Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Super-Chevy454]

Styx vlog about Texas who deployed hydroxychloroquine.

Some comments dropped by various Youtubers gived me some smile today.

My Name
Imagine being so woke that you hope a medication is not effective against the Coronavirus

Rick Astley
That Michigan governor needs to get out of politics and get back in the kitchen. Not my kitchen tho, I wouldn't trust her food at all

Don Gabagoolio
If the drug actually works the democrats are going to take credit for distributing It.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

What is the EU doing to keep people in Spain locked in?

You didn't get the memmo? It ain't just spain. They released a fucking document with demands for countries in the EU to be allowed to lift lockdown. And literally everyone, even germany, is using it as toilet paper. It's fucking gold.

Here's an article in english, not as detailed as the breakdown I saw in spanish but, you know, it's in english:

https://www.euractiv.com/section/coronavirus/news/commission-to-call-for-a-coordinated-eu-exit-from-covid-19-lockdown/

Basically EU bodies wanted to literally take control of everything through even more draconian regulation as to how and when lockdowns are lifted, and no one even cared enough to tell them to go fuck themselves, I've seen not a single official response by any country, they're just straight up ignoring it completely while the globohomos are left screeching in the sideline.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

You didn't get the memmo? It ain't just spain. They released a fucking document with demands for countries in the EU to be allowed to lift lockdown. And literally everyone, even germany, is using it as toilet paper. It's fucking gold.

Here's an article in english, not as detailed as the breakdown I saw in spanish but, you know, it's in english:

https://www.euractiv.com/section/coronavirus/news/commission-to-call-for-a-coordinated-eu-exit-from-covid-19-lockdown/

Basically EU bodies wanted to literally take control of everything through even more draconian regulation as to how and when lockdowns are lifted, and no one even cared enough to tell them to go fuck themselves, I've seen not a single official response by any country, they're just straight up ignoring it completely while the globohomos are left screeching in the sideline.

I saw that more like a recommendation and trying to act as coordinating system, I don't really see any "demands", tbh.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

I saw that more like a recommendation and trying to act as coordinating system, I don't really see any "demands", tbh.

The way they popped up in our media they sure as shit were trying to enforce it. Last I checked suggestions don't come with *ejem*"warnings"*ejem*. Either way the general response by even ol merkel seems to be "is that the wind?" So good fucking luck trying to actually enforce shit. My guess is they didn't bother trying to threaten germany 'cause after the south just straight up ignored them they realized this shit ain't working.

 

[Unog]

You didn't get the memmo? It ain't just spain. They released a fucking document with demands for countries in the EU to be allowed to lift lockdown. And literally everyone, even germany, is using it as toilet paper. It's fucking gold.

Here's an article in english, not as detailed as the breakdown I saw in spanish but, you know, it's in english:

https://www.euractiv.com/section/coronavirus/news/commission-to-call-for-a-coordinated-eu-exit-from-covid-19-lockdown/

Basically EU bodies wanted to literally take control of everything through even more draconian regulation as to how and when lockdowns are lifted, and no one even cared enough to tell them to go fuck themselves, I've seen not a single official response by any country, they're just straight up ignoring it completely while the globohomos are left screeching in the sideline.

Is it just me or does that site have some kind of anti copy+paste thing going on? You can get around it with select all, but that's still pretty weird.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Is it just me or does that site have some kind of anti copy+paste thing going on? You can get around it with select all, but that's still pretty weird.

I don't know, it's the first time I even enter.

Edit: also aomething possibly good by the EU. Weird shit is it was posted a month ago by "el confidencial" and somehow no one fucking talked about this on the media. Which is fucking weird because spanish media can't wait to suck the EU's cock every chance they goet. I've found no corroboration on journalisrs but it seems real.

Seems the EU is liberating some infrastructural banking fund shit they had to fight corona as aid to each country. They still want it to go mostly to healthcare, which... a bit late for that don'tcha think? And the fact that it's infrastructural shit means apñarently the east will be the most benefited, but they did say the econlmy part gotta go to small biz and labor shit, no multinational trickeroo this time, so, this is genuinely good. I still don't think the EU can survive this but it seems at least they're trying. Honestly shit's gonna go down as soon as legislation gets in the way, which will be soon enough, as spain and italy will ram heads with france and the east is gonna be coming for germany, and everyone, and I mean EVERYONE wants netherlands dead. So... I don't know. They'd need some serious changing and balancing to manage to even survive but at least this is the right attitude. Props.

https://www.elconfidencial.com/economia/2020-03-13/union-europea-ayuda-espana-coronavirus_2497384/

 

[cuddle striker]

lol El presidente scared the market so badly last night that even SCI stock went down a few points. (megacorp funeral home/crematory)

Mumbai is about to be an experimental test site.

Here in NW USA things are calm. we are just at limit, hospital wide. that's a slow down, which is good. hoping they keep everything locked down one more month- and open slow as fuck if then.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

lol El presidente scared the market so badly last night that even SCI stock went down a few points. (megacorp funeral home/crematory)

Mumbai is about to be an experimental test site.

Here in NW USA things are calm. we are just at limit, hospital wide. that's a slow down, which is good. hoping they keep everything locked down one more month- and open slow as fuck if then.

How the fuck does a crematory manage to loose stocks during a pandemic?

 

[cuddle striker]

How the fuck does a crematory manage to loose stocks during a pandemic?

when the president incites terrorism and civil war. destabilizing via warfare is the only time sci EVER goes down. it usually goes up when there's disease, down when there's war. it's been climbing all this time, until those few tweets about "liberating" various states. (it did dip along with the rest of the market, but more briefly than most stock)

the military doesn't use their facilities, you see. most public disposal of bodies goes through them though- every funeral home you've ever seen, every cremation.

unless it's military.

 

[Powder Puff Gorl]

The Democrat governors are gonna have a lot of 'splainin to do when they used their powers to STOP people from getting cured by a cheap drug stack. That entire party, thanks to this virus, have turned into a bunch of Crassuses (TL;DR became richest man in Rome by purchasing real estate in literal fire sales... fires that he started).

I'd heard some studies that brought into question its effectiveness, but I guess if bad orange man promotes anything, the media will immediately try to discredit it.

Last night NBC news did report about Remdesivir, hyping it up before the actual report that there's a drug that could be the cure. The report was a bust though, because the doctor they interviewed said there wasn't enough data, adding that "but we have a feeling that it can work". The reporter also made sure to let us idiot viewers know that this wasn't the drug Trump's been talking about, without ever mentioning hydrochloroquine. So basically they did a positive report using the same language and reasoning that they've been crapping on hydrochloroquine for, then throwing Trump in for good measure. Personally I think it would be great if both drugs worked and they found even more treatments, regardless of who is touting them, as long as they work and are safe. I'm not against either drug, just the obvious bias.

I used to think TDS was a bunch of conservative hyperbole, but I've seen enough of it lately to believe it's real.

I did a cursory search to find the report was unable to. I'll search for it later when I have more time.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Are we still at literally zero deaths under 9 worldwide or have we had a couple?

Supposedly a handful.
Though again its not clear whether these were kids who died of COVID, or died of other stuff with COVID also present.

CDC says three kids have died from suspected coronavirus in US as some children get severely sick

Some children have been hospitalized or worse after becoming infected with the coronavirus, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Monday. At least three children have died.

www.cnbc.com

Of course its counting "Children" as under 18, and "suspected COVID" so good reason to doubt

 

[Fareal]

Probably late, but here are some coppers doing what coppers do best during lockdown and threatening to fit a guy up for.... whatever.

https://twitter.com/LancsPolice/status/1251431355663220736

The video is in the replies, I’m an idiot and can’t archive properly.

 

[Never Scored]

Something fucky is going on with the recovery numbers.

According to Worldometer 736,472 out of 2,261,631 or 32% have outcomes. 79% of those recovered 21% of those died.

My local government is saying out of 256 cases, 179 or or 70% have outcomes. More than double. 98.3% are recoveries and 1.7% are deaths.

So what's happening here? Is the local government catching more milder cases that most? Are worldwide recoveries under-reported? Does being a densely populated petri-dish like New York City and getting coofed on on the subway and shit increase the viral load so much outcomes are worse? Any insight?

Something doesn't add up, and like I said before, the government where I am would not be capable over covering up a bunch of deaths given how interconnected everyone is and how gossip goes around so it's not that. If someone is covering something up its a bigger more capable government covering up recoveries for some reason.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I saw that more like a recommendation and trying to act as coordinating system, I don't really see any "demands", tbh.

That's how the EU always salami-slices its way into more control. Jean Monnet called it "engrenage", or one-way gearing. A problem is noticed (or sometimes invented), to which the EU suggests coordinating a common, coordinated response. Then when that coordination isn't forthcoming (and it never is, because member states always work to their own ends) it implements a simple set of regulations that the member states are obliged to translate into national law. This has two effects: it blocks off a sector of law that the EU now claims prime right of legislation within, preventing the national legislatures from enacting new regulations or laws within that sector, and creates a situation in which the individual legislatures' regulatory response to the initial problem is haphazard and inconsistent. That then becomes a new problem that the EU can solve with a unified, EU-level regulatory body. Even if it never gets to the point of an EU regulator, the EU now has primary authority over another regulatory and legislative sector, and national legislatures are deprived of yet more of the reason for the existence. The gears turn another tooth forward and can never be reversed.

Health provision isn't yet an EU competence, but the EU wants it to be. They want a unified health service across the entire Union and no doubt see the current crisis as a means to begin the process of subsuming the national health bodies into a union-wide regulatory framework.

e: that's monnet. two Ns. there's another monet but that guy has no sense of humour.

 

[Allanon]

People are super done here. No protests, just even more ignoring of the orders than they started out with, as the sun comes out and the 'lockdown' drags on. A local restaurant that closed down in the early stages of the response (before there was a lockdown issued) is now 'open for take out', and 'nonessential' businesses that got slips telling them to shut down are getting fed up and reopening. Kids are playing in the streets, people are having barbecues and gathering together to hang out in their front yards, and every time I've gone out to buy something other than at my local hyper paranoid mini mart, the employees I've spoken to have held nothing but disdain for the order. One food place that closed down their 'dine-in' option had the employee just keep me there for 30+ minutes chatting because they were bored, and said they "intend on going tubing this summer no matter what, no one is stopping me". A local mechanic ranted that they were about to reopen completely, because they were sick of waiting on the government to be allowed to work again, while the state workers all continued to get paid no matter what. They didn't like the "we're in this together" rhetoric at all.

Business loan grants have, apparently, been mismanaged in this county and they're all gone already, with not enough left for the local business owners. The police in this particular city are so nice they'll just give you a warning for not having insurance or having expired registration, so likely no one has been harassed at all for ignoring the measures, people who listened were doing it in good faith.

Some older lady I'm Facebook friends with shared this post from some hysterical liberal boomer page. I read through the comments and it's almost scary how many people believe this shit.

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Anyone can do this if they name off some annoying neighbor's kids. This isn't the lolown that she thinks it is.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I managed to get an apple for the first time in two weeks...

Soon as my garden is fixed up, I'm planting an apple tree.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Something fucky is going on with the recovery numbers.

According to Worldometer 736,472 out of 2,261,631 or 32% have outcomes. 79% of those recovered 21% of those died.

My local government is saying out of 256 cases, 179 or or 70% have outcomes. More than double. 98.3% are recoveries and 1.7% are deaths.

So what's happening here? Is the local government catching more milder cases that most? Are worldwide recoveries under-reported? Does being a densely populated petri-dish like New York City and getting coofed on on the subway and shit increase the viral load so much outcomes are worse? Any insight?

Something doesn't add up, and like I said before, the government where I am would not be capable over covering up a bunch of deaths given how interconnected everyone is and how gossip goes around so it's not that. If someone is covering something up its a bigger more capable government covering up recoveries for some reason.

Most people will survive the coof. Obese diabetics with asthma or other lung conditions will have a more severe reaction as will the elderly in nursing homes. The fish tank cleaner with certain antibiotics works well for most seriously ill folks. Vents are a death sentences. CPAP machines delivering oxygen work better, Wearing a mask helps. Some people will die from the China-made virus. Orange Man haters are playing politics so they are not trustworthy sources of information; some may be working for the CCP.

This is what I've taken away from all this so far. Now excuse me I have to updste FO4 so I can hear Liberty Prime since @Gustav Schuchardt linked his video

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

New video from Dr. Campbell International infection rates. tl;dw - more confirmation that there are a lot of asymptomatic carriers and those will bring down the case fatality rate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w7F_hzqIhM

https://archive.vn/wip/ijRZl

He mentions that 100K people turned up for a funeral in Bangladesh, traveling from all over the country and standing very close together. What could possibly go wrong?

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/nation/2020/04/18/thousands-join-janaza-in-brahmanbaria-flouting-social-distancing-rule

https://archive.vn/inoVx

 

[afternoon_tea]

Timing it so that the response is useful and proportionate and people don’t feel it’s pointless/too draconian is key. Whatever is used to handle this needs to be something that can be done for months without crashing the economy or stressing the populace too much.

I haven't seen any articles on it in awhile, but right before this started to hit the west there were some epidemiologists talking about how "soft lockdowns" work better than really strict ones because people will put up with them longer. Sure, we could weld people in their houses, but that won't last and they'll rebel and not put up with any measures.

I am not sure if it will work out, but my state seems to be aiming towards more strategic measures as we start passing the current peak and I think that will work out better.

Most people here seem ok with some kind of measures but they still want to be able to go back to work as soon as they can. They're worried about feeding their families or losing their house, I get mad when I see them treated as ghouls who want everyone to die because they're worried about that.

I have seen a couple people around here who want to completely reopen NOW NOW NOW, but if we do that in this county our hospitals will collapse, it has to be more gradual and strategic. People keep saying "well we're not NYC, it doesn't make sense here" which I think is a little bit of denial, we're an NYC suburb, we're very much in their circle of doom, per capita, we're really not far behind them at all.

 

[Fareal]

Today’s quick laff: