What are your thoughts on third party/independent voters?

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I think one of my issues with this politics stuff is that people are telling others who people are going to vote for, but they’re doing it way too early. This virus is probably more important to talk about than actual politics, which I still think isn’t even that popular amongst the people who are under the age of 35.

There’s people who already know who they are voting for, and people who are already affiliated with a political party. So now I have to ask, what do you guys think about the undecideds, or the people who vote for a third party candidate because they don’t know who to vote for?
 
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I would hope people vote based on researching candidates and making an informed decision on who they feel would best represent the interests of all the citizens, not just blindly voting based purely on whether or not the candidate has a D or R next to their name. I'll take my optimistic ratings for that.

As for do I care if someone votes third party or independent, I don't give a fuck. I'm a libertarian, so I'd be a hypocrite if I looked down on someone voting or belonging to a third party. Would still hope they at least possessed some knowledge of what their party and their candidates stood for before voting though. I'll take my dumb ratings for that as well.
 
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I encourage people to vote for whomever they think serves their interests best. I also encourage people to stay the fuck out of my business in regards to who I vote for. In the end I really don't like wasting too much energy agonizing over things I absolutely can not control (read: other people's voting habits) and I don't think it really makes that much difference in the end because most politicians are liars, idiots and combinations thereof.

I've accepted that I'm surrounded by idiots and it's not something I can change.
 
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If someone wants to vote for a party that's not the two main, more power to them. Having to pick 1 of 2 options that essentially just boil down to political sports teams is disgusting and makes a mockery of what a democracy is supposed to be.

I actually hate those who vote one or the other solely because their preference has no chance to win.
 
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If you don't know which of the 2 major party candidates to vote for, then don't vote for either one. They haven't earned your vote, they don't deserve it, there is no moral imperative attached to you as a voter.

For the same reason, don't vote random 3rd party, force them to earn your vote too. Otherwise you get debacles like the Libertarian Party, whose latest candidates don't even embrace libertarianism any more.

If no one earns your vote, write in whoever has earned your trust enough to put your name behind them.

To cast a vote is to give up a small amount of your sovereign, civil power. You may not like the outcome of an election when you vote on principles, but you won't feel ashamed about what your power has wrought (even with its tiny contribution). A strategic voter won't feel good about his principles, and propping up a system or a candidate is never worth that self-betrayal.
 
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Last presidential election I voted third-party because I thought both main ones sucked. I've since been told this makes me a traitor to my race, my gender, and my country. *sigh*

Harvey Danger said:
If you don't know which of the 2 major party candidates to vote for, then don't vote for either one. They haven't earned your vote, they don't deserve it, there is no moral imperative attached to you as a voter.

For the same reason, don't vote random 3rd party, force them to earn your vote too. Otherwise you get debacles like the Libertarian Party, whose latest candidates don't even embrace libertarianism any more.

If no one earns your vote, write in whoever has earned your trust enough to put your name behind them.

To cast a vote is to give up a small amount of your sovereign, civil power. You may not like the outcome of an election when you vote on principles, but you won't feel ashamed about what your power has wrought (even with its tiny contribution). A strategic voter won't feel good about his principles, and propping up a system or a candidate is never worth that self-betrayal.
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Third-party I can see supporting just to get them to the necessary 5%.
 
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Last presidential election I voted third-party because I thought both main ones sucked. I've since been told this makes me a traitor to my race, my gender, and my country. *sigh*



Third-party I can see supporting just to get them to the necessary 5%.
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Me too, but here's the silver lining: liberals complained that it was us third-partiers who took votes away from Hillary. :story:
I can live with that.
 
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Me too, but here's the silver lining: liberals complained that it was us third-partiers who took votes away from Hillary. :story:
I can live with that.
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Every county in my state went for Romney. There's no way the Bitch was winning here.
 
I have way more respect for the peiple who stand in line to vote and than vote 3rd party or foul their ballot than I do for the ones who just stayed home. You might not have voted for a viable candidate, or you voted for Mickey Mouse, but at least you cared enough to vote.
 
I'm sympathetic to third parties but I sadly feel they have little to no chance in this world because people can't think for themselves. Or on a more serious note, they vote AGAINST the person they hate more, so naturally, they'll pick Trump over Hillary/Joe Blow or whatever. But what else do you expect under a winner take all kind of system...eh it's all so tiring.
 
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I think for a lot of people it depends on where you live and how much a 3rd party vote matters there. Here in CA, I could vote for my dog every 4 years and it wouldn't matter. Shit, I could get 10,000 people to vote for my dog and it wouldn't matter. If I were in Florida it would matter.

But personally I don't care how people vote in any case. Do what you want. That's the entire point of individual voting in the first place.
 
Initially I'd say they are a lost cause as their networking skills and ability to get their message out is pitiful. However if they had just one dude who saw the opportunity, they should replace the democrat party. I mean the position is right there, and the left keeps showing themselves as being evil incarnate. How wimpy do you have to be not to see this and become the new second party and remove the blight of the left?
Your ability to shine is today. Why not take advantage of it?
 
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There's this idea that, given the fight to allow women and minorities to vote unimpeded, we ought to honor that sacrifice by making sure to vote or else we disrespect their memory and their efforts.

The idea is nothing but self-serving crap from people that want you to vote their way and would become indignant if you listened to their platitudes but voted differently from them. People encouraging you to vote are almost certainly never doing so because they want you to voice your interests-- they just want to vote twice by proxy. It's why they don't give up on their persuasion when it's clear that you know next to nothing about any of the candidates, and it's why they'll excoriate you for voting third party-- they consider it a "waste of your vote", even though you're voting in your interests like they supposedly want.

The only purpose of voting is to simply voice your interests by voting for the people that at least say they'll fulfill them. The idea that you're wasting your vote on third party candidates is as asinine as saying that you're wasting your vote on someone who ends up losing, and the person who expresses such an idea clearly only cares about being on "the right side" and should only be regarded as a lemming themselves-- they have no business lecturing you or anyone else about voting.

People didn't fight for voting rights so that we could vote-- people fought so that we could have the freedom of voting. Accordingly, they fought so that people can say that they don't want to vote instead of having no choice in the matter, either because of bogus requirements or because of sanctimonious drones trying to manipulate you.
 
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Add anyone who complains about people voting third party or choosing to not vote at all to the purge list; Nothing of value would be lost.
 
What matters my vote if the only parties that can win are two arms on the same Frankenstein?
 
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