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The little coalition of western coastal states

How is that going by the way? After he used his 7 state NE Confederacy to stand up to Drumpf in the name of State's Rights and an implied threat of secession, I noticed Cuomo has consolidated his power back to the mainstays of NJ/NJ/CT. Was wondering if the other groups were still hanging together.

I'm not making this shit up: I went outside in public for the first time in weeks, and I saw some effeminate Millennial guy in skinny jeans and a blue/pink facemask that had the word "SLUT" written across it on huge letters. It's was like a cringier version of Shmorky.

Facemask fashion and slogans are gonna be a major thing and it'll be gay as hell.
 
I'm going to take the unpopular position and defend the TikTok hospital workers.
This shit's unacceptable. Do all the fucking tiktok you want. God knows our professionals have had their fair share of free time since the measures have allowed them to restrict the families and standardize a lot of stuff. At least after the outbreaks were contained anyway. But don't waste PPE like that.
With all kinds of recreational and leisure activities cancelled, suspended, or temporarily illegal in some locales, Godbear knows people need some sort of entertainment/fun right now. The biggest concern I think most have is seeing healthcare professionals performing on TikTok while wearing full PPE gear -- gear whose supply doesn't come close to fulfilling the presently unabated demand. To borrow a current-day phrase, "It's bad optics."

A little update from me since I last posted here after being tested positive. Powerleveling and MOTI but it's been a rough ride and I am tired of feeling like garbage.
That really sucks, fam. I hope you feel better a little more each day. :feels:

In michigan it's now illegal (or at least grounds to get kicked out) to not wear a facemask in walmart. I know, I know, precautions are important but this quarantine is driving people up the goddamn wall. How much longer before people are pushed to be civilly disobedient (more) out of pure spite?
It's not masks specifically that are required, it's anything covering the mouth and nose. The order says:
"Supplies of N95 masks and surgical masks should generally be reserved, for now, for health care professionals, first responders (e.g., police officers, fire fighters, paramedics), and other critical workers who interact with the public."
It also says, and I really should have seen this before, "no individual will be subject to penalty" for failure to wear such a covering.
I received an Emergency Alert yesterday that read as follows:

Extreme Alert
From the Governor's Office: The State of Michigan has extended the Stay Home Stay Safe order until May 15. Individuals are strongly encouraged to wear a homemade, non-medical grade mask when they leave the house. Some restrictions have been lifted. For additional guidance, see www.michigan.gov/coronavirus.

From what I heard on the evening news, masks might not be legally required (yet, anyways), but grocery -- and possibly larger/big box style -- stores are allowed to refuse entry to people not wearing them.

The legislature has not yet presented an official reopening plan.
It's possible the legislature is waiting to release anything specific until Whitmer actually announces/presents an actual reopening plan instead of teasing one for nearly two weeks. Whitmer originally wanted the shutdown extended through June, but relented when the legislature said lolno. It wouldn't surprise me if she extended the status quo two more weeks at a time until it ran through June because she's passive-aggressive enough to do that when she doesn't get what she wants.

Even if that doesn't happen, I still expect a party-line clash between herself and the legislature about the details of reopening. For someone who used the promise of bipartisanship to get elected, Whitmer hasn't shown much of it since taking office.

Supposed to be processed in some special way, tastes very good. Bought mine at the commissary on sale for $2.50. $2.99 today. CVS charges $6.99 for the exact same thing. Jesus H. Christ. No wonder nobody seems to shop there.
Even when people aren't panic-buying, CVS' prices for snacks and other grocery items tend to be higher than average. Sometimes, the independent corner party store has the same items for sale for less than what CVS charges. That's why budget-minded shoppers wait for CVS' sales/coupons or only get items there that they can't get elsewhere.
 
How is that going by the way? After he used his 7 state NE Confederacy to stand up to Drumpf in the name of State's Rights and an implied threat of secession, I noticed Cuomo has consolidated his power back to the mainstays of NJ/NJ/CT. Was wondering if the other groups were still hanging together.
Nothing much really. They never really did anything except make the announcement and the only one that pays lip service to it anymore is Oregon because it makes them more relevant rubbing elbows with Newsom and Inslee who have clearly went their own ways. The only thing uniting them anymore is their adherence to the "second wave" scare tactic that allows them to pick the winners and losers on what businesses get to open first and have exemptions.
 
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With all kinds of recreational and leisure activities cancelled, suspended, or temporarily illegal in some locales, Godbear knows people need some sort of entertainment/fun right now.
Thank fuck someone has some sense. Healthcare workers aren't fucking robots and taking a minute out of their day to do something fun and lighten their spirits is going to have a positive effect on morale. Right now it's the morale of healthcare workers that matter most, IMO. If it makes them laugh, let them do it.

You've got a problem with their sense of humour? I don't give a shit, because I don't see you on the frontlines, I see you on Twitter posting from your comfy chair at home.
 
Even when people aren't panic-buying, CVS' prices for snacks and other grocery items tend to be higher than average. Sometimes, the independent corner party store has the same items for sale for less than what CVS charges. That's why budget-minded shoppers wait for CVS' sales/coupons or only get items there that they can't get elsewhere.

In my experiences, CVS tends to be more expensive, but the stores are usually nicer and they have self-checkouts. Rite Aid is super cheaper, but the stores are always kinda ghetto and there's a long wait line because of Boomers and minorities trying to pay for everything in exact change. At CVS, I can just grab my energy drink and Slim Jim and make a beeline for the self-checkout, whereas at Rite Aid I'm stuck there all day.
 
Dude, I am leaving the minute I get a job somewhere else, maybe Flagstaff AZ , Amarillo TX or thereabouts. Living in a city on the West/East Coast without a car is not in my future.
Amen to that. Without PL'ing depending on what happens over the next month or so I very well may be doing the same thing. If my job goes, I'm will take it as a sign to fuck staying in NY or the Northeast (or any blue state) in general.
Fuck off we're full.
 
MOTI but whatever. This shit is just fucking stupid at this point we already have businesses not giving a fuck and just being fucking open. Good for them and fuck the governors. Now a group is getting ready to have outside bars with guns which sounds fucking awesome. At this point who is going to stop you? A cop that’s afraid of the coof? Fuck em.
 
I have no dogs in the race on what is the correct course of action moving forward but one thing I can tell you is a choice needs to be made. Either you open it up or you keep it closed. The longer things stay closed the more likely the government is going to with that because they do not want to undo the already month long lockdown just to have it flare up again. No matter what happens people are biting the bullet.
 
For anyone getting into spO2 meters and wondering what is normal I have a few tips

Alot of people do not breathe properly. Due to anxiety/stress ,for example , a person may breathe in short sharp breaths and high up in the chest, not filling the bottom of the lungs up first. In an otherwise healthy person; breathing in a slower controlled fashion, filling the lungs properly can mean the difference between approx 92 and 97-99,when standing.
I mention standing as even when breathing well if you sit poorly the bottom of the lungs are not given all the space available, compared to stqnding, due to the body becoming scrunched up when sitting and the 97-99 will become a 94-96. Sit upright with a good core strength and you will see better numbers.
Laying down you will see different numbers again. Breathe in a correct fashion laying on your back you might see 93-95 and this is because the lung expansion is restricted by laying on your back. Lay on your side , with the chest open and your upper arm slightly behind your torso with hand on hip, you should see a slight increase to 94-96.
During sleep it can go towards being bad for your health, even if well. When we sleep heart rate drops and breathing may also become quite slow and shallow. During sleep my spO2 is around 90-92 and heart rate will be mid to high 40's. The latter is due to once being a sporty person and the former due to my breathing being very slow and shallow. Help with this is priority this year!!

The numbers above are what i have seen and They arent in any way absolute guides to the state of your body but you might see more or less the same as me. Having just eaten a large meal will affect the numbers as well as your breathing so low numbers arent an immediate sign you are about to die.
I hqve just had covid or something like it possibly. I dont know as I wasnt tested but symptoms were there and i had the following issues:-

Getting very out of breath doing things like getting dressed etc

coughing up bits of brown or green sticky gloop in the morning. One time there was blood.

The feeling of pressure on my chest like a child was sitting on it

More effort required to breathe yet lung capacity was actually very good. Just took ALOT more effort to fill them.

Sleeping SpO2 went to 88 and heart rate high 50's to low 60's
(laying down awake on my side 92 and big effort required to get 95, and when standing it required big effort to get 97). Compare these to my healthy numbers.

So very very very tired all the time. March was just sleep.

Felt cold alot of the time and body temps were up to a degree lower than my normal. It was odd because only once did i go above normal. It was more of a problem getting and staying warm than hot with fever.

What is a fucker is i had EXACTLY the same issues back in November and 2 courses of antibiotics back then, too. I was fighting fit again come Jan but mid feb i was down again. Am still out of puff now and again but it gets better each day. I reckon 4 more weeks and i will be 100%.
 
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Kroger (known as Smiths, Bakers, and Fred Meyer in some regions) will now force all staff to wear masks 24x7 while at work.

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Expect Walmart et all to follow suit so they aren't shown to be doing less than the other big box stores. Aren't Virtual Spirals fun?
 


Interesting essay from a restaurateur in New York. It sounds like even if she could re-open, she might not even do it. It sort of reminded me of this classic Onion article -



Neurotic Self Important Lesbian melts down in 5000 overly dramatic words. I actually feel brain damaged from having read that self indulgent tripe.

On the night before I laid off all 30 of my employees, I dreamed that my two children had perished, buried alive in dirt, while I dug in the wrong place, just five feet away from where they were actually smothered. I turned and spotted the royal blue heel of my youngest’s socked foot poking out of the black soil only after it was too late.

uh huh. Suuure ya did. Down here in the South the Restaurant Business is the one that is almost guaranteed to come back. They can start doing dine in Monday. Wait lists are already forming. It's the one thing people want back in their lives. The one major return to normalcy they universally are craving. (Well that and getting the kids out of the fucking house and back into the hands of the Government Babysitters 5 days a week). Movie Theaters are probably dead. Big events like Nerd Conventions are dead. But small local dining? There is currently overwhelming demand for that.

How is that going by the way? After he used his 7 state NE Confederacy to stand up to Drumpf in the name of State's Rights and an implied threat of secession, I noticed Cuomo has consolidated his power back to the mainstays of NJ/NJ/CT. Was wondering if the other groups were still hanging together.



Facemask fashion and slogans are gonna be a major thing and it'll be gay as hell.

I get the impression that th eNew england States in Cuomo's cluster ar emore or less waiting to see how the actual Confederate States fair in their lifting of lockdowns before telling Cuomo to Fuck Off.

I received an Emergency Alert yesterday that read as follows:

Extreme Alert

From the Governor's Office: The State of Michigan has extended the Stay Home Stay Safe order until May 15. Individuals are strongly encouraged to wear a homemade, non-medical grade mask when they leave the house. Some restrictions have been lifted. For additional guidance, see www.michigan.gov/coronavirus.


From what I heard on the evening news, masks might not be legally required (yet, anyways), but grocery -- and possibly larger/big box style -- stores are allowed to refuse entry to people not wearing them.


It's possible the legislature is waiting to release anything specific until Whitmer actually announces/presents an actual reopening plan instead of teasing one for nearly two weeks. Whitmer originally wanted the shutdown extended through June, but relented when the legislature said lolno. It wouldn't surprise me if she extended the status quo two more weeks at a time until it ran through June because she's passive-aggressive enough to do that when she doesn't get what she wants.

Even if that doesn't happen, I still expect a party-line clash between herself and the legislature about the details of reopening. For someone who used the promise of bipartisanship to get elected, Whitmer hasn't shown much of it since taking office.


Even when people aren't panic-buying, CVS' prices for snacks and other grocery items tend to be higher than average. Sometimes, the independent corner party store has the same items for sale for less than what CVS charges. That's why budget-minded shoppers wait for CVS' sales/coupons or only get items there that they can't get elsewhere.

If I remember correctly Michigan's Emergency Authorization from the Legislature expires on May 15. The Legislature has already denied Whitman's demands to extend it indefinately and said "no we'll give you 2 more weeks instead" which is whay brings it to the 15th. Safe bet is they just tell her to go to hell regarding any further Emergency Powers. They already formed a committee to begin investigating some of her insane stupidity. Outside of Detroit Michigan actually has incredibly low numbers.
 
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Kroger (known as Smiths, Bakers, and Fred Meyer in some regions) will now force all staff to wear masks 24x7 while at work.

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Expect Walmart et all to follow suit so they aren't shown to be doing less than the other big box stores. Aren't Virtual Spirals fun?

I work in a factory making parts and we have to wear a mask on the floor.
 
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Kroger (known as Smiths, Bakers, and Fred Meyer in some regions) will now force all staff to wear masks 24x7 while at work.

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Expect Walmart et all to follow suit so they aren't shown to be doing less than the other big box stores. Aren't Virtual Spirals fun?

Wal-Mart actually already started that a week or two ago, along with temperature checks for their employees. I believe Costco is issuing them to employees, but I don't know if they're mandatory.
 
Apparently I am way more dependable then the usual speds who apply to deliver pizza because the manager has given me a shit ton of hours and my bank account continues to improve while everyone remains in lockdown. I am making roughly 20 bucks an hour, and gasoline is dirt cheap right now. This is making me wonder why I was ever a cubicle wagie, but its probably just skewed economics due to everyone being stuck at home.
 
I received an Emergency Alert yesterday that read as follows:

Extreme Alert
From the Governor's Office: The State of Michigan has extended the Stay Home Stay Safe order until May 15. Individuals are strongly encouraged to wear a homemade, non-medical grade mask when they leave the house. Some restrictions have been lifted. For additional guidance, see www.michigan.gov/coronavirus.

From what I heard on the evening news, masks might not be legally required (yet, anyways), but grocery -- and possibly larger/big box style -- stores are allowed to refuse entry to people not wearing them.
My state has a mask wearing ordinance too, but I'm not sure the extent to which it's being legally enforced. My store has signs all over that mention the mask ordinance and make announcements about it every half hour, but we were told by corporate that we're not allowed to actually refuse entrance without a mask. Some workers and customers have said they are going to complain to authorities that we let people in without masks, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

I see very few people without masks in the store though. It's very rare to see someone without one entirely. I am not really sweating the occasional non-mask wearer because half the people who do wear them do it improperly anyway, they might as well not bother.

A lawyer is suing our governor over the mask order. Even though I think wearing masks is a good idea, I think it's good to consider whether it violates civil liberties. Back in February my husband and I were talking about enforced mask rules and he said it would never happen in the U.S. because it would be deemed unconstitutional, I was more cynical and said it would happen anyway and people would just end up suing and we'd find out where the chips lay.
 
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