The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

I suppose when Troy Baker was talking about keeping an open mind what he was really doing was conveying subtle passive aggression.
I don't doubt Druckmann got on his nerves as he seems the type. He's pretty much the epitome of that dumb CEO stereotype that wrecks a long lasting company because he has to be surrounded by yes men and thinks he's a genius.

That said, and I'm not entirely sure if I have the right guy, but I think Troy himself has glugged that particular brand of kool-aid so it could have been him trying to be genuine. Again, I might have gotten him mixed up since I don't keep track of VAs as I tend to view them as worthless in the medium out of preference*. Especially the clout chasers, clique cacklers and dick suckers of today. Plus the VA industry itself is a fucking piranha aquarium tank that the custodians forget to feed constantly so they eat each other at a moment's notice. He might not want to have upset the present narrative so he very well could have been just passive aggressive.

*No I'm not crying because VAs ruined dialogue choices in RPGs... YOU'RE CRYING BECAUSE I CALLED YOUR ACTOR WORTHLESS! *sniffle*
 
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Some good news. Finally got blocked by this man after I warn people that Joel and Elie died in the end. He's on a mass blocking spree online to stop people from spoiling the game for idiots who never look up spoilers.
 
I remember back when the first game came out, people complained that Joel and Ellie just got away with the horrible shit they did (more specifically Joel since he did kinda massacre an entire base and destroyed possibly the only means for a cure). I feel as though this was some attempt to address that, that what Joel did had severe consequences on both him and Ellie, but it's so wrong headed, especially when the game makes you play as the person who murders the protagonist of the series.

You know what would have made this better? Maybe make Joel address the consequences of what he did and accept that his choice affected more people than just himself and Ellie. You can have Joel die, sure, maybe you could do something interesting with Ellie also having to address Joel's decision. This "cycle of revenge" crap is just disconnected from the previous game and its themes. There were a million better ways to go about this, but the game decides to go with the absolute worst idea possible.

You wanna know what's the chaser to the shit filled donut that is the "revenge plot" twist?

The Fireflies were literally going blind in their assumptions that they would "get a cure" from Ellie. On one of my playthroughs, I scoured up, down, left and right of the building and what little """"research"""" they had done was purely guess work from a couple of crappy X-ray scans. No blood tests, no biopsies, nope, let's just crack open a pre-teen girl's melon and roll from there! What's that? We're killing the ONE person immune to "God's Big Fuck You" parasite virus for an attempt at "reverse engineering" that we may botch and have no do overs? Ah well, we'll just point fingers and say you doomed humanity anyway. Someone will be fucking r-tarded enough to buy it!
 
Really loved the first game, the story, the characters, Looooved the ending(screw humanity), hated the forced lesbian dlc but that was optinal and not included in the main story. All this forced sjw progressive bullshit gets so f-ing tiresome and now both the main characters are degraded to lunatics and reduced to a happy meal for maggots. Somewhere i get the suspicion that this is Druckmanns ego trip and he butchered TLoU part2 out of spite and a god complex.
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This is the equivalent of a Doom sequel being anti-gun and lectures you about gun control.

You can't make a violent game and then go VIOLENCE IS BAD for the sequel. Team Fortress 2 is all about revenge killing that's the point of the game outside of hats.

Also it looks like there are zero new clickers, it seems to be that one single type and they're used sparingly.

I suppose when Troy Baker was talking about keeping an open mind what he was really doing was conveying subtle passive aggression.
He wasn't lying, Joel has an open mind it's leaking all over the ground!
 
why on earth would they try to frame Ellie killing the people who murdered the closest thing she's ever had to a father as a bad thing and then make you hunt her down and kill her for that while playing as the person who killed Joel that's so goddamn stupid I can't-
It's an allegory for the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
 
Man this fucking ending. What an absolute mess from a narrative standpoint.
Joel dying is a no brainer. Whenever you have this father figure character in a post apocalyptic scenario, he's on a time limit for when his "kid's" coming of age story takes place. That's not at all surprising that he dies. What is absolutely shocking is that the "kid" character dies in the middle of their coming of age/revenge story, and the character who kills the father figure is "the real protagonist".
I suspect that someone high up at Naughty Dog could not think of a way to continue the series to a 3rd and maybe final story, so they just decided to more or less kill the story now. What hook is there to play a third game? There is none.

As for the politics/optics side of this. This pleases no one. Can you see REEEEEEsetera types being happy with this ending? What about people who enjoyed the first game and maybe wants to see where it goes (me)? What about the hard "alt-right" Gaymergaters? They probably won't like it either. Awful decision all around. Naughty Dog are going to get shit for this for a long time.
Resetera will just ban anyone who doesn’t applaud the killing of white males lol. It’s a Sony AAA game, liking it is mandatory.
 
Apparently Tommy also seemingly dies, since he can be seen unmoving on the ground in the background of the scene where they fucking beat Joel to death. So they kill literally Ellie's entire family and she is quite understandably pissed about this and she's seen as the bad guy? And we're supposed to sympathize with the family killers and see them as the good guy protagonists??? What????
 
Alright, here's the videos from the leaks & I'm sorry if this spoils it for you. If it bothers with the site, just tell me & I'll delete it myself. All I can request to anyone here is just archive the videos on a bitchute cause I think that the streamable links I posted could get copyrighted if Cuckmann or Soyny wanted to.

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Dark Mode of the month old 4chan leak post so your eyes won't bleed

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Another funny thing is, like they need a whole gang to take out a near 60 year old and his lesbian daughter whos probably not even 21.

Again, these two normal humans (who admittedly have a very high body count, but they barely, if ever, started the conflicts) who are in no way in their prime needed to get blindsided and ganged up on to be defeated by our new heroes.

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Naughty Dog has been arrogant and pretentious ever since the first Uncharted, that series was the beginning of their turn to the dark side. It's an unpopular opinion but I think Uncharted fucking sucks, I played the first one when it came out and to this day I can't believe that one game opened the doors for a franchise. They gave us the entire series for free via PS plus and good will from corona chan and I decided to give them another try and I still feel the same, those things aren't games. They got so much praise it poisoned the industry to the point everything has to be cinematic and expensive, then with Last of Us, that changed into it has to be cinematic, expensive and "push the envelope". I actually enjoyed Last of Us but again, the amount of praise was a little out of control and it gave Druckmann an ego boost so fucking large, guy thinks he is untouchable and here we are.
 
I'm honestly baffled Sony thought this was a good idea. Fans will hate, woketards will hate. Who were they aiming for?
They were aiming for the woke crowd, but missed the mark, the target, and the entire firing range.

The only game that's lived up to the hype this year is Doom: Eternal!
And that's only on console. I've known people pass on the PC version because it's tied to the Bethesda launcher.

I seriously can't fathom the thought process behind this ending.
I think I can.

@sifareh592 hinted at it, and a few mentioned Star Wars, but I think part of this is spite for people shitting all over Uncharted 4 for it's woke nonsense.
 
@sifareh592 hinted at it, and a few mentioned Star Wars, but I think part of this is spite for people shitting all over Uncharted 4 for it's woke nonsense.
Oh, you mean the game where they booted out Hennig and Druckmann rewrote the script despite it being 99% done?

I can never not let go that a progressive cis white hetero male kicked out a woman just because she had the audacity to say, "Men were the only ones wiling to give me a chance."
 
Era leak thread has highlighted this guy's post about the final(?) cutscene (or at least the final gameplay part). Claims he saw a vid before it got taken down. Leaked photos of a bloodied Ellie going around would seem to corroborate it.

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A 13 year old wrote this garbage. Druckmann saw The Last Jedi and apparently decided it didn't shit on its fans hard enough. This isn't "subverting expectations" as much as taking a shit in everyone's mouth.

It's gonna be real interesting to see how the game the received when it finally comes out (whenever the fuck that is). I'm sure critics and braindead fanboys will probably eat this shit up but I'm guessing it's going to make people angrier than even Mess Effect 3 did. The shitstorm is going to be glorious.

I'd just intentionally lose the final fight and then claim that was the canon ending lmao.
 
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