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I'm fascinated how this tard unironically thinks that he somehow "owns" people if they pointing out that he blocked them like a little bitch
Orbiter 🏳️🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.
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I mostly agree, but it's more complicated, like @BoxerShorts47 was getting at in spirit.
WigNat started out well defined: costumed LARPers, but it quickly turned into anyone that ostensibly agrees with AmNats on most things, but don't like Nick or Trump.
So, for example, TRS are called WigNats, but to my knowledge, none of them have dressed up and waved Swastika flags. I've read that they've kicked people out of their groups (called "Pool Parties") for yelling about Hitler or dressing up like Nazis in bars where they've held their events ("TRS WrestleMania") where Pool Parties and figureheads of TRS meet up. Can't verify, though.
AmNats started WigNat as an insult, so WigNats started calling them AmNats. But AmNats isn't really an insult to them because they define themselves as "America First Nationalists." WigNats have recently started calling AmNats the word "WeinNats" after Harvey Weinstein, who they've defended, because it's much more of an insult.
Whether implicitly (AmNats) or explicitly (WigNats) all these people are white nationalists. I'd say the best distinction between them is that AmNats believe that they can reform the GOP to fit their policy positions, while WigNats don't. Atomwaffen Division, The Base, etc. are mostly just feds/federal informants, going by court documents. If you look at TRS, which are considered WigNats, they've always made fun of the Siege/James Mason crowd, and called them feds, for example.
During the Groyper War, AmNats would call anyone asking a question to Charlie Kirk/TPUSA a cringe WigNat if he stuttered or didn't phrase his question in the best way, etc. It was funny to see a bunch of AmNats calling each other WigNats on Twitter a few months ago.
I don't like using WigNat for this reason. It's no longer descriptive in the way AmNat is, but these are words we're left with. I'm not gonna regularly point out the distinction because it's a waste of time.
It sucks when you're autistic and trying to view the community objectively and document them on the farms. Much like how depending on a person's view of abortion it's either Pro-Life/Pro-Abortion or Pro-Choice/Anti-Choice. You'll see the same kind of labeling bullshit when it comes to the far-left. E.g. the Chapo crowd uses "liberal" to define their mostly similarly minded enemies.
Here's a perfect example. You don't support Laura Loomer for Congress? Fuckin' WigNat. Goldy gave an interview to The Daily Stormer's Azzmador. She also fucked Richard Spencer. Lmao.
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No, wignats are general unoptical/badbrand image white nationalist. They're white trash, redneck, stereotype + nationalists. Andrew Anglin and most of 4chan would be wignats. Not coincidentally Spencer's initial success was because he didn't act like a wignat. He wore proper European clothing and came off as a regular white male, which is why hailgate was such a huge issue.
Siegers are a distinct sub-group of blackpilled people, sometimes wignats, sometimes tactical paramilitary types, that are trying to incite a race war ala turner diaries. They are too sperg to realize that normies are cowards and MSM controls the narrative and so their message gets drowned out though "hate" propaganda.
Yes, Bernie is popular because of economic changes. Both Bernie and Trump wouldn't be popular in 2000 or even 2004. A lot has changed under Obama and that gave both of them popularity. You are making a correlation not causation fallacy. Yes liberals do subversion but that's not why Bernie is popular.
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Once again, Trump's words don't match his actions. USCIS has been closed since March 18, so green card weren't being processed anyway. Another meaningless action.
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AmNats completely BTFO. You'd think they would have held off on blowing their load until they saw the actual executive order, but nah, they'd rather suck Trump's dick and prematurely own the WigNats. They're gonna have to add "Battered Trump Syndrome" to the DSM if he manages to get a second term.
Images with a white background shamelessly stolen from Twitter user @HyperBoraean, who I know lurks the farms from his Twitter posts. Listen man, your account is a content goldmine for this stuff, but turn on dark mode you heathen.
WigNats are gonna be dunking on AmNats all night because of this. Probably all week.
Imagine how butthurt AmNats are gonna be if Trump loses. If it's a close loss, I bet they'll blame WigNats for the loss.
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AmNats completely BTFO. You'd think they would have held off on blowing their load until they saw the actual executive order, but nah, they'd rather suck Trump's dick and prematurely own the WigNats. They're gonna have to add "Battered Trump Syndrome" to the DSM if he manages to get a second term.
Images with a white background shamelessly stolen from Twitter user @HyperBoraean, who I know lurks the farms from his Twitter posts. Listen man, your account is a content goldmine for this stuff, but turn on dark mode you heathen.
WigNats are gonna be dunking on AmNats all night because of this. Probably all week.
Imagine how butthurt AmNats are gonna be if Trump loses. If it's a close loss, I bet they'll blame WigNats for the loss.
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How's the relationship between TRS and Richard Spencer? It seems like AmNats love to use Spencer as 'The Eternal WigNat' despite him being so irrelevant these days.Once again, Trump's words don't match his actions. USCIS has been closed since March 18, so green card weren't being processed anyway. Another meaningless action.
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AmNats completely BTFO. You'd think they would have held off on blowing their load until they saw the actual executive order, but nah, they'd rather suck Trump's dick and prematurely own the WigNats. They're gonna have to add "Battered Trump Syndrome" to the DSM if he manages to get a second term.
Images with a white background shamelessly stolen from Twitter user @HyperBoraean, who I know lurks the farms from his Twitter posts. Listen man, your account is a content goldmine for this stuff, but turn on dark mode you heathen.
WigNats are gonna be dunking on AmNats all night because of this. Probably all week.
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Imagine how butthurt AmNats are gonna be if Trump loses. If it's a close loss, I bet they'll blame WigNats for the loss.
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Once again, Trump's words don't match his actions. USCIS has been closed since March 18, so green card weren't being processed anyway. Another meaningless action.
USCIS Temporarily Closing Offices to the Public March 18-April 1
Effective March 18, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services is suspending in-person services at its field offices, asylum offices and Application Support Centers (ASCs) to help slow the spread of Co
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AmNats completely BTFO. You'd think they would have held off on blowing their load until they saw the actual executive order, but nah, they'd rather suck Trump's dick and prematurely own the WigNats. They're gonna have to add "Battered Trump Syndrome" to the DSM if he manages to get a second term.
Images with a white background shamelessly stolen from Twitter user @HyperBoraean, who I know lurks the farms from his Twitter posts. Listen man, your account is a content goldmine for this stuff, but turn on dark mode you heathen.
WigNats are gonna be dunking on AmNats all night because of this. Probably all week.
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Imagine how butthurt AmNats are gonna be if Trump loses. If it's a close loss, I bet they'll blame WigNats for the loss.
Understandably, I was in this same mentality when Trump got elected, Nick and his internet fwiends/demographics are younger and they really need to grow up, but it grates a lot of people that you're trying to get the gang back together to rehash the ol' MAGA 2016 energy and calling everyone a cringe WigNat Nazi-ChiCom-IRGC-VietCong supporter if you don't even criticize anything. I don't have a dog to back between this dumb Alt Right sperg war, but the WigNats keep constantly being proven right that AmNats are still stuck in 2016 mentality. People just tell these AmNats (bluntly) that this shit just doesn't happen immediately, the Administration is honestly run by a bunch of Jews, and Trump just doesn't give a shit about "America First by Nick J Fuentes" when Charlie Kirk is constantly NTR'ing him from Fuentes like a god damn Hentai.
Given from what I've seen in their content for the past year, they parted ways with him respectfully. Spencer had basically crashed and burned the "movement" on his own volition, and with all of the idiotic Lowcow faggotry that came out of it, TRS slowly backed off from him but they don't want to start a war with him. They still sort of interact with his people like Keith Woods, and I think Borzoi, but they're not really interacting anymore.
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It can't be overstated that Buzzfeed Benny Johnson, author of such masterpieces as "Ronald Reagan's 31 Most YOLO Moments", has more influence within american conservatism than Fuentes or Greer or Malkin ever will
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Cypher's response is good. TRS and Spencer have parted ways. TRS is tight lipped, though they've loosened up a bit since WigNats united on dunking Scott Greer and AmNats. Until he defended Weinstein in a massive essay, they didn't really officially attack Andrew Anglin, despite Anglin attacking them all summer of 2019 (rightfully or wrongfully, doesn't matter.)
I gather they parted ways with Spencer because of his poor behavior: i.e. running a white nationalist think tank into the ground that was originally started by a millionaire and once had affluent donors. My guess is that Spencer fucking his best friend's girlfriend was probably the straw that broke the camel's back with TRS.
They've always had personality differences, despite ostensibly having the same message. TRS has always had a more working class vibe, despite Mike coming from an upper middle class background. Like the original Opie and Anthony type vibe. Spencer's family has old money, that actually stems from cotton fields lmao, IIRC.
Spencer is more idealistic. For a while he talked a lot about the hypothetical "white ethnostate." He's a flowery language guy. Hesitant to address topics like holocaust revisionism, JQ, etc. The TRS co-founders (Mike, Sven, Alex) are basically the opposite.
Spencer isn't relevant outside his core following, which isn't huge, but his YouTube stream does better than Scott Greer's podcast. AmNats use him as the quintessential WigNat because he's an easily unlikable guy because he's a flowery speaking, pretty boy, that played football in high school, was a fratboy in college, and is good with women. You can see why AmNats don't like him just from that. The other big reason why AmNats attack Spencer is because he's much more critical of Christianity than TRS.
Keith Woods (an Irishman that appears on Spencer's YouTube stream) is friendly with TRS. I've never seen any affiliation with Borzoi and Spencer, though.
I expect better out of Nick than his younger friends/fans (some of which are in high school). Nick has seen Trump do this repetitively. Within the last year he's decided to do apologetics for Trump. Fuentes is a young guy. Any of us that were his age can admit that young men are stupid and think we thought we knew everything. But we didn't become crypto white nationalists streamers that ruined all prospects of a normal career. I'd have more sympathy for him getting caught up in extreme politics if he wasn't so smug and insistent that he's smarter than any other man in the world.
They're definitely trying to get the band back together and recapture the 2016 energy, which is a fruitless endeavor. Take for example this TikTok. The song that's playing with Trump dancing on like SNL was the original meme.
I don't have a dog in the fight either. I'm just an autistic person that consumes this far-right/far-left drama like a modern day Jerry Springer Show, but I agree with you. WigNats have a much more tenable position because Trump hasn't fulfilled his campaign promises (besides Israel shit) and there's no reason to believe he will. Putting faith in a man that their sworn enemy, Charlie Kirk, as one of his phone contacts is retarded.
I've elaborated on this point before, so I won't go into as much detail again, but my original impetus for posting on the farms was I saw all these young white men that were falling for Fuentes' shtick of pretending to be a devout Catholic, muh never having sex until marriage, muh hating white women, and muh only willing to date/marry a virgin.
If you're genuinely Christian, and don't want to have sex until marriage, that's fine, whatever, you do you (or don't lol). But if that's the case, you're probably being raised in a community that has girls your age that feel the same way. Thus, you can get married earlier than average, have sex, and have a family. Nick has even admitted that he didn't take the "social conservatism" values of Catholicism seriously until after he was out of high school.
People have floated he's gay because of the catboy thing. Maybe, IDK. I think a more likely thing is he wasn't good with girls in high school because he was an obnoxious neocon into libertarian economics that thought he was better than his peers, so he never got a chance to get his hand under a gir's dress at a school dance. Then he got wrapped up in extreme politics, used the Catholicism he was raised on to masquerade his disdain for the Juden, and tied his persona to hating white women and pre-marital sex being bad. He's not a serious Catholic. It's a LARP.
I'm skeptical of any person that believes in genetic racial differences and claims to be a devout Christian.
For the AmNat lurkers that take him seriously and follow his advice: Nick Fuentes doesn't give a fuck about you. He's making good money off of you. He'll be long gone by the time you're a 38 year old virgin that's never touched a woman and has no hope of having white kids.
The last thing I wanna say is that I think that far-left people respect WigNats more than someone like Fuentes because they're more honest about their beliefs. They'd never admit it, though. I listened to a bit of Nick's show earlier and he had a few minute bit about exaggerated numbers, etc. It was obviously a dog whistle to the holocaust and people in the chat were making references to it and saying "Remember, good optics, Nick." Then he was like, "Clearly I'm talking about the corona virus."
Claims of being an irony bro didn't save him from getting banned off YouTube and it won't save him from being banned off future platforms. The Juden are great at technicality rhetoric. They see through him. You'd think Nick would get this, but he's much smarter than all us old pleebs.
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Has Little Nicky ever expressed genuine attraction to a woman? I know he mentioned Faith Goldy as his waifu, but it always sounded very passionless, like something he was just throwing out there as a half-hearted diversion. Other than that I can't think of a single time. I don't think he's bisexual. I think he's a 100% F A G who likes dudes who wear dresses and act feminine because then he can feel slightly more dominant and less like a bottom bitch despite having the looks and personality of one.
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He talks about his School Prom that's the closest I've ever seen beyond simping for Michelle Malkin. Personally, I think he's just Metrosexual; still hetero but his mannerisms are gay as fuck and makes him look like a closeted homosexual.
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If it were just his mannerisms I might agree with you, but considering his history, or more accurately lack thereof, with women, combined with all the "ironic" catboy posting that culminated in a crossdressing Aussie degenerate spending an entire day of his trip to America with Little Nicky, and that trap on his Discord who he was cool with before he disavowed suddenly, it's all pretty suspicious. Also, IIRC he only really started simping for Michelle Malkin after she defended him during the Groyper Wars, and was by far the biggest name on the right to do so and stick with it. Looks a lot more like an alliance of self interest than attraction.
Speaking of which...
Malkin actually used to be kind of a big deal on the right. Not Rush Limbaugh or Tucker Carlson huge, but she was a name that people (most importantly boomers, the greatest and most viable force behind mainstream conservatism in the USA) knew and her commentary and books would surface occasionally. Certainly more than Benny Johnson. Now it looks like she's tanked her career in one fell swoop by sticking with Nick "Holocaust? More like LOLocaust!" Fuentes.
There's a great irony there. Nick once said that nobody's life has been improved by an association with Richard Spencer but he managed to destroy a bigger name on the right by association than Spencer ever did.
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That's what most people forget. About ten years ago, she carried a bit of clout, and was usually platformed on all the mainstream conservative shows. I don't know what Malkin thinks she has to gain from hanging around Nicky, but it hasn't helped her, that's for sure.
My guess is that Nick is simping for MM hard is because he thinks that a big-ish name that boomers liked years ago will help him get into the mainstream. My guess is that his preference would be Ann Coulter, but I guess he'll take what he can get.
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I'm just curious why MM stuck around with Fuentes when it's pretty clear he wants some sort of white ethnostate that would exclude Malkin as a Filipino?
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Fuentes has actually said before that racial diversity is something that America is going to have to live with... to a point. This is where his vagueness about issues comes in handy. As near as I can figure, he wants to stop all illegal and most legal immigration to the country from non-white nations, but if you're not white and you're already here legally, you can stay. Probably.
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Whilst I know that most people here keep up with Fuentes because of how ridiculous he is, I'm still surprised when I read some of the comments here that seem to take him with a small degree of seriousness still, when he deserves zero consideration.
He is one of the worst advocates I have ever seen when it comes to either convincing normies or avhieving anything of productive value.
He is one of the worst advocates I have ever seen when it comes to either convincing normies or avhieving anything of productive value.
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That was pure cringe.Nicholas J Fuentes on TikTok
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Will he look back on himself in ten years and realize how retarded this all is? Or is he just going to double down on this type of stuff as he gets older and more irrelevant?Nicholas J Fuentes on TikTok
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The second one. It's always the second one.