Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[AmbiTron]

This thread has been bait for power-levelling autists. It's been a cracking read seeing these clueless self diagnosers getting shat on.

My absolute favorites were the ones who came here and asked us to use proper pronouns, or stop talking about it for the safety of their fake-ass community.

 

[NoWords]

My absolute favorites were the ones who came here and asked us to use proper pronouns, or stop talking about it for the safety of their fake-ass community.

Awe fuck. That must have been when I wasn't on. Damn it.

No. I believe she is actively faking.

I also believe she is actively faking. In no way do I think she believes she has anything wrong with her. She's known she was a lying asshole from the beginning.

 

[generalsneezus]

No. I believe she is actively faking.

She tries too hard to prove she has it. She sought out the diagnosis. She wasn't ever actually diagnosed, she got a recommendation and never followed through with an actual psychiatrist (or she did and was referred for a different diagnosis that she ignored). She refers to Remy Aquarone as a Doctor (he's not a doctor, and she knows this). There are inconsistencies with her stories about getting therapy. She's said that she started seeing someone other than Remy following her "diagnosis," has said she lost her therapist over some sort of drama, and then later claimed she's been going to therapy weekly consistently since she was diagnosed with the same DID specialist. The common assumption is that she has been using Better Help, maybe, for some of the time. Personally I don't believe she has been in therapy at all after her visits with Remy. She started her YouTube channel 3 weeks after she met with Remy.

She is an advocate for self-diagnosis and "any trauma is valid trauma," including... being born. Literally being born as trauma.

Multiplicity & Me is the only one I think may have been suggested into these symptoms, but I'm not really sure. There is such a small percentage of cases that present with symptoms like these (3% is what a previous president of ISSTD quoted that) and even those she said do not at all resemble what you find in the media, which is exactly what Chloe portrays.

Everything in this post is so valid. She’s very desperate to constantly confirm her did in every way. And as you said, Remy Aquarone literally cannot diagnose her. He’s not a psychiatrist. And starting a channel 3 weeks after seeing him, it takes most people YEARS to get diagnosed with did. She purposefully went to a place that had the highest rate for suggesting people had did, took the suggestion (which was not a legitimate diagnosis) and ran with it.
Someone also pointed out earlier in the thread that she lied about being in therapy. In the one video with all of the did yters together, she said she had actively been in therapy for a few years. This was February. However, we know through the facebook post this is not true, as a miscommunication with her therapist caused her to discontinue it, meaning she’s been out of therapy since later 2019 (or whenever that post was made, I can’t remember exactly when but ik it was before the video).

Chloe wants to end stigma but she too is compelling it through not moderating the prevalence of bullying in her fanbase and sensationalizing did to the point where people literally invent alters based off of her. And she’s making money while doing it. She doesn’t even need a legitimate job, just needs to assume a few new alters and make a happy and jolly meet the alters video to get the money rolling in.

 

[HighOnLife]

No. I believe she is actively faking.

Having once been a fan and now having dived deep into this thread I definitely think she doesn’t have it.
But I guess the lie is so deep at this point there are a few things that make it feel like she’s just taking advantage of an illness she has convinced herself is real.

I know with the Anthony Padilla interview Chloe had a moment where a little fronted. It’s fake as hell, and obviously weird since she has claimed before to never be ok exposing littles to the public. However, in her livestream after this incident she claims that right after being filmed she asked if she could see the footage and have them edit out the moment a little fronted, and Anthony had to persuade her to let them use it while removing the name.

I’d love to have someone from Anthony’s team verify this or something. It just seems like a weird thing to actually mention to the team if you purposely switched into being a Little just to get more sympathy and people going back to your channel.

 

[aanoo]

Okay, I'm just gonna say anyone who's been even near UEA knows the reputation that lake has for suicides/drunk accidents ending in death. Pretty much every student has someone in their cohort who died that way and that is why Nin threw herself in there- for attention, knowing it would cause the panic it did among their peers. Also. I don't wanna PL but as someone with trauma (no fancy DID shit, just regular shit) I googled my location and issue and when I brought up Pottergate to my GP years ago they basically told me Pottergate was a bullshit centre and I'd be better off pursuing private NHS therapy if I needed it. But that wouldn't give Nin the speshul not-even-a-real-diagnosis, huh?

EDIT: I'd say, why this is especially fucked up is that Nin/Chloe/whatever used the reputation of the UEA lake suicides to incite panic among her peers at the time, then when she was trying to gain an international audience, changed it to a more sensational hanging in the woods story (though the lake is surrounded by woods) to grasp the sympathy of worldwide viewers. That's very manipulative, in my eyes at least.

 

[NoWords]

However, in her livestream after this incident she claims that right after being filmed she asked if she could see the footage and have them edit out the moment a little fronted

If this is even true, she probably wanted to see the footage to ensure she didn't look too fake when switching. As for the names, she left a video up that showed her journal with the names of her "littles" in clear view, even after being told it was visable by her viewers.

I would assume she only gave permission because she didn't think she looked like she forced it. Which, of course, was a bad move because it was horrendous.

The idea that he pushed her into using footage of her "child alter" doesn't make sense.

I agree. We all saw that footage. He clearly asks if she needs to stop and she says no.

 

[generalsneezus]

Everything in this post is so valid. She’s very desperate to constantly confirm her did in every way. And as you said, Remy Aquarone literally cannot diagnose her. He’s not a psychiatrist. And starting a channel 3 weeks after seeing him, it takes most people YEARS to get diagnosed with did. She purposefully went to a place that had the highest rate for suggesting people had did, took the suggestion (which was not a legitimate diagnosis) and ran with it.
Someone also pointed out earlier in the thread that she lied about being in therapy. In the one video with all of the did yters together, she said she had actively been in therapy for a few years. This was February. However, we know through the facebook post this is not true, as a miscommunication with her therapist caused her to discontinue it, meaning she’s been out of therapy since later 2019 (or whenever that post was made, I can’t remember exactly when but ik it was before the video).

Chloe wants to end stigma but she too is compelling it through not moderating the prevalence of bullying in her fanbase and sensationalizing did to the point where people literally invent alters based off of her. And she’s making money while doing it. She doesn’t even need a legitimate job, just needs to assume a few new alters and make a happy and jolly meet the alters video to get the money rolling in.

My absolute favorites were the ones who came here and asked us to use proper pronouns, or stop talking about it for the safety of their fake-ass community.

Having once been a fan and now having dived deep into this thread I definitely think she doesn’t have it.
But I guess the lie is so deep at this point there are a few things that make it feel like she’s just taking advantage of an illness she has convinced herself is real.

I know with the Anthony Padilla interview Chloe had a moment where a little fronted. It’s fake as hell, and obviously weird since she has claimed before to never be ok exposing littles to the public. However, in her livestream after this incident she claims that right after being filmed she asked if she could see the footage and have them edit out the moment a little fronted, and Anthony had to persuade her to let them use it while removing the name.

I’d love to have someone from Anthony’s team verify this or something. It just seems like a weird thing to actually mention to the team if you purposely switched into being a Little just to get more sympathy and people going back to your channel.

If she was that desperate to defend her littles like the alter Jade was talking about, she would have had it edited out with no disputes. Also, she was actively fronting as a literally in front of the entire crowd at disney world, where literally anyone can be. She clearly wasn’t afraid of them fronting and making out with little nan in public, sooo don’t really understand the sternness behind wanting hiding them diligently.

 

[heterotic]

I’d love to have someone from Anthony’s team verify this or something.

She's contradicted herself on this, too. Even on camera, you see Anthony ask her if they should stop filming and if she needs a break. She reiterated afterward (I don't remember where) that he was so kind, respectful, and wasn't pushy at all. The idea that he pushed her into using footage of her "child alter" doesn't make sense.

Okay, I'm just gonna say anyone who's been even near UEA knows the reputation that lake has for suicides/drunk accidents ending in death. Pretty much every student has someone in their cohort who died that way and that is why Nin threw herself in there- for attention, knowing it would cause the panic it did among their peers.

A classmate of hers said this as well. (Also, if you didn't see, they were in a group chat together and she was quite literally taking credit for being the girl missing in the lake and laughing about it the following day.)

Don't worry, there is more info coming

SPEAK OF THE DEVIL AND HE SHALL APPEAR

 

[HighOnLife]

Also, if Chloe and Nan both were faking DID when they met, did they both start their relationship soley believing they would get more views dating another system? Did they both know it was fake?

Do all DIDtubers know they’re faking it and it’s just some deep conspiracy of Larpers taking advantage of tweens, or does everyone just validate each other and try to get away with fooling the entire community?

 

[armonbozial]

She probably wanted to see the footage to ensure she didn't look too fake when switching.

You can tell in any video she has with multiple people and all livestreams, whether it is her own or someone else's that she is in, that she spends an ungodly amount of the time staring at herself and how she looks. More than the average person who is potentially preoccupied with how their hair is, or even someone who has body image issues and is hyperaware of how they appear. Not so visible in the vids where she has complete control over editing and filming but painfully apparent in the others. It is horribly transparent.

 

[NoWords]

Also, if Chloe and Nan both were faking DID when they met, did they both start their relationship soley believing they would get more views dating another system? Did they both know it was fake?

Do all DIDtubers know they’re faking it and it’s just some deep conspiracy of Larpers taking advantage of tweens, or does everyone just validate each other and try to get away with fooling the entire community?

In my opinion, they are all living in a delusional land playing make believe. I doubt anyone would admit that their "system" is fake.

As for Nan and Chloe's relationship, I honestly don't care.

 

[A_right_horrorshow]

Having once been a fan and now having dived deep into this thread I definitely think she doesn’t have it.
But I guess the lie is so deep at this point there are a few things that make it feel like she’s just taking advantage of an illness she has convinced herself is real.

I know with the Anthony Padilla interview Chloe had a moment where a little fronted. It’s fake as hell, and obviously weird since she has claimed before to never be ok exposing littles to the public. However, in her livestream after this incident she claims that right after being filmed she asked if she could see the footage and have them edit out the moment a little fronted, and Anthony had to persuade her to let them use it while removing the name.

I’d love to have someone from Anthony’s team verify this or something. It just seems like a weird thing to actually mention to the team if you purposely switched into being a Little just to get more sympathy and people going back to your channel.

As you were once a fan yourself, over your time watching this bullshitter there must have been plenty of times where you doubted or questioned what you were seeing portrayed as reality. What made you see the light and finally stop supporting this nonsense? Were you too afraid to call out her obvious lies because you knew you'd instantly get dogpiled by the ones seeking approval from Chloe so that made it easier to overlook her behaviour? I'm just curious as to why so many were willing to jump ship within a matter of 24 hours. Did it help knowing there was finally a place to go and openly discuss doubts without having to prepare for a inevitable barrage of Borg LARPers if you'd brought it up elsewhere?

 

[HighOnLife]

The idea that he pushed her into using footage of her "child alter" doesn't make sense.

She claimed he said something like “Do what you want but I think it was really powerful and raw and it might be important for viewers to see this side of DID.”
But I think NoWords is right, it was probably just a ploy to get access to the footage to make sure she looked authentic.

Edit: Quoting in an edit is weird so imma treat this like reddit.
Horrorshow:
I basically believed her cause I used to be interested in the whole DIDtuber world cause it’s interesting, and anytime shit seemed fake,

(Jade always gave it away to me and a lot of the public shit was weird. Like, she claims she can completely fool ANYBODY to thinking she’s normal and then goes into public, and during intense stress completely switches out to an obnoxious alter.)

She usually had some lukewarm explanation I bought cause I generally give the benefit of the doubt.
I kinda just wrote it off as “Obviously this is bullshit, but these people make up backstories and personas for their alters to try and have more control of their mental state when they dissociate and it’s just a cutesy therapy tool to break the amnesia.”

this whole scandal with Trisha and now this kiwifarms thread really opened my eyes. The fact they there are blatant and provable lies in these stories makes it way easier to discredit.

TLDR: I trusted them because why not, and assumed they were just trying to visualize the way their brain worked. I never believed alters were actual fully fledged people, and the community made it hard to ever even ask questions that seemed critical.

 

[generalsneezus]

Also, if Chloe and Nan both were faking DID when they met, did they both start their relationship soley believing they would get more views dating another system? Did they both know it was fake?

Could be true, I mean like I mentioned early look at how many views that got in the couples videos like the ones where Nan did chloe’s makeup. It’s very common for celebrities/singers to band up to gang exposure and monetary value (beyonce/jay-z and literally almost all kardashian relationships), so I think in at least Chloe’s mind, the benefits of having a partner with DID would expand their scope and relevance.

Also, to me, if someone else has/is claiming to have DID, they’re a lot less likely to question her diagnosis or lifestyle at all. They’re also not as likely to get fed up with un-productivity and immature behavior as chloe’s previous partners did, because by making youtube their job that’s essentially all they’re doing.

She claimed he said something like “Do what you want but I think it was really powerful and raw and it might be important for viewers to see this side of DID.”
But I think NoWords is right, it was probably just a ploy to get access to the footage to make sure she looked authentic.

Anthony didn’t make either of the other two front any littles, so I doubt he really minded if she wanted the clips included or not.

However, look at the comments and how much they sympathize with the little, especially when the little started crying. Heavy appeal to emotion, which is what sways an audience. And Chloe’s channel has skyrocketed after that and the trisha paytas falling out. She pretty much has almost 800k subscribers

 

[heterotic]

She claimed he said something like “Do what you want but I think it was really powerful and raw and it might be important for viewers to see this side of DID.”

Oh, I know. I've not watched any of his other content, but during that video he didn't strike me as someone who is manipulative. This sounds like something Chloe would say, though, based on the horrifying autistic amount of footage I have no consumed of her.

 

[randomtranny]

Also, if Chloe and Nan both were faking DID when they met, did they both start their relationship soley believing they would get more views dating another system? Did they both know it was fake?

Do all DIDtubers know they’re faking it and it’s just some deep conspiracy of Larpers taking advantage of tweens, or does everyone just validate each other and try to get away with fooling the entire community?

The concept of "partner systems" is pretty popular, and probably Chloe knows that anyone who legit has D.I.D. would call her out on her bullshit in a heartbeat and dump her. So dating another malingerer solves that issue. That's my take on it at least

Hope that answered your question.

 

[cyberphobe]

Hope that answered your question.

imo it would be in Nan's best interest to drop Chloe, would it not? As a true DID system would do the same and break up with Chloe, wouldn't Nan, to get back at Chloe and expose her as "not being real" and "faking" or some other thing such as dropping texts showing Chloe knew about the CP? I don't know how Nan is right now, but it's probably most likely going to make Nan look bad, but also bring Chloe down with them.

 

[generalsneezus]

(Jade always gave it away to me and a lot of the public shit was weird. Like, she claims she can completely fool ANYBODY to thinking she’s normal and then goes into public, and during intense stress completely switches out to an obnoxious alter.)

Jade as an alter always confused me. I remember in the meet the alters video she said she doesn’t even like being involved in the channel. However, my theory is that whenever the hate (really just people being understandably doubtful towards the lack of scientific evidence and clear transparency the channel garners) floods in, Chloe knows she has to invoke apprehension among the people somehow.
And the people could care less how disrespected they may be by Jade when she calls them naive, unaware or distrustful (even though many in the audience have survived csa so they are aware), Jade is just such a coollll and mysteriousss alter that anyone listening to her voice must adhere. If Jade dislikes the channel so much, why is she the main one who has to speak out against hate? Because the impressionable audience kNoWs that when Jade comes out, its a very very very serious matter that everyoneee has to listen to.

 

[NoWords]

imo it would be in Nan's best interest to drop Chloe, would it not? As a true DID system would do the same and break up with Chloe, wouldn't Nan, to get back at Chloe and expose her as "not being real" and "faking" or some other thing such as dropping texts showing Chloe knew about the CP? I don't know how Nan is right now, but it's probably most likely going to make Nan look bad, but also bring Chloe down with them.

Chloe has already dropped Nan. Nothing is going to help Nan, she is done and already looks like an absolute piece of human shit. It's far too late for her.

I certainly hope that her doing something of that sort wouldn't "help" her with the DID followers. Nothing will change the fact that she is a pedophile.

 

[feelings]

Chloe's got the look