The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

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coach_mclurk said:
I did some number crunching. Took the average page count based on the season 1a scripts someone posted earlier, multiplied by 175 and got a total length of 5145 pages. For reference, the script for Grand Theft Auto V is 3500 pages.

For simplicity I just took 22 minutes and multiplied by 175 to get 64 hours of animation. My searches indicated that on average, a minute of animation costs $6000, which seems consistent with what I've seen, though I'm not in the industry. That comes to $23 million total (seems a bit low to me, maybe $6k per minute doesn't include audio, editing, etc). For a show with no pilot, no experienced showrunners, no storyboards, no plan to secure funding, and no plan on how to move forward. I'd love to hear Enter's genuine thoughts on these figures but we all know he only responds in "I don't know"s.
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Typical Enter responses:
"I dunno...how does X work in Y?"
"Sure, why not?"
"Maybe."
"I'm gonna have the moderators ban you if you keep asking that."
 
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coach_mclurk said:
I did some number crunching. Took the average page count based on the season 1a scripts someone posted earlier, multiplied by 175 and got a total length of 5145 pages. For reference, the script for Grand Theft Auto V is 3500 pages.

For simplicity I just took 22 minutes and multiplied by 175 to get 64 hours of animation. My searches indicated that on average, a minute of animation costs $6000, which seems consistent with what I've seen, though I'm not in the industry. That comes to $23 million total (seems a bit low to me, maybe $6k per minute doesn't include audio, editing, etc). For a show with no pilot, no experienced showrunners, no storyboards, no plan to secure funding, and no plan on how to move forward. I'd love to hear Enter's genuine thoughts on these figures but we all know he only responds in "I don't know"s.
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I think we all know that Enter made this concept as a playground for his own views and interests (crossdressing, and plans to put in a pandemic) and not as an actual concept for a show.
Numbers like these just reinforce that idea.
 
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tamago said:
I think we all know that Enter made this concept as a playground for his own views and interests (crossdressing, and plans to put in a pandemic) and not as an actual concept for a show.
Numbers like these just reinforce that idea.
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He literally made the concept after seeing some failed pilot and bitched about how he can do it better.
 
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Truthboi said:
He literally made the concept after seeing some failed pilot and bitched about how he can do it better.
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Of course.

Enter is like a lot of people on the internet who are in the cartoon/anime community. They grew up watching shows like Ben 10 and Dragon Ball Z, and fell in love with the story and characters. But then, spinoff and reboots of shows came out like Ben 10: Omniverse and Dragon Ball Super and they got pissy because the show didn't hold up to their high expectations. And then, they get disappointed and go on YouTube and make reviews like Enter or try to rewrite the series with their poorly thought out original videos, crossover videos or fanfiction. And just like Mr. Enter, they fail at what they're set out to do because they not good enough.

I mean, check out this guy from YouTube and his Ben 10 crossover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1M6ushU2E8&t=876s

This guy is like Mr. Enter, he was a fan but then he got disappointed by the directions the shows took and he obnoxiously took upon himself to fix it. He has unrealistic expectations and poorly thought out ideas. I mean his ideas can be good but he's not the one who should be writing them.

But you see what I mean about Enter? How ambitions but no talent to achieve their goals.

Fluoxetine Man said:
A failed pilot is at least something, Enter has nothing...
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True.
 
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Fluoxetine Man said:
A failed pilot is at least something, Enter has nothing...
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THAT'S NOT TRUE ENTER HAS THIS EPIC ANIMATIC TO PROVE YOU HATERS WRONG



Context: In his "commentary", he literally used this animatic as though it were proof that he was getting something done on his show to flex on the haters.
 
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Truthboi said:
THAT'S NOT TRUE ENTER HAS THIS EPIC ANIMATIC TO PROVE YOU HATERS WRONG



Context: In his "commentary", he literally used this animatic as though it were proof that he was getting something done on his show to flex on the haters.
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Great. Five years of planning for something a pro could finish in less than a week.
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coach_mclurk said:
I did some number crunching. Took the average page count based on the season 1a scripts someone posted earlier, multiplied by 175 and got a total length of 5145 pages. For reference, the script for Grand Theft Auto V is 3500 pages.

For simplicity I just took 22 minutes and multiplied by 175 ..
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Does this dude really have 175 episodes? Is he trying to be that Naruto Arc with like 200 extra stupid episodes that nobody liked but people still put up with because it was Naruto?

He is the worst type of "ideas guy"--he doesnt even really have a team to work with, and not anyone who at least takes it seriously, so he's apparently just sitting around feeling like a "creator" and that he's "working" and contributing: "I have THIS idea, and THIS IDEA for an episode and.... and... and why dont you do this, why dont you do it this way... oh, and I know I said this, but lets change it to this. I have a lot of ideas, see".

Fuck OFF, Enter, everybody in any working situation anywhere at all, ever, hates that guy. Stop coming up with more stupid worthless ideas just because they ambled through your sperg brain and at least pretend to get shit done and do some work and get the thing going through the processes. If youre not going to do, or (I guess in your case) are incapable of doing anything worthwhile, get the fuck out of everybody else's hair and let them get shit done.
 
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Truthboi said:
THAT'S NOT TRUE ENTER HAS THIS EPIC ANIMATIC TO PROVE YOU HATERS WRONG



Context: In his "commentary", he literally used this animatic as though it were proof that he was getting something done on his show to flex on the haters.
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he could have at least uploaded this before he asked for 300k for a startup. he literally had nothing other than drawings and scripts no one can be bothered to read as references for the startup video. at least, had he used this, some people would think that he is somewhat far along in terms of animating an episode.
 
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coach_mclurk said:
Around 70 scripts have been written and 175 episodes across 6 seasons is what he said he wants. I honestly think he's gonna wait until he finishes all 175 scripts before trying to animate ep 1. Here's to another 6-8 years of crossdressing and wasted commissions before ep 1 gets a storyboard.
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175 eps is a highly :optimistic: aim.

Most series can't even get that far and Enter with his utterly deluded and incoherent premise expects himself to get 6 seasons. Kek.
 
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66andtwothirds said:
he could have at least uploaded this before he asked for 300k for a startup. he literally had nothing other than drawings and scripts no one can be bothered to read as references for the startup video. at least, had he used this, some people would think that he is somewhat far along in terms of animating an episode.
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In retrospect his actual pitch video was really weird in how it makes such sweeping claims about the viewers own childhood by basically saying 'Remember how much your life sucked as a kid?! Well in this show you get to enact your revenge against all those adults who wronged you!'

Like, no wonder his streams were so full of people wondering what the fuck the show was about. He based the pitch after what HE would find appealing about the show, that being to relive his childhood and indulge in his closet fetish at the same time, and expected everyone else would just go along with it without any more information. This is an issue he still keeps fucking up with, since he seems to think he doesn't need to bother coming up with names or backstories to a lot of his characters since he believes that its the job of fanfic writers will do it for him. He can't leave this headspace where because he knows what the show is about, that means everyone else does too. Autism, maybe?
 
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BlueCandle said:
In retrospect his actual pitch video was really weird in how it makes such sweeping claims about the viewers own childhood by basically saying 'Remember how much your life sucked as a kid?! Well in this show you get to enact your revenge against all those adults who wronged you!'

Like, no wonder his streams were so full of people wondering what the fuck the show was about. He based the pitch after what HE would find appealing about the show, that being to relive his childhood and indulge in his closet fetish at the same time, and expected everyone else would just go along with it without any more information. This is an issue he still keeps fucking up with, since he seems to think he doesn't need to bother coming up with names or backstories to a lot of his characters since he believes that its the job of fanfic writers will do it for him. He can't leave this headspace where because he knows what the show is about, that means everyone else does too. Autism, maybe?
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Also it's really delusional he would already have fanfic writers as well as thinking all fanfictions would be gushing about his show instead of possible rewrites
 
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Truthboi said:
Or even a single episode


Also I just realized something, couldn't an adult uprising be super easy in Growing Around if they steal the cars and begin running all the kids over?
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Not even that. An adult male could start an exercise regime, get super ripped, and beat the shit out of the kids himself. Just get a group of 5 or so and boom, the kid's rule is over.
 
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