Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[heterotic]

Hope that answered your question.

Anyone with "legit DID" wouldn't have ever believed she had DID in the first place given that literally every reputable professional says that there are only fragments of a whole identity and not full alternate identities with their own life stories.

Jade as an alter always confused me. I remember in the meet the alters video she said she doesn’t even like being involved in the channel. However, my theory is that whenever the hate (really just people being understandably doubtful towards the lack of scientific evidence and clear transparency the channel garners) floods in, Chloe knows she has to invoke apprehension among the people somehow.
And the people could care less how disrespected they may be by Jade when she calls them naive, unaware or distrustful (even though many in the audience have survived csa so they are aware), Jade is just such a coollll and mysteriousss alter that anyone listening to her voice must adhere. If Jade dislikes the channel so much, why is she the main one who has to speak out against hate? Because the impressionable audience kNoWs that when Jade comes out, its a very very very serious matter that everyoneee has to listen to.

The meet the alters videos are all just the most glaringly obviously bullshit that I have ever seen. Just full archetypes. Nina was the one where I was just like okay, this is fucking ludicrous. Ruby and Jade were just like the last straw. It was the third video of her's I tried to watch with an open mind (and believe me, IT WAS WIDE FUCKING OPEN) and well, the next thing I did was type her name in KF to see if anyone else thought she was a cow.

Anyone who actually watched that and thought wow, how tragic for her to have this debilitating disorder is sincerely one of the dumbest motherfuckers on this planet.

 

[generalsneezus]

She claimed he said something like “Do what you want but I think it was really powerful and raw and it might be important for viewers to see this side of DID.”
But I think NoWords is right, it was probably just a ploy to get access to the footage to make sure she looked authentic.

Edit: Quoting in an edit is weird so imma treat this like reddit.
Horrorshow:
I basically believed her cause I used to be interested in the whole DIDtuber world cause it’s interesting, and anytime shit seemed fake,

(Jade always gave it away to me and a lot of the public shit was weird. Like, she claims she can completely fool ANYBODY to thinking she’s normal and then goes into public, and during intense stress completely switches out to an obnoxious alter.)

She usually had some lukewarm explanation I bought cause I generally give the benefit of the doubt.
I kinda just wrote it off as “Obviously this is bullshit, but these people make up backstories and personas for their alters to try and have more control of their mental state when they dissociate and it’s just a cutesy therapy tool to break the amnesia.”

this whole scandal with Trisha and now this kiwifarms thread really opened my eyes. The fact they there are blatant and provable lies in these stories makes it way easier to discredit.

TLDR: I trusted them because why not, and assumed they were just trying to visualize the way their brain worked. I never believed alters were actual fully fledged people, and the community made it hard to ever even ask questions that seemed critical.

imo it would be in Nan's best interest to drop Chloe, would it not? As a true DID system would do the same and break up with Chloe, wouldn't Nan, to get back at Chloe and expose her as "not being real" and "faking" or some other thing such as dropping texts showing Chloe knew about the CP? I don't know how Nan is right now, but it's probably most likely going to make Nan look bad, but also bring Chloe down with them.

Anyone with "legit DID" wouldn't have ever believed she had DID in the first place given that literally every reputable professional says that there are only fragments of a whole identity and not full alternate identities with their own life stories.

Exactly, like these alters have backstories, families, different races and cultures. Someone earlier on posted MULTIPLE images of experts confirming that DID is more so fragments of a whole rather than entirely different individuals. Even though Chloe can say with her entire two-month-long psychology undergrad experienced chest that alters are and I quote “their own individuals and should be treated as such.” Not to mention for the 26388392 time she has no source or personal degree to back this.
I’m very thankful for this thread because I briefly bought into Chloe’s channel, but the surplus of logical conclusions and inferences make me realize how many delusions are involved. And I think the major thing is a LOT of the viewers have never even researched or maybe even heard of DID before, so that makes them all the more impressionable.

 

[NoWords]

I am absolutely horrified at the amount of people who still ask about Nan and her well being. It blows me away that people wonder if they should only blame Nan or blame the entire system.

I see no difference. It was her physical hands that drew those disgusting pictures, regardless of who she says was in control at that time.

It is shocking to see how many people are more worried about the pedophile than being worried about the ideal that Nan could have done way worse that has yet to surface. I will never understand the logic of any of that.

ETA: Honestly, if nothing more comes of Chloe, I will be satisfied knowing that this forum exposed a potentially dangerous predator.

 

[Becomingablueberry]

At UEA it's well known by all students: you swim in the lake, you get kicked out

 

[generalsneezus]

The Nina alter intro was painful the watch. Like the fact that she acted so blatantly sultry and sexual, and the fact that I’ve seen a lot of sexual alters act this way in other systems, confounds me. Like even just the voice she made with Nina...wth.

Of course, the audience was loving how mysterious and flirtatious she was. And again, the Ruby alter was even insulting the channel in explicit mannerisms, like why is she filming if she doesn’t want to? Why would fans stand by an alter calling the channel stupid if Chloe put “so much hard work into it”?? Chloe LITERALLY told Trisha you shouldn’t insult other alters, when Ruby just insulted Chloe’s whole career. Make it make sense pleasee.

The Nina alter intro was painful the watch. Like the fact that she acted so blatantly sultry and sexual, and the fact that I’ve seen a lot of sexual alters act this way in other systems, confounds me. Like even just the voice she made with Nina...wth.

Of course, the audience was loving how mysterious and flirtatious she was. And again, the Ruby alter was even insulting the channel in explicit mannerisms, like why is she filming if she doesn’t want to? Why would fans stand by an alter calling the channel stupid if Chloe put “so much hard work into it”?? Chloe LITERALLY told Trisha you shouldn’t insult other alters, when Ruby just insulted Chloe’s whole career. Make it make sense pleasee.

edit: Don’t know why I accidentally deleted the original response, I’m stupid. But yeah, MULTIPLE experts themselves (as seen earlier in this thread) have said DID alters are not really individual people, but fragments of a whole. This puts the fact that alters have different races, cultures, background stories, and families into question. Yet Chloe, who has no degree and rarely cites sources, hoes around telling people, and I quote, “your alters are definitely individuals and should be treated as such.” Hate to break it to her but no matter how egocentric and self-entitled you are, two months of psych education does not put you higher than medical professionals. Good day.

 

[Pikapikaboo]

I read the entire thread and there's one thing I wanted to point out that I didn't notice anyone else saying.
(I could be wrong because binge -reading 146+ pages in the span of two days could mean I missed something)
One thing that I see repeated over and over and over and ooooover again is that because Chloe has seemingly loving parents and had a good home life she can't have had childhood trauma/abuse.
False. (sorry my fictive Dwight from the office was fronting *that was a joke to be clear *)
But seriously there are too many cases of abuse happening outside of the home that the parents had no idea of. Kids don't know how to communicate these things. "Uncle Bob always plays weird games with me" etc. These days as a society I think we're more hyper-vigilant in that regard. But in the past not so much.
Chloe being a fraud and the possibility that someone had loving parents who were unaware of their abuse are not mutually exclusive things.
Speaking of Dr. Grande, (who I discovered through his latest Trisha paytas did videos ) I loved what he said regarding dissocadids channel and science in general that if you have a theory or belief you need to try and disprove it not just cherry-pick evidence to prove it.
Clutching into every little thing that proves your D. I. D is just as bad and clutching onto to every little thing that corroborates that Nin is a fraud. Imo

Tl;dr unfortunately many children are abused outside of the home and without their parents knowledge. Even if Chloe is lying about it in her situation.

 

[heterotic]

The Nina alter intro was painful the watch. Like the fact that she acted so blatantly sultry and sexual, and the fact that I’ve seen a lot of sexual alters act this way in other systems, confounds me. Like even just the voice she made with Nina...wth.

I mean aside from the ridiculous blatant misunderstanding of hypersexuality, it was also offensive as fuck to sexual abuse survivors who actually developed hypersexuality as a result of their trauma.

Literally just being a walking sex operator-voiced stereotype, saying you're well suited to be sexually assaulted???

One thing that I see repeated over and over and over and ooooover again is that because Chloe has seemingly loving parents and had a good home life she can't have had childhood trauma/abuse.

No one said is that you couldn't have had childhood trauma or any abuse at all when you also say (and people from your life confirm) you had and still have a good homelife and relationship with your parents.

We have said that the type, frequency, and volume of the trauma required to develop a dissociative disorder (which, to be clear, means that it was more traumatic and for a more sustained period of time than that of what people who develop PTSD experience), you would have to have extremely neglectful parents AND teachers/counselors.

As said in this thread previously, evidence of childhood sexual abuse (which is overwhelmingly the most common cause of dissociative disorders) begins presenting itself right away. This is either in the form of severe behavioral problems, an obsession and knowledge of sex beyond what is normal, issues with the bathroom (wetting the bed, or phobia or obsession with bathrooms, etc), in females - early puberty activation, or physical evidence (or all of the above). Unless a parent is completely absent (neglectful), a perpetrator, or an enabler, at least ONE of these things would be noticed.

You cannot have parents that worry desperately about you and love you so much to ensure you have a happy, carefree childhood not see that you are being serially abused. There are side effects. It's one of the reasons disorganized attachment from your primary caregivers is a requirement. They either have to have been involved, or been neglectful for a child to literally disconnect from themselves and reality.

Clutching into every little thing that proves your D. I. D is just as bad and clutching onto to every little thing that corroborates that Nin is a fraud.

Last time I checked, no one here is appropriating vague, shifting trauma and faux disorders for money and internet fame, so your opinion here is a bit flimsy. A lot of people that have been looking into this for weeks never doubted her before they started digging. This isn't confirmation bias. I went on a journey of my own in learning about how memories work and identities form, and if you took the time to read everything plenty of us have, you'd realize that our views have shifted over time with the collection of new information.

We don't all believe exactly the same things about Chloe, or Nan, for that matter, but I doubt anyone's viewpoint started with "all of this is bullshit" and has stayed "all of this is bullshit".

 

[A_right_horrorshow]

At UEA it's well known by all students: you swim in the lake, you get kicked out

Ahhh! Things are beginning to make a bit more sense chronologically. She knows she was probably going to be in the shit for taking a dip so it becomes a "Totes real suicide" attempt then she starts assimilating DID traits so if she does get expelled she can play the "I was kicked out because of muh mentul helth" angle.

 

[NoWords]

Chloe has seemingly loving parents and had a good home life she can't have had childhood trauma/abuse.
False.

This has been covered and talked about in the thread.

Clutching into every little thing that proves your D. I. D is just as bad and clutching onto to every little thing that corroborates that Nin is a fraud. Imo

False. Sifting through the inconsistencies and bullshit is how the truth comes out. That's just logic.

 

[lamp]

But seriously there are too many cases of abuse happening outside of the home that the parents had no idea of. Kids don't know how to communicate these things.

first, it has to happen before the age of 5.
Second, it’s not just “uncle X touched me and now I have DID.”
It’s severe severe trauma, similar to that of what a front-line soldier goes through. Of course childhood sexual abuse can cause dissociation and ptsd, but it’s not the same level as DID.

 

[Cosmos]

I'm still getting caught up on the thread but I have to comment on this:

I hate to double post but I reached the word count with the last post. Anyway, there should be no more confusion from newcomers who can't be bothered to pick through the thread for this information if it's all gathered in one spot. Thanks to everyone who contributed with sources. Probably could have gone with a paste bin but it's so much easier to fill in the links here.

Spoiler: Chloe's Alters

† Chloe was the original host and a protector in the system. She was responsible for creating the DissociaDID channel. She was initially bisexual though later identified as pansexual. She identified with the age of the body though she did have the ability to age-slide. Chloe suffered from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. She was in a relationship with Nan from Team Piñata. Chloe integrated with Nina in September 2019 to form Nin.

Nin is the current host of the system. She is the result of Chloe and Nina integrating in September 2019. Nin has the memories of Chloe and Nina She initially identified with the name Chloe, though changed her name to Nin shortly after her integration. Nin identifies with the age of the body which is currently 23 though she is able to age-slide. Nin is pansexual. She is currently engaged to Nan from Team Piñata. She is in a sexual relationship with Riven a teenage werecat from the same system.

Kyle is the primary protector. Initially, he was 18 but has recently aged up to 19. He has been around since Chloe was four, five, or six, depending on which source you consult. He does not like labels but if forced to choose would describe himself as pansexual. He considers himself a 'father figure' to the system although he used to 'hate' Chloe. He is a caucasian male. He believes he has blue eyes whilst Chloe thinks they are green. He speaks with a strong cockney accent. He likes memes, food, and Bastille. He is in a relationship with Jeremy from Team Piñata though he spends the majority of his time flirting with DissociaDIDs fans.

Jade is a protector and gatekeeper in the system. She is an asexual homoromantic female who does not have an age. When she first appeared in the system, she was 11. She aged for a while but now identifies as ageless and does not believe she will age in the future. As a child, Jade was very religious and 'god fearing'. Jade is described as 'very very' slender as a result of her eating disorder. She has long black hair and green eyes. She wears long black dresses with tights and a girdle.
Jade first appeared in the cave within the inner world. She felt concerned but mostly tired and confused. A woman named Margaret came to visit Jade in order to explain her role. Margaret was an old slender woman with grey hair. Margaret told Jade that she was her Mother. She told Jade that she was also named Margaret, though Jade rejected this name and chose the name Jade with the help of 'somebody on the outside'. Margaret gave Jade a necklace. She told Jade that the necklace must never leave the cave. The necklace had the power to keep the people in the inner world safe. If the necklace left the cave, then evil spirits would enter the inner world. As a result, Jade wears the necklace constantly. Margaret left the cave. Ruby stepped in to raise Jade.
Jade is able to control the memories inside the system. She is the only alter to have access to the carousel in the inner world. She does not hold any trauma but she is aware of all of the trauma experienced by the system due to her role as gatekeeper. Jade believes that online predators are likely to target the littles within the system. She enjoys rustic bread and soup which she cooks in a cauldron in her cave.

† Nina was a sexual protector. She was a female of indeterminate age though she described herself as legal. She claimed that she did not have 'dark skin like Nadia' but she had a darker skin tone than Chloe. She was an aromantic pansexual who preferred women. Nina held the majority of Chloe's sexual trauma. She believed that men would not hurt her if they thought they had a chance of having sex with her. She appeared in the system after Chloe's first sexual experience which was non-consensual. She claimed that she had been around 'for a while'. She integrated with Chloe in September 2019 to form Nin.

Sally is a protector, caretaker, and gatekeeper. She is a slender woman who age slides between 24 and 27. She identifies as heterosexual. She formed in order to comfort Chloe during her panic attacks. Sally lives in a greenhouse in the inner world and enjoys gardening. She takes care of the littles and often sits in a rocking chair. She has never been attracted to any of Chloe's partners as they have all been feminine. She likes salad and the film Titanic.

Nadia is the spiritual protector. She is a 17 year old pansexual slender female who does not age. She has been 17 for a while. She describes herself as the embodiment of sunshine and represents the freedom Chloe did not get in her childhood. Nadia is a Native American with dark skin. She wears her hair in braids and is drawn wearing traditional dress. Nadia has memories of a past life including a family prior to becoming a part of Chloe's system. She collects crystals and rune stones, and is interested in aromatherapy. Nadia has a great deal of energy which can drain the body as Chloe suffers from chronic fatigue syndrome. She holds relationship trauma from Chloe's teenage years. She suffers from depression. Nadia was in a relationship with Leslie from Team Piñata. Leslie 'died' by integrating with Ace in August 2019. Nadia was in a relationship with Lacy until early 2020 when Lacy integrated again. Lacy is currently in a coma and has split into Wendy, an animatronic doll. It is unclear whether Nadia is in a relationship with Wendy.

Jake is a fragment in the system and the 'younger' brother of Kyle despite being listed as 24 years old. He takes the form of a caucasian man who does not age. He describes himself as a straight male in his Meet The Alters video though he was earlier described as both asexual and homosexual on Twitter. He does not front often but when he does he is responsible for health and hygiene. He is a fan of the band Set It Off.

Gregory is an emotional protector. He identifies as a straight male in his late forties. He describes himself as Asian who is balding. He suffers from anorexia. He does not like music but he likes some films. He does not have much time for fun. He is anxious and paranoid. Gregory lives in a cabin in the forest within the inner world.

Ruby is a former persecutor turned physical protector. She is a butch lesbian woman in her 30s. She has been told that she resembles Red from Orange is The New Black. She has a scar on the side of her face. Ruby is a former self harmer. She has a high pain threshold and would be the alter to front if the body was physically attacked. Ruby is a trauma holder who will never talk about the trauma she holds. She enjoys playing with the littles in the system. For some reason, she insists that she is not a murderer.

Omega is a trauma holder. She is a female ghost. She describes herself as gray in colour and very malnourished. She has very long straight hair and abrasions around her neck. She is triggered by cold temperatures, ropes, and forests. She formed as a result of Chloe's suicide attempt in December 2016. She lives in the forest in the inner world. She was initially a 'locked' alter who was trapped in a trauma flashback.

Mike is a trauma holder. He is male and unwilling to share his age. His role in the system is minor. He does not know what his sexuality is. His likes pizza, crisps, and nuts.

Dark is a persecutor and fragment. His physical form is heavily distorted. When drawing himself, Dark appears as a humanoid shape with black skin and black eyes. He is described as the colour black rather than the race. He has a wound on his forehead that appears to have damaged his skull. He is one of the first alters that Chloe became aware of. He appears to Chloe as a shadow or swirling mist. She describes him as 'broken glass'. Chloe does not trust Dark to appear on the channel. He has described Chloe as a 'horrible person' who 'deserves to die'. Dark enjoys art.

Connor/Callum is a persecutor and protector. He formed in March 2020 following the traumatic experience of watching a Trisha Paytas video. Connor/Callum identifies as a male with curly brown hair. As a child, Chloe felt comforted by the name Connor. She appreciated the symmetry of the name and used it for several original characters.

Amira is a non-human alter. She is a fictive based on Kisa Sohma from the anime Fruits Basket. Amira is an age sliding alter though she spends the majority of her time in her 'small' state. Chloe did not know Amira existed until she appeared in a video with Sally. She is described as very affectionate and very shy. She speaks with a hard to identify accent though it sounds a touch racist. Amira is friendly with Riven from Team Piñata who is a werecat though Riven felt territorial during their first meeting. She likes the colour orange.

Glass is a protector in the system and a non-human fairy alter. Her wings and hair are made out of shattered glass. She provides aftercare for alters who have experienced flashbacks. She lives in the forest in the inner world. Her job is to protect 'locked' alters who are lost in the forest.

The Mainframe is a non-human alter described as 'code' or 'a computer'. It lives in the basement. The Mainframe occasionally writes notes in the system journal. It is described as an overseeing presence that works with Jade. It was introduced in 'Making Our Inner World! - Sims 4 | Dissociative Identity Disorder'.

Murmer is a trauma holder. She is a non-human alter who identifies as a mermaid. Murmer is very secretive and very traumatised. She appeared following trauma around Halloween and the winter period. She lives in the river in the inner world.

Mute is a locked alter. His mouth is sewn shut as he was warned against discussing his trauma. He keeps his trauma a secret.

Laura is a little. Her name was inadvertently revealed in 'INSIDE MY DIARY?! Organising Life With Dissociative Identity Disorder'.

Sarah is a little. Her name was inadvertently revealed in 'INSIDE MY DIARY?! Organising Life With Dissociative Identity Disorder'.

Z___ is an unknown little. Their initial was inadvertently revealed in 'INSIDE MY DIARY?! Organising Life With Dissociative Identity Disorder'.

Squiggle is a fragment listed in 'INSIDE MY DIARY?! Organising Life With Dissociative Identity Disorder'.

Unnamed Scientist is an alter discovered in May 2019. She is female and was in contact with Nina. She describes herself as a neuroscientist and microbiologist.

Unnamed Fragments are an indeterminate number of 'locked' alters who are trapped in the basement of the inner world. They were briefly mentioned in 'Making Our Inner World! - Sims 4 | Dissociative Identity Disorder'. These alters are 'bent backwards over beer barrels' or 'chained to walls' or 'in small areas of liquid' or 'on tables'. These alters do not speak and do not seem to be aware of their surroundings. Chloe describes some fragments as having had their mouths sewn shut and their eyes removed.

This is some Silmarillion-esque bullshit. The description of these many, many alters literally reads like a YA fantasy novel. There are actual arcs and plot twists and mermaids and ghosts and shit. This is unbelievable. I cannot believe it.

Once again, I'm floored that literally hundreds of thousands of people have bought into this. My only explanation is that Chloe's fans are either mentally ill and out of touch with reality and/or are actual children whose brains have not developed enough yet to see how stupid and unrealistic this all is. I'm leaning towards most of her fanbase being the latter, because it seems like whenever someone or something is inexplicably popular (Onision, Jake Paul, etc) it's because most of their fans are naive children.

 

[generalsneezus]

I mean aside from the ridiculous blatant misunderstanding of hypersexuality, it was also offensive as fuck to sexual abuse survivors who actually developed hypersexuality as a result of their trauma.

Literally just being a walking sex operator-voiced stereotype, saying you're well suited to be sexually assaulted???

Pretty much everything Chloe does is offensive to people who have experienced these immensely traumatic things. Another reason I wish either licensed psychiatrists/psychologists or people who have been genuinely and legitimately been diagnosed with DID would speak out and give a video analysis of this content

Ahhh! Things are beginning to make a bit more sense chronologically. She knows she was probably going to be in the shit for taking a dip so it becomes a "Totes real suicide" attempt then she starts assimilating DID traits so if she does get expelled she can play the "I was kicked out because of muh mentul helth" angle.

Exxxxactly. And the fact that she was “lol-ing” about it shortly after it happened, even though she attempted suicide 4 times in 24 hours, girl why are you not in a psychiatric ward on suicide watch. You have genuinely concerned friends here yet still make it into a jocular thing, even though everyone according to sources on this forum were warned not to go near the lake or they may face expulsion.

 

[NoWords]

Of course childhood sexual abuse can cause dissociation and ptsd, but it’s not the same level as DID.

I'm going to be really clear when I say this. I have no belief in DID, that being said, I strongly disagree with this statement.

 

[turtleneckfish]

I'm still getting caught up on the thread but I have to comment on this:



This is some Silmarillion-esque bullshit. The description of these many, many alters literally reads like a YA fantasy novel. There are actual arcs and plot twists and mermaids and ghosts and shit. This is unbelievable. I cannot believe it.

Once again, I'm floored that literally hundreds of thousands of people have bought into this. My only explanation is that Chloe's fans are either mentally ill and out of touch with reality and/or are actual children whose brains have not developed enough yet to see how stupid and unrealistic this all is. I'm leaning towards most of her fanbase being the latter, because it seems like whenever someone or something is inexplicably popular (Onision, Jake Paul, etc) it's because most of their fans are naive children.

my guess is : tons of depressed and anxiety riddled teens that find the topic super interesting and appealing. I think at page 136 or something along the lines there was someone already stating that the combination of "symptoms" like having a ficitive protector and stuff is something teens would be super interested in to flee reality.

tho with that being said I watched her videos too, merely out of interest and stopped watching them pretty fast after watching the meet the alter stuff.
I think a lot of people just stumble over it thanks to the recommended section on youtube. I think I watched multiplicity and me first and then got to the goth chic and then to Chloe.
but honestly aside from the ridiculous meet the alters it was nans appearance and channel that especially hammered home how much bullshit this is.

EDIT: its basically a huge rabbit hole, on that note I found it super interesting that the first things I saw with MultiandMe was that her alters pretended to be her and then I saw Chloes videos and was super confused that she didn't even mention anything like that. Like the whole purpose of her channel is to flesh out her OCs, their role and their backstory.. so fucking weird.

 

[generalsneezus]

I'm going to be really clear when I say this. I have no belief in DID, that being said, I strongly disagree with this statement.

Considering that it’s so similar to other disorders (ptsd, dissociative amnesia, bpd), has many topics no experts can unanimously agree on, and is fabricated and sensationalized by people online, I see where you’re coming from. However, I think some children actually experience such extreme trauma, dissociative survival mechanisms are the only resort they have. Of course, this doesn’t include fursona ocs and puff the magic dragon hybrids adventuring through their wild, hogwarts style mansions and choosing when new alters can appear or disperse.

 

[randomtranny]

I'm going to be really clear when I say this. I have no belief in DID, that being said, I strongly disagree with this statement.

I'm gonna say this, even if it's painfully obvious she's faking, let's give her the benefit of the doubt. Let's say she has crippling childhood trauma and dissociated to a high level as a child. By her own logic, she's missing one of the three requirements she recites like a Bible verse. She didn't have disordered attachments to her primary caregivers aka her parents. She's always on about how they've always been supportive. By her own admission, she's missing one of the requirements.

 

[Cooking Mama]

how the heck can a cat alter know how to talk? Much less have a cognitive understanding of topic like that? Cats literally have the brain capacity of 2-3 year olds.

What, you guys don’t have cats that talk? Fucking singlet normies. My cats and I talk all the time and they totally agree that Chloe and Nan are bullshit.

 

[heterotic]

I'm still getting caught up on the thread but I have to comment on this:



This is some Silmarillion-esque bullshit. The description of these many, many alters literally reads like a YA fantasy novel. There are actual arcs and plot twists and mermaids and ghosts and shit. This is unbelievable. I cannot believe it.

Once again, I'm floored that literally hundreds of thousands of people have bought into this. My only explanation is that Chloe's fans are either mentally ill and out of touch with reality and/or are actual children whose brains have not developed enough yet to see how stupid and unrealistic this all is. I'm leaning towards most of her fanbase being the latter, because it seems like whenever someone or something is inexplicably popular (Onision, Jake Paul, etc) it's because most of their fans are naive children.

I found a "system" that had a website for their alters that had 62 pages of content explaining everyone in their "system" and their relationships.

It had a fucking TABLE OF CONTENTS.

What, you guys don’t have cats that talk? Fucking singlet normies. My cats and I talk all the time and they totally agree that Chloe and Nan are bullshit.

Mama's on the booze again

 

[turtleneckfish]

Considering that it’s so similar to other disorders (ptsd, dissociative amnesia, bpd), has many topics no experts can unanimously agree on, and is fabricated and sensationalized by people online, I see where you’re coming from. However, I think some children actually experience such extreme trauma, dissociative survival mechanisms are the only resort they have. Of course, this doesn’t include fursona ocs and puff the magic dragon hybrids adventuring through their wild, hogwarts style mansions and choosing when new alters can appear or disperse.

children will flee into their inner world, when being exposed to prelonged abuse. at least I heard that from people experiencing it during their childhood, cause they would go insane if not going there and spiraling into their fantasy to blend out reality. PTSD for sure, no DID tho.

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What, you guys don’t have cats that talk? Fucking singlet normies. My cats and I talk all the time and they totally agree that Chloe and Nan are bullshit.

ngl, a bit disappointed that the cat alter did not use a litter box

EDIT: A shit doublepost, didn't load properly, I'm sorry ;x;

 

[NoWords]

Considering that it’s so similar to other disorders (ptsd, dissociative amnesia, bpd), has many topics no experts can unanimously agree on, and is fabricated and sensationalized by people online, I see where you’re coming from. However, I think some children actually experience such extreme trauma, dissociative survival mechanisms are the only resort they have. Of course, this doesn’t include fursona ocs and puff the magic dragon hybrids adventuring through their wild, hogwarts style mansions and choosing when new alters can appear or disperse.

I disagreed with their statement because of the CSA statement. There are plenty of children who suffer through years of it. You can't say it isn't "bad" enough to cause DID. That's ridiculous.

I just made it clear that I do not really believe in DID as an added piece of information.