Megathread Tranny Sideshows on Social Media - Any small-time spectacle on Reddit, Tumblr, Twitter, Dating Sites, and other social media.

[TaimuRadiu]

Imagine thinking giving them the right hormones to make them feel more like their gender would "worsen their dysphoria".
Also, if you hate Kiwifarms, why are you using it?

1. if being a male as they are is genuinely psychiatrically dysphoric, giving them testosterone would just prolong their suffering until they inevitably go Uncle Ted
2. existence is suffering

 

[DumbDude42]

not gonna happen, there's no "treatment" for gender dysphoria besides transitioning, that's the best the psychiatric community was able to decide on even in the 70s before homosexuality was taken out of the DSM

"manning up" clearly isn't something that's going to happen

most of them (mtf) are either perverts trying to force their fetish on their surroundings, or larping trenders trying to climb the progressive stack. the 'dysphoria' card is just a deflection tactics they use to avoid admitting that. being forced to man up and quit the larp is exactly what they need.

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

1. if being a male as they are is genuinely psychiatrically dysphoric, giving them testosterone would just prolong their suffering until they inevitably go Uncle Ted
2. existence is suffering

1. Okay, so apparently giving a dehydrated person more water would only make them thirstier. A tranny who's given more hormones to become more masculine will suffer even more? Around 80% of children with untreated "gender dysphoria" grow out of it. Why? Because puberty gives you more hormones that makes you feminine/masculine? Who knew?
2. "haha lol random!"

 

[TaimuRadiu]

1. Okay, so apparently giving a dehydrated person more water would only make them thirstier. A tranny who's given more hormones to become more masculine will suffer even more? Around 80% of children with untreated "gender dysphoria" grow out of it. Why? Because puberty gives you more hormones that makes you feminine/masculine? Who knew?
2. "haha lol random!"

that's not the way it works according to adult tranners and psychiatrists, and I'd trust the psychs a lot more in this case, the only thing that actually seems to "work" is accepting Christ in your heart, and even then a lot of them just turn out as "ex ex gays", if you want a bunch of even more masculine looking late in life transitioners that's literally the way you get it

do you want that (probably)

 

[Dante Alighieri]

that's not the way it works according to adult tranners and psychiatrists

The troons are mentally ill and are eternally chasing after the next thing- "I just need X and I'll be happy!"

The psychiatrists that push this shit are using bunk "science" with no grounds in reality. They make their tripe up as they go along for the sake of more money and more power. Note that it's the young, trendy, millennial psychs behind it all.

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

that's not the way it works according to adult tranners and psychiatrists, and I'd trust the psychs a lot more in this case, the only thing that actually seems to "work" is accepting Christ in your heart, and even then a lot of them just turn out as "ex ex gays", if you want a bunch of even more masculine looking late in life transitioners that's literally the way you get it

do you want that (probably)

Alot of those "psychiatrists" are using studies from John Money who's some pedo who "pioneered" that tranny looney in the first place. Trannies should not be loaded up with hormones and then have their genitals be turned inside out. Almost like politics got in the way of treating them.

Spoiler: kek

 

[Ceci]

not gonna happen, there's no "treatment" for gender dysphoria besides transitioning, that's the best the psychiatric community was able to decide on even in the 70s before homosexuality was taken out of the DSM

"manning up" clearly isn't something that's going to happen

Yeah, if someone says that having a penis makes them feel bad we should let them chop it off. Just like if someone says being average weight makes them feel bad so we should let them starve themselves, or if having an arm makes them feel bad we should let them amputate it.
If anything, this thread is an arguement for why transitioning is a terrible treatment for dysphoria. There are countless cases of people being more miserable after transitioning or continuing to be dissatisfied, and a lot of the "gender euphoria" people experience from transitioning seems to be fetishistic at best.
Trannies need therapy, not hormones. Real therapy, not just a yes-man telling them if they like dresses they must really be a girl on the inside. Just look at people like Remillia, who killed himself after realizing he'd never be able to be a real woman despite all the surgery or hormones he got. Or all the female detransitioners who had gender dysphoria induced by their social groups, or by internalized misogyny/homophobia.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

The tranny you described is sort of the equivalent of me saying "this guy walks around in a costume pretending to be a wolf but he's wolf-like, real nice with me and he's trying to live like a normal person."
No matter how nice you think the tranny is, he will be far from normal because normality isn't thinking you're a woman in a man's body.

Not all trannies think they're women in men's bodies. People like Blaire White admit they're men and say they are transitioning in an attempt to treat their dysphoria.

I haven't watched many of Blaire's videos but this page gives the impression he's quite sane:

Blaire White - RationalWiki

rationalwiki.org

There must be others like that.

 

[Corn Flakes]

most of them (mtf) are either perverts trying to force their fetish on their surroundings, or larping trenders trying to climb the progressive stack. the 'dysphoria' card is just a deflection tactics they use to avoid admitting that. being forced to man up and quit the larp is exactly what they need.

That's the key, "most". Not all.

Before transgender became transtrender and therapists risked being mobbed for not caving in to every Tom, Dick and Harry with an undercut and a v-neck shirt and telling them that they're actually girls on the inside, gender dysphoria was an actual specified mental condition that some people -- very few people -- were diagnosed as having.

Like most mental conditions is has no known cure and all treatment is for symptoms rather than the cause. Counseling and therapy were the first line of treatment, and if nothing worked transitioning was the last line of treatment. And by "last" I mean last. Transition was meant to be the hail mary pass to prevent the person from commiting suicide within six months. And even then, it sometimes failed. Sometimes it succeeded, but in those cases you wouldn't know about it because the person would essentially stop being transgender and adopt the same mannerisms, look and habits of the general population. They wouldn't be noticed.

Just because the LGBT movement suddenly became a haven for pervs, predators and autists who were groomed into joining a body-modification cult ran by SJWs, doesn't mean that the people who would formerly be diagnosed with gender dysphoria stopped existing. They're still there, they're usually too embarrassed by the highly visible idiots on twitter to speak up, and even if they weren't they'd rather not out themselves as transgender. After all, the point is to blend in, not to stand out.

So yeah, most transgender folks on twitter? Total troons. How do you know? They put up they're transgender/NB/Apache Attack Helicopter right on their profile description. They're lolcows and they deserve mockery for doing what SJWs always do: appropriating a problem for themselves and hiding behind it like it gives them power. But some people out there, very few people, are genuinely diagnosed and treated as transgender. Usually by older therapists who somehow haven't fallen before social pressure and did their due diligence with it. Those people are sick and not bothering anyone else. We have much easier targets to mock than them.

Namely, the troons complaining that they can't get laid or posting Craigslist "come suk my beautiful girl dicc" ads on Twitter.

 

[JohnDoe]

The solution to dysphoria is treating the underlying mental damage that causes the negative emotional response to one's body, not indulging the patient in a deepening of the psychosis.

For someone with weight dysphoria, like an anorexic for example, that involves a lot of talk and cognitive therapy, and likely a course of antianxiety and antidepressants. The eventual aim is to have the patient attain a healthy body and a healthy mindset. It would be a violation of the Hippocratic oath to suggest a restricted calorie diet and elective surgery to reduce weight or give that appearance.

A patient with body identity integrity disorder is an even more extreme example (these poor people want to be disabled, and usually self-amputate limbs). You'd lose your license if you referred them to a surgeon for voluntary amputation of an otherwise healthy limb.

Some type of mild anxiety and confusion is relatively common in adolescents as they undergo puberty. A number of potentially stressful social, emotional, and physical changes are manifesting, after all. The solution is a supportive and safe environment, where they are given the coping tools and outlets for these feelings, as well as positive adult role models of both sexes.

Such treatment results in nearly complete recovery from sex dysphoria by the end of adolescence. (Some 1-2% require continued therapy.)

Compare this with the alternative, proposed treatment of placing the patient on an untested mix of puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and surgery that will, at a minimum sterilize them permanently and also have long term negative effects on bone density, heart health, brain development, just to name a few - while also increasing the risk of cancer and other disorders. The patient will be forced to endure a lifetime of medical and surgical intervention, at great expense and risk. The potential impact seems far out of proportion to the possible benefit.

No ethical health professional could consider the latter a reasonable course of action, but sadly even principles have a price.

 

[DumbDude42]

That's the key, "most". Not all.

Before transgender became transtrender and therapists risked being mobbed for not caving in to every Tom, Dick and Harry with an undercut and a v-neck shirt and telling them that they're actually girls on the inside, gender dysphoria was an actual specified mental condition that some people -- very few people -- were diagnosed as having.

Like most mental conditions is has no known cure and all treatment is for symptoms rather than the cause. Counseling and therapy were the first line of treatment, and if nothing worked transitioning was the last line of treatment. And by "last" I mean last. Transition was meant to be the hail mary pass to prevent the person from commiting suicide within six months. And even then, it sometimes failed. Sometimes it succeeded, but in those cases you wouldn't know about it because the person would essentially stop being transgender and adopt the same mannerisms, look and habits of the general population. They wouldn't be noticed.

Just because the LGBT movement suddenly became a haven for pervs, predators and autists who were groomed into joining a body-modification cult ran by SJWs, doesn't mean that the people who would formerly be diagnosed with gender dysphoria stopped existing. They're still there, they're usually too embarrassed by the highly visible idiots on twitter to speak up, and even if they weren't they'd rather not out themselves as transgender. After all, the point is to blend in, not to stand out.

So yeah, most transgender folks on twitter? Total troons. How do you know? They put up they're transgender/NB/Apache Attack Helicopter right on their profile description. They're lolcows and they deserve mockery for doing what SJWs always do: appropriating a problem for themselves and hiding behind it like it gives them power. But some people out there, very few people, are genuinely diagnosed and treated as transgender. Usually by older therapists who somehow haven't fallen before social pressure and did their due diligence with it. Those people are sick and not bothering anyone else. We have much easier targets to mock than them.

Namely, the troons complaining that they can't get laid or posting Craigslist "come suk my beautiful girl dicc" ads on Twitter.

i know that
the thing is, how do you tell an actual dysphoric from a larping trender? you can't, because diagnosing something like dysphoria relies 100% on what the patient tells you. you can't know if they're lying or not.

as long as society tolerates (and even encourages) the fetishists and trenders, there is incentive for people to lie about this stuff, which in turn makes accurate diagnosis of dysphoria impossible.
the solution for this situation is to remove all that tolerance and encouragement. by making being trans unbearable, all these incentives to lie are removed, and the only ones who still claim trans are the ones who really are compelled to do so by genuine dysphoria. no more liars, no more trenders, no more fetishists. and THEN, once the bulk of troons are gone, then you can actually start talking about taking measures to accomodate and treat those few genuine dysphorics.

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

I haven't watched many of Blaire's videos but this page gives the impression he's quite sane:

Blaire White - RationalWiki

rationalwiki.org

There must be others like that.

I suggest you don't use the rational wiki as a source. It's run by a bunch of smug athiests from what I've heard.

 

[Corn Flakes]

i know that
the thing is, how do you tell an actual dysphoric from a larping trender? you can't, because diagnosing something like dysphoria relies 100% on what the patient tells you. you can't know if they're lying or not.

as long as society tolerates (and even encourages) the fetishists and trenders, there is incentive for people to lie about this stuff, which in turn makes accurate diagnosis of dysphoria impossible.
the solution for this situation is to remove all that tolerance and encouragement. by making being trans unbearable, all these incentives to lie are removed, and the only ones who still claim trans are the ones who really are compelled to do so by genuine dysphoria. no more liars, no more trenders, no more fetishists. and THEN, once the bulk of troons are gone, then you can actually start talking about taking measures to accomodate and treat those few genuine dysphorics.

I get the idea, unfortunately that's never going to fly.

Refusing medical treatment to everybody, including those that require it, just to weed out the fakes is completely unethical. It's not happening.

What is going to happen, however, is that eventually there will be academic and medical pushback against transtrenders and enforcement of more stringent standards. And the trend, like most other trends, will pass. You already see how it happens today: a lot of people who end up identifying themselves as transgender and eventually just fade from the internet do so because they abandoned their transgender online identity and went back to present themselves as cisgender under new accounts. Hell, a lot of them are going to be here, in this very thread!

Being trans now is like being a hippy in the 60s. Give it 30 years or so and you'll see a lot of 50-year olds telling stories of how they were transgender "back in the 20s". Same deal, including the societal fuckups and the long-term health issues. Ever seen a boomer having an acid flashback? I have. It sometimes happens when they're trying to lose weight and it's funny as hell. Only in the case of troons for some of them their dicks just don't work.

Or won't be there at all.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

I suggest you don't use the rational wiki as a source. It's run by a bunch of smug athiests from what I've heard.

Take a look at the page. It was written by seething trannies who hate Blaire. It's actually a pretty amusing read if you enjoy watching people chimp out. They think what they wrote makes Blaire look bad but I think it's the opposite.

Every claim is sourced, so the page seems pretty trustworthy.

Yeah, if someone says that having a penis makes them feel bad we should let them chop it off. Just like if someone says being average weight makes them feel bad so we should let them starve themselves, or if having an arm makes them feel bad we should let them amputate it.
If anything, this thread is an arguement for why transitioning is a terrible treatment for dysphoria. There are countless cases of people being more miserable after transitioning or continuing to be dissatisfied, and a lot of the "gender euphoria" people experience from transitioning seems to be fetishistic at best.
Trannies need therapy, not hormones. Real therapy, not just a yes-man telling them if they like dresses they must really be a girl on the inside. Just look at people like Remillia, who killed himself after realizing he'd never be able to be a real woman despite all the surgery or hormones he got. Or all the female detransitioners who had gender dysphoria induced by their social groups, or by internalized misogyny/homophobia.

I think there's not enough gatekeeping. Transitioning should be a last resort for people who are suicidal and have tried other things first, not something anyone can do for shits and giggles. The fact that teenagers can get HRT and sometimes even SRS is evidence there's something fundamentally wrong with the way things are being handled right now.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Take a look at the page. It was written by seething trannies who hate Blaire. It's actually a pretty amusing read if you enjoy watching people chimp out. They think what they wrote makes Blaire look bad but I think it's the opposite.

Every claim is sourced, so the page seems pretty trustworthy.


I think there's not enough gatekeeping. Transitioning should be a last resort for people who are suicidal and have tried other things first, not something anyone can do for shits and giggles. The fact that teenagers can get HRT and sometimes even SRS is evidence there's something fundamentally wrong with the way things are being handled right now.

Doctors really hate sterilizing young people, because they know there’s a high potential for regret, and they don’t want to get sued. So why are they willing to do SRS on teens?

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Doctors really hate sterilizing young people, because they know there’s a high potential for regret, and they don’t want to get sued. So why are they willing to do SRS on teens?

Because the doctors willing to do it are a niche that trannies go out of their way to find and even fly to other countries to have the procedures done. They get hormones from grey market horse piss selling sites and from "informed consent" clinics meant to supply to troons.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Because the doctors willing to do it are a niche that trannies go out of their way to find and even fly to other countries to have the procedures done. They get hormones from grey market horse piss selling sites and from "informed consent" clinics meant to supply to troons.

Yep. It's actually a source of lots of complaints by trans people on twitter, how hard it is to get referrals and hormonal therapy prescribed. You end up having a lot of doctor-shopping, with people recommending doctors and clinics that gave them what they wanted (some actually move to different states to be closer to "informed consent" clinits).

The actual surgery is very difficult to get, and it usually requires either a lot of waiting (via the NHS in the UK, for example), or a lot of (possibly Patreon- or family-donated) money to get.

 

[Syntaxion]

Because the doctors willing to do it are a niche that trannies go out of their way to find and even fly to other countries to have the procedures done. They get hormones from grey market horse piss selling sites and from "informed consent" clinics meant to supply to troons.

Here are 30 pages filled with surgeons who work on transgender surgery:

Gender Surgeons In the United States

Find surgeons who perform Gender Affirming Surgery in the United States. Search by procedure, location, or insurance accepted. Request free information.

www.transhealthcare.org

And that's just in the USA

 

[Comrade Autogynephilia]

Does Knox have a thread of her own?

For the uninitiated:

I think she also tried to troon out the youngest as well at some point.

 

[Puddleduck]

Here we have a very old school Britbong game show, with a very serious air and no gimmicks ... but any chance of taking it seriously is dashed by a ridiculous unpassing tranny who looks exactly like Kevin Gibes