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Not rating you late because it's a recent article. But once again the news media and twitter have caught on to something that the Kiwi Farms pointed out weeks ago.

It's the first time I've seen someone point out the seal was bad on the freezer.

Also, it's only @tuscangarder rating me late. She's the Myrna Minkoff to my Ignatius P Reilly. That minx!
 
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The media saw something before Kiwifarms did?

Truly, we live in clown world.

The Taiwanese media did. Then again if you want autistic China a-logging, the Taiwanese media is your go to source.

Okay, at first these LWT's not in the studio are okay, now they are getting to feel like propaganda.

John Oliver making propaganda? Who would have thought...
 
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Because that's not creepy. I can't help but notice that none of you journalists and none of these social media companies care that much when people organize these huge "Rent Strikes" that violate this shit, and yet when it's a protest that goes against the established narrative, it has to be crushed underneath a boot. Seems a little unusual to me that the Right to Assembly applies to one party but not the other, here.

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That occurred to me too. If you look at the US standards for BSL-4 they're extreme. Positive pressure suit is worn over normal lab gear, two sets of gloves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level#Biosafety_level_4

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Now you may object that this is typical American overkill. Well yeah, but you're dealing with fucking ebola, I'd say that a bit of redundant safety might be in order. Also, the CDC environment where everyone can suggest improvements is designed to produce heavily redundant safety measures so that if one fails you still don't contaminate people.

In China, you always get the impression, someone, at the top said 'Have the lab operating by this date or you'll lose your job' and then the underlings scrambled to get to the point all the boxed could be checked and anyone who questioned if it was all ready got the boot. It's not a good environment to build a BSL-4 lab.



Boris could learn from this. He could tell the police to stop hunting people with drones[1], kicking in doors[2] and filling lagoons with dye[3] to stop people swimming.

[1] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-drone-messages-easter-weekend-a9460401.html
https://web.archive.org/web/2020041...e-drone-messages-easter-weekend-a9460401.html

[2]https://www.mediaite.com/crime/brit...-broke-down-door-over-suspected-corona-rager/
https://web.archive.org/web/2020041...-broke-down-door-over-suspected-corona-rager/

[3] https://www.insider.com/uk-police-dyed-blue-lagoon-black-to-stop-people-visiting-2020-3
https://archive.vn/wip/Pv3zi

As for the PPE: Yeah that's normal for BSL4 Everywhere in the west. Not china though!

But the meat of the issur is. See this? This is why I say you brits gotta take your cops to fucking task. Holy shit this is ridiculous. And not just the corona issues.

Being generous I'll take at face value the dying part being yearly and not corona related.

WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY THROWING INK AT A FUCKING LAKE EVERY YEAR?! "To warn off tourists that believe it isn't toxic." Hey! Hey! Listen! Tea overdose might've fried your fucking neurons, but this one's easy to get. Here in the civilized world us normal people, when we want to warn turists that a lake is toxic. WE PLANT A BIGASS FUCKING SIGN SAYING "WARNING: TOXIC!" We don't dye the fucking water. What kinda knobhead had that idea?! "But muh tourists too dumb to obey the sign" well if they are you don't stop those cretins. That's just natural sellection at work. Tourists are also too stupid to figure out not jumping from a balcony is an important part of surviving. But that doesn't mean we paint the fucking balconies red to warn them. We put a sign, and if they're still too much of a buncha numbskulls to get it, then nothing of value is lost!

Why do some people want the lockdowns to continue indefinitely if more and more people lose their jobs? I have seen this sentiment on a local subreddit and I want to know why? Do they like seeing their enemies lose their livelihoods or is this an excuse for communism?

You're probably not fucking wrong. Reason UBI seems half sane somehow to us spaniards is our economy is so irreparably assfucked that there's no point in trying to avoid the depression and we see no other way to avoid a massive famine buttfucking it further, and most believe in one or two legislatures it'll be repelled if things don't suck even harder. So I could see foreign commies thinking "well then if we artificially cause that depression to happe people will accept UBI and then we'll start the path to soviet russia." What they didn't however count in is our culture (depression isn't new to us, not by a long shot) and the fact that our government has had to guarantee decentralization, snall business promotion and transparency through reform for us to not freakout. Meaning while we're going commie, we're going LIBERAL communism... somehow. So they would not like it one bit when separation of powers, freedom of information and regional power distribution fucks them in the ass.
 
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It's the first time I've seen someone point out the seal was bad on the freezer.
Nah one of our users pointed this out about 500 pages ago. I think this is the first appearance of this Tweet on our forum. But it's still all good information. I could have seen the freezer seal discussion on twitter, but I am pretty sure it was here. There was the freezer seal, the icing on the interior, and the lady's crappy mask. And then you posted that bit about the American level 4 lab prep.

I love our forum. Good work as always. :semperfidelis:
 
I was taking a shower with the radio on when de Blasio gave his daily spiel. For the first time in weeks I listened to this goofball talk. You could tell a political campaign consultant told him to refer to the situation with terms and slogans used in war propaganda. I'm sorry but doctors and nurses, when not posting Tik Tok videos, are certainly worthy of respect and gratitude but they are not performing the same duty as an infantry soldier or a fireman running into a burning building. Also he was crying about needing the Federal government's help (what he really means is Federal $$$) because NYC is low on PPE and other equipment. Maybe if he hadn't been such an outstanding and venal tard slithering up to every CCP operative who waved a few dollars in his direction like a thirsty coke addled stripper and begged everyone to hug a chinaman or badmouthed the President of the United States (the man from Queens who has the power to give him anything he wants) the City of New York might not be so fucked right now.

I notice people are doing whatever they want when the weather gets warm-Central Park was full of folks not social distancing. If New York City residents are united about something, it's that they all hate de Blasio.
 

Glad to see the daily death count heading in the right direction. Although on that Guardian page I see that Tony fucking Blair has apparently published an exit plan for lockdown.

Did anyone ask him to do that?
 
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Hey! Hey! Listen! Tea overdose might've fried your fucking neurons, but this one's easy to get. Here in the civilized world us normal people, when we want to warn turists that a lake is toxic. WE PLANT A BIGASS FUCKING SIGN SAYING "WARNING: TOXIC!"
There are signs all over the place there warning that the lake is a toxic deathtrap. People ignore them, because people are dumb.
 
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A Louisiana pastor who has drawn criticism for holding in-person church services despite coronavirus guidelines is asking people to donate their stimulus checks to evangelists who “haven’t had an offering in a month.”
In a video posted to YouTube on Wednesday, the Rev. Tony Spell called on the public to get behind a new online challenge he is dubbing the #PastorSpellStimulusChallenge.
There are three rules to the challenge, Spell said in the video. The first rule is that it starts on Sunday. The second, he said, is for people to “donate your stimulus money.”
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“Rule number three,” he continued, is to “donate it to evangelists, North American evangelists who haven’t had an offering in a month; missionaries, who haven’t had an offering in a month; music ministers, who haven’t had an offering in a month.”
“I’m donating my entire stimulus, $1,200,” Spell added. “My wife is donating her stimulus, $1,200. My son is donating his stimulus, $600.”
Individuals with income under $75,000 and married couples with income less than $150,000 can receive the full amounts of $1,200 per adult and $500 per child under legislation signed into law last month by President Trump.
Spell's comments come as churches across the country have either closed their doors or moved their services online in efforts to comply with stay-at-home orders issued by states and federal guidelines urging people to avoid unnecessary travel and gatherings exceeding 10 people amid the pandemic.
The U.S. has more than 654,000 confirmed cases of the virus and more than 31,000 deaths, with nearly 54,000 recoveries, according to figures compiled by John Hopkins University.
Late last month, Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards (D) issued a stay-at-home order directing residents to avoid large gatherings to prevent the spread of the virus. The state has more than 22,500 cases, leading to more than 1,150 deaths as of Thursday, according to figures from the Louisiana's health department.
Several days after Edwards issued the order, Spell was charged with misdemeanor summons for six counts of violating the mandate after refusing to discontinue in-person church service temporarily amid the pandemic.
He also drew headlines for announcing plans to hold a large service during Easter despite the outbreak, saying: “Satan and a virus will not stop us.”

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There's the possibility that the timeframe we have is all wrong though. Hypothetically, let's say the virus escaped the wuhan lab undetected and asymptomatic earlier than first thought. Let's say the virus escapes Wuhan containment in July or August. This would explain peoples accounts of a strange cold-like flu happening around September, and the high rate of transmission already suspected as well as the antibodies present. Suddenly in October a few people in Wuhan start dropping dead for no immediately discernable reason.

By November and December CCP completed their investigation and have discovered COVID-19. They decide to lockdown Wuhan as things have already spread too far and decide to create a cover story. Due to Chinas information control no one internationally has any real reason to suspect anything else at first. CCP in December/January, probably had foreign agents trying to spread the virus on purpose in order to "bring everyone down to their level economically and politically" in order to save face. But I theorize September/October might have been the first wave spread unknowingly from people coming out of Wuhan and China.

I’ve seen thoughts on an August of September origin, but I’m not sure I buy it. No matter how you slice it, the first places this thing gets into is generally the health care providers. And while they may be asymptomatic, or simply have shrugged it off, the second it hits a nursing home or critical care unit it gets noticed. Unless they have records of some unexpected nursing home death spikes earlier than November, I still think November is when this got rolling.


So they are now saying that the model they used to justify locking everybody at home is fatally flawed. Therefore it cannot be used to justify setting anybody free. Because the Experts say you must stay where you are forever!

I swear if we learn nothing else from this, it’s that the moment somebody is put forth as an “expert” they should immediately be hung from the nearest tree. “Expert” is so clearly synonymous with “Autist with no common sense”.
 
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