The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[BlueCandle]

Didn't he and his staff say that he doesn't want to address medical things because it would break his world?

During the indiegogo streams he got butthurt over people asking questions like that and just starting responding with statements like ‘I don’t know who delivers babies in bikini bottom? Who does spongebob pay rent to?’

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

Who does spongebob pay rent to?

(((Who))) do you think?

 

[Jumbo Gay Threat]

During the indiegogo streams he got butthurt over people asking questions like that and just starting responding with statements like ‘I don’t know who delivers babies in bikini bottom? Who does spongebob pay rent to?’

Of course Mr Enter would just assume everyone pays rent and never pay for this thing called a mortgage . Beceause god forbid we need more proof he has no idea how the real world functions.

 

[LiquidKid]

During the indiegogo streams he got butthurt over people asking questions like that and just starting responding with statements like ‘I don’t know who delivers babies in bikini bottom? Who does spongebob pay rent to?’

There’s a hospital in Bikini Bottom and a doctor there is a regularly reoccurring character. I think it’s obvious who delivers babies there

 

[Cat_Piss_and_Vinegar]

There’s a hospital in Bikini Bottom and a doctor there is a regularly reoccurring character. I think it’s obvious who delivers babies there

I think he delivered Spongebob in one of the specials. Said special also had Spongebob undo his umbilical cord in utero to eat the Krabby Patty that was being delivered by mouth so I kind of noped out after that.

 

[Tragedy of the Senate]

I think he delivered Spongebob in one of the specials. Said special also had Spongebob undo his umbilical cord in utero to eat the Krabby Patty that was being delivered by mouth so I kind of noped out after that.

It's Truth or Square, the mess of a 10th anniversary special. One of two reviews in which Enter collaborated with someone else.

 

[Just_a_Bored_Guy]

It's Truth or Square, the mess of a 10th anniversary special. One of two reviews in which Enter collaborated with someone else.

Actually:

Spoiler: Warning: old shit

He's done a couple others, mostly with other bronies.

It might be telling he hasn't done one in a while.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Actually:

Spoiler: Warning: old shit

He's done a couple others, mostly with other bronies.

It might be telling he hasn't done one in a while.

It doesn't help that the last two, Pie guy and Josh Scorcher, would likely be aware of the shit MrEnter has done given the former could probably be aware of Enter threatening Spongebob Writers in the past and the Growing Around scam drama given Pie Guy covers Spongebob a lot and did admit there were issues in Growing Around's fundraiser. Josh would definitely be alerted about some of the things Enter has done given Josh had to deal with some of the creeps that were exposed in the Brony community that were big names (like Toon Critic), Lily Peet, and Chris Chan.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

During the indiegogo streams he got butthurt over people asking questions like that and just starting responding with statements like ‘I don’t know who delivers babies in bikini bottom? Who does spongebob pay rent to?’

But, SpongeBob doesn't continually insert things into its episodes that force you to wonder about those kinds of things, and even if you did, the possible answers aren't as world-breaking and horrifying as the ones you'd come to in GA. "Who delivers babies in Bikini Bottom?" We've seen the hospital and doctors before in the show, we can figure that out."Who does SpongeBob pay rent to?" Probably just some landlord character that hasn't appeared yet because the writers haven't had a story that requires him, but if this character ever did appear, the world won't break as a result of his existence since we've seen other business owning types since the show's beginning.

SpongeBob is also an episodic and wacky cartoon with next to zero continuity and no deep "lore" to keep track of. Growing Around is not like this. He wants it to have a continuous story with real consequences that changes from episode to episode with an established world that has its own full history to keep up with. To put it a way he'd understand, this is like if someone criticized a plot-hole in Bojack Horseman and the response its creator had was to claim that Family Guy contradicts its older episodes all the time so it shouldn't matter if Bojack does it too.

For most of the questions being asked for GA, the only possible answers are extremely dark and disturbing for a supposedly happy children's show. In GA, we have parents dying of illness, and talk about wanting to do pandemic stories. Enter has established that disease and death are tangible threats in this world. Kids have all the jobs, this means they are the ones providing medical care. How does this work when they have no schooling or training? Did Molly's mom die because a toddler didn't know how to perform medical procedures? The audience is going to wonder about these things because he's written in plot-lines that necessitate these questions being asked.

 

[LiquidKid]

But, SpongeBob doesn't continually insert things into its episodes that force you to wonder about those kinds of things, and even if you did, the possible answers aren't as world-breaking and horrifying as the ones you'd come to in GA. "Who delivers babies in Bikini Bottom?" We've seen the hospital and doctors before in the show, we can figure that out."Who does SpongeBob pay rent to?" Probably just some landlord character that hasn't appeared yet because the writers haven't had a story that requires him, but if this character ever did appear, the world won't break as a result of his existence since we've seen other business owning types since the show's beginning.

SpongeBob is also an episodic and wacky cartoon with next to zero continuity and no deep "lore" to keep track of. Growing Around is not like this. He wants it to have a continuous story with real consequences that changes from episode to episode with an established world that has its own full history to keep up with. To put it a way he'd understand, this is like if someone criticized a plot-hole in Bojack Horseman and the response its creator had was to claim that Family Guy contradicts its older episodes all the time so it shouldn't matter if Bojack does it too.

For most of the questions being asked for GA, the only possible answers are extremely dark and disturbing for a supposedly happy children's show. In GA, we have parents dying of illness, and talk about wanting to do pandemic stories. Enter has established that disease and death are tangible threats in this world. Kids have all the jobs, this means they are the ones providing medical care. How does this work when they have no schooling or training? Did Molly's mom die because a toddler didn't know how to perform medical procedures? The audience is going to wonder about these things because he's written in plot-lines that necessitate these questions being asked.

If I recall correctly, he did bitch about family guy’s continuity errors

 

[Tragedy of the Senate]

But, SpongeBob doesn't continually insert things into its episodes that force you to wonder about those kinds of things, and even if you did, the possible answers aren't as world-breaking and horrifying as the ones you'd come to in GA. "Who delivers babies in Bikini Bottom?" We've seen the hospital and doctors before in the show, we can figure that out."Who does SpongeBob pay rent to?" Probably just some landlord character that hasn't appeared yet because the writers haven't had a story that requires him, but if this character ever did appear, the world won't break as a result of his existence since we've seen other business owning types since the show's beginning.

SpongeBob is also an episodic and wacky cartoon with next to zero continuity and no deep "lore" to keep track of. Growing Around is not like this. He wants it to have a continuous story with real consequences that changes from episode to episode with an established world that has its own full history to keep up with. To put it a way he'd understand, this is like if someone criticized a plot-hole in Bojack Horseman and the response its creator had was to claim that Family Guy contradicts its older episodes all the time so it shouldn't matter if Bojack does it too.

For most of the questions being asked for GA, the only possible answers are extremely dark and disturbing for a supposedly happy children's show. In GA, we have parents dying of illness, and talk about wanting to do pandemic stories. Enter has established that disease and death are tangible threats in this world. Kids have all the jobs, this means they are the ones providing medical care. How does this work when they have no schooling or training? Did Molly's mom die because a toddler didn't know how to perform medical procedures? The audience is going to wonder about these things because he's written in plot-lines that necessitate these questions being asked.

No, no, don't you remember? It's perfectly okay for Growing Around to insert disturbing, dark themes because other children's media has done it before.

It's funny how most of the Growing Around's issues can be attributed to the role reversal. If the roles were the same as in real life, most of the horrible implications are wiped away. No miserable adulthood, no issues with doctors and the world being grounded in some form of reality wouldn't be nearly as jarring. Sure, the crossdressing would be in abundance, the male characters would have little to do and the writing would still be terrible, but many of the horrifying elements wouldn't exist.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

No, no, don't you remember? It's perfectly okay for Growing Around to insert disturbing, dark themes because other children's media has done it before.

It's funny how most of the Growing Around's issues can be attributed to the role reversal. If the roles were the same as in real life, most of the horrible implications are wiped away. No miserable adulthood, no issues with doctors and the world being grounded in some form of reality wouldn't be nearly as jarring. Sure, the crossdressing would be in abundance, the male characters would have little to do and the writing would still be terrible, but many of the horrifying elements wouldn't exist.

Actually the show would still be disturbing if there was no role reversal and it was with adults in charge with the same concepts because that means lots of children are going to be abused in children internment camps and getting electrocuted for wanting to be kids.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Why is he going back to the 1920s when literally none of the characters were even born? Like, I'd sorta get it if we were seeing Sally's great grandparents or the town founding or something, but that's not the case. Just random characters from 100 years ago with no connection to anybody.

And the episode linked is just yet another crossdressing thing, of course.

 

[AnAccount]

He's showing 1920s because 1940s GA would be to controversial.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

During the indiegogo streams he got butthurt over people asking questions like that and just starting responding with statements like ‘I don’t know who delivers babies in bikini bottom? Who does spongebob pay rent to?’

...SpongeBob owns his house permanently because the house just sorta showed up there. There was even a realtor from the Opposite Day episode that showed who was in charge of selling those houses, and that same fish even showed up again in Truth or Square when we saw where his house even came from in the first place, so we absolutely know who they're "paying rent to". Even with its episodic nature and the later seasons nearly abandoning what little continuity there was, they still chose to keep that part and the hospital virtually unchanged.

Like, he's seen enough of SpongeBob and especially the first season to have known this right? More to the point, how does SpongeBob's worldbuilding suddenly negate all of those flaws in his own show? You should strive to be better than your contemporaries, not just try and meet the bare minimum that they set.

 

[coach_mclurk]

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Why is he going back to the 1920s when literally none of the characters were even born? Like, I'd sorta get it if we were seeing Sally's great grandparents or the town founding or something, but that's not the case. Just random characters from 100 years ago with no connection to anybody.

And the episode linked is just yet another crossdressing thing, of course.

Remind me again why he's paying out the ass for character designs for part 3 of a late season episode before having any substantial work done on episode 1?

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

Remind me again why he's paying out the ass for character designs for part 3 of a late season episode before having any substantial work done on episode 1?

Autism.

 

[Tragedy of the Senate]

Remind me again why he's paying out the ass for character designs for part 3 of a late season episode before having any substantial work done on episode 1?

He can't resist making pointless new characters just to bloat his world.

In all seriousness, I think Enter's trying to wait for most of the scripts to be fully written before actually finding out how he's going to make the first episode. A dumb strategy indeed as there's no guarantee the show will get positive reception in its first episode (remember how important first impressions are to Enter), so all that time writing other scripts will have been useless.

 

[coach_mclurk]

This may have been brought up before but I'm reminded about how Enter wants 175 episodes total. With his rate of $350,000 per episode multiplied by 175, that comes to $61,250,000. That is absurd to think a small time youtube critic can get a budget like that with or without network backing.

In addition to that, it took Spongebob 13 years to reach that many episodes. Can anyone imagine Enter competently running a show for that long? When he can't even run a kickstarter well for a month.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

He can't resist making pointless new characters just to bloat his world.

In all seriousness, I think Enter's trying to wait for most of the scripts to be fully written before actually finding out how he's going to make the first episode. A dumb strategy indeed as there's no guarantee the show will get positive reception in its first episode (remember how important first impressions are to Enter), so all that time writing other scripts will have been useless.

Let’s be real here, the whole thing is one big, autistic, utter waste of time and energy no matter how it eventually falls over dead.