Infected MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

No. I actually do that for both men and women. I'm referring to things like bias towards disbelieving them as equally capable of lying and violence and child abuse, etc. Mostly in courts and the cops and the schools, etc. The pussy pass is definately real. Or things like a man getting his cock cut off is snickered at (and outright justified) when if some monster chopped his wife's tit off, he'd rightly be seen as a dangerous animal who needs putting down. Same with depictions of men getting slapped for saying the wrong thing on media. If you switch the roles, it becomes distinctly unfunny.

Wrong, it's usually framed as serious in American TV, but there's way more gender equality in slapstick overseas.
EDIT: Oh no, it's reetarded.

 

[CheezzyMach]

I'd disagree about the power. Women have power over men today that hasn't been seen since Jim Crow. Or Islam's treatment of women. Their words have a lot more power, and due to the remnants of chivalry, it's a very common sentiment that we are to believe women prima facie. (see Zoe Quinn/Anita Sarkesian) When they are caught lying, they are never held to account for it.

Considering that women who are concerned about mtf transgenders being given free access to women's spaces are currently being told to suck it up by TRAs and allies I kind of doubt that personally.

Men do tend to get the short end of the stick in court I won't argue that but being a woman isn't all rosy either.

Quinn and Sarkesian only have influence in nerd spaces that are dominated by lonely desperate neckbeard virgins * and there are rumors Sarkesian has been quietly blackballed by the video game industry after games she consulted on crashed and burned * they were laughed out of the UN.

Metoo is a more valid example but that largely affects industries that have a long and sordid history of inappropriate sexual behavior.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Considering that women who are concerned about mtf transgenders being given free access to women's spaces are currently being told to suck it up by TRAs and allies I kind of doubt that personally.

It should be noted though that a lot of that is due to the influence of certain segments of the feminist movement itself, which calls any feminist that opposes them a TERF, along with elements of the LGBT movement and the the Social Justice movement, many of whom are also women. To borrow a phrase said about men used by someone else earlier in this thread, women's biggest problem is women.

Metoo is a more valid example but that largely affects industries that have a long and sordid history of inappropriate sexual behavior.

Metoo is affecting all industries right now, not just Hollywood. There are already reports of growing numbers of men refusing to spend time alone with women to do things like train them or mentor them across all industries in order to avoid Metoo allegations. And of course there is the whole Kavanaugh fiasco. Metoo has had a devastating effect across the entirety of society and I'm afraid we still won't know the full effect of this for years.

 

[redcent]

It should be noted though that a lot of that is due to the influence of certain segments of the feminist movement itself, which calls any feminist that opposes them a TERF, along with elements of the LGBT movement and the the Social Justice movement, many of whom are also women. To borrow a phrase said about men used by someone else earlier in this thread, women's biggest problem is women.

that's not a problem caused by women. It's a problem caused by an ideology.

Metoo is affecting all industries right now, not just Hollywood. There are already reports of growing numbers of men refusing to spend time alone with women to do things like train them or mentor them across all industries in order to avoid Metoo allegations. And of course there is the whole Kavanaugh fiasco. Metoo has had a devastating effect across the entirety of society and I'm afraid we still won't know the full effect of this for years.

I think you're overestimating it's effects there

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

I think you're overestimating it's effects there

Agree to disagree on that one.

that's not a problem caused by women. It's a problem caused by an ideology.

Ideology or no, plenty of women are in league with the TRAs and completely okay with allowing trans people in formerly women only spaces. This particular situation is not necessarily a comment on the relative power of women in society.

 

[haurchefant]

In his warped worldview, anyone who doesn't agree with him is a hardcore radfem, and in fact most of the general population (especially females) are radfems. Everyone he happens to meet who isn't like this is an exception, "one of the good ones", rather than another reason to re-evaluate his heavily-distorted view of reality.

Since he's the type to throw false rape domestic violence accusations at anyone who dares question him he's more on par with Zoe Quinn. We could probably lay bets on when he troons out depending on how long it takes him to get frustrated by not getting results and blames his penis for it.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

Agree to disagree on that one.



Ideology or no, plenty of women are in league with the TRAs and completely okay with allowing trans people in formerly women only spaces. This particular situation is not necessarily a comment on the relative power of women in society.

Lets not forget where all this bullshit ideology started BEFORE it hit the cops,courts, etc. It started in the universities (where every thing foul comes from) and then migrated to every profession from there, esp. educators, social workers, etc.
It then became institutionalised by unelected bureacrats, most of whom are women or leftist, feminist males.
It's disingenuous to say "males hold all the positions of power"., which is completely untrue. A small#of men hold the majority of the most powerful posns, but the vast majority of institutional authority lies in the hands of university-educated females from a social science background who have been thoroughly steeped in the feminist poison.

 

[Dyn]

To be fair to TFM, off the top of my head I can't think of anything of note that MRAs have achieved.

They developed and coined the concept of 'toxic masculinity', which has actually been fairly significant in the development of late second-wave and third-wave feminist theory. Good job MRA's.

 

[Fougaro]

"2D is better than 3D"

Fact. An extra dimension is like an extra chromosome.

Sorry dude but if Rias Gremory and Lucy Heartfilia were real they still wouldn't date your miserable ass (...)

Truth be told, anyone who picks Lucy over Erza and anyone who unironically watches High School Dee Ecks Dee deserves to be publicly called a Frenchman.

They developed and coined the concept of 'toxic masculinity', which has actually been fairly significant in the development of late second-wave and third-wave feminist theory. Good job MRA's.

Literally the kind of winning you'd get tired of.

 

[redcent]

Lets not forget where all this bullshit ideology started BEFORE it hit the cops,courts, etc. It started in the universities (where every thing foul comes from) and then migrated to every profession from there, esp. educators, social workers, etc.
It then became institutionalised by unelected bureacrats, most of whom are women or leftist, feminist males.
It's disingenuous to say "males hold all the positions of power"., which is completely untrue. A small#of men hold the majority of the most powerful posns, but the vast majority of institutional authority lies in the hands of university-educated females from a social science background who have been thoroughly steeped in the feminist poison.

"Women hold positions of power" "men hold positions of power" the church has positions of power" "the big corporations are in power" it goes on. all of this is a whiny blame game. All these stupid groups whine about their personal devils and never look at the mirror at themselves. Including you

Great way to treat your lost friend, using him to turn into a ball of hatred. Did he have daughters? A mother? Sisters? Female friends? You gonna call them femnazis too eventually? Tell them to kill themselves? Or are you just going to stop them from getting an education because you're so scared of some danger haired nobodies.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

"Women hold positions of power" "men hold positions of power" the church has positions of power" "the big corporations are in power" it goes on. all of this is a whiny blame game. All these stupid groups whine about their personal devils and never look at the mirror at themselves. Including you

Great way to treat your lost friend, using him to turn into a ball of hatred. Did he have daughters? A mother? Sisters? Female friends? You gonna call them femnazis too eventually? Tell them to kill themselves? Or are you just going to stop them from getting an education because you're so scared of some danger haired nobodies.

he did have an exceptionally evil malignant narcissist for a wife, and everyone who encouraged facilitated , and rewarded her disgusting behaviour. Who said anything about denying anyone an education? Why must you be dishonest? As for her, yes, I hope she does kill herself. Very telling you must make this into "muhsoggyknees" instead of treating it for what it is, criticism of systemic inequity.

 

[JaneThough]

he did have an exceptionally evil malignant narcissist for a wife, and everyone who encouraged facilitated , and rewarded her disgusting behaviour. Who said anything about denying anyone an education? Why must you be dishonest? As for her, yes, I hope she does kill herself. Very telling you must make this into "muhsoggyknees" instead of treating it for what it is, criticism of systemic inequity.

I have a feeling your friend wasn't the saint you claim him to be, and his wife isn't the harpy you claim her to be. I also have a feeling that this whole story is an MRA strawman.

Also, after you used your friend's story to try to prove your point, then you went on to tell Cosmos to kill herself, I don't see why anyone should take you seriously. You're a sad little man who is angry that a woman can possibly be seen as an equal to you. But I want to assure you that there is no woman equal to you. Or man. They're all way, way above you.

 

[Dyn]

As for her, yes, I hope she does kill herself. Very telling you must make this into "muhsoggyknees" instead of treating it for what it is, criticism of systemic inequity.

But genuinely hoping some random person on the internet kills herself isn't a criticism of systemic inequity. I'm not going to kneejerk assume it's rooted in misogyny because I'm a generous and understanding person, so why don't you explain why, on a personal level, you hope @Cosmos kills herself. This is a person who has always displayed sensitivity and empathy to the plight of marginalised men, and has never once expressed any kind of anti-male sentiment. I am very much open to understanding your point of view here.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

I have a feeling your friend wasn't the saint you claim him to be, and his wife isn't the harpy you claim her to be. I also have a feeling that this whole story is an MRA strawman.

Also, after you used your friend's story to try to prove your point, then you went on to tell Cosmos to kill herself, I don't see why anyone should take you seriously. You're a sad little man who is angry that a woman can possibly be seen as an equal to you. But I want to assure you that there is no woman equal to you. Or man. They're all way, way above you.

In fact, I said that BEFORE I told about my loved one (you assumed it was a friend) . And you immediately assume the worst about a man who you didn't know, which points to you being the sad angry little person who is angry that someone is calling out a systemic injustice. (which has zero to do with equality) And then attack and try to degrade the messenger. Seems you're the exact type who perpetrates this kind of injustice. I'm guessing you're a university lesbofascist with funny coloured hair, facial piercings, and a gender studies degree, given the ferocity of your vitriol. It's actually you who detests the idea of equality, which is all the majority of MRAs demand.

But genuinely hoping some random person on the internet kills herself isn't a criticism of systemic inequity. I'm not going to kneejerk assume it's rooted in misogyny because I'm a generous and understanding person, so why don't you explain why, on a personal level, you hope @Cosmos kills herself. This is a person who has always displayed sensitivity and empathy to the plight of marginalised men, and has never once expressed any kind of anti-male sentiment. I am very much open to understanding your point of view here.

Meh, it was merely a throwaway. I didn't mean it at the time. Though after she's revealed her character here, I can't say I don't wish her pain and misfortune.

 

[haurchefant]

Meh, it was merely a throwaway. I didn't mean it at the time. Though after she's revealed her character here, I can't say I don't wish her pain and misfortune.

Since you're such a gender equalist you'll be happy to say this shit to @Null I'm sure. Please continue whining about how mods should die because you're assblasted about this thread. Plz post pics when you cut your dick off and declare yourself a real woman.

 

[Dyn]

Though after she's revealed her character here, I can't say I don't wish her pain and misfortune.

Would you care to explain why you wish pain and misfortune on her? I'm sure you understand that as a passionate men's rights activist a lot of people are going to blindly attribute it to misogyny, so here's your chance to explain why that's not the case.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

Would you care to explain why you wish pain and misfortune on her? I'm sure you understand that as a passionate men's rights activist a lot of people are going to blindly attribute it to misogyny, so here's your chance to explain why that's not the case.

There's really no point trying to convince radfems (see Jane)and simps (Haurchefaunt, who seems to want to run and tell the teacher) of anything, much like there's no point in trying to convince troon extremists that deadnaming them is not "violence" They are insane ideologues. I merely ask that normal people push for changes to badly flawed systems to bring about equality under the law. What a fucking bastard, eh?

Edited to say, the "kill yourself " comment was meant to be directed at Jane, not Cosmos. I'm a tard, what can I say? My sincerest apologies to @Cosmos . Thank you @Dyn for pointing out my folly. Probably shitted up the thread enough here, neither that Jane shitcunt nor I will be changing eachother's minds.

 

[JaneThough]

Somehow, the "radfems" and "simps" have yet to wish death on anyone in this thread.

What does that say for your movement?

 

[haurchefant]

There's really no point trying to convince radfems (see Jane)and simps (Haurchefaunt, who seems to want to run and tell the teacher) of anything, much like there's no point in trying to convince troon extremists that deadnaming them is not "violence" They are insane ideologues. I merely ask that normal people push for changes to badly flawed systems to bring about equality under the law. What a fucking bastard, eh?

Edited to say, the "kill yourself " comment was meant to be directed at Jane, not Cosmos. I'm a tard, what can I say? My sincerest apologies to @Cosmos . Thank you @Dyn for pointing out my folly. Probably shitted up the thread enough here, neither that Jane shitcunt nor I will be changing eachother's minds.

hoe's mad

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

Somehow, the "radfems" and "simps" have yet to wish death on anyone in this thread.

What does that say for your movement?

You wish to see the systemic inequalities which are responsible for the suicides of tens of 1000s of men per year continue unabated, and mock those who criticise said system. I hardly think one is an iota better than the other. Had my uncle come on here in crisis, you would have ridiculed and mocked him, not giving a shit whether he lived or died. As evidenced by your casting aspersions earlier. Don't pretend you're better than anyone here.