Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

Weird how, in the daily life video, she switches out seemingly with no triggers when alone but when with her parent (I’m assuming it’s one of her parents, anyways)

It is odd how her family home is a trigger because it’s supposedly close to her abusers, and her parents (if they themselves weren’t involved) overlooked it or are indifferent enough she would feel unsafe returning, but this video I’m completely assuming is her waking up in her safe, nice home and being driven by a parent or caretaker.

Also, I’m slightly dumb because the first time I watched it I thought she was filming herself tossing her shit in her car and then climbing into the driver’s seat. It doesn’t immediately come to mind to Brits drive on the wrong side of the road. 🤨
 
That's interesting, she used to say she switches a lot, but in the Disney video I remember her saying that she barely switches compared to Nan.

Well, at the end of the Disney video, Nan basically said Chloe’s “little” is stuck and hadn’t switched out with another alter at all since she came out. So, you know, there’s your convenient excuse for why she didn’t switch a lot.

It is odd how her family home is a trigger because it’s supposedly close to her abusers, and her parents (if they themselves weren’t involved) overlooked it or are indifferent enough she would feel unsafe returning, but this video I’m completely assuming is her waking up in her safe, nice home and being driven by a parent or caretaker.

Also, I’m slightly dumb because the first time I watched it I thought she was filming herself tossing her shit in her car and then climbing into the driver’s seat. It doesn’t immediately come to mind to Brits drive on the wrong side of the road. 🤨

Very odd indeed. Since her parents’ dog was in the video, I am just assuming she’s with one of her parents throughout the day. Possibly a friend later on or so when she took the dog out for a walk. Either way, there was no switching on camera when around that person and considering how she added in annotations when she switched while getting ready and doing her make up, I figured she would do the same if she switched out while with the other person. Not that it ultimately matters, but have some quick maths:
  • If this is her therapist she said was 2 hours away from her home in Colchester, that’s a 4 hour round trip not including traffic and any pit stops they make along the way.
  • Therapy sessions generally tend to last for an hour, not including the time spent waiting for the appointment.
  • People usually take 30 minutes to an hour when eating out, but since the restaurant looked empty, I’ll just say 30 minutes.
  • And let’s just say they spent an hour walking and playing with their dog and getting good shots of her doing so.
That’s 6 1/2 hours spent around someone (if it is, indeed, one of her parents like I suspect) she has vaguely implied to be one of her abusers. If her parents didn’t abuse her and she does feel safe and comfortable around them, that’s still a fairly lengthy period to go without switching (not counting the Nadia bit in the middle, she was alone when that was filmed). She’s switched out at random twice while alone and getting ready and that was a significantly shorter time period. It’s just strange, she’s talked before about how it’s hard to go outside because there are so many triggers for her and she switches out a lot on camera and on lives without purposely triggering herself. “Co-con” or not, it’s still a lot. But she went almost 7 hours in the company of, I assume, one of her parents and didn’t switch at all or even put up an annotation saying she had like I mentioned before.

Of course, it could just have been a good day for Chloe. But, considering how she switches out at random at the beginning of this video and in numerous other videos, it’s an odd inconsistency.
 
That’s 6 1/2 hours spent around someone (if it is, indeed, one of her parents like I suspect) she has vaguely implied to be one of her abusers.

As dramatic as Chloe has been, and given she’s put herself all over the Internet talking about horrific abuse enough to cause her psyche to fracture, and that one of her parents likely was the driver and the one taking her to therapy in this video AND the messages from her mom to Chloe’s ex telling him she will come get her daughter and make sure she’s not under any pressure, we’re supposed to believe enduring all that her parents wouldn’t be vigilant enough to check in or follow up with every neighbor, babysitter or non-nuclear family member?
 
Well, at the end of the Disney video, Nan basically said Chloe’s “little” is stuck and hadn’t switched out with another alter at all since she came out. So, you know, there’s your convenient excuse for why she didn’t switch a lot.



Very odd indeed. Since her parents’ dog was in the video, I am just assuming she’s with one of her parents throughout the day. Possibly a friend later on or so when she took the dog out for a walk. Either way, there was no switching on camera when around that person and considering how she added in annotations when she switched while getting ready and doing her make up, I figured she would do the same if she switched out while with the other person. Not that it ultimately matters, but have some quick maths:
  • If this is her therapist she said was 2 hours away from her home in Colchester, that’s a 4 hour round trip not including traffic and any pit stops they make along the way.
  • Therapy sessions generally tend to last for an hour, not including the time spent waiting for the appointment.
  • People usually take 30 minutes to an hour when eating out, but since the restaurant looked empty, I’ll just say 30 minutes.
  • And let’s just say they spent an hour walking and playing with their dog and getting good shots of her doing so.
That’s 6 1/2 hours spent around someone (if it is, indeed, one of her parents like I suspect) she has vaguely implied to be one of her abusers. If her parents didn’t abuse her and she does feel safe and comfortable around them, that’s still a fairly lengthy period to go without switching (not counting the Nadia bit in the middle, she was alone when that was filmed). She’s switched out at random twice while alone and getting ready and that was a significantly shorter time period. It’s just strange, she’s talked before about how it’s hard to go outside because there are so many triggers for her and she switches out a lot on camera and on lives without purposely triggering herself. “Co-con” or not, it’s still a lot. But she went almost 7 hours in the company of, I assume, one of her parents and didn’t switch at all or even put up an annotation saying she had like I mentioned before.

Of course, it could just have been a good day for Chloe. But, considering how she switches out at random at the beginning of this video and in numerous other videos, it’s an odd inconsistency.
May not be altogether related but that Nadia segment might not have been been filmes on the same day, pretty sure but could be tinfoiling too. You can tell with the nail polish. Nail polish for 'Chloe' sections is fresh, whereas for 'Nadia' the polish is the same colour and texture but chipped away and her nails are pretty nasty looking tbh. That's how I noticed it in the first place. Meaning that it was filmed probably a few days after. Chloe probably needed an alter to spice up an otherwise completely bland and non-switchy video with her parent/friend. First time posting so apologies for any formatting mistakes.
 
As dramatic as Chloe has been, and given she’s put herself all over the Internet talking about horrific abuse enough to cause her psyche to fracture, and that one of her parents likely was the driver and the one taking her to therapy in this video AND the messages from her mom to Chloe’s ex telling him she will come get her daughter and make sure she’s not under any pressure, we’re supposed to believe enduring all that her parents wouldn’t be vigilant enough to check in or follow up with every neighbor, babysitter or non-nuclear family member?
She did say on camera that her abusers are not her parents. They are supportive, caring and absolutely horrified that they haven't noticed the supposed severe abuse.
Even if they were not actively abusive, they would have to be severely neglectful at the very least in order for Cloe's story to make any sense. There are sooo many signs of child abuse. Abused children might be "moody", afraid of touch, withdrawn, inappropriately sexual, have frequent UTIs, wet the bed, might abuse animals or develop eating disorders, depression etc. Chloe keeps hinting at having been burned by her abuser. Did her parents never bathe her as a child and notice that she has burns for no apparent reason?

Drawing parallels to Alice/Helen again, she was abused by her father and her mother didn't give much of a shit about her as a child. Even then, she was able to tell that she developed OCD, anorexia and noted her "mood swings". Teachers noted that she was drinking alcohol and sent her to a psychologist.

A child that has been so severely abused does not just fly under the radar unless MULTIPLE people failed them.
 
Sorry to ruin your fun, bud

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Not that it's that much better that she only LOOKS half naked, though.

Whenever she comes back I'm going to start counting the times she slips up and uses "I" instead of "we." Isn't that disrespectful to your other ~VERY REAL~ OCs who use the body? Consistency, Clo-clo.
 
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May not be altogether related but that Nadia segment might not have been been filmes on the same day, pretty sure but could be tinfoiling too. You can tell with the nail polish. Nail polish for 'Chloe' sections is fresh, whereas for 'Nadia' the polish is the same colour and texture but chipped away and her nails are pretty nasty looking tbh.

I was going to say the same thing about the segment possibly being filmed on another day, but didn’t want to sound too tinfoil-y. Great catch with the nails! I didn’t even notice. If we’re gonna get conspiracy theorist, I saw that she wasn’t wearing the same outfit from earlier in the last part of her video when she was with the dog. Could have been her just wanting to change her clothes or something, so it’s not too big of a deal. But, there is the possibility that she filmed that segment on a different day, too, which would mean this wasn’t really a “day in the life” video as she filmed on separate days. If that’s the case, why lie about something so trivial? I don’t actually really care if she switched out her clothes or filmed on different days, though, because it’s not really significant. Just stupid if she did lie and imply/say this was all filmed on the same day because who cares? But if she is indeed not telling the truth, then she’s lying about something fairly minor and insignificant and it makes you wonder if she can lie about that then what else she can lie about?

Alright, putting my tinfoil hat away now. I don’t really care one way or the other how she chose to film this video, but I do find it interesting how long she went without switching like I said earlier.
 
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I also want to point out, at least three of Chloe’s early videos she filmed topless.


When she introduced Jade.


And when she just woke up and picked up a camera and filmed a day in the life, also without wearing a top.


Hard to imagine sexually insecure, victims of horrific trauma just casually filming themselves topless for the entire world to see. Yeah, your tits weren’t in the actual frame, just leave it up to audience titillation. So cunning.

The reaches this thread is making whilst Chloe stays silent... at least read the description before jumping to conclusions. Speculating on pointless shit does nothing to strengthen the argument against Chloe.

Regardless of whether she is topless, the archives should be here for posterity so that if she deletes the videos users can view the archives here, just after the originals were posted in the thread.

I'll start uploading the videos she's deleted over the weekend - she's in the middle of some serious damage control.

Very odd indeed. Since her parents’ dog was in the video, I am just assuming she’s with one of her parents throughout the day.

She actually lived with her parents at that stage. I think roughly for the first six to eight months of her channel she was living with her parents. Initially, she was staying with Jamie in Norwich but that didn't last long after the channel was born.

She did say on camera that her abusers are not her parents. They are supportive, caring and absolutely horrified that they haven't noticed the supposed severe abuse.

She has also heavily implied that her parents are her abusers. She alludes to being physically abused by them on Twitter - and we know from her Ask.Fm she was lightly spanked as a child. She openly states that she is not safe in her family home. In the video where she talks about how her channel saved her life she says she needs to escape the home she is living in as it is the environment she became traumatised in - her parents home. It's just another inconsistency in her story - when directly discussing her parents she'll say they had nothing to do with her abuse. When dropping hints and revelling in victimhood she'll heavily imply that her parents are abusive.

Even to the point where she suggests some sort of SRA ritual happened at her family home. I'll throw together a timeline of her abuse claims this weekend but after researching SRA in a survivors group on Facebook and having no idea what it was she suddenly claimed to have experienced it. She states she feels drawn to return to her family home on certain dates like Halloween despite 'never going back there' as it is a trigger. She states that she has a memory of looking out into her yard and feeling deep dread. She drops a lot of hints about what supposedly happened at her family home and none of it is credible but all of it makes her parents look pretty fucking awful.
 
It's just another inconsistency in her story - when directly discussing her parents she'll say they had nothing to do with her abuse. When dropping hints and revelling in victimhood she'll heavily imply that her parents are abusive.

Her fans will and defenders will have you know that inconsistency with memories is totally normal with DID and that’s what the disorder does and that even neurotypical people’s memories are faulty. Also something something “the brain makes up or distorts your memories and they change a little with each recall” and something about “false memories” or whatever. That’s my favorite argument, though, because it also validates the possibility that Chloe and other DID malingerers have false memories of alleged abuse and events.
 
The reaches this thread is making whilst Chloe stays silent... at least read the description before jumping to conclusions. Speculating on pointless shit does nothing to strengthen the argument against Chloe.



I'll start uploading the videos she's deleted over the weekend - she's in the middle of some serious damage control.



She actually lived with her parents at that stage. I think roughly for the first six to eight months of her channel she was living with her parents. Initially, she was staying with Jamie in Norwich but that didn't last long after the channel was born.



She has also heavily implied that her parents are her abusers. She alludes to being physically abused by them on Twitter - and we know from her Ask.Fm she was lightly spanked as a child. She openly states that she is not safe in her family home. In the video where she talks about how her channel saved her life she says she needs to escape the home she is living in as it is the environment she became traumatised in - her parents home. It's just another inconsistency in her story - when directly discussing her parents she'll say they had nothing to do with her abuse. When dropping hints and revelling in victimhood she'll heavily imply that her parents are abusive.

Even to the point where she suggests some sort of SRA ritual happened at her family home. I'll throw together a timeline of her abuse claims this weekend but after researching SRA in a survivors group on Facebook and having no idea what it was she suddenly claimed to have experienced it. She states she feels drawn to return to her family home on certain dates like Halloween despite 'never going back there' as it is a trigger. She states that she has a memory of looking out into her yard and feeling deep dread. She drops a lot of hints about what supposedly happened at her family home and none of it is credible but all of it makes her parents look pretty fucking awful.
I fully expect her to steal trauma from SRA/RA tumblr, and I do expect her to claim she's polyfragmented. Those are the key words she's probably using to search for biographies, personal accounts, etc. I'd be surprised if she wasn't constantly scrolling unwelcome-ozian's page. Cathy o'Brien saga when?
 
Whenever she comes back I'm going to start counting the times she slips up and uses "I" instead of "we." Isn't that disrespectful to your other ~VERY REAL~ OCs who use the body? Consistency, Clo-clo.
Not to be slightly off-topic, but the DIDler that got doxed in this thread (DID and Me) after fussing over how we're discussing Nan & Chloe immediately dropped the fallacious 'we' pronouns beside his faux-smugness when he freaked out and emailed Null. Funny that. It must be hard to continue lying when you're shitting yourself over your own idiocy. Granted, it's not like Chloe's fans have ever paid mind to any of the other numerous times she's has slipped up.
 
If that’s the case, why lie about something so trivial? I don’t actually really care if she switched out her clothes or filmed on different days, though, because it’s not really significant. Just stupid if she did lie and imply/say this was all filmed on the same day because who cares? But if she is indeed not telling the truth, then she’s lying about something fairly minor and insignificant and it makes you wonder if she can lie about that then what else she can lie about?
I tried to do a little research on pathological lying, but it seems this is a bit of an old concept, or not too recently visited in the psychiatric world. The major literature that appears is from around 1900... There's some stuff from around 2000 but it's a lot less. I'm reading this article from 2005 that seems to suggest that the psychiatric community hasn't been sure whether to place it as its own condition, or as a symptom or facet of other conditions. It pairs pathological lying closely with malingering, confabulation, Ganser's Syndrome, factitious disorder, borderline personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, histrionic and narcissistic personality disorders, and delusions. I'll include a spoiler below with descriptions of some these terms and how they're related to pathological lying, as it is relevant to Chloe. Some have already been mentioned here, with good reason. I thought this was an interesting take on how lying plays into these various conditions.

Confabulation
Confabulation describes falsifications of memory occurring in clear consciousness in association with organically derived amnesia. The patient attempts to cover exposed memory gaps with the confabulated materials. In pathological lying, there is no organically derived amnesia. In addition, the pattern of memory impairment in Confabulation is characteristic, mainly affecting recent memory, in the presence of intact immediate memory and attention and concentration. Confabulation occurs in Substance-Induced Persisting Amnestic Disorder (Wernicke-Korsakoff’s syndrome), Anton’s syndrome (cortical blindness), and anosognosia.

Ganser’s Syndrome (I believe this disorder, or one like it, was mentioned at some point in relation to Nan)
The lie in Ganser’s syndrome is limited to approximate answers, rather than the elaborate fantasies in pathological lying. In addition, Ganser’s syndrome is associated with other features that do not characterize pathological lying: clouding of consciousness with subsequent amnesia regarding the episode, prominent hallucinations, and sensory changes of a hysterical kind.

Antisocial Personality Disorder
Symptoms of this disorder listed in the DSM-IVTR include deceitfulness and repeated lying for personal profit or pleasure. Although it is debatable whether individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder lie repeatedly and consistently for internal satisfaction alone, given their predominant picture of lying for personal profit, there is evidence that they do. The pathological egocentricity characteristic of this condition may, however, be a key to development of pathological lying in these individuals. Although pathological lying may theoretically occur in Antisocial Personality Disorder, pathological liars do not often have disordered antisocial personalities.

Histrionic and Narcissistic Personality Disorders
Histrionic Personality Disorder is characterized by dramatic and attention-seeking behavior. These individuals frequently lie to attract attention and in severe cases, the lies may be so frequent as to resemble pseudologia fantastica [Seems to be an older diagnosis, mentioned in the 1900s papers. def: Pathological lying, usually for psychological reasons rather than for personal gain. The condition is considered to be a type of factitious disorder]. Their superficial and dramatic character and constant attention-seeking behavior often point to a diagnosis of Histrionic Personality Disorder. Individuals with Narcissistic Personality Disorder may tell ego-boosting tales to obtain constant approval from others. In this condition, lies are mainly told for the reason of self-aggrandizement, which is often obvious to the audience.

Delusions
These are false beliefs that are strongly held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary and that are generally not shared by others in the individual’s cultural context. Unlike the delusional person, when strongly presented with clear evidence contrary to the lies told, the pathological liar may acknowledge, at least in part, the falsehood of his or her stories or more often, change stories. Although controversial, it is worth noting that some have suggested that pathological liars may believe their lies to such an extent that the beliefs appear delusional.
 
As dramatic as Chloe has been, and given she’s put herself all over the Internet talking about horrific abuse enough to cause her psyche to fracture, and that one of her parents likely was the driver and the one taking her to therapy in this video AND the messages from her mom to Chloe’s ex telling him she will come get her daughter and make sure she’s not under any pressure, we’re supposed to believe enduring all that her parents wouldn’t be vigilant enough to check in or follow up with every neighbor, babysitter or non-nuclear family member?
Id start with that dodgy af looking uncle if it were me. No questions. just lock him up lol.. if anything did happen i'd put money on it being him, or the grandad, since that shit can trickle down family lines. Pedos always have that same weird doughy creepy face
 
Chloe probably needed an alter to spice up an otherwise completely bland and non-switchy video with her parent/friend.

Her videos with 'switch caught on camera ??? !!!!!' etc always get more views. People are usually way more excited to see one of the alters than Chloe doing an ''educational'' video, the same way videos with Nan always got more views than the other ones. It can't have escaped her that it's the 'alters' that are drawing in views and fans, and that's probably why she added that brief glimpse of 'Nadia'.
 
I think she said she was literally, like, 6 weeks post diagnosis when she started her channel.
Ya in the first video she was practically guessing at what she was saying. It's so obvious when you watch her videos from oldest to newest that she has had plenty of time to practice. An alter wouldn't have to get better at their accent over time. I think that's why she is starting to take down older material bc it doesn't match what shes says now, waaay too many inconsistencies.

On the bright side, every video she takes down is an obvious sign of covering her tracks and the thread will pick up on all of it.
 
Id start with that dodgy af looking uncle if it were me. No questions. just lock him up lol.. if anything did happen i'd put money on it being him, or the grandad, since that shit can trickle down family lines. Pedos always have that same weird doughy creepy face
Nah, that's just britbong genetics at play m8. Her uncle is an 8/10 here
 
Ya in the first video she was practically guessing at what she was saying. It's so obvious when you watch her videos from oldest to newest that she has had plenty of time to practice. An alter wouldn't have to get better at their accent over time. I think that's why she is starting to take down older material bc it doesn't match what shes says now, waaay too many inconsistencies.

On the bright side, every video she takes down is an obvious sign of covering her tracks and the thread will pick up on all of it.

Not just accent, but voice pitch as well. She's using much lower voices for Jade and Kyle now (compare the 'meet the alters' videos to the Anthony Padilla video for Kyle and the 'drawing the line on hate' video for Jade), and a much higher voice for Nadia. That sort of thing wouldn't normally change over time.
 
Because her followers aren't rational. You present them with receipts/evidence and they claim that's not proof.


I have't really seen a good explanation (other than amnesia) as to why they don't believe its proof so I don't really understand their thought process. They just say it's not proving anything and then attack people for being "bad humans"
i think they just want to be different. some of them have probably convinced themselves into thinking they have the disorder as well, and by watching Chloe they confirm their own disorder, to be cOoL and qUiRkY, to stand out. that's why they attack anyone who gives them solid rational reasoning because they badly want to believe their disorder is real. by pointing out Chloe is fake you point out the fact that their disorders aren't real too. it's gotten to the point where their disorder is part of their personality. (personalities?)
also the feeling of being in a community where everyone is quirky and different and cool gives people a sense of belonging.
the human brain is truly amazing
 
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