Trump says he will sign order to temporarily suspend immigration into U.S - Concerns over COVID Transmission and Employment

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-immigration-idUSKBN223085

(Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday he will be signing an executive order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States.

“In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens, I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States”, Trump said in a tweet late on Monday.

 

[Sped Xing]

"Unskilled labor is some sort of weird charity system. Business owners hire minimum wage employees with no intention of benefit from the contract."

That's you right now. You can't have welders and truck drivers without ditch diggers and manure rakers. Sure, on an individual level, it's wise to try to move up in the world, but those bottom rung jobs arent unnecessary to the economy. They're just not profitable because the pool of people capable of and willing to do them is tremendous in relation to the demand.

 

[Abradolfus_Linclerson]

Is that taco before or after he rear-ends my car and is let off by the police for driving without a license?

Assuming, of course, that the guy is ever even caught by the cops. I dunno about where you are, but around here the illegals who get into wrecks drive off of their jalopy will still function, and run if it won’t.

 

[Kheapathic]

Assuming, of course, that the guy is ever even caught by the cops. I dunno about where you are, but around here the illegals who get into wrecks drive off of their jalopy will still function, and run if it won’t.

I had the benefit of being in a right-turn lane, on a busy road, during rush hour. He wasn't going anywhere, even if he jumped the curb the light pole would stop him. He wasn't going anywhere, except home, because laws like driving without a license or insurance is a fucking suggestion if you know how to season carne asada.

 

[Sped Xing]

Cumin, paprika, and cayenne.


Hack your lives, Kiwis.

 

[jje100010001]

This is perfect. I'm against all this "new normal" shit, but if leftists and "experts" flip their shit over this, their agenda will be even more patently obvious.

I completely expect corporatists to pull the "We need more H1B workers/underpaid Latinyx laborers to restart the economy!" shtick, and progressives to use the "It's racist-sexist-ableist-antitrans to stop people from immigrating to the country even during a pandemic/Trump is using the pandemic as an excuse to carry out his nefarious racist-sexist-ableist-antitrans schemes!" line.

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Literally like this.

 

[No Ma'ams Land]

Uhh you guys know that isolationism will cause your economy to stagnate right? Every economist knows that.

Tell Paul Krugman he can suck my hyper-inflated dick.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Didn't the Mexicans close the border on their own already?

 

[Coleslaw]

I don’t see what low-skilled adult immigrants have to do with a requirement that our educational systems absorb their kids in a manner which requires resources be deferred to teaching them to speak English, which even the poorest most neglected American kids can at least do when they show up at kindergarten. Jamal might not know his colors and maybe nobody ever read him a book, but at least he knows what order he is defying when the teacher yells at him to behave and he refuses.

We came really close to relocating to a wealthy ME country for my work a few years back, and it’s a place I spent a lot of time. 85% of the residents of this country are on work visas and the 15% who are citizens are spoiled beyond belief. Anyway not only do their public schools not teach in other languages (they teach languages, as is proper to educate kids on other languages, but they don’t teach IN other languages), only kids of citizens are allowed to attend. Everyone else has to go to private school. So, while my kid would’ve been attending a very nice American or British school which companies pay for, the regular Indian IT workers send their kids to Indian school which cost much less but I believe most negotiate some tuition coverage as part of their contracts. French, Australian, etc, all had their own. The absolute lowest level workers ie Pakistani and Bangladeshi laborers and such do not bring their kids, because they’re living in work camps outside the city.

Of course, they also don’t allow certain people in. A married foreign male with a work visa can bring his wife and minor children. Once male children turn 18 they have to get their own work visa or go home. A married foreign female with a work visa cannot bring her husband unless he also has one, with exceptions for certain jobs (women with exec positions, doctors, engineers, a few others. I am middle management in engineering so mine didn’t need one, but my company was going to give him one anyway just to keep things cleaner). So, they successfully ensure there is no chance for a bunch of irritable pointless men with no jobs and no ability to get them wandering around causing trouble.

The Gulf States make Apartheid South Africa seem like an egalitarian utopia.

 

[Comicsgeist]

Has nothing to do with American exceptionalism; but the influx of people we apparently can't turn away, but can't speak the language either. So we front the cost of damn near double the staff because their illiterate children can't bother to fucking learn English. I'm not the fat burger in line screaming to speak English, I'm the baguette wanting the stars and stripes to fuck off. You should check out our social security offices someday, some places have shit posted in over 10 fucking languages; people don't bother to be better and learn English, but will fucking suck up every fucking dollar they can.



You are wrong, quite wrong. We got exceptional individuals pulling down the American flag and hoisting their Mexico flag because they can. We got burritos saying they're gonna reconquista America for the Aztlan Empire; an empire whose language they don't even fucking speak, because it's been replaced by Spanish. And the schools are filled with illiterates who don't value education, because their parents don't value it, and will openly tell them they don't need to know English. And there's some parts of LA, San Diego, etc you don't fucking go to after dark if you don't have dark skin or speak Spanish. That's not fucking integration, unless you're operating on some big brained Euro definition. We had an issue where a kid couldn't wear an American Flag shirt to school, because it might offend some of the fucking tacos (and they were worried about gang fights) who are so fucking good at integration.

The cognitive dissonance on the part of Beaners that bleat about 'white colonialism' never ceases to amaze me.
Then get back on your boats to Spain you fucking Conquistadors! And I don't want to hear about how your Elizabeth Warren levels of Mestizo DNA somehow makes you 'indigenous'. If you want to play that game I know plenty of Americans that are whiter than Casper who could claim reperations for slavery because of similar amounts of Black blood in their Ancestory.com DNA profiles.

 

[tuscangarder]

The working class aren't the ones creating jobs and stimulating the economy. Maybe the working class should learn a skilled trade. Jobs like manual labor were meant to give teenagers experience, they were never meant to be a sustainable career. If employers have to raise their wages, they'll either just move their business to a cheaper country or just replace their employees with robots instead.

The worker is more valuable to the economy than the capitalist, as you can see what is happening right now. Workers actually do create jobs by working. A business cannot operate without the workers. The workers are the ones who create the majority of the value in the business by actually working.

Most service jobs aren't able to replace their employees with robots or move to a cheaper country (as this would kill the job, like a maid, physical presence in that location is required). Jobs that can be automated, will be regardless, as that is the nature of capitalism. If there are profits to be made, someone will will be there to make them. Boo hoo if the capitalist gets to make less profit. If you have ever looked at a businesses accounting, the employee is being ripped off at an extreme rate vs the profits the generate the vast majority of the time.

Your comment about a skilled trade doesn't make sense because h1b visas are a thing and are specifically for skilled laborers and people with degrees.

However, capitalists would suck wages from the worker regardless of immigrants or not. States with low immigration have the same low starting wages as states with high immigration. So all of your points are dumb and ill informed.

 

[Hard Toothbrush]

If you think about it, Trump's wall and this order is just Trump following the #stayathome hashtag.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

The US had huge problems with Germans (the original reason for English language laws), the Irish (Gangs of New York isn't a documentary, but Scorcese didn't pull it out of his ass either) and Italians (Al Capone, before that bomb throwing anarchists).

And these guys arrived in the days when there was no welfare and a large percentage of immigrants either went home or died because they couldn't make it in the USA. A system that brutally weeded out losers and charity cases.

It wasn't until the 1924 Immigration Act restricting how many new people could come in that things started to settle down and, by WW2, Micks and Dagos became as American as Shackleford Van Daterape III or Leroy Brown.

Exactly. German anarchists caused chaos with the Haymarket Riots, Sacco and Venzetti the same. Fenian filth were funding and arming the IRA well into the 90's. Why would Mexicans, (who are hardly even Spanish, genetically) or any other catholic filth assimilate any better. They have dual loyalties. To a commie pope.

The worker is more valuable to the economy than the capitalist, as you can see what is happening right now. Workers actually do create jobs by working. A business cannot operate without the workers. The workers are the ones who create the majority of the value in the business by actually working.

Most service jobs aren't able to replace their employees with robots or move to a cheaper country (as this would kill the job, like a maid, physical presence in that location is required). Jobs that can be automated, will be regardless, as that is the nature of capitalism. If there are profits to be made, someone will will be there to make them. Boo hoo if the capitalist gets to make less profit. If you have ever looked at a businesses accounting, the employee is being ripped off at an extreme rate vs the profits the generate the vast majority of the time.

Your comment about a skilled trade doesn't make sense because h1b visas are a thing and are specifically for skilled laborers and people with degrees.

However, capitalists would suck wages from the worker regardless of immigrants or not. States with low immigration have the same low starting wages as states with high immigration. So all of your points are dumb and ill informed.

You say "suck wages from the worker" as if those employees could even work without the capitalist providing the means of production, at risk to himself. Most "workers" are dependent, degenerate, lazy scrouts lacking motivation to suffer the pangs of personal financial austerity necessary to purchase their own means of production, and therefor deserve their lot in life.
I'm all for cutting the fat, lazy, generationally wealthy capitalist out of the equation if, and ONLY if, it means glorifying and replicating the Petit Bourgeois. Kulaks are the optimal model.

 

[Sped Xing]

For checks and balances, I think we should go to Scythian rules. Women may not marry until they present their beau with the severed head of an enemy.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

You say "suck wages from the worker" as if those employees could even work without the capitalist providing the means of production, at risk to himself. Most "workers" are dependent, degenerate, lazy scrouts lacking motivation to suffer the pangs of personal financial austerity necessary to purchase their own means of production, and therefor deserve their lot in life.
I'm all for cutting the fat, lazy, generationally wealthy capitalist out of the equation if, and ONLY if, it means glorifying and replicating the Petit Bourgeois. Kulaks are the optimal model.

I'd be VERY interested to know just how you make your shekels, @tuscangarder ? Do tell.Me? I'm a kulak.

 

[tuscangarder]

You say "suck wages from the worker" as if those employees could even work without the capitalist providing the means of production, at risk to himself. Most "workers" are dependent, degenerate, lazy scrouts lacking motivation to suffer the pangs of personal financial austerity necessary to purchase their own means of production, and therefor deserve their lot in life.
I'm all for cutting the fat, lazy, generationally wealthy capitalist out of the equation if, and ONLY if, it means glorifying and replicating the Petit Bourgeois. Kulaks are the optimal model.

Yeah, okay take your globalist anti worker rhetoric somewhere else. You hate white people, we get it, move along. Racist.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Exactly. German anarchists caused chaos with the Haymarket Riots, Sacco and Venzetti the same. Fenian filth were funding and arming the IRA well into the 90's. Why would Mexicans, (who are hardly even Spanish, genetically) or any other catholic filth assimilate any better. They have dual loyalties. To a commie pope.

Don't forget the Pentacostalist Latinos. Many might still vote Democrat in the US out of communal loyalty but they have social views even more conservative than your typical black church. Although of course the open borders crowd ignores them like they do Muslims who have similar conservative views.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

Yeah, okay take your globalist anti worker rhetoric somewhere else. You hate white people, we get it, move along. Racist.

I prefer White people, tbh. Why won't you answer the question? How do earn an income? Did you purchase yourmeans of production? Or do you work for a venture which you hope to subvert and steal from it's rightful owners? And to call me a "globalist"? LMAO. Says the "internationalist " commie .. gross.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Yeah, okay take your globalist anti worker rhetoric somewhere else. You hate white people, we get it, move along. Racist.

Answer @Rafal Gan Ganowicz . Or are you a parasite, sucking on the blood of your parents/trust fund?

 

[tuscangarder]

I prefer White people, tbh. Why won't you answer the question? How do earn an income? Did you purchase yourmeans of production? Or do you work for a venture which you hope to subvert and steal from it's rightful owners? And to call me a "globalist"? LMAO. Says the "internationalist " commie .. gross.

I'm not an internationalist, I'm a nationalist re-tard. Keep spreading your hateful, globalist, anti-worker rhetoric. You claim to prefer whites but sure don't speak of them very highly. You're an anti-white, anti-worker, globalist, suck a capitalists pee pee, racist shill.

Answer @Rafal Gan Ganowicz . Or are you a parasite, sucking on the blood of your parents/trust fund?

Go suck Cuomo pee pee so you can get your unemployment cheque.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

Answer @Rafal Gan Ganowicz . Or are you a parasite, sucking on the blood of your parents/trust fund?

I'm not an internationalist, I'm a nationalist re-tard. Keep spreading your hateful, globalist, anti-worker rhetoric. You claim to prefer whites but sure don't speak of them very highly. You're an anti-white, anti-worker, globalist, suck a capitalists pee pee, racist shill.



Go suck Cuomo pee pee so you can get your unemployment cheque.

Nope, no trustfund or parents' cash here. Worked hard, bought my tools necessary for my skilled trade, prospered. I suck off nobody. I believe the borders should be slammed shut and welded, btw so the "globalist" smear doesn't cut it. As for White people, I'd rather be surrounded by them than others.. This commie is grasping at straws. So @tuscangarder , what is it you do to earn money?