2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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This is a fucking joke, right? You cannot seriously expect me to believe that Trump, of all fucking people, is pro-CCP. What the Hell do you think that "Tariffs against China" means, daily deliveries of fried rice and pork belly?

Joe's account (Because he didn't write this) has only written eight fucking Tweets about Hong Kong in its entire history. He's had an extraordinarily lengthy amount of time to promote the freedom of Hong Kong from mainland China during his entire tenure as Vice President, but more-interestingly than that, he's talked about Taiwan literally one single time.

Translation: The DNC has finally figured out that the majority of Americans are rightfully pissed off at China. Sleepy Joe needs to appeal to that audience, and so his campaign is trying to do so through gaslighting.

Amazing. lol.
 
Translation: The DNC has finally figured out that the majority of Americans are rightfully pissed off at China. Sleepy Joe needs to appeal to that audience, and so his campaign is trying to do so through gaslighting.

Amazing. lol.
He's fucked good and proper. Anyone who wants tough on China ain't going to Biden to get it, they're going to Trump. I think this tweet sums it up best.
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A fence isn't a wall. Mexicans are already cutting through it with saws lmao. He promised a concrete wall. The GOP controlled Congress for two years and they didn't do a god damn thing. They couldn't even repeal Obamacare lol.
Fucking retards. Gee i wonder how it could have ever fallen over
The concrete used to anchor the 30ft-tall (9m) panels in place had not yet set.

He didn't invent non destructible adamantium and use that for his wall or build a moat and fill it with crocodiles and sharks with laserbeams, impeach drumpf. There are many advantages to his steel beam wall: you can see through it, wildlife can pass through it, the most important likely being that it's quick, easy and cheap to install and repair. If he did build a medieval style wall you'd be here sperging about how it's outdated technology and could easily be defeated by catapults.

Use more dumb stickers and more lols to show that you totally aren't mad.
 
At least it's not the ol' "the great wall of China was pointless because Genghis Khan appeared" thing.

I wouldn't say he's pro-CCP, but Trump has gone back and forth on his stance on China a lot. One moment he's telling them to go fuck themselves, the next moment he's saying that they have a great relationship.
That's how Trump talks about everything.
 
One moment he's telling them to go fuck themselves, the next moment he's saying that they have a great relationship.
This is how New York/New Jersey people talk.

Edit : A great example to of this sort of talk is to listen to ANY New York based team's podcast for a year. A player will go from "The greatest ever" to "A COMPLETE BUM" to "THE MVP!" in the course of a season based purely on how they performed in the last week.
 
Well, when you don't want to endorse someone, you put it off for as long as you can, until the very very nice people at the DNC start bringing out pictures of Seth Rich and begin saying things like, "It would mean ever so much to us if you were to endorse Mr. Biden for president. No pressure, of course" while in the background you can see staffers lowering the corpse of Tulsi Gabbard's political aspirations into a shallow grave. And suddenly endorsing Joe Biden for president becomes something you really really want to do.
Kay: Chelsea, you never told me your family knew Joe Biden!
Chelsea: Oh sure, you want to meet him?
Kay: Yeah!
Chelsea: You know, my father helped Joe in his career.
Kay: Really? How?
Chelsea: ...Let's listen to this speech.
Kay: [after listening to Joe mumble a while] Please, Chelsea. Tell me.
Chelsea: Well when Joe was first starting to compete for nomination, he was running against a big clown car. And as his polling numbers got better and better he wanted others to endorse him. Now, Joe is my father's house nigger's former running mate. My father went to see the last holdout Elizabeth Warren, and offered her $1,000,000 and some tribal land to endorse Joe, but she said no. So the next day, my father went to see her again, only this time with Hillary. Within an hour, Warren endorsed Joe, with a certified donation of $10,000,000 to Clinton Foundation.
Kay: How did he do that?
Chelsea: My father made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
Kay: What was that?
Chelsea: Hillary held a gun to her head, and my father assured her that either her suicide or her endorsement would trend on Twitter.
[Kay stares at Chelsea in disbelief]
Chelsea: That's a true story. ...That's my family Kay, it's not me.
 
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That's just geopolitical diplomacy. Sometimes you go in savage and hard, sometimes you go in buttery and soft. The most important thing, however, is helping your own country.

It's not surprising that the left has no idea how diplomacy works. I saw how Saint Obama negotiated for healthcare. "I want X and you want Y so I'll give you Y and then be surprised when you suddenly demand Z, but we won't move from Y no matter what because I'm Saint Obama, the smartest man in the room, every room and it's my way or the highway." If that was sending their best (and compare him to say, AOC or Pelosi, he was) then no wonder the left just doesn't... get Trump, on a fundamental level.

Nobody but the TDS afflicted cares that the wall is made of steel slats instead of bricks. Didn't I just tell you that you don't understand conservative thinking? I just fucking told you that. We just want a wall, the specifics we left up to him.

More specifically, what most want is immigration reform. A common refrain on the right is the "as long as they come in LEGALLY" meme. We need not only to block illegals as best we can, but also to throw out the fucking illegals -- including the dreamers, fuck them, no exceptions -- and slow down or outright stop even legal immigration. Fuck off, we're full.

Our immigration policies are based on 1960s thinking, where we needed ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME to fight the commies.

Ironically, now its the commies we imported that want ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.

A wall is nice. But one thing I've heard that's a quite nice take is that Trump turned Mexico into the wall. That is to say, he's arranged it so Mexico stops the Latin American assholes from coming through their country, including building their own wall on their southern border. Yeah, you have Soros and DSA affiliated NGOs trying to do caravans through Mexico to the US specifically to create a crisis they can profit from, but Mexico (and Coronachan) seem to have put a stop to that shit for a while.
 
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I like how literally everything the apple guy is mad about has already been covered so extensively elsewhere on the Farms that it's all completely old and outdated arguments from what might as well be years ago. I hope he starts yelling about kids in cages or pee-pee tapes, next. I wouldn't mind a nostalgia trip.
 
What even happened to those guys now that everyone has long stopped pretending to care about it?

Like all brown people, the second the DNC didn't need them for attack ads, they forgot about them and actively ignored them, leaving them in the same "unforgivable" situation they were in before, so they can bring it up again later when they need to use them as another pawn. Fixing the situation would require Pelosi to actually stop sucking down box wine and marxist cock long enough to actually do something about the border, and the DNC won't let anything get fixed until Trump is out of office. Sorry small brown people, stay in those cages, we might need you for a photo op in October.

The DNC uses the plight of brown people for political reasons. It doesn't take a Trumpian intellect to realize that gives them a direct economic incentive to make sure the problems they complain about are never actually fixed.
 
Trump isn't going to build a wall. He's started building a steel slat fence that's mostly replacement fencing and can be defeated with a $100 reciprocating saw.
A fence isn't a wall. Mexicans are already cutting through it with saws lmao. He promised a concrete wall.

You left out the part where the Border Patrol got multiple prototypes, tested them, then specifically requested those slats, as it would be better operationally than a straight up wall.

“So what prototyping was meant to do was help us inform what is the best in terms of operational use,” Waldman said. “So when the Army Rangers who tested on them, what we found is that bollard actually is the best for us because we’re actually able to see through it. So that’s what we were able to take away from prototyping.”

A blank wall is better as a stand-alone barrier, with no other security measures. But the border is constantly being patrolled; increased border security has always included a combination of barriers, cameras, lights, and human patrols. The people doing the patrolling want the slats so they can see what's going on.

(Funny how the media spent the last 2 months demanding Trump listen to experts when it comes to the pandemic. He listened to the experts when putting together the "wall", then the media mocked him for changing his approach afterwards.)

In terms of the election--I think Trump's base, which has been following the wall saga for the last 4 years, understand this. They see how hard Congress fought Trump, yet Trump hasn't backed down and actively pushes for it, even at the cost of letting deals die if he doesn't get his wall. The people who care don't view the fencing as a betrayal, they view it as a compromise and want the guy who delivered it to deliver more of it.

And to be blunt, that's mostly what the wall represented politically: someone in power finally taking border security seriously. Americans have been getting betrayed on this, by both parties, since Reagan signed that amnesty back in the 1980s. It was not enough for another politician to come in and say, "hey guys I'm totally going to secure the border, I'm super cereal this time!"

The wall represents a border control that can't be defunded once it's put up, and supporting a wall is unequivocal signalling that you take the border seriously. It was never about race, it was about honesty.

I'd be happier if it was 30 feet of blank concrete, with overhanging ramparts and a double wide patrol path on top, because that's more secure without active patrolling. I have no doubts the Democratic Congress will seek to defund Border Patrol in the future, forcing them to be ineffective in their mission. Their crazier elements are already openly calling for ICE to be completely dismantled.

But if you think the wall-wanters are going to vote out the only guy in 40 years who has delivered something tangible, just because he gave Border Patrol what they wanted, you're crazy.
 
But if you think the wall-wanters are going to vote out the only guy in 40 years who has delivered something tangible, just because he gave Border Patrol what they wanted, you're crazy.

Meanwhile, Anne Coulter is doing her best to mislead the GOP base, bitching that "he still hasn't built the wall" every time she's given access to a microphone.
 
Meanwhile, Anne Coulter is doing her best to mislead the GOP base, bitching that "he still hasn't built the wall" every time she's given access to a microphone.
oh she's still around?
Conservative talk that's on at my job hasn't even bothered to bring her up to complain about her in at least a year.
 
Meanwhile, Anne Coulter is doing her best to mislead the GOP base, bitching that "he still hasn't built the wall" every time she's given access to a microphone.

Yes, but she has the luxury of being a purist. Trump has to actually get things done.

To be brutally honest, I'd mark Trump down as a "partial failure" for wall-building. He ran on his ability to get things done, and he simply didn't get it done. I didn't think he would back in 2016--all the obstructions and fighting was foreseeable, and the office of the President is weaker than people seem to realize. Still, it's a clear case of over-promise and under-deliver.

But this is an election thread, and even in partial failure, Trump has proven he's the only elected politician willing to actually fight for the concept of border security. If something else related to border security comes up--say, a pandemic of communicable disease from 3rd world countries--you can trust that he'll handle things with security as top priority, instead of worrying about being called a racist.

You aren't going to get immigration hawks and wall cheerleaders to switch votes or stay at home, when they have a guy visibly trying to push their agenda even while catching flak for it. I'll bet Ann Coulter votes for Trump in November, moaning and bitching all the way to the polls.
 
You aren't going to get immigration hawks and wall cheerleaders to switch votes or stay at home, when they have a guy visibly trying to push their agenda even while catching flak for it. I'll bet Ann Coulter votes for Trump in November, moaning and bitching all the way to the polls.

If she's controlled opposition -- remember, she predicted Trump on Bill Maher, back when Hillary was literally paying people to push Trump as a pied piper candidate -- then expect her to keep attacking him up until November.

If she's actually a conservative, expect her to endorse him and absolve him of all sins around September / October, to give any Never Trumpers an excuse to support him after all.
 
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If she's controlled opposition -- remember, she predicted Trump on Bill Maher, back when Hillary was literally paying people to push Trump as a pied piper candidate -- then expect her to keep attacking him up until November.

If she's actually a conservative, expect her to endorse him and absolve him of all sins around September / October, to give any Never Trumpers an excuse to support him after all.
Ann Coulter's not conservative, she IS controlled opposition. No matter if she likes Tramp or not, she's a talking head shill for Fox who always releases a new shitty book every year or so. I remember looking in the politics section in my library and she had 10 or so different books of all the same topic.
 
Ann Coulter's not conservative, she IS controlled opposition. No matter if she likes Tramp or not, she's a talking head shill for Fox who always releases a new shitty book every year or so. I remember looking in the politics section in my library and she had 10 or so different books of all the same topic.
I have alluded to this before, but the best way to think of anne coulter is as the orginal right wing version of various insincere woke journo speds who build their personal brands by being as edgelordy and obnoxious and ridiculous sounding as possible solely to ensure they get talk show slots/book deals/magazine bylines for being "controversial figures" which is why their rhetoric is characterised by taking the most needlessly aggressive, spiteful, divisive, fanatical, and hypocritical sounding bullshit that serves only to get attention and piss people off, even if its a major liability and embarrassment to the cause its supposedly advocating.

As much as I might occasionally sneer at the naivete of the Boondocks, atleast the groids behind it cottoned on to the fact she was about as legit and genuine as brianna wu's coochie close to twenty years ago
 
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Ann Coulter's not conservative, she IS controlled opposition. No matter if she likes Tramp or not, she's a talking head shill for Fox who always releases a new shitty book every year or so. I remember looking in the politics section in my library and she had 10 or so different books of all the same topic.
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Ann Coulter's not conservative, she IS controlled opposition. No matter if she likes Tramp or not, she's a talking head shill for Fox who always releases a new shitty book every year or so. I remember looking in the politics section in my library and she had 10 or so different books of all the same topic.

I just figured she was an edgy, man-faced bitch.
 
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