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Sweden's peak will be a real peak. All the other countries will only be hitting their lockdown peak. Once they end/ease lockdown their numbers will climb or hold steady while Sweden's numbers keep dropping.
Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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There seems to be slightly different strains predominating on the east and west coasts of the USA with the east getting the slightly worse one. But yeah, In a nutshell, being packed in like sardines is going to mean a worse outbreak, always. People’s behaviour as well will be important. Compare: Social Italians, greeting with kisses, far smaller Idea of personal space field, multigenerational living, high air pollution with swedes: half live in single person households, none of that kissing stuff, very few multigenerational households, give each other more personal space, very clean air.
It’s going to be a bigger difference than lockdowns I think - how people live. And maybe whether the local health service is capable of dealing with a spike in demand without collapsing.
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Jesus fucking Christ the Virtue Signaling.
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This is my fear actually.
Not for fucking COVID-19, but for any real plague with the ability to decimate biologically useful (neonatal through reproductively active adults) segments of the human population. Everyone remembers the long-term nothingburger that was COVID-19 and doesn't take it seriously, then boom. 10-25% across all age groups gone before we know what the fuck just hit us.
When I was a teenager I lived in Hawaii. There was a huge earthquake in Chile and the whole state went into emergency procedure over the predicted tsunami that was going to have been caused by the quake. People evacuated to higher ground in a timely manner and for as much of a corrupt cluster fuck HI is it went smooth.
Then the big moment came, the news is full of footage of water receding at the beaches, and all we got was this weak surge, no bigger than your average winter swell.
I forget my full thought process, but at some point I remember thinking "well shit what if it's the real thing next time?" knowing that people would remember the nothingburger, and not the reason the nothingburger was overreacted to.
Then the big moment came, the news is full of footage of water receding at the beaches, and all we got was this weak surge, no bigger than your average winter swell.
I forget my full thought process, but at some point I remember thinking "well shit what if it's the real thing next time?" knowing that people would remember the nothingburger, and not the reason the nothingburger was overreacted to.
Welp.
I retract my previous statement defending these attention whores.
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Anecdotal update from UK. Last few weeks people mostly ignoring orders because of good weather, parks and public areas full. Settled down last couple of days because weather has been shitty. People absolutely not stay at home if this drags out into the summer.
Still have a job for now working from home, others in industry not so fortunate, lots furloughed or made redundant. In many places junior associates and graduates are first to go, higher ups protecting their pay. Well done on fucking the next generation into the dirt.
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it's not like it happened before corona too, I still remember back in february people in my supermarket laughing about it and how it will turn out just like the swine flu and all the others. yet here we are, and we don't even see bodies dropping left and right.
in the end there isn't much you can do about that, people will be people. only thing you really can do when shit gets really bad is preparing yourself and the people you care about like the thread early on advised. the rest... well, natural selection is a thing.
well, I still remember people getting their panties in a twist about "it's just the flu bro!" (with the flu being worse), so it's not really surprising.
source seems to be https://coronavirustruths.godaddysites.com
as you said she's a globalist, so left/right doesn't really matter as long it works towards that goal. as for germany in general you have to remember "ze germanz" caused 2 world wars (and only them), the guild complex that caused is hard for any non-german to comprehend (as is for most germans since they mostly consume german media - you can guess how that works out - and at best leave their country for vacation in a resort or tourist hot-spot)
it is a huge influence, so trying to understand politics becomes even more of a clusterfuck than usual.
but I've sperged about that enough before, don't want to get too much off-topic.
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Fun in Bongland:
The BBC's Panorama basically ran a big scary story hammering the government for not having any clairvoyance abilities and buying millions of items of PPE ready for a pandemic nobody was sure was coming. They had lots of angry, soppy looking doctors, nurses and healthcare workers on.
Only it turns out A shitload of them were basically Labour Party members, candidates etc.
And now it turns out a union boss who unironically call himself a communist recruited most of them for the BBC.
The whole program was complete horse shit, and even Hancock's slammed the programme. I suspect the outbreak and the BBC's own shenanigans will see a nice change in government policy towards this cancer pretending to be a broadcaster.
The BBC's Panorama basically ran a big scary story hammering the government for not having any clairvoyance abilities and buying millions of items of PPE ready for a pandemic nobody was sure was coming. They had lots of angry, soppy looking doctors, nurses and healthcare workers on.
Only it turns out A shitload of them were basically Labour Party members, candidates etc.
And now it turns out a union boss who unironically call himself a communist recruited most of them for the BBC.
The whole program was complete horse shit, and even Hancock's slammed the programme. I suspect the outbreak and the BBC's own shenanigans will see a nice change in government policy towards this cancer pretending to be a broadcaster.
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I've been working every day to bring money into my country which pays taxes to pay their wages. Do I get a video?
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I don't see that being the case for Iceland as they only have slightly stricter restrictions (the quarantine mentioned in the article only concerns people arriving from abroad) and have better conditions for combating the virus overall, but the death toll for the other countries will probably start going up again once they ease their restrictions. Their idea seems to be that if they do it the Icelandic way they will be able to get the numbers down quickly even as they ease lockdown.
The difference between Sweden and the Nordic countries would probably have been less stark if, among other things, the virus hadn't spread as much in retirement homes here. By contrast, Norway has done a better job preventing that (something which Tegnell has admitted to).
Yeah, it's precisely social immigrant groups such as Assyrians and Somalians that are overrepresented here. It's also not a coincidence that the Wu flu has primarily been affecting the Stockholm region so far (although it's started spreading more now); it's partially because their winter break occurred during the week where Corona started spreading in Italy and many people got it then while they were skiing in north Italy, but it also "helps" that it's the most densely populated in the country. Even here in the south which is more densely populated than the majority of the country, the amount of confirmed cases is less than 10% of that of Stockholm.
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I've spent the day talking to numerous ID/Virology doctors, professors etc, in relation to Prof Hugh Pennington's assertion that it's unlikely for there to be a (true re-emergence) second wave and you know what? A lot have agreed. Numbers wise, it's been about 60% strongly agree that there won't be.
His reasoning is 100% solid too. What is more frightening is that ID "experts" I've spoken to... didn't consider the fact that this isn't Influenza. They were wrapped up in the modelling being based on the 1918 pandemic.
When I put to them that this is a) not 1918, b) not influenza and c) that Neil Ferguson from ICL has been pushing this lockdown as a panacea for everything from Mad Cow to Swine Flu and they had to actually think about it, they really questioned the likelihood of a (true) second wave.
The media have been touting "second waves" when they've merely been peaks, because it gets headlines.
Singapore's "second wave" was not a second wave at all. It was a peak which was solely due to circumstances - i.e, the ones @Otterly outlined above re: living/social conditions.
Singapore's issue came about due to locking down poor, migrant workers and containing them in cramped spaces, whilst the virus ran through their living quarters.
They had cloistered them away in their rooms. Literally, they could not leave. No fresh air, no sunlight, no leaving the room.
This is a great case for never locking down in the first place, tbh.
China's "second waves" have been due to people returning home. WA in Australia is going to have that issue because they're bringing people home.
A true second wave and a secondary peak are two different things.
Sidenote ; I never, ever want to have to talk to another epidemiologist again in my entire life. They are the most retarded, deceptive, single minded people on the planet. They're essentially Rhys McKinnon levels of pompous but with a dangerous level of authority.
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Video kind of ends abruptly but I didn't see any actual doctors/surgeons dancing around like fuckwits (not saying there haven't been any but they'd be the minority). Most of the doctors I work with barely have time to fucking eat most days.
Hospitals have quieted down the last month due to people not coming in through ED for the sniffles or because the dragon inside their microwave told them to. A lot of people with serious problems are also reluctant to come in (not actually a good idea).
So it's been less busy with work which means most of the doctors have been catching up on their academics (reading journals, writing papers, preparing for talks and lectures, studying for exams etc)
At my hospital all the stupid hero crap posted to social media (they did it for about a week. Not nearly as much as Americans seem to be doing it) was all auxiliary staff and nurses. An ED doc, and ICU intensivist, and a infectious disease consultant talked a little bit in some videos but no doctors were prancing around like knob gobblers.
A lot of the surgical registrars were taking the piss out of these videos on their Facebooks and in group chats. They were posting pics of them doing stupid shit while on holiday earlier in the year/late last year with the same slogans - "I stay at work for you, so you can stay at home for us" etc and the image is of them drunk out of their gourds squinting into the camera, or snowboarding, or sitting near the pool.
The attitude was basically "Fucking pay us our overtime. We don't want platitudes"
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It's becoming increasingly clear that this entire thing is a complete overreaction. Unfortunately, browsing normie internet for even a moment shows that the vast majority of people discussing this think that the whole lockdown thing is entirely rational and proportional and should be extended indefinitely "until the virus is gone". Anyone who disagrees is shouted down and treated like shit for daring to want a roll back of such drastic, irrational destruction of normal human activity. Evidence that contradicts their lockdown narrative is dismissed as conspiracy mongering or Trump support, or wanting people to die.
It feels like there's not going to be any great revelation of truth at the end of this. The story is set; the lockdown saved the world, the virus was an extinction-level event that we avoided by the skin of our teeth, and daddy government needs to do it every time someone gets the sniffles. China is laughing at us.
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So protests have really started popping off over the last few days. People are really starting to get antsy and people who can't telework and/or have no income are near exhausting what they had saved. As predicted, a LOT of people have already spent the $1200 stimulus.
It doesn't help that we have insanity like last night in NYC when they threatened to arrest a whole group of mourners attending a funeral. So many lawsuits are coming over civil rights violations it's not funny. We literally had a governor declare the courts are effectively shuttered as long as they want. Holy hell, that's nightmare dystopian territory.
It's only going to get worse. I'm expecting grocery stores to get hit hard by looting when people start running out of money for food.
It doesn't help that we have insanity like last night in NYC when they threatened to arrest a whole group of mourners attending a funeral. So many lawsuits are coming over civil rights violations it's not funny. We literally had a governor declare the courts are effectively shuttered as long as they want. Holy hell, that's nightmare dystopian territory.
It's only going to get worse. I'm expecting grocery stores to get hit hard by looting when people start running out of money for food.
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It's not an overreaction. It was the only choice we had because for now we cant cure or contain the virus. Is everyone on Kiwi Farms a fucking idiot or something?
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Let me tell you the tale of Cadiz. During phoenician times, Cadiz was THE center of the god damned planet. The port they used to get access to northern europe and africa. One of if not the most important trade nodes in history. Then the romans happened. And used it for the same purpose, with the added benefit of being the seat of their army in andalusia, and where armies reunited for conquest on such areas. Then the moors happened. And despite their best efforts, moving the capital to seville, cordoba and granada, Cadiz was still the center of the western armies. And then the reconquista happened. And with it came the discovery of the new world. Cadiz had the port of America. It was, for all intents and purposes, the gateway to the new world. The one port everyone wanted to be in. Cadiz resisted the destruction and rebuilding of all of these empires standing tall and proud, and bears the scars. But then, the port was moved to seville. And cadiz was limited to being the seat of the spanish navy. Things got worse but it held. The spanish navy was still quite a beast to feed. Then, napoleon besieged spain. And cadiz was all that was left of this once great empire for years. But it held. However. It did so while being surrounded and blocaded, and all resources were used up during the siege. Cadiz's supply chain was irrevocably destroyed.
And so, when spain was reformed and freed itself from its shackles, you'd expect Cadiz to come back stronger than ever. It was the symbol of Spain's unflinging devotion to our country, ideals and freedom. You'd be wrong. See, one thing changed. The merchants and boatmakers of Cadiz were liberals. And the new king despised liberalism. And so, he decided it was better to favor the conservative governors of Seville. And so. The supply chain was simply never restored.
Cadiz has yet to recover. The city stands. But as you said, a city is more than a location. And all that is left from the shambling corpse of this once great city is an impoverished small coastal town filled with retired foreigners and exploited workers. It's a shithole. Plain and simple. And every young person that can afford to flee does so. It's almost a joke at this point how many Gaditanos you can find all over the rest of spain.
And I assure you. Most of us do so with the dream of being able to at a future point being so good at our fields that we can go back home and bring industry with us. To reinvigorate the province. To go back to its old splendor. The Zona Franca is filled with the factories and small businesses of those dreamers. And most villages on the province work in the medical and chemical factories made by them. Even the new university was built by one such person.
But it's not enough. It's never enough. As fast as they're built they can also come back crumbling down and Cadiz is still one of if not the most impoverished province in spain today. After centuries of attempts, in a priviledged possition. Being the dream of thousands if not millions. It seems nothing can bring it back.
Sure. New york will exist. But how? What will be left of it? As I see it. It is going to turn into a city where the middle class disappears entirely, to the point feudalism comes back in all but name. It's gonna turn into detroit. All it takes is the middle class fleeing and the ruling class simply not doing anything to fix it, and the entire state can be irrevocably damaged. The world is filled with such old glories. Cadiz was just the first. It wasn't even the most tragic. That title would probably go to Constantinople. I mean really. Just look at greece and turkey. Once the seat of the byzantine empire. Now? Bankrupt states. Considered little more than a failure by everyone else.
All it takes is Cuomo not stoping this. And Trump not bothering to fight him on it.
Ah yes. And do please tell how actors, models, comedians and other hipsters are gonna whip the economy into shape and fix the massive gap in spending that's coming. You need middle class workers. Not shitheads with no real world skills or way to make a decent sallary. And that's all NY seems to be taking in these days.
I don't want to see NYC gone. This is a warning, a prediction I wish not to see come true. But so far
... It seems to be the most likely future.
What rose China's lethality is the horrid mismanagement by chinese authorities. The thread is filled with evidence of their incredible level of stupidity. That and how high their population density and atmospheric pollution are, and the horrid state of their "cuisine." No need to search for mutations when at that point even the sniffles would be a tragedy.
You know. For the most part I hate spanish public TV as much as you hate the BBC. But I gotta say. At least they're not that actively dreadful. I mean, anyone except certain retirees just ignores it exists except when the gov is making anouncements or shit like that. But for instance channel 2 just keeps rolling documentaries on wildlife and history and shit like that, and channel 1 is filled with old spanish films abd adaptations. I mean. I don't like how much we're spending on that shit, specially since each autonomy has their own channel on top of the 2 the gov has. But at least they don't actively piss people off.
I have no idea why the BBC has failed at this most basic of messures. If you're not gonna be good: at least make sure they don't hate you. It shouldn't be that hard, really. Just don't push political propaganda. How can someone fail at NOT SUCKING?!
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Can you please stop calling the virus Corona Chan, Wu Flu, Chink Flu, Pinko Pox, etc. You do realise how racist that is right?
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Easy, a decade of useless Labour leaders has meant the BBC's taken on the mantle of "holding the government to account." they also, to the surprise of everyone, did relatively balanced reporting on the Brexit referendum in 2016. Mostly because all the polls told them their preffered view would win and thus they could go talk to the little people in the sticks about their plight and not worry. There's also been little reform on the part of the government (tinoil time: done so the public is nudged into actively hating it so it can be abolished)
That of course, didn't go quite so well and since then the BBC has basically given up any air of impartiality to the point of psychosis, and they've made sure to spread this disease to ITV with Robert Peston and Sky News with Adam Bolton, all of whom are globalists who think everything is ok, hunky dory and not hideously broken.
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