Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

What the hell is so complex about pedophilia or a pedophile? Complex issues or not, they’re still a fucking pedophile.

Whether people like it or not, once you reach adulthood it is your responsibility to address any issues in childhood that fucked you up, particularly if those issues put you at risk of harming someone else. The majority of CSA victims do not come out of abuse with an interest in children and it should not be any kind of excuse even if they do. If Nan was a victim of CSA, then I would have pitied her and wished her well. Her actions as an adult cancel out any sympathy I might feel towards her.

Yes, unravelling an abusive childhood is complicated. It can be difficult. It doesn't always run smoothly. But it shouldn't be an excuse to get away with being a potential pedophile. It was her responsibility to identify those feelings and seek help. We know she was in treatment. We know professionals advised her to stop drawing. Yet she continued. There is nothing complex about this anymore - she made the decisions she made and her childhood is irrelevant. She has been an adult for 12 years.

Also, Chloe wears a collar a lot. No way they werent in some DDLG/Pet Space queershit

There are screenshots buried somewhere in thread of Chloe admitting to being in some dom/sub dynamic with Riven the werecat. Incidentally, Riven came from Evan, a sixteen year old who called Chloe his Mother.
 
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Nan's ex is walking back his previous statements and getting sentimental over his pedophile lover. His own BPD is glaring - pick a stance, Sam. I'd recommend opposing pedophilia personally.

We aren't ignoring anything. Actually anyone who says something like this is ignoring the fact that this person is a child predator because for some delusional reason the excuse is more important than the crime.

It makes no difference what so ever to me if a person has brain damage, DID, was abused themselves, or whatever other reason someone can come up with to rationalize their gross sexual fetishes. If you are a pedophile you are a junk ass person that should jump off a cliff. I don't give a fuck about your personality flaws.

Her actions as an adult cancel out any sympathy I might feel towards her.

This is exactly it.
 
Yes, unravelling an abusive childhood is complicated. It can be difficult. It doesn't always run smoothly. But it shouldn't be an excuse to get away with being a pedophile.

This is what always gets me about these two, their fandom, and munchies in general. People (most of them) with actual mental health issues who are aware of it don’t like to use it as an excuse for their behavior, even if it is stemming from their issues. They want to be seen and treated normally, to be held at the same level of agency and accountability as people who don’t have illnesses or disorders are. They don’t want to be treated with kiddie gloves. Most of them feel guilty when they act out because of their issues and don’t want to excuse it or have others excuse it because it doesn’t help them. They’re trying to learn how to function properly in society, if their actions aren’t recognized and dealt with in a healthy way, then that doesn’t help them grow.

Being nice and forgiving with Nan isn’t going to help them. It didn’t in the past and it’s not going to now. Their actions are inexcusable, past trauma or not, and most people with mental health issues recognize this. But, of course, their fandom is made up of malingering zealots, so I don’t expect them to actually understand the damage they’re causing by trying to play it off as “it was just Nan, their other alters are innocent” or “they were a CSA survivor!” or whatever excuse they use.
 
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A little further down Sam clarifies the soliciting a teenager thing by saying it was a 32 year old trans man with a teenage alter. Still fucked up considering these people think of alters as individual human beings. So littles are actual children but teenage alters are fair game?
I get where he's coming from... somewhat. Nan is definitely convinced they have this disorder, and yeah, skeletons in the closet. But I can't see how he can excuse so much. Wanting them to still be considered human, I guess I have to agree with by de facto, but that doesn't mean people can't be upset and angry (and call me a moral fag, but I think there are limits to what can be said and done in that anger).

Yeah, BPD can fuck up your sense of boundaries, especially sexually, but we already know people in the past told her she was being gross (and chased her off the forum). And her doctor told her to stop drawing it. And her parents made it clear it wasn't really acceptable. Plus, she's 30 years old, and not just an emotionally immature 18 or 19 year old- and even if she fucking was, I'd still consider her a pedo just by the severity. Why did it take her 'losing everything' to get it? Jesus Christ.
 
I get where he's coming from... somewhat. Nan is definitely convinced they have this disorder, and yeah, skeletons in the closet. But I can't see how he can excuse so much. Wanting them to still be considered human, I guess I have to agree with by de facto, but that doesn't mean people can't be upset and angry (and call me a moral fag, but I think there are limits to what can be said and done in that anger).

Yeah, BPD can fuck up your sense of boundaries, especially sexually, but we already know people in the past told her she was being gross (and chased her off the forum). And her doctor told her to stop drawing it. And her parents made it clear it wasn't really acceptable. Plus, she's 30 years old, not 18 or 19. Why did it take her 'losing everything' to get it? Jesus Christ.
I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. Previously in the thread it was stated (Sam himself said it on reddit) that Nan tried soliciting a teenage alter. There was confusion on whether the real person was a teenager or just the alter. Sam is now saying the real person was an adult and the alter was a teenager. I’m saying that shouldn’t matter in their made up world where alters are “real people” since that would mean saying “Nan solicited a teenager” is a stand-alone sentence which needs no elaboration.

Edit: unless you meant to quote comrade and not me

double edit: Nan was apparently fronting as a teenage alter as well when this scenario happened
 
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This comes directly from Remy Aquarone. You can find this rhetoric from all of the DID YouTubers who sought him out. And, of course, it spreads to all of their communities, so people stop getting treatment because they fall into this warped belief that there is nothing wrong with them, that they are just very unique and cool. This is akin to someone having a physical illness and instead of treating the cause of the illness, managing the symptoms.

I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. Previously in the thread it was stated (Sam himself said it on reddit) that Nan tried soliciting a teenage alter. There was confusion on whether the real person was a teenager or just the alter. Sam is now saying the real person was an adult and the alter was a teenager. I’m saying that shouldn’t matter in their made up world where alters are “real people” since that would mean saying “Nan solicited a teenager” is a stand-alone sentence which needs no elaboration.

Edit: unless you meant to quote comrade and not me

I think there is some confusion that is conflating two different scenarios.

Nan LARPing as a teenager solicited another adult LARPing as a teenager for sex. Weird and distressing from BOTH parties, but not a crime.

Nan solicited an actual minor (teenaged) online. She was "fronting" as one of her "teenaged alters," and convinced that person that she was a teenager. I don't have the link to this report specifically, but I believe it's in this thread somewhere. I hope someone else can recall where and link it.
 
I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. Previously in the thread it was stated (Sam himself said it on reddit) that Nan tried soliciting a teenage alter. There was confusion on whether the real person was a teenager or just the alter. Sam is now saying the real person was an adult and the alter was a teenager. I’m saying that shouldn’t matter in their made up world where alters are “real people” since that would mean saying “Nan solicited a teenager” is a stand-alone sentence which needs no elaboration.

Edit: unless you meant to quote comrade and not me
Oh, shit yeah, I meant to quote comrade. I'm a fucking autist.

You fucking animal, that is going to haunt me for the rest of my life.:cryblood:
If I had to see it, you all do.
 
This comes directly from Remy Aquarone. You can find this rhetoric from all of the DID YouTubers who sought him out. And, of course, it spreads to all of their communities, so people stop getting treatment because they fall into this warped belief that there is nothing wrong with them, that they are just very unique and cool. This is akin to someone having a physical illness and instead of treating the cause of the illness, managing the symptoms.

It’s the equivalent of holistic healing. Feeds into your ego, makes you feel validated, but doesn’t really help all that much. Chloe is the holistic healer of YT mental health, aw shit.
 
I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. Previously in the thread it was stated (Sam himself said it on reddit) that Nan tried soliciting a teenage alter. There was confusion on whether the real person was a teenager or just the alter. Sam is now saying the real person was an adult and the alter was a teenager. I’m saying that shouldn’t matter in their made up world where alters are “real people” since that would mean saying “Nan solicited a teenager” is a stand-alone sentence which needs no elaboration.

Edit: unless you meant to quote comrade and not me
it does not matter to these people. the will say if an alter is below the AOC, you treat them like flesh and blood under age of consent. be it the body is 30 and the alter is 15, you see that a 15 year old is a 15 year old and back off, even if you are 19 and trying to get with them, if you live where that is not legal. on the flip side, that 15 year old has to know the'll get everyone in trouble if they try to get with a flesh and blood 15 year old. I need to pester these people about "inner world/inner system stuff". I am sure anyone else they will support, but if I ask these folk about "psycic sex with that teen who lives in my head, is that ok?" my fighting with people on line has taught me things are ok, or to be protected when you attack them. but when you want to be part of it, it is no longer ok.
 
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I suggest we make these fuckers pay nx more taxes: n is the number of alters they have as they keep saying they're all individuals.

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Chloe admitting to being in some dom/sub dynamic with Riven the werecat. Incidentally, Riven came from Evan, a sixteen year old who called Chloe his Mother.

Reading this stuff out loud makes you feel insane. Seriously. What the fuck. Also, don't these people have alters that deal with sexual stuff? Nina was Chloe's for example. Don't tell me Nan has a werecat alter for their sexual needs. Sounds like a furry fetish if nothing else.

I feel if there are people with DID, their splits would be to protect them and to get them through day-to-day life. What's the purpose of a sixteen year old werecat teen alter who is fucking your girlfriend in a catsuit if it's not just your way of validating a fetish of yours by saying it's connected to trauma? I'm lost.
 
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no wonder miss "I'm in therapy for 10 years" is not near integration (aside from faking it in the first place).
imo it makes sense that a professional is trying to make his patient not acknowledge their splits for it not to get worse and to integrate.
just my 2 cents to that screencap.
also I am a bit shocked on how many twitter user and other social media accounts there are that "suffer" from DID...
but I guess its just fun to have an excuse to be weird and roleplay.
 
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Newb here.
So multiplicity and me has uploaded a video today about flashbacks and this more than anything else proves to me that "nin" and pedo are faking.
Whether you believe jess or not her audio recording of her flashback is disturbing and when you compare to the "owo I'm disocciating/ oh I'm triggered" stuff of the others it's a fucking joke.
I have no idea how they have got away with this till now, or how I have just discovered the farms

no wonder miss "I'm in therapy for 10 years" is not near integration (aside from faking it in the first place).
imo it makes sense that a professional is trying to make his patient not acknowledge their splits for it not to get worse and to integrate.
just my 2 cents to that screencap.
also I am a bit shocked on how many twitter user and other social media accounts there are that "suffer" from DID...
but I guess its just fun to have an excuse to be weird and roleplay.
It does seem crazy to me, that when you scroll down in the comments the amount of "systems" is unreal! And they all have this annoying ridiculous system names. What is the point of that?
 
Reading this stuff out loud makes you feel insane. Seriously. What the fuck. Also, don't these people have alters that deal with sexual stuff? Nina was Chloe's for example. Don't tell me Nan has a werecat alter for their sexual needs. Sounds like a furry fetish if nothing else.

I feel if there are people with DID, their splits would be to protect them and to get them through day-to-day life. What's the purpose of a sixteen year old werecat teen alter who is fucking your girlfriend in a catsuit if it's not just your way of validating a fetish of yours by saying it's connected to trauma? I'm lost.
we all lost our moment to honestly and in a friendly manner, ask. now it's just smarmy, aggressive antagonizing.

I am told sexual alters also hold sexual trauma, even if some present in the "hollywood trope DID of the slutty one"

so, by Nin/Chloe's teachings

"someone had sexual trauma, and the subconscious created a teenage werecat to deal with things, if there was ever intimacy to be had, he will take the reins and deal with it"

"they brainnnnnnnnnn thought a teenage boy werecat is best"

it makes sense , I guess. I keep thinking I need an alter ego for own dysfunctional sexuality. but it won't be good enough, because I cannot look a new part. it really destroys me inside. I think if I had an alter ego to wear, to be for that, I'd want a gothy teen boy. and sometimes people view "the cat" as being sexy. sexy catwoman would not be sexy raccoon or weasel. right?(even though there are no raccoon burgalers)
 
Newb here.
So multiplicity and me has uploaded a video today about flashbacks and this more than anything else proves to me that "nin" and pedo are faking.
Whether you believe jess or not her audio recording of her flashback is disturbing and when you compare to the "owo I'm disocciating/ oh I'm triggered" stuff of the others it's a fucking joke.
I have no idea how they have got away with this till now, or how I have just discovered the farms

Before posting ask yourself this: does my post add anything new to the discussion? If the answer is no, or you're here just to announce that you're new, you probably need to refrain from hitting the "POST REPLY" button, my good dude.
 
The worst part of this whole DID community is how it enables and excuses predators. Age-sliding, paired with "you can't doubt someone who claims they have DID" and everyone is valid makes it so an adult can just say they have a 13 year old alter and everyone has to take it at face value. Then, since that alter is its own person and you have to validate it, the logical conclusion is that the alter can date an actual teenager and it's totally okay, if you for one second have doubts about it you are evil! How can Chloe say it's not okay for a 13 year old alter in a 30 year old body to date a 14 year old without contradicting everything she has said before? It would have a snowball effect that would end up invalidating the beliefs everyone in the community holds so dearly.

This is ultimately way more dangerous than her just manipulating kids into giving her money and worshiping the ground she walks on. She has created the perfect cocktail for pedophiles, that's why it's so important to expose her, when she falls, it will be way harder for them to use this to their advantage. They will have to latch on to the next trend and you autists will be here to discredit it. Let's make it hard for them to fulfill their fantasies.
 
It does seem crazy to me, that when you scroll down in the comments the amount of "systems" is unreal! And they all have this annoying ridiculous system names. What is the point of that?

Every brand needs a catchy name that’ll fit nicely on mugs and T-Shirts. It’s all about the presentation, as they’ve learned from Chloe.

It’s hard to believe that we have severe mental health disorder influencers, but... here we are.
 
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