Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[Cooking Mama]

I don't think she lurks. We know she deleted all negative comments on her channel and any that didn't get deleted got jihad'd by her fans. I bet you if she lurked here she would have posted about it by now, and we'd have an influx of whiteknights, and she'd likely turn up herself and make videos about it for the drama points. If Trisha made her split... imagine our impact. It's like a TV show; always needs new plot arcs.
Though, she has to play damage control w/ the Nan issue, so it's possible she may not want to agitate what she sees as a hornet's nest of evidence against her in regards to being aware of Nan's disgusting BS & her own general fakery and manipulation.


To TLDR and reword my point here; I don't think she lurks, because knowing her she would be using this thread's existence to take heat off of the Nan issue while she quietly huddles all that off to the side, and make it seems like Nazi KiwiFarms are coming to Kill Her for having DID.

If Chloe does lurk, I doubt she would want to draw attention to this thread because while there would be WKs, there’s a high chance that other fans will see everything and think she’s faking or, at the very least, start doubting her. We’ve already seen a few cases of fans coming here only to read everything and change their stance on Chloe. Sure, it’s good pity points to talk about this thread and how everyone is so mean and bringing harm to her and the community, but it’s way too much of a risk for her to acknowledge it.

 

[Dubricius]

If Chloe does lurk, I doubt she would want to draw attention to this thread because while there would be WKs, there’s a high chance that other fans will see everything and think she’s faking or, at the very least, start doubting her

Ah yeah, true, I didn't think about that. Someone else pointed out her social media (her mother's I think) was locked after being mentioned here, so she probably at least has someone reporting back to her.

 

[Shrryph1]

If anyone still thinks Chloe is anorexic, you’re nuts. Her little shared thing with all other relevant numbers blurred out should have been all you needed. My whore ass she was weighs 109 lbs.

She’s no twig, withering on the vine thing. That girl is a healthy weight and always has been. She might have an unhealthy relationship with weight and eating, but that does not make one anorexic.

 

[Jackherer]

One thing that's been baffling me. Chloe says she seemingly has no idea about the abuse. However in a screenshot I took from the did FB group. She mentions how she's still living with her abusers??

So she either knows or more likely is just chatting complete and utter bs

 

[comrade666]

If anyone still thinks Chloe is anorexic, you’re nuts. Her little shared thing with all other relevant numbers blurred out should have been all you needed. My whore ass she was weighs 109 lbs.

She’s no twig, withering on the vine thing. That girl is a healthy weight and always has been. She might have an unhealthy relationship with weight and eating, but that does not make one anorexic.

She has a long history of posting obsessively on her personal accounts about her body, her diet, general health and fitness. I've found a few mentions in the UEA chat of her discussing the gym - though at one point she refers to herself as unfit - and similar things that suggest it's a preoccupation for her when combined with her other posting habits.

You can see in that Tik Tok where she was dancing (last one under the spoiler) that she has a pretty small frame at the moment. She isn't underweight by any means but she is notably thin for an English girl. She does have some form of disordered eating in my opinion, but no, she isn't underweight.

One thing that's been baffling me. Chloe says she seemingly has no idea about the abuse. However in a screenshot I took from the did FB group. She mentions how she's still living with her abusers??

So she either knows or more likely is just chatting complete and utter bs

The latter. She inconsistently claims to have no memory of her childhood abuse but she has consistently claimed to be aware of trauma in her teenage years. Occasionally, as you've spotted, she heavily implies that her parents abused her, whilst in other videos she states that they have no idea what caused the abuse and are just as worried and desperate to find the truth. She can't keep her story straight.

 

[DissociaDONT]

As with her alleged-burning (as I mentioned before), I believe this may be something 'inspired' by Helen Jamieson/Alice's book. She was having flashback memories of ritual type abuse and her father taking her to a castle for it to happen.

Spoiler: The Truth

She discovered in later life that it was actually an abandoned factory, but as she was little more than a toddler at the time it is understandable that she didn't realise that back then.

A lot of her symptoms and personal anecdotes directly mirror information from the top Google result of related search terms. (Even her official art uses elements lifted from the first search results off of Google.) A LOT comes from that DID Research website. I think that was her main source of information early on, because it stuck closer to what you find there in the early days. The site has had a lot of the same information since 2015, so it would have been readily available to her.

What really gets me is that she seems to have skimmed the facts. I talked about my favorite recent discovery a few pages back, that she copies and pastes her sources into YouTube descriptions to try and pass it off like she's well-read on the subject. Which has worked, obviously. She brags about how everything she says is backed by science and her fans love to point out how she lists her sources. But sometimes it completely contradicts what she's saying. Which she doesn't know, because she hasn't read it. And what she does read, she trips up on, but she's never once (That I've found) gone back to correct herself.

Chloe is always right. And when she's demonstrably wrong, she doubles down. (Or finds a very passive aggressive and indirect way to sound like the bigger person. She's repeatedly said that she thinks of herself as a sort of martyr.) I know I'm in the minority thinking she's convinced she has DID, but I've known too many people with NPD to think otherwise. Narcissists are never wrong. They've convinced themselves of their lies. Anything that contradicts the self-important fiction they've constructed for themselves can be neatly compartmentalized away. And anything manipulative, disingenous, or otherwise awful that they do can be rationalized.

 

[themostdefectivedetective]

(Apologies if this has already been posted. I have been through the whole thread over the past few days but there is A LOT that has been included. I don't remember seeing it.)

Poor little Chronic Fatigue Syndrome addled Chloe couldn't get out of bed to do the washing up, was too tired to travel back home, slept 60% of the day when she was with Jamie...

But volunteered to do a run for charity?!?

 

[comrade666]

Chloe is always right. And when she's demonstrably wrong, she doubles down. I know I'm in the minority thinking she's convinced she has DID, but I've known too many people with NPD to think otherwise. Narcissists are never wrong. They've convinced themselves of their lies. Anything that contradicts the self-important fiction they've constructed for themselves can be neatly compartmentalized away. And anything manipulative, disingenous, or otherwise awful that they do can be rationalized.

I agree with everything you've posted here but I do dispute the point that Chloe is convinced she actually has DID. Yes, narcissists are good at compartmentalising. They protect their own ego first and foremost, even if that means lying to themselves. But lying to oneself isn't quite the same as truly believing a lie to the point of delusion. If she is a narcissist, deep down, Chloe knows she is lying about having DID. Even if she is able to ignore that in order to double down and convince herself what she's doing is right, she knows she doesn't have DID. She's just in far too deep to admit it. Personally, I'd like to see her go down the Remy tricked me I am the victim!!1! route if she ever does tire of the roleplay.

(Apologies if this has already been posted. I have been through the whole thread over the past few days but there is A LOT that has been included. I don't remember seeing it.)

That was in the OP! Still, you're right, this was during the time period in which she was claiming she couldn't even get out of bed to wash the dishes. I hadn't considered that. Funny.

 

[DissociaDONT]

I agree with everything you've posted here but I do dispute the point that Chloe is convinced she actually has DID. Yes, narcissists are good at compartmentalising. They protect their own ego first and foremost, even if that means lying to themselves. But lying to oneself isn't quite the same as truly believing a lie to the point of delusion. If she is a narcissist, deep down, Chloe knows she is lying about having DID. Even if she is able to ignore that in order to double down and convince herself what she's doing is right, she knows she doesn't have DID. She's just in far too deep to admit it. Personally, I'd like to see her go down the Remy tricked me I am the victim!!1! route if she ever does tire of the roleplay.

That's true. Deep down, I'm sure she does know. I think most narcassists do. Once in a blue moon you can corner one and get them to admit to something, but they're likely to gaslight you later on and say that conversation never happened. I think it's kind of telling that she insists, "If you think you're faking, you're probably not." I can't help but think she's used that on herself.

 

[Unheard Bird]

This is all so weird because she is essentially being spoon-fed this information and symptoms of her (most likely non-existent) trauma by other self-diagnosed freaks. As a 20-something Englishwoman, she doesn't even know what "Gaslighting" means and it's not like that it is a term that's only used in discussions about PTSD or DID. She sounds as gullible as some of her fans are online, learning stuff from people who have learned them from someone else, mostly without professional help. With all the goodwill that's left inside me, I am starting to believe this woman was manipulated and influenced by people she has talked to and ended up genuinely believing that she has this disorder. At this point, I am refusing to believe she isn't mentally ill in some type of way, she just doesn't know what it is since she is way too focused on forcing her symptoms on an unrelated disorder.

...which brings me to my question. I was looking through Reddit posts and Twitter threads about this and saw that a fuckton of people are defending Chloe against people who raise doubt by parroting everything she has taught them in her Youtube videos. All the information about how alters are formed, what the significance of [x] thing is, even the terminology comes from her videos. I was wondering if these terms the DID community use come from any academic source written by psychologists and psychiatrists who recognize DID as a disorder (and I know the number of them is very scarce) or if it's just the DID community coming up with them.

Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is all of their refusal to get treatment. I understand not everyone can afford it (I'm sure Chloe can) and wants to but I don't understand how there are no videos encouraging it from any of these channels on DID. Why isn't there an "integration" journey where we get to watch cutesy vlogs of these people getting the help they need to integrate into one person? I guess all the fun disappears if it's just the boring old Chloe talking...

Also... the way they are all determined to make sure everyone understands this isn't a personality disorder. Who the fuck cares? If this illness really gets in the way of how you live your life that you were kicked out of university (debatable), why wouldn't you want to get some help even if some doctor tells you this is a personality disorder. I feel like if they are diagnosed with a personality disorder, they have a higher chance of getting the right treatment...

I think we all know why....because it would require them to actually have it

 

[Cooking Mama]

A lot of her symptoms and personal anecdotes directly mirror information from the top Google result of related search terms. (Even her official art uses elements lifted from the first search results off of Google.) A LOT comes from that DID Research website. I think that was her main source of information early on, because it stuck closer to what you find there in the early days. The site has had a lot of the same information since 2015, so it would have been readily available to her.

What really gets me is that she seems to have skimmed the facts. I talked about my favorite recent discovery a few pages back, that she copies and pastes her sources into YouTube descriptions to try and pass it off like she's well-read on the subject. Which has worked, obviously. She brags about how everything she says is backed by science and her fans love to point out how she lists her sources. But sometimes it completely contradicts what she's saying. Which she doesn't know, because she hasn't read it. And what she does read, she trips up on, but she's never once (That I've found) gone back to correct herself.

Chloe is always right. And when she's demonstrably wrong, she doubles down. (Or finds a very passive aggressive and indirect way to sound like the bigger person. She's repeatedly said that she thinks of herself as a sort of martyr.) I know I'm in the minority thinking she's convinced she has DID, but I've known too many people with NPD to think otherwise. Narcissists are never wrong. They've convinced themselves of their lies. Anything that contradicts the self-important fiction they've constructed for themselves can be neatly compartmentalized away. And anything manipulative, disingenous, or otherwise awful that they do can be rationalized.

I will say this and probably get hit with the TMI rating, but I can kind of see this going on with Chloe. Mostly because one of my personal cows who I was really close to for a very long time genuinely convinced themselves that they have DID because of a different underlying condition that I and others who know them highly suspect they have. However, even if Chloe has convinced herself that her lie is true either out of some other kind of illness/disorder or not, some part of her is still aware she’s lying. Or, at they very least, exaggerating.

 

[braginskayas]

If anyone still thinks Chloe is anorexic, you’re nuts. Her little shared thing with all other relevant numbers blurred out should have been all you needed. My whore ass she was weighs 109 lbs.

She’s no twig, withering on the vine thing. That girl is a healthy weight and always has been. She might have an unhealthy relationship with weight and eating, but that does not make one anorexic.

It's true that people don't technically qualify for a diagnosis of anorexia nervosa unless they're clinically underweight, but from what I can see Chloe likely still has an eating disorder of some sort (even by her own admission, although given... everything else, that doesn't amount to much). She seems preoccupied with body image and a lot of the selfies on her Instagram look like body checks; plus she does look thinner than she did in her older photos/videos albeit not dangerously so. I'd hazard a guess she would at least qualify for a diagnosis of OSFED/EDNOS if nothing else - that tends to be what people who have all the symptoms of anorexia except low weight get diagnosed with.

 

[Enoby Way]

Haven't we already discussed her eating disorder and come to the if any, she has EDNOS conclusion?

 

[Shrryph1]

She isn't underweight by any means but she is notably thin for an English girl.

You racist motherfucker. But yeah. Anorexia is a body dysmorphic condition. It kills people. A social influencer humble bragging about her 23-year-old tight tummy is not that.

 

[comrade666]

Minor update - Chloe just deleted her video addressing the Nan situation.

 

[Cooking Mama]

Do we know if Chloe’s obsession with her weight and figure started before or after she decided she has DID? Because, if after, she could just be pretending since some in the medical community believe certain eating disorders stem from the desire for some kind of control with a person who has or had a chaotic life or suffered abuse.

 

[Carlos the Scientist]

Regarding the DissociaDID Instagram: Chloe’s deleted all pictures with Nan in it except for one where there’s a fan with them, so makes sense she wouldn’t delete that, don’t want to turn the fans against her any more than they already are. There is still one or two posts that mention Nan (a pic of a coffee shop saying how she was there with her fiancé). Also that animal crossing post is still up, but again, she was with her dear friends fragmented psyche and the entropy system so yeah can’t delete that either. I think all signs are pointing towards break up. Even the pic of her ring is gone.

Minor update - Chloe just deleted her video addressing the Nan situation.

She's gone from 721 posts to 607 on Instagram. Some fans are speculating on whether this means break-up or not; lots of rabid cult fans are commenting she wants privacy !!! it's a difficult time !!! respect her privacy !!!1!!1 etc etc. She's definitely dragging it out to keep her fans guessing.

 

[DissociaDONT]

Do we know if Chloe’s obsession with her weight and figure started before or after she decided she has DID? Because, if after, she could just be pretending since some in the medical community believe certain eating disorders stem from the desire for some kind of control with a person who has or had a chaotic life or suffered abuse.

It's not hard for me to imagine that she has had some problems with disordered eating based on the fact that she's pretty darn vain and has a fondness for absolutely ridiculous and revealing outfits.



At the same time, it's stuff like that that makes me think it's only a mild disordered eating problem, not anything full-blown or diagnosable as anorexia. She did have the abuser that made her binge eat... and there's Gregory the anorexic alter... and eating disorders ARE listed as a comorbid condition on her favorite website, DID Research.

 

[comrade666]

Do we know if Chloe’s obsession with her weight and figure started before or after she decided she has DID? Because, if after, she could just be pretending since some in the medical community believe certain eating disorders stem from the desire for some kind of control with a person who has or had a chaotic life or suffered abuse.

She went through a phase of obsessively posting about health and fitness on her personal Instagram shortly after her diagnosis and the tweet about her abuser forcing her to eat was post-diagnosis too. Her comments about her Mother's weight were pre-diagnosis but that doesn't say a great deal.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

So Chloe’s left a few posts about/with Nan on Instagram. She may have just missed them, plus some of them are for her podcast so those I don’t fault her for - business and all. The post with Nan and a fan is gone. Here’s what’s left (I didn’t grab everything, so there may be about 2 or 3 missing)

Art of Jeremy and Kyle +Chloe and nan


podcast


promoting the engagement


Nan with Chloe’s new guinea pigs