Infected MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

[JaneThough]

Right, so on further research.... JESUS CHRIST this guy won't use one word when ten will do. About half of his posts are novel-length rants about Feminists, so I'll try to keep it brief.
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We'll lead with some doomer content that serves as half of the explanation for his antics: this guy doesn't just see himself as standing up against oppression, but as one of the last sane men fighting against The Feminists for the survival of civilization itself. And of course, like all armchair activists, he follows this up with an inspirational quote.

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And here's the other half: Mommy didn't love him (which I can believe well enough if he was this insufferable as a sprog), so now he's justified in chimping out at women for trivial reasons forever. Sure, your momma was calling you a Nazi and a terrorist back in the 60's, Freddy, you aren't just trying to throw a pity-party for yourself in the hopes that'll stop you getting dunked on.

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Surprising no-one, he's a big PragerU fan; he also constantly posts about black/gay Republicans with comments along the lines of "Oh, the Libs are getting so triggered and owned right now by this based conservative!"
The man is 50 and posts like a 16-year old on r/TheDonald.

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And of course he reposts conspiracy theorist boomer memes.

Here's his latest TL;DR rant, likely triggered by the post which drew this thread's attention to him. Notice the classic Cow Behavior of Randomly capitalizing Important Words.
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Of course, after reading this man's HIGH IQ posting, you might wonder: what does this legendary, genius specimen of Native American heritage look like? Well, wonder no more!

Spoiler: WARNING: True Adonis of the First Nations within

Imagine getting eaten out with that mouth

Now, the man isn't totally without redeeming qualities: he does seem to be genuinely passionate about the cello and has a dog he clearly holds dear to him. His art of "native life", however... is lacking something

Spoiler: One of those things is melanin

Now, I'm not sure which First Nation he claims to be part of, but given where he lives I'm going to guess he's claiming to be Cherokeeian. This art, above, resembles Cherokee dress, toolmaking, and cultural practice about as much as World of Warcraft resembles traditional British garb. In fact, the art, to my knowledge, lacks anything resembling a connection to any Native American culture beyond chiefing and wooden Indians.
TL;DR the man is off his nut and probably a Pretendian.

I hope this is an interesting overview of Mr. Zarro's issues.

I wish I could give you a Semper Fidelis for this. I went to his FB and could not get through a few posts. His "native" art is super stereotypical and Chris Chan levels of skill. I bet he has some great grandmother who was a Cherokee princess, like every other non-Native claims.

 

[Pina Colada]

No I completely kicked it. It started with MGTOW not being what I thought it was. I was a bitter asshole who blamed the world for me not having a girlfriend, which lead to me getting kicked in the balls by my younger sister (I deserved it) and getting my ass kicked by my dad for telling my mom "you're naturally a bitch for being a woman" a few hours of walking aimlessly around the neighborhood made me remember how my mother saved my life when I was 11. I was having chest pains that hurt so bad it legit felt like an alien chest burster was about to come out of me and everything else she did for me. Also there was MGTOW saying "Chris Hansen should have minded his own bushiness" and wanting to abolish the 19th amendment like it'll fix anything. So then I quit being MGTOW because I saw that it was really just a bunch of bitter sexually frustrated assholes and they proceeded to call me a "simp", "soyboy", "beta male faggot" among other things I don't remember. I then gave them a hardy "fuck you" and that was that. I would like a girlfriend by college is my top priority right now.

This may be a few pages old, but I'm honestly really happy to hear that; it's upsetting how they try to get at you from a young age. Sometimes it takes tough love to get a big wake-up call, but hopefully you've rekindled your relationships with your loved ones.

Regarding your goals, my advice would be to take things slow, don't be afraid to expand your horizons with hobbies and types, and not put all your eggs in one basket. I know it's pretty vanilla and I'm no expert, but it's also tried and true and well worth the effort to blossom.

 

[big ups liquid richard]

going back to the previous guy, he just needs to pick a boomer barbershop to get his hair cut at. Otherwise if you want to shoot the shit about fags with your stylist, it probably won't go over well.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Right, so on further research.... JESUS CHRIST this guy won't use one word when ten will do. About half of his posts are novel-length rants about Feminists, so I'll try to keep it brief.
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We'll lead with some doomer content that serves as half of the explanation for his antics: this guy doesn't just see himself as standing up against oppression, but as one of the last sane men fighting against The Feminists for the survival of civilization itself. And of course, like all armchair activists, he follows this up with an inspirational quote.

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And here's the other half: Mommy didn't love him (which I can believe well enough if he was this insufferable as a sprog), so now he's justified in chimping out at women for trivial reasons forever. Sure, your momma was calling you a Nazi and a terrorist back in the 60's, Freddy, you aren't just trying to throw a pity-party for yourself in the hopes that'll stop you getting dunked on.

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Surprising no-one, he's a big PragerU fan; he also constantly posts about black/gay Republicans with comments along the lines of "Oh, the Libs are getting so triggered and owned right now by this based conservative!"
The man is 50 and posts like a 16-year old on r/TheDonald.

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And of course he reposts conspiracy theorist boomer memes.

Here's his latest TL;DR rant, likely triggered by the post which drew this thread's attention to him. Notice the classic Cow Behavior of Randomly capitalizing Important Words.
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Of course, after reading this man's HIGH IQ posting, you might wonder: what does this legendary, genius specimen of Native American heritage look like? Well, wonder no more!

Spoiler: WARNING: True Adonis of the First Nations within

Imagine getting eaten out with that mouth

Now, the man isn't totally without redeeming qualities: he does seem to be genuinely passionate about the cello and has a dog he clearly holds dear to him. His art of "native life", however... is lacking something

Spoiler: One of those things is melanin

Now, I'm not sure which First Nation he claims to be part of, but given where he lives I'm going to guess he's claiming to be Cherokeeian. This art, above, resembles Cherokee dress, toolmaking, and cultural practice about as much as World of Warcraft resembles traditional British garb. In fact, the art, to my knowledge, lacks anything resembling a connection to any Native American culture beyond chiefing and wooden Indians.
TL;DR the man is off his nut and probably a Pretendian.

I hope this is an interesting overview of Mr. Zarro's issues.

Update on Mr. Zarro: If the NC Lockdown is lifted anytime soon, I may have a chance to do field reporting on this guy: a Cherokee friend of mine is supposed to be giving a lecture at a place he's booked at- where he apparently claimed, fraudulently, to be an "official liaison for the Cherokee people". Hopefully, he'll turn up and generate some juicy drama.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Right, so on further research.... JESUS CHRIST this guy won't use one word when ten will do. About half of his posts are novel-length rants about Feminists, so I'll try to keep it brief.
View attachment 1243756
We'll lead with some doomer content that serves as half of the explanation for his antics: this guy doesn't just see himself as standing up against oppression, but as one of the last sane men fighting against The Feminists for the survival of civilization itself. And of course, like all armchair activists, he follows this up with an inspirational quote.

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And here's the other half: Mommy didn't love him (which I can believe well enough if he was this insufferable as a sprog), so now he's justified in chimping out at women for trivial reasons forever. Sure, your momma was calling you a Nazi and a terrorist back in the 60's, Freddy, you aren't just trying to throw a pity-party for yourself in the hopes that'll stop you getting dunked on.

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Surprising no-one, he's a big PragerU fan; he also constantly posts about black/gay Republicans with comments along the lines of "Oh, the Libs are getting so triggered and owned right now by this based conservative!"
The man is 50 and posts like a 16-year old on r/TheDonald.

View attachment 1243799
And of course he reposts conspiracy theorist boomer memes.

Here's his latest TL;DR rant, likely triggered by the post which drew this thread's attention to him. Notice the classic Cow Behavior of Randomly capitalizing Important Words.
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Of course, after reading this man's HIGH IQ posting, you might wonder: what does this legendary, genius specimen of Native American heritage look like? Well, wonder no more!

Spoiler: WARNING: True Adonis of the First Nations within

Imagine getting eaten out with that mouth

Now, the man isn't totally without redeeming qualities: he does seem to be genuinely passionate about the cello and has a dog he clearly holds dear to him. His art of "native life", however... is lacking something

Spoiler: One of those things is melanin

Now, I'm not sure which First Nation he claims to be part of, but given where he lives I'm going to guess he's claiming to be Cherokeeian. This art, above, resembles Cherokee dress, toolmaking, and cultural practice about as much as World of Warcraft resembles traditional British garb. In fact, the art, to my knowledge, lacks anything resembling a connection to any Native American culture beyond chiefing and wooden Indians.
TL;DR the man is off his nut and probably a Pretendian.

I hope this is an interesting overview of Mr. Zarro's issues.

Thread when?

 

[Cosmos]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/g4bge8/drove_by_a_girl_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Holy fucking shit. “It’s good to have girls married off at 14 and pregnant by 16 so they don’t act like whores.” Just more proof to add to the “incels/MGTOW support pedophilia and sexualization of underage girls” pile.

Also, huge shock that he’s divorced like 80% of “redpilled” men. Go through one nasty divorce and you have carte blanche to hate 50% of the population on the basis of their gender. Maybe men who are in happy relationships aren’t redpilled because they aren’t bitter and nursing a grudge.

 

[JaneThough]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/g4bge8/drove_by_a_girl_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Holy fucking shit. “It’s good to have girls married off at 14 and pregnant by 16 so they don’t act like whores.” Just more proof to add to the “incels/MGTOW support pedophilia and sexualization of underage girls” pile.

Also, huge shock that he’s divorced like 80% of “redpilled” men. Go through one nasty divorce and you have carte blanche to hate 50% of the population on the basis of their gender. Maybe men who are in happy relationships aren’t redpilled because they aren’t bitter and nursing a grudge.

Something tells me he isn't the one who initiated that divorce.

 

[Buer]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/g4bge8/drove_by_a_girl_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Holy fucking shit. “It’s good to have girls married off at 14 and pregnant by 16 so they don’t act like whores.” Just more proof to add to the “incels/MGTOW support pedophilia and sexualization of underage girls” pile.

Also, huge shock that he’s divorced like 80% of “redpilled” men. Go through one nasty divorce and you have carte blanche to hate 50% of the population on the basis of their gender. Maybe men who are in happy relationships aren’t redpilled because they aren’t bitter and nursing a grudge.

Oh yes because the only women who sleep around are the ones that don't marry by age 14. There's never been a case where a young, married woman has slept around on her husband because she got married and realized her and her husband aren't sexually compatible at all because they waited until they were married to have sex. Jesus these people need to get out of their echo chamber more. Maybe go look at r/adultery or r/polyamory for examples of this exact scenario.

 

[Mrs Paul]

And we all know that men NEVER sleep around, amiright?

Update on Mr. Zarro: If the NC Lockdown is lifted anytime soon, I may have a chance to do field reporting on this guy: a Cherokee friend of mine is supposed to be giving a lecture at a place he's booked at- where he apparently claimed, fraudulently, to be an "official liaison for the Cherokee people". Hopefully, he'll turn up and generate some juicy drama.

This guy needs a thread, big time.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/g4bge8/drove_by_a_girl_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Holy fucking shit. “It’s good to have girls married off at 14 and pregnant by 16 so they don’t act like whores.” Just more proof to add to the “incels/MGTOW support pedophilia and sexualization of underage girls” pile.

Also, huge shock that he’s divorced like 80% of “redpilled” men. Go through one nasty divorce and you have carte blanche to hate 50% of the population on the basis of their gender. Maybe men who are in happy relationships aren’t redpilled because they aren’t bitter and nursing a grudge.

In civilized Western countries, first marriage at 21 or 22 is historically normal for women, and slightly older for men. This isn’t to say there weren’t girls getting married at 14, but it was not, in any way, common. 14 year old girls are not fully developed and it’s not good for them to bear a child, and 14 year old boys were not economically capable of supporting families on their own. And they could both still perform useful labor at home, or in the later part of the 19th century supply a wage. Go look at your own family tree.

 

[A Welsh Cake]

I HATE WOMEN

I RESPECT WXMYN

Please circle which one would get me laid.

 

[Cosmos]

In civilized Western countries, first marriage at 21 or 22 is historically normal for women, and slightly older for men. This isn’t to say there weren’t girls getting married at 14, but it was not, in any way, common. 14 year old girls are not fully developed and it’s not good for them to bear a child, and 14 year old boys were not economically capable of supporting families on their own. And they could both still perform useful labor at home, or in the later part of the 19th century supply a wage. Go look at your own family tree.

iirc it was mostly the aristocracy who married off their girls young due to political reasons. If you're trying to build an alliance (which most marriages were), it's best to do it as soon as possible which is why girls were married off so young. Like you said, most commoners didn't get married until their twenties because girls were still useful at home and boys needed to establish themselves enough to be able to support a family. I found an interesting Wiki article about it here.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

iirc it was mostly the aristocracy who married off their girls young due to political reasons. If you're trying to build an alliance (which most marriages were), it's best to do it as soon as possible which is why girls were married off so young. Like you said, most commoners didn't get married until their twenties because girls were still useful at home and boys needed to establish themselves enough to be able to support a family. I found an interesting Wiki article about it here.

Whoever wrote that was really taking a bizarre editorial slant. Feels like some angry neo-pagan mad that the Catholic Church banned 13 year old girls from marrying 20 something men.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

iirc it was mostly the aristocracy who married off their girls young due to political reasons. If you're trying to build an alliance (which most marriages were), it's best to do it as soon as possible which is why girls were married off so young. Like you said, most commoners didn't get married until their twenties because girls were still useful at home and boys needed to establish themselves enough to be able to support a family. I found an interesting Wiki article about it here.

According to that article, the marrying age was highly variable; the average age of marriage dropped like a rock after the black death, only to go up back up to the mid twenties during the sixteenth century and this was mostly driven by the economic reality of being a peasant in Europe without the ability to support a family. It does say that adolescent marriage wasn't the norm in Medieval England and seemed to be based around English ideas that pregnancies in younger women led to unhealthy children and damaged the mother's health.

Whoever wrote that was really taking a bizarre editorial slant. Feels like some angry neo-pagan mad that the Catholic Church banned 13 year old girls from marrying 20 something men.

I didn't really get that at all. Most of what the article says is true. Its not necessarily flattering of Christian Europe, but I wouldn't say it had a hard editorial slant.

 

[haurchefant]

MGTOWs are part of the circle of manchildren on the internet who are pissy and mad that they can't diddle children. They're furious that society at large rejects child molestation and holds pedophiles in contempt. Since they hold women responsible for all of their problems they try to blame women for them not getting to molest girls 12 and under. It's interesting how often it comes up, and I know this thread has speculated about the origins of this obsession with child molestation and pedophilic rape before, and there was an attempt to lionize them as poor fellas who are just desperate for love or whatever.

But it's pedophilia all the way down regardless of cause, whether its an innate need to rape children or if they're sad and desperate woe-as-mes. This desire for pedophilic child rape is endemic to the manosphere types, it will always come up. The similarities to troons and the narcissistic LGBTs who endorse child abuse like with Jazz is extremely interesting and tbh it suggests a common source.

The manosphere and troons are infested with narcissistic personalities and pedophilia. Maybe its one of those examples of horse shoe theory or whatever. When you go too far in one direction you arrive at the same place regardless of where you stand on the idpol spectrum.

 

[missmercury616]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/g4bge8/drove_by_a_girl_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Holy fucking shit. “It’s good to have girls married off at 14 and pregnant by 16 so they don’t act like whores.” Just more proof to add to the “incels/MGTOW support pedophilia and sexualization of underage girls” pile.

Also, huge shock that he’s divorced like 80% of “redpilled” men. Go through one nasty divorce and you have carte blanche to hate 50% of the population on the basis of their gender. Maybe men who are in happy relationships aren’t redpilled because they aren’t bitter and nursing a grudge.

Just so you know, marrying 14-year-old girls and getting them pregnant by 16 isn't pedophilia. Pedophilia is the attraction to young, prepubescent children. What these guys are doing is hebephilia (ages 11-14) and ephebophilia (ages 15-19). It's still wrong though.

 

[Adamska]

Just so you know, marrying 14-year-old girls and getting them pregnant by 16 isn't pedophilia. Pedophilia is the attraction to young, prepubescent children. What these guys are doing is hebephilia (ages 11-14) and ephebophilia (ages 15-19). It's still wrong though.

I don't count those words because these subhuman specimens often use them to defend their predatory and awful inclinations by trying to pretend they aren't as bad. They're all pedos worthy only of lobotomization and castration to me dude.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

I don't count those words because these subhuman specimens often use them to defend their predatory and awful inclinations by trying to pretend they aren't as bad. They're all pedos worthy only of lobotomization and castration to me dude.

When the fuck did this turn into a thread about pedophilia? Hasn't it already been derailed enough? Unless you are pointing to a specific MGTOW supporter making certain statements, can't we just leave this subject the fuck alone? We already have a MAP/NOMAP thread fellas.

 

[santaclaus]

Have you heard of ZGTOW?

Spoiler: What's Z?

MGTOW's advocate for short-term relationships, sex dolls, sex toys, escort services and replacing the womans role for reproduction with surrogacy if desired. This way men can have control over their lives and domain. Responsibility with authority. Balanced and complete. Ultimately, if you take sex off the table between men and women, you see her value plummet like a rock.

However, the MGTOW perspective on sex is cold, and i would say lacking a soul. Most zoophiles practice bestiality, sex with animals, in a ethical, loving and respectful way. You could say zoophiles discovered the true value of human pussy thousands of years ago. They discovered that sex with animals is often just as, or even more pleasurable than women. In todays modern society, this ancient practice is indeed one of the most important tools to have in a MGTOW's set if he is willing to accept the truth. The truth that the golden vagina of a women, isnt all that its cut out to be compared to the many other species compatible with the human sex organs.

Spoiler: They like knots

 

[saralovesjuicyfruit]

MGTOWs are part of the circle of manchildren on the internet who are pissy and mad that they can't diddle children. They're furious that society at large rejects child molestation and holds pedophiles in contempt. Since they hold women responsible for all of their problems they try to blame women for them not getting to molest girls 12 and under. It's interesting how often it comes up, and I know this thread has speculated about the origins of this obsession with child molestation and pedophilic rape before, and there was an attempt to lionize them as poor fellas who are just desperate for love or whatever.

But it's pedophilia all the way down regardless of cause, whether its an innate need to rape children or if they're sad and desperate woe-as-mes. This desire for pedophilic child rape is endemic to the manosphere types, it will always come up. The similarities to troons and the narcissistic LGBTs who endorse child abuse like with Jazz is extremely interesting and tbh it suggests a common source.

The manosphere and troons are infested with narcissistic personalities and pedophilia. Maybe its one of those examples of horse shoe theory or whatever. When you go too far in one direction you arrive at the same place regardless of where you stand on the idpol spectrum.

I really think you’re on to something here, from what I’ve read and from people I’ve known personally who are into all this. I mentioned a guy in the Chateau Heartiste/Roissy thread months ago. You can find my post easily for more context I’m sure. Basically I didn’t really understand that he was “MGTOW” “PUA” “MRA”-ish while I knew him, but figured it out later. I also found out that his father was a registered sex offender and ex-teacher who had basically groomed his mom when she was one of his students. He got her into drinking while she was still in HS and married her (she ultimately had a serious drinking problem to the point that her liver is just FUBAR now). She became a teacher too and the way he became a registered sex offender was abusing a little girl under the age of 13 after he was already married and had 3 sons (though clearly he was a pedo before that based on his grooming of his wife). Obviously the actions of his father aren’t his fault, but pedophilia does have a genetic component. This guy I knew, like so many others who go the MGTOW/MRA route, seemed to go for younger women in general (like 8-10 years younger or possibly more) and date a lot of unstable young women and based his overall view of women off of the duds he could attract. He was also really into musical acts like Poppy who take on a childish persona.
Maybe I’m being unfair but it’s making a lot of sense to me.