The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

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She looks much much better here though I think she still has that "post-workout" look to her, but her face and body look more natural.
 
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She looks much much better here though I think she still has that "post-workout" look to her, but her face and body look more natural.

It looks like one of those memes where you shop a regular person's head onto a bodybuilder.

Or like someone put a Barbie head on a Ken doll.
 
It looks like one of those memes where you shop a regular person's head onto a bodybuilder.

Or like someone put a Barbie head on a Ken doll.

Like I said, even there she still has that post-workout look. Funnily enough, when she's on the ground during the hanging scene - her arms are relatively thin in comparison. It's like she hulks up when she's angry....

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A funny example of this occurs in My Hero Academia. Being a manga/anime featuring young teens, most of the male characters lean towards being androgynous - you could probably keep their face and builds, change their hair and put them in women’s clothes and pass it off as fairly convincing genderbent fan art. However, there is one trans character (a minor villain - one of the few who straight up gets merc’d lmao) who’s drawn as hilariously mannish as possible to drive home the point that they’re actually trans and not just a woman.

What about the one in the cat-themed team that they acknowledge went to Thailand to get their genitals inverted?
 
They really succeeded in making the characters look bland and unimportant by giving them no real distinguishing features and having them wear grey green clothes.

The fucking generic thugs in Final Fight have more style and presence to them than these modern day 3d characters.
Hell you have NPCs in Final Fantasy 7R that are more visually noticeable than the main characters in TLOU2. Fucking Jules might be a tranny but at least you can see he stands out among the other NPCs as someone you can interact with.
 
Not many comments. I wonder if they're deleting them.

I don't think anyone out and out confirmed it. It seems as though everyone's assuming it given her bizarre body shape and ugly face. At the same time, her body is based on an actual female athlete (not well mind you but it's still based on an actual biological woman as far as I can tell).
No. Abby's face is made ugly because we can't have pretty things in video games because #NotAllWomen or some shit.

Mass Effect: Andromeda had faces based on models, but they made the female model look like an autistic fish while the male was a decent match. People speculated that this was done deliberately since all the women in the game were hit with the ugly stick at least once. I wouldn't put it past ND to do that here.
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Spoiler Alert: I'm going to write spoilers for Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian, please read that damn book when you have the chance. Don't make me the guy who spoils it for you in a stupid nerd ramblepost, I'm not that good of a writer.

I have to give credit where credit is due. Personally I think it's incredibly ballsy of Druckmann to write a script and ND to approve where the two protagonists get horrifically snuffed out, and the last one the player has to directly kill. Troy Baker is right people are going to hate killing Ellie and the game itself, for many Ellie is a pseudo daughter ala Clem in The Walking Dead. Many people will be discussing whether they killed Ellie to see the game finish or just refuse to do it. Some will just not want to play it at all. The trailers clearly implied that Joel would die, he wasn't in the debut trailer and it would just be weird to have Ellie go on her quest for vengeance without him. I think anyone could have written the obvious Last of Us 2, one where Ellie goes on a quest for vengeance, does some brutal violence, and then either lives more messed up or dies in some heroic sacrifice, most cliched would be her saving a child to continue the parental themes. So there definitely could have been a way to make a flatter sequel but this game clearly fails as well where TLOU1 actually worked.

Now don't get me wrong, Druckmann is not some wonderful creative mind. Because if Hideo Kojima's success was built on pastiching 80s Action Movies then Druckmann's TLOU success was cribbing notes off Cormac McCarthy's The Road. And TLOU2 could have been Blood Meridian: The Game but it isn't.

Druckmann is too much of a coward to make Ellie what she should be, someone who had to develop around horrific brutal violence would HAVE to develop into a vicious psycho like Blood Meridian's "The Kid." Druckmann should have just plagiarized Blood Meridian to a T: one day Ellie should have just disappeared from Joel because she couldn't fit in a civilized society, because the sad truth is she's so fucked up that all she has in her is a lust for violence. She should have decided to travel out with a vicious gang who murders for profit and sadistic glee and then just wastes the money they make on booze, drugs, and whoring. Ellie and the gang go deep into hell itself and this piece of shit gang gets what's coming to them. Ellie would have moments of goodness to remind the player that she could be good like the "The Kid" but she shouldn't be innocent or a mere bystander. Finally the player becomes "Judge Holden" (not the user @Judge Holden) who slaughters Ellie in the most grisly fashion. End the game with Holden being fucking happy and dancing because "he will never die."

Why am I just giving a 3 sentence summary for one of the greatest novels of all time? Because I want a fucking Blood Meridian game and GODDAMN Rockstar pussied out with Red Dead Redemption 2 and made Dutch's gang a bunch of likable softies. And with TLOU2 Naughty Dawg chained up a bunch of skilled programmers and worked them like slaves to develop the most beautifully detailed violence pretty much seen in a game. But like Dan Houser Druckmann had to pussy out. "Oh Ellie's rampage of murdering is justified because Joel and that big nosed dyke girlfriend die. Oh no, it turns out going on a revenge quest won't result in your emotional healing. And even worse your quest for revenge could suffer blowbacks like you or other people you like getting murdered as the cycle of violence perpetuates itself." Congrats Dib Druckman you just gave us a message that every fucking human with half a brain knows! Meanwhile your game that's clearly designed to make people consider why they're enamored with the horrors of bloodshed are going to end up mainly enjoying it for the violence because no matter how much you or Hideo Kojima try to discourage us from liking violence blowing virtual heads off is fun and devoid of any guilt. You could have made an interactive masterpiece. A polished drop dead gorgeous game focused on the horrifying yet beautiful senseless violence and snuff. But no, you couldn't go all the way and instead had to have a game where a little girl murders more people than Jason Vorhees but then you end it with a shitty morality message straight outta Sweeney Todd, a musical for fat goth girls. You even have to wuss out and make the villain everyone will hate have a reason for her actions. Why can't the he/she just be a fucking monster who likes to murder? A broken world like the one shown in this game would make those people!

Thank you Naughty Dawg leaker for showing the basic bitch narrative that is only going to make gamers underwhelmed because Neil wrote the story he wanted to make as opposed to making the story that should have been told. To this day the closest we've gotten to a game that successfully makes a commentary on the fun of video game violence is Hotline Miami.
 
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I want to believe you're right.

I was skeptical of Far Cry 5 too but I wound up loving the game and felt like it handled it's subject matter in an even handed way that I didn't find offensive.

The main reason FCR5 was in any way half decent was it had the same lead writer responsible for Bioshock, Red Faction, Saint's Row and worked on Bioshock Infinite in which he had to try and filter Ken Levine's word salad philosophy into something vaguely coherent. He was given near free reign on FC5 which let him play a bit more, apparently he's enjoyed the work with Ubi and the creative freedom gifted to him (it sold really fucking well, after all) that he's likely in it for at least another game, all fingers crossed.

Dunno. The world seems to be getting back on its feet in TLOU. It's horrible and tentative, but it's some kind of order. A vaccine or cure would be nice, but the main problem seems to be mushroom zombies, cannibal cults and resource scarcity. Ellie not squeezing out a few kids probably wouldn't make much difference in the grand scheme of things - and there's no guarantee her immunity would pass on to future generations.

You know that expression "gay for pay"? I reckon most lesbians* in a post-apocalyptic scenario would be straight for shelter. Women don't fare well in lawless, desperately poor situations without a man capable of protecting them. Sometimes not even then (see Max Rockatansky's wife, or all those American settlers who were tortured to death by Indians). Ellie would've been murdered by some sick fucks without Joel.

Alternative lifestyles and genderspecials are only viable in a bubble of wealth and safety - probably not that many buttkicking out lesbians in Kabul or Tripoli.

*Except the poor beefy girls with mullets and sideburns, they'd better be good at pulling plow

You'd honestly get a blend. Some could turn into something akin to the Kurdish fighters, most will try and be either beaten until they're in line, or die.

You'd most likely get laws or edicts from whoever rose up in the rebuilding effort to encourage birthrates so yes, you'd at least get them to be bisexual in more benevolent climates and outright punishing in less ones. It would soon roll back to being seen as selfishness and that would soon roll into deviancy.

They pretty much stole it from RDR 2. Where Arthur Morgan ends up in a fist fight with Micah.

1) Dan Houser wrote most of RDR2 and steals from every spaghetti western out there and does not fucking apologise because he clearly loves the genre. 2) The choreography is brilliant because both Peter Blomquist and Roger Clark have repeatedly stated they were very aware Dan wrote it and made sure to give the best performance they could to it and apparently retook scene after scene as every cutscene was performance captured.
 
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