir Starmer suggested they talk about it the best course of action.

Really doesn't do the rapidly fading trust in the media any help whatsoever, and more people who only used to blindly believe the news, are starting to question the media's line of questioning.
 
The more concerning thing is why aren't people just rooting/rom their phones and disabling play store if they're worried.
You can just download apks and install whatever the fuck you like or don't like that way.
Because

A.) the ROM scene in android isnt what it used to be. Cyanogenmod going down fractured the community. Many more recent phones dont have any ROMs available. Same goes with Root, many newer phones, especially from samsung, cannot be rooted at all. Also, doing these things has long been the realm of tinkerers, the vast majority of people have NO idea how it works. And an increasing number of apps refuse to run on a rooted phone, banking apps for starters.

B.) This doesnt use the play store. IT uses google play services, which is baked into the ROM and cannot be disabled without fucking up tons of other things on the phone. This circles back to point A.) where most phones today dont have the custom ROM support they used to.

What this highlights is the need for a Google-free phone. Google has made this progressively harder over the years, tying more into Google play services so ASOP devices are utterly fucked. This is why Firefox shouldnt have dropped FirefoxOS so hard.
Sweden is doing like 2500 tests a day, tops, so it would make sense the percentage of deaths is so high. They're only getting a small fraction of all cases.
Same problem in the States. Ohio has 7628 confirmed cases and 2237 hospitalizations, with 677 ICU admissions. Those numbers are terrifying.....

Until you look at data from states with better testing systems, and it becomes REALLY evident that Ohio is barely testing. They have now announced they will hopefully get 200K tests out by the end of april. That's 10x as many they tested in all of march, but it should be 500K-1M+ by this point. They have NO clue how far the infection has spread. And Ohio is far from the only state with this issue.
 
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