Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[ineedmoney]

TBH I can agree what Trisha Paytas did was FUCKED up, and she fakes a bunch of things like being trans or anything, she's known to be a TROLL, but that's it. Some trolls harm people. But to go as far as a suicide attempt? IMO that's a bit too far. You've seen those Trisha videos and speculation is Thotiana or whatever is Trisha Paytas, again proving she is a troll, because those videos are SO poorly mad and make me laugh, regardless, this is about Chloe. And people somehow blaming Trisha for either (1) this whole Nan thing or (2) her suicide attempt is dumb. Trisha didn't put the pills or whatever into Chloe's hand and forced it down her through, she made a troll video online, went a bit to far, and hurt some people. She didn't cause a suicide. Chloe made the decision to take the pills/self-harm/or whatever was used. I don't know exactly. The Trisha drama is over and should stay that way, Trisha is a cow, but Chloe and Nan are way more cow-ish than Trisha because of their lying and CP and everything else that comes with them.

Extactly. Trisha is a troll but she cannot be blamed for Chloe "attempting suicide". It's not like Trisha told her to kill herself. Chloe decided to allegedly do that on her own.

 

[Gramh]

Was Chloe's fake suicide attempt even because of Trisha? As far as I understood it, it was because GL and some Twitter folk were pounding down her door calling her out for being a liar and she was doing all that to deflect.

Quick edit: Her fans were split on going after Tatianna, Trisha, and GL.

 

[AmbiTron]

Been keepin' up with the thread but it seems we've boiled down to mostly speculation and reviewing archived materials now. For a content creator taking a break can be a big hit in revenue, especially if they're deleting so much of their older stuff and basically throwing away money. I understand she's got other means of support, but she's the fame-seeking type. When will she come out of this self-imposed hiatus? Been awhile already in internet-time, people gonna be moving on and finding better things even if they're still willing to give this malingering cunt views.

Personally, I'd like her to come back strong telling us about how fucked up her system is now. Three alters went dormant, five of them offed themselves, she tried to off herself, thirty new alters moved in to salvage the remains. Oh and by the way I'm not Nin anymore whoever and whatever both de-integrated so I'm Chloe again now. Also I'm like, so super sorry abo-switches to garbled southern drawl- well howdy there pardners the name's Jessup and I'm a gall-durned cowboy.

 

[RikkuR]

This livestream is currently playing in the background as I'm downloading it and she was absolutely revelling in the attention following the Anthony Padilla video.

She also contradicts herself in the first few minutes, she says that the child alter had no idea where they were and weren't prepared, but in Anthony's video the child alter immediately says "I wanted to answer the question" as soon as she switches. Lol.

 

['Ol Stinky]

Been keepin' up with the thread but it seems we've boiled down to mostly speculation and reviewing archived materials now. For a content creator taking a break can be a big hit in revenue, especially if they're deleting so much of their older stuff and basically throwing away money. I understand she's got other means of support, but she's the fame-seeking type. When will she come out of this self-imposed hiatus? Been awhile already in internet-time, people gonna be moving on and finding better things even if they're still willing to give this malingering cunt views.

Personally, I'd like her to come back strong telling us about how fucked up her system is now. Three alters went dormant, five of them offed themselves, she tried to off herself, thirty new alters moved in to salvage the remains. Oh and by the way I'm not Nin anymore whoever and whatever both de-integrated so I'm Chloe again now. Also I'm like, so super sorry abo-switches to garbled southern drawl- well howdy there pardners the name's Jessup and I'm a gall-durned cowboy.

Ah, season 2. The reboot.

 

[cyberphobe]

I went to that time and didn't hear it. And I'd rather kill myself than listen to this shit again, sorry.
Archive: DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER Q&A | KYLE & NIN | DissociaDID (streamed 03/08/20)

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Spoiler: part 2

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a weird thing i noticed about these, as well as other videos, is when she even MENTIONS another alter's name, she dissociates and switches less then 10 minutes later???? its a bit questionable as she also says that only few alters can go into the front room and really "know" whats going on, so when alters like the little alters in anthony's video or kyle in this one, know exactly whats happening, it just disproves anything she says and lacks consistency, which just proves she's faking, and not faking very well either.

edit; layout fix

 

[just a person]

Trisha is pretty fucked up but she's got to be one of the greatest trolls of all time. She smelled the bullshit and knew all the snowflakes would easily take the bait so she "came out" as having DID. Take the bait did they ever. Truly an artist.

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This is from a group for people with DID who experienced SRA and mind control. This person details their supposed abuse vaguely, Chloe asks for the juicy deets. The person then responds with two LONG comments going deep into the details, I’ve spared you all from having to read it, especially since that person isn’t who were questioning here, and here’s Chloe’s response

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at least she’s able to show proof of empathy at times instead of saying “oh no I’ve never experienced anything like that”

Spoiler: Bit late on this I know.

She had been in therapy for what, 2 years at this point? Pretty much nothing in the scale of childhood trauma so severe that you develop a disorder like DID. Hearing about severe child abuse is unbearable enough for healthy unharmed people. Therapists quit their jobs and switch positions because it's so painful. Why the fuck would she want to know the detail? That should be awfully triggering, Chloe.

It would be a form of self harm if she had actually been abused. She wasn't trying to play therapist considering the response she gave after this person recounted their abuse (thanks for the dirty deets xoxo i need the research). This is a transparent attempt to pick up detail of a trauma survivor's story. I can't see any other reason why the hell this interaction would happen the way it did. Stinky. It's almost worse than how physical illness malingerers figure out how to bullshit effectively. Make up your own fiction and leave these people alone.

For a content creator taking a break can be a big hit in revenue, especially if they're deleting so much of their older stuff and basically throwing away money. I understand she's got other means of support, but she's the fame-seeking type. When will she come out of this self-imposed hiatus? Been awhile already in internet-time, people gonna be moving on and finding better things even if they're still willing to give this malingering cunt views.

I had the same thought seeing her delete videos during a weeks long hiatus. This can be yootoob career suicide, and consider how a lot of her fans are probably children with a fruit fly's attention span. Her ego must be reeling right now. I also predict "Nin" is going to split back in to Chloe.

The tumblr being deleted right after being posted here confirms to me that she's been lurking. The extra deletions are guaranteed a plot hole cleanup. Unfortunately for Chloe lies always catch up to liars and once they do there's no going back.

a weird thing i noticed about these, as well as other videos, is when she even MENTIONS another alter's name, she dissociates and switches less then 10 minutes later???? its a bit questionable as she also says that only few alters can go into the front room and really "know" whats going on, so when alters like the little alters in anthony's video or kyle in this one, know exactly whats happening, it just disproves anything she says and lacks consistency, which just proves she's faking, and not faking very well either.

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Right? She should take notes from that Entropy System channel. She doesn't switch on camera. She always cuts to the different alter when they're needed for a narrative. It comes off way more believable. But, switching brings in the views so I guess it doesn't matter how fake it seems or how it continues to sensationalize the illness that she claims to be destigmatizing.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

When her and Nan were faking being kids in the Disney video, they failed spectacularly at sounding like actual kids.

I wonder if Chloe will drop DID just like she dropped being an 'artist' soon as it didnt give her the attention she wanted.

 

[notpasta45]

No offense dog, but I don't get why are we arguing about if she was upper middle class or just plain old middle class. She wasn't anywhere near poor and that's all we need to know she 1) all her needs met, 2) probably all her wants met too, 3) was not pimped out by a family member to pay for drugs. Basically, normal childhood which makes no sense for the development of this disorder. comrade666 and others have provided substantial proof that she was much better off than many and I'm not sure why we have to get into the specifics of where on that scale she fell.

I think one thing, and not just you have said this, that has bothered me in this thread is that people have made assumptions that wealth = no trauma. (I apologise if this point has been brought up, as I've caught up with 30+ pages in a day.) It's pretty clear at this point we all agree she has something wrong with her, and if it's something in the realm of a personality disorder, it's common that those stem from and/or are catalyzed by trauma, abuse, neglect, and so on. Take BPD for example, it's so commonly comorbid with DID (I can go find the study on this if anyone is curious; I'm just on my phone right now) and often gets confused for DID or vice versa, but also BPD causes an unsteady sense of self which someone experiencing it could mistake as DID and yaddi yadda you get the gist.

I'm in zero part defending her, just wanting to make note that if she really does have some kind of trauma, her family's wealth doesn't negate the chance of it happening but obviously it does change factors and make many things less likely. It could have come at the hands of a babysitter, nanny, teacher, etc., especially if her parents weren't always present (e.g., cared for by a shitty nanny which is entirely possible from what we've gathered about her wealth here) which could have led to such attention seeking behavior we all see today. It's also usual that rich kids tend to exaggerate shit as it is, or think their lives are worse off than they actually are.

Additionally, her invading trauma spaces but CONSTANTLY sperging out about how trauma survivors need safe spaces is so disgusting. Like how low do you have to go?

 

[Bananasaurus]

I think one thing, and not just you have said this, that has bothered me in this thread is that people have made assumptions that wealth = no trauma.

You're absolutely right. In fact, Alice/Helen (severe CSA victim also suffering from DID who did a documentary and wrote an autobiography; has been brought up on occasions in this thread because many people consider her to be the most "legit" case of DID and Chloe might have borrowed some of her sob story from her) was also from an upper-middle class family.

However, Chloe admitted on multiple occasions that her parents are very supportive of her and devastated that they don't know about the supposed abuse Chloe endured, that she had never been raped or sexually abused (until recently at least, I think she claims she was raped in 2018?), and has described her childhood as happy and carefree.

I think people mostly bring up her family's economic status because she made videos whining about how her parents didn't buy her a bop-it or some other random crap she wanted, which according to Tumblr is severe child abuse. In actuality, she appears to be from a very loving and supportive household AND had a much more privileged upbringing than most people. And yet she suffered so badly in early childhood that her personality became fragmented?

I wonder what could have happened without her primary caregivers realizing? I wonder how she managed to be a completely normal child (no noticeable self-harm, OCD, alcohol abuse, fear of being touched etc.) despite everything she endured? I wonder why she never had any symptoms of DID until academic pressure started rising in her late teens/early adulthood?

 

[braginskayas]

Do we actually have any sources for Chloe's family being rich? A couple of people who knew her/knew of her in real life have posted here, I wonder if they'd be able to shed any light?

Not to shit on people's assumptions or anything, she just doesn't come across as super wealthy to me. She seems like someone from an average middle-class background - went to a state school but a decent one, family probably had at least one holiday overseas per year, lived in a "nice safe neighbourhood" but their house isn't a mansion or anything. Financially comfortable and relatively privileged compared to a lot of people, but not upper middle class by any stretch. I think the class system in the UK is a little different to places like the US, since it has as much to do with culture and connections as it does material wealth? Generally "upper middle class" involves inherited wealth, and/or having some kind of social/familial connections to the actual upper class - the kind of people you'd describe as "posh", who send their kids to elite private schools and have done for generations. A lot of actors and politicians fall into that category, for comparison.

Of course, either way coming from a privileged background doesn't necessarily mean severe abuse is less likely - if anything it's probably more likely to go unnoticed since it's easier for people with money and power to sweep things under the rug. I mean, in Alice Jamieson's autobiography she mentions growing up in a privileged middle-class family and the abuse depicted in that book is horrific. Not to say I think Chloe really experienced the kind of horrific childhood abuse she implies, just that it's not beyond the realm of possibility. I'd love to know what her supposed "trauma" really was, because if she doesn't remember it at all and showed no signs of post-traumatic stress in her childhood then I really doubt it's the sort of thing that she herself claims causes DID. In all the actual cases of dissociative amnesia I've heard about, people had at least some idea that something horrible had happened even if they couldn't remember the specifics, or showed other signs of trauma/abuse like bed-wetting, animal cruelty, behavioural changes or attachment issues. Nothing uncovered about Chloe's childhood/adolescence in this thread indicates anything like that.

 

[Cooking Mama]

However, Chloe admitted on multiple occasions that her parents are very supportive of her and devastated that they don't know about the supposed abuse Chloe endured, that she had never been raped or sexually abused (until recently at least, I think she claims she was raped in 2018?), and has described her childhood as happy and carefree.

I think people mostly bring up her family's economic status because she made videos whining about how her parents didn't buy her a bop-it or some other random crap she wanted, which according to Tumblr is severe child abuse. In actuality, she appears to be from a very loving and supportive household AND had a much more privileged upbringing than most people. And yet she suffered so badly in early childhood that her personality became fragmented?

Of course, either way coming from a privileged background doesn't necessarily mean severe abuse is less likely - if anything it's probably more likely to go unnoticed since it's easier for people with money and power to sweep things under the rug. I mean, in Alice Jamieson's autobiography she mentions growing up in a privileged middle-class family and the abuse depicted in that book is horrific. Not to say I think Chloe really experienced the kind of horrific childhood abuse she implies, just that it's not beyond the realm of possibility. I'd love to know what her supposed "trauma" really was, because if she doesn't remember it at all and showed no signs of post-traumatic stress in her childhood then I really doubt it's the sort of thing that she herself claims causes DID. In all the actual cases of dissociative amnesia I've heard about, people had at least some idea that something horrible had happened even if they couldn't remember the specifics, or showed other signs of trauma/abuse like bed-wetting, animal cruelty, behavioural changes or attachment issues. Nothing uncovered about Chloe's childhood/adolescence in this thread indicates anything like that.

This. No one is denying the fact that abuse can and does happen with more privileged families, I think all the main posters in this thread are pretty much well aware of the reality of abuse and that it can happen to anyone. It’s just the fact that, time and again, there has been evidence shown that she has a good relationship with her parents and they do genuinely care about her as evidenced by the conversation her mother had with Jamie. But, Chloe has constantly hinted at childhood abuse and when she was threatened with “homelessness” she said that, basically, if she couldn’t raise the funds needed that she would have to go back to living near her abusers. Because she would have to live with her parents again. It’s not beyond the realm of possibilities that she could have been abused by a neighbor or a trusted adult in her life or something along those lines and her parents were oblivious to it, but Chloe has pointed out before that neither she nor her parents remember anything like that really occurring in her childhood. Is it possible that her parents weren’t aware of it and that Chloe blocked it from her memory? Absolutely. But, given what we’ve uncovered, it seems like her parents really do love and support her and, while it’s not impossible, parents like that would eventually have to notice something is wrong with their child if they were being abused. There are just way too many signs children give when something like that is going on, even if they’ve been conditioned not to talk about it. Yes, some parents refuse to acknowledge abuse, but from what we’ve seen it seems like that’s not really the case with her parents.

We speculate on her parents wealth because she has constantly e-begged and talked about going homeless and how she doesn’t have much money and is taking money from her fans. There was one person that was posted about who pretty much gave up all their rent money (if I remember correctly?) to Chloe’s Patreon to help support her. If her socialblade is to be believed, she does not need to e-beg.

Also wanted to add: we’re also not saying that mental illnesses and disorders can’t happen to more privileged people because that’s just stupid and not how shit works. They can happen to anyone, regardless of wealth or how well loved and taken care of they were by their parents. But, DID is a disorder that develops in childhood and Chloe has pointed that out many times. Again, from what we have seen and heard from her, it does seem like she had a normal and happy childhood and her relationship with her parents as an adult still seems healthy.

 

[SummonTroy]

If you have some brain cells to kill I recommend watching both parts of the livestream just posted here running at the same time with the volume off. She ends up moving the same and using the same hand movements as nin and Kyle at the same time and so obvious all she does is change her accent and when you can't hear her there is no difference at all. She's such an awful actress period but the unedited livestreams are pitiful.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

One thing that’s been bugging me is that Chloe uses a baby talk voice when she switches to a little. Okay, it makes sense in theory since kids have higher voices than adults. However in practice it makes no sense whatsoever because the reason kids’ voices are higher is because their vocal chords are shorter. So kids are just speaking in their normal talking voice, not trying to put on a higher voice. So if Littles are truly Real Children, why the hell are they speaking higher than the natural voice? Kids don’t do that. I can get the voice being more timid or even more hyper, but higher pitched for the sake of being higher pitched?

 

[Cooking Mama]

One thing that’s been bugging me is that Chloe uses a baby talk voice when she switches to a little. Okay, it makes sense in theory since kids have higher voices than adults. However in practice it makes no sense whatsoever because the reason kids’ voices are higher is because their vocal chords are shorter. So kids are just speaking in their normal talking voice, not trying to put on a higher voice. So if Littles are truly Real Children, why the hell are they speaking higher than the natural voice? Kids don’t do that. I can get the voice being more timid or even more hyper, but higher pitched for the sake of being higher pitched?

I also noticed that she types like how adults think kids would when she was apparently commenting as her little (at least I think she was) on the Facebook status. “Sowry” and shit like that. Unless the child is under the age of three or four or is having difficulty with speech, they tend to stop pronouncing Rs like Ws and THs like Vs (ie: sowwy/sorry, eiver/either). They’re also capable of stringing comprehensible sentences together at 3 and older, though it can be fairly simple, especially around adults or older children who don’t “baby talk” at the younger kid.

I need to rewatch the disney videos, but from what I remember she did fine pretending to be younger save for the high pitched voice.

 

[another idiot]

I also noticed that she types like how adults think kids would when she was apparently commenting as her little (at least I think she was) on the Facebook status. “Sowry” and shit like that. Unless the child is under the age of three or four or is having difficulty with speech, they tend to stop pronouncing Rs like Ws and THs like Vs (ie: sowwy/sorry, eiver/either). They’re also capable of stringing comprehensible sentences together at 3 and older, though it can be fairly simple, especially around adults or older children who don’t “baby talk” at the younger kid.

I need to rewatch the disney videos, but from what I remember she did fine pretending to be younger save for the high pitched voice.

And even kids with speech impediments at least try to spell words correctly, not the way it comes out of their mouth. It's clearly just role play in videos but in writing it's even more obvious. Not only the "baby talk" but typing out accents too. Who the hell does that?

 

[comrade666]

I had the same thought seeing her delete videos during a weeks long hiatus. This can be yootoob career suicide, and consider how a lot of her fans are probably children with a fruit fly's attention span. Her ego must be reeling right now. I also predict "Nin" is going to split back in to Chloe.

The tumblr being deleted right after being posted here confirms to me that she's been lurking. The extra deletions are guaranteed a plot hole cleanup. Unfortunately for Chloe lies always catch up to liars and once they do there's no going back.

I have a feeling she'll split again but I don't know that she'll revert back to Chloe as that looks far too convenient. It was funny enough to see Nan's fans who had 'introjects' of Nan suddenly claim that they were dormant the moment it wasn't cool to be Nan anymore not that it ever was but these kids have some heavy duty brain damage.

I'd like to think Chloe is slightly smarter than that. For her to just throw away the whole Nin identity now that Nan is gone would be a big red flag when considering the authenticity of her story. It was already awfully convenient when Nan and Chloe kept splitting one after the other into alters that were better suited to date each other until Chloe finally split into 'Nin' who perfectly matched 'Nan' and even had a cute couple name.
But that was before anyone was openly scrutinising her behaviour. She was free to run her scam however she wanted and she was enjoying it so much she got carried away.

Now, she's in damage control mode, she's hiding the evidence, and she'll be more careful. But unfortunately for her, most of her video library has been archived and her old associates are coming forward with information that further pokes holes in her story.

I think one thing, and not just you have said this, that has bothered me in this thread is that people have made assumptions that wealth = no trauma.

No one made that assumption. But as we're discussing Chloe who has frequently dropped hints that she grew up seriously neglected and on the border of poverty, it isn't relevant. Chloe isn't claiming to have been wealthy, she's claiming the opposite. Furthermore, she's claiming that financial hardships were in some way responsible for some of her trauma. This is about Chloe, not social outreach for battered aristocrats.

Do we actually have any sources for Chloe's family being rich? A couple of people who knew her/knew of her in real life have posted here, I wonder if they'd be able to shed any light?

From my own research, I'm fairly confident I know who her Father is, and from what I can see, he's fairly successful. Her family home is of a decent size in an affluent area - it's easy enough to find her parents address if you want to do so yourself but I'd rather not draw any excessive attention to myself by doxxing her parents just to prove a point.

'Craig' who posts here and confirmed his identity is a former university friend so wouldn't have known her in Colchester. The childhood friend has gone silent in the last few days but try asking them. And another 'university friend' who contacted me privately didn't verify their identity and didn't have anything valuable to say in any case.

Ultimately, Chloe didn't come from poverty despite frequently hinting that she did. The class system is subtly different in every country but there is always a clear distinction between those who are able to support themselves and those who are crushed by the system. The latter suffer greatly whilst the former get by, sometimes comfortably. This isn't the time to delve into class and whether one is fairer than the other - but what Chloe alludes to have lived through as a child is not the reality and is an insult to children of the true working class who know what it means to suffer.
INB4

 

[HighOnLife]

Does anyone have a list of all the major inconsistencies with Chloe?

A lot of the recent points raised seem flimsy as hell and I can’t remember all the zingers besides the shit that happened in college and the problems with Pottergate.

 

[comrade666]

Does anyone have a list of all the major inconsistencies with Chloe?

A lot of the recent points raised seem flimsy as hell and I can’t remember all the zingers besides the shit that happened in college and the problems with Pottergate.

Start by reading the OP. Then read her timeline listed at the top of the OP. All of the major inconsistencies are glaringly obvious from reading that. If you're still confused and don't want to read 180 pages, then read the highlights.

 

[heterotic]

cowboy

Apparently in DID lore this means

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