Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

heterotic said:
Yeah, and people around them can make their own decisions to stay or not stay in those people's lives. Don't make everyone around someone with bpd into a victim. They aren't.

And that's all I'm going to say about that.
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Yep I agree, got to make a decision to walk away or risk getting into outlandish drama. Ok well good luck I certainly I do hope people get therapy who need it to improve themselves.
 
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Lurking said:
Had a little dig, documentary was released in 2004. Book released in 2009. There are a lot of similarities but the one key thing I noticed was the difference in stories over the abuse. Helen doesn’t seem to know the full extent of it and thinks about potential SRA. But this is not really referenced in the book. Also the difference in number of personalities.

another case of malingering? Or just extremely similar cases? Or in fact the same person with ‘amnesia’ in abuse details which is potentially plausible.
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I'm late on this, but Alice did experience SRA. It was explained pretty thoroughly in the book.
 
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snowflakesystem said:
In the book it says that it was a way to trick the children being abused in the supposed (but likely) paedophile ring. Made it seem more fantastical, but I'm not about to reread the book to get the quote up. I don't think I can ever touch that book again.
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I haven't read this book and I really cannot bring myself to, but I am curious about this fantastical aspect. Girls who grow up in cults in general are often groomed into early sexual encounters, often first by the leader of the cult (or the compound if it's an expansive cult), and then with a selected partner (an adult male or nearly adult male). What about SRA is fantastical, and different from other cult sexual abuse?

This is not off topic.

weirdoonmars said:
something something bpd is nothing like DID
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A significant portion of the psychiatric and psychological academic community believes that DID is an extreme spectrum disorder and that disorders like bpd, ptsd, and cptsd belong on that same spectrum. A significant portion also believe that DID doesn't belong in the DSM or the ICD and that it would be more beneficial to diagnose them with bpd and ptsd. There's definitely not any consensus around the idea that DID and BPD are not really just different versions of the same problems, especially since neuroscientific and psychiatric research is showing that splitting and a dissociative identity come from the same developmental problem.

A good example of why it may be a spectrum is that even in bpd itself (ignoring the people diagnosed with it who do not split or severely dissociate) you see patients who only split external experiences and people, and others who split internally as well, and that these splits can result in what feels like to themselves and others as two distinct identities. A "bad" heterotic and a "good" heterotic. With severe dissociation, there could be amnesia with "bad" heterotic, and depersonalization from anything that happens during this split. When you go back to feeling like "good" heterotic, your relationship isn't over, because you have disconnected yourself from that breakup, even if you recall it. "That wasn't me".

DID and severe BPD are very similar.
 
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DissociaDID really made me realise how gullible I am. I literally believed all the stupid shit she says until I found this thread. Also, in the video “MY ALTERS DRAW THEMSELVES | Dissociative Identity Disorder” she literally switches to this ‘dark’ alter who magically knows how to use photoshop and somehow knows exactly what they’re doing. So much for amnesia lol. Also, I pointed this out in a comment on her video and she removed it.
 
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My firs post here. I don't think this is significant, but here's a post from twitter by an another rainbow pony flower magic whateverthefuck system. Apparently some people in the did community have concerns about Chloe.
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comrade666 said:
I've got a list of videos she recently deleted or made private. Around 25 in total. I'll upload those later today.



If you have a class photograph with the two of you perhaps you could send that to a mod with any identifying information censored? I'd like to hear more from you if you could verify your connection to Chloe. @SAVE TWINKIE! or @THOTto should be able to help.
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I don't think I have any class photos! :( This would have been around 18-12 years ago and I've obviously since moved on with my own family. Not sure how I am able to verify it,
heavycream said:
@Wilkinsonworry Can I ask how you found out about Chloe's youtube channel and/or why you were searching her up after so long? Just curious. You said you both were friends during primary school (elementary school for US Kiwis). I'm assuming you lost touch going into Secondary/high school, or did she cut people off in order to pull this internet charade without people noticing?
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heavycream said:
@Wilkinsonworry Can I ask how you found out about Chloe's youtube channel and/or why you were searching her up after so long? Just curious. You said you both were friends during primary school (elementary school for US Kiwis). I'm assuming you lost touch going into Secondary/high school, or did she cut people off in order to pull this internet charade without people noticing?
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We were friends on Facebook for a while and she used to link her videos on her personal profile before she blew up. We lost touch when I left that primary school when I moved house, I was 10 years old so didn't really keep in touch until finding her and others in our class on Facebook later on so I can't really vouch for beyond that. We would wish eachother happy birthday on Facebook etc but that was it really
 
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just a person said:
Satanic ritual abuse is not real. Cults are real and the abuse within cults is real, like the Children of God cult. However these accounts from small children about satanic or occult rituals, sexual abuse, murder and the like has never had evidence to back it up. Never ever.

A very common thought during satanic panic was "there's no way these kids could know about these things so it must be real". That absolutely was not the case. At the time these interviewers had no idea how to question children in order to get honest answers. They unwittingly planted ideas in kids heads and pressured them in to giving a specific type of answer.

Imagine this: you take a kid and hound them with specific questions like "Did mommy/daddy/daycare worker ever touch you here? Did mommy/daddy/daycare worker ever perform [insert specific act] on you?". You don't let them leave or accept their answer if they say no. You assume they are too scared to tell the truth. They're tired. They want their parents and siblings. They want the questioning to stop. You are making the type of answer you want to receive from them clear and the child wants to be a good kid and please adults so they eventually say yes. You feel happy that they're finally opening up to you, you praise and reward them for these answers. You prod them for more detail and with their great imagination they make things up based on information fed to them via questioning, things they saw in movies, read in books, heard in church and so on. They can come up with truly fantastical stories - stories of murder, cannibalism, demons - little kids are good at imagining things. Their malleable little minds might even begin to believe the fiction to a certain extent.

See how this has gone terribly wrong? That is what happened with every "victim" of satanic ritual abuse.

Sorry if it's OT but since this keeps being mentioned I wanted to give more insight. SRA is, in all certainty, a huge unfortunate accident which broke apart families, ruined relationships, and landed innocent people behind bars. There has never, and I mean never been any evidence to back up any of these claims after decades of interrogation and police investigations. Any actual abuse uncovered during that shit show was incidental and unrelated to satanism or occult.
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Look into Christ Church Ritual abuse. They have a bit of a history. Satanic disguised as bible bashers. It was a small religious school. Again, like everything i look into i keep an open mind, but, those interviews i watched with those kids will stick with me forever as the information they gave out would have had to have been researched and rehearsed for months to get right like they did. They were too young and sorry to say not smart enough to carry it off.
 
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BigBadgerArse said:
Look into Christ Church Ritual abuse. They have a bit of a history. Satanic disguised as bible bashers. It was a school. Again like everything i look into i keep an open mind, but those interviews i watched with those kids will stick with me forever as the information they gave out would have had to have been rehearsed for months to get right like they did.
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Fairly certain that was a hoax. In any case, discussing SRA in depth without any reference to the cows is starting to look like derailing.
 
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comrade666 said:
The latter. She inconsistently claims to have no memory of her childhood abuse but she has consistently claimed to be aware of trauma in her teenage years. Occasionally, as you've spotted, she heavily implies that her parents abused her, whilst in other videos she states that they have no idea what caused the abuse and are just as worried and desperate to find the truth. She can't keep her story straight.
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She also claims to have an introject of her abuser, that treats her/"the body" in the same way the abuser did, and yet she claims she doesn't know what the abuse is.
 
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Lurk said:
She didn't mention RMT in the book - just therapy. Her 'alters' would speak during therapy and the therapist (Jo) making notes of what she said. There were physical, documented signs of sexual abuse in her medical records as a child (the recurrent UTI's at 2). As Joker said, she won a CICA claim for what happened to her. Relevant quote from the book:

The CPS originally chose not to prosecute her father due to:
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Quick aside:

I have led a civil proof on accusations of historical child sexual abuse.

It is nearly fucking impossible to prove historical, concealed, abuse twenty or thirty years later. And I was only required to meet the civil standard of proof, and I still could not make all of it stick. (Enough stuck and the grandkids were removed.)

I have sympathy for the CPS specialists who make decisions about prosecuting these specific types of crimes, because proving anything is a bastard. You’ve got no forensics. Any supportive medical history you have (early UTIs, anal fissures, late bed wetting etc) were accompanied at the time by a reasonable story from the parents, so trying to overturn that later is very difficult. Your victim’s memory is fucking scrambled due to trauma. I don’t mean specifically DID stuff here, but any deeply traumatic childhood memory is hard to place in time, especially decades later. Deeply traumatised kids remember details that you can’t make sense of, and that your psych experts will freely agree maybe didn’t happen, because again, trauma scrambles your memories.

It’s fucked. Your victim will say “dad did this in aunty Nelly’s house, I remember I was in cousin Sally’s bottom bunk bed” and the defendant will be able to produce a witness that there never were any bunk beds in aunty Nelly’s house. That right there has a judge or jury wondering how much they can rely on your victim‘s evidence. And shield legislation be damned, your victim WILL be character assassinated on the stand. Their psych history - which will include any substance or addiction problems and if the defence are quick about it, any suggestion of sexual dysfunction or promiscuity - becomes a subject of absorbing interest. The family members who covered up for the rapist at the time will double down on it, and there will be a string of family members saying your victim is a liar and a fantasist.

The entire experience is absolutely harrowing for your victim, who is often quite fragile due to their CSA to start with.

And then the judge decides their recall was a bit iffy, and lo and behold, nothing is proved against the defendant.

It’s fucked. If you have seen it even once, it’s not a process you would put anyone through lightly. And no, that’s not fair, and it’s not justice. But it’s not fair to put the fragile through the meat grinder when you know, on a cold hard review of what evidence you’ve got, that your victim will never be found to be more credible than the defendant.
 
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Here are two videos Chloe recently deleted - more to follow.


















CHILD & NON-HUMAN DYSPHORIA! Dysphoric Alters! - Dissociative Identity Disorder

















WE BECOME LITTLES | Age Sliding! - Dissociative Identity Disorder
 
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