Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

[AnOminous]

In the movies they got whitewashed a bit into a light brown but in the novels they're described as having "swarthy" complexions, IIRC. It's actually one of the "problematic" things people see in the Lord of the Rings books.

Swarthy sounds more like Turks or Mongols than black people.

 

[Jarolleon]

You're giving these people way too much intellectual credit. Here's the reasoning:

1. The protagonists are white Europeans.
2. The orcs are described as evil, nasty, brutish and corrupted.
3. The orcs are fighting the white European protagonists.
4. Because of that antagonistic relationship the orcs must be coded black.

Of course, that's ignoring the corrupted humans under Sauron's command that Tolkien actually described as having dark skin, the Haradrim (or the people of the south). They're the elephant-riding tribal folks you see in the Battle of the Pelennor Fields in the movies. In the movies they got whitewashed a bit into a light brown but in the novels they're described as having "swarthy" complexions, IIRC. It's actually one of the "problematic" things people see in the Lord of the Rings books.

That's also ignoring the orcs' description as "squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, bow-legged, with wide mouths and slant eyes, long arms, dark skin, and fangs". They're essentially large goblins by modern standards. But that would make them really hard to cast and costume human extras for them.

Granted, the Ottoman or Persian empires at their height as seen by their enemies fit the comparison better. But the We Wuz Kangz narrative fits so well (especially if they believe that shit about Yakub) .

 

[Corn Flakes]

Swarthy sounds more like Turks or Mongols than black people.

Granted, the Ottoman or Persian empires at their height as seen by their enemies fit the comparison better. But the We Wuz Kangz narrative fits so well (especially if they believe that shit about Yakub) .

I haven't read the books in ages so I'm going by memory on the term. I also don't have the books anymore (gave them away to a niece when she entered middle school) so if anyone feels like digging up the description for the Haradrim, go ahead. Personally, I don't think Tolkien would have made much of a distinction between Turkish and flat-out black in his books but the guy is not around for us to ask directly so I'm not going to argue the point.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Notch is anti-GG? Since when? He just didn't really give a shit about it, no matter how much he got screeched at about it.

I had a brain fart. I meant he was against the retardation that it caused. I remember seeing a lot of tweets of him dismissing it as an internet bum fight while also calling social justice warriors out. He called Zoe Quinn a cunt for still harping on it.

https://twitter.com/notch/status/874069042058805249

 

[Linako 2.0]

That's also ignoring the orcs' description as "squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, bow-legged, with wide mouths and slant eyes, long arms, dark skin, and fangs". They're essentially large goblins by modern standards. But that would make them really hard to cast and costume human extras for them.

Goblin is what the Hobbits called Orcs; the modern concept of Orcs we have today is based on the Uruk-Hai, who were rumoured to be a mix of Man and Orc created by Saruman's experiments.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

I haven't read the books in ages so I'm going by memory on the term. I also don't have the books anymore (gave them away to a niece when she entered middle school) so if anyone feels like digging up the description for the Haradrim, go ahead. Personally, I don't think Tolkien would have made much of a distinction between Turkish and flat-out black in his books but the guy is not around for us to ask directly so I'm not going to argue the point.

IIRC. The men of Near Harad are Arab-like, like North Africans, and the men of Far Harad are similar to Africans the Mumakil (elephants) came from there as well. I would also like to bring up the fact that other races of villainous Men are the Easterlings (Asians in most cases), Black Numenoreans mostly from Umbar(not actually black just worship Sauron, the Mouth of Sauron was one and he's much different looking in the books) and the Dunlendings (based on the British Celts) and Hillmen (Germans?) also the Variags of Khand which aren't described.

 

[Book Thief]

 

[Corn Flakes]

Goblin is what the Hobbits called Orcs; the modern concept of Orcs we have today is based on the Uruk-Hai, who were rumoured to be a mix of Man and Orc created by Saruman's experiments.

I meant it in terms of them looking like our modern conception of goblins, like D&D's goblins. As for the Uruk-Hai... do you have the description they have in the books? I cannot for the life of me remember how they were described, besides large, more upright orcs.

IIRC. The men of Near Harad are Arab-like, like North Africans, and the men of Far Harad are Africans the Mumakil (elephants) came from there as well. I would also like to bring up the fact that other races of villainous Men are the Easterlings (Asians in most cases), Black Numenoreans mostly from Umbar(not actually black just worship Sauron, the Mouth of Sauron was one and he's much different looking in the books) and the Dunlendings and Hillmen (Barbarians) also the Variags of Khand which don't really resemble any race.

Thanks. I didn't remember half of those. It's almost as if the guy created a whole world outside of what he explored in his stories. Maybe he should have taken a page off JK Rowling's book and spent more time writing about Aragorn's demisexual relationship with Elrond or how Boromir totally took it up the butt from Legolas.

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So, who's the first to tell this guy "hey, buddy? You have a bachelor pad and you can commission artists for bespoke works. You are the rich."?

 

[Dante Alighieri]

or how Boromir totally took it up the butt from Legolas.

Legolas was taken by Gimli though.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Thanks. I didn't remember half of those. It's almost as if the guy created a whole world outside of what he explored in his stories. Maybe he should have taken a page off JK Rowling's book and spent more time writing about Aragorn's demisexual relationship with Elrond or how Boromir totally took it up the butt from Legolas.

If he actually explained his work like what was in the redacted Silmarillion notes people today would be way more angry. He envisioned the LotR mythos as the true history of the Hyperborean Age as delivered to modern man by revelatory dreams and the works of the ancient Elves preserved by Christian monks. His unpublished work reads like a Christ-aligned version of Julius Evola's antiquity replete with the glorification of the European man as the descendant of Numenor. It's absolutely amazing stuff and we're not allowed to have that kind of fun anymore.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Legolas was taken by Gimli though.

It was a polyamorous relationship. GOD, you're so bigoted.

 

[Cilleystring]

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I wonder if that guy (or any sjw) knows how the guillotine and the revolution turned out for everybody

 

[Linako 2.0]

His unpublished work reads like a Christ-aligned version of Julius Evola's antiquity replete with the glorification of the European man as the descendant of Numenor.

And it's fucking awesome.

I wonder if that guy (or any sjw) knows how the guillotine and the revolution ended up for them

No, they just think that "nobles bad" and that they are the true Proletariat that will push the revolution and not the middle class backers that were decapitated along the nobles and anyone that looked at someone else funny.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

It was a polyamorous relationship. GOD, you're so bigoted.

Boromir wanted Frodo and his ring! Gimli and Legolas were poly with the Lady Galadriel. C'mon man get your fan fic right.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

Boromir wanted Frodo and his ring! Gimli and Legolas were poly with the Lady Galadriel. C'mon man get your fan fic right.

Does that make Celeborn a cuck or was he involved in it?

 

[Hux]

IIRC. The men of Near Harad are Arab-like, like North Africans, and the men of Far Harad are similar to Africans the Mumakil (elephants) came from there as well. I would also like to bring up the fact that other races of villainous Men are the Easterlings (Asians in most cases), Black Numenoreans mostly from Umbar(not actually black just worship Sauron, the Mouth of Sauron was one and he's much different looking in the books) and the Dunlendings (based on the British Celts) and Hillmen (Germans?) also the Variags of Khand which aren't described.

Based off the name, the Variags would have been based off the Varangians who were vikings that settled into Russia downwards and would make Kievian Rus

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

I also want to add that out of all of the races of Men that are villains in the LoTRs and other works the evilest ones are the 'whitest' ones, namely the Black Numenoreans, many of which directly serve Sauron as lieutenants. The rest are portrayed as being not truly evil. Most of them were tricked into fighting alongside Sauron, Saruman or Morgoth through false promises and coercion. And many of them didn't even choose to fight alongside Sauron apparently or were in it for their own ends.

 

[AnOminous]

I wonder if that guy (or any sjw) knows how the guillotine and the revolution turned out for everybody

If they ever get their wish they'll find out firsthand.

 

[Shaka Brah]

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The long shadow of Gamergate continues to drive left-wing tastemakers and NGOs to insanity. Gamers must be eradicated. "No pixels for fascists."

 

[The Curmudgeon]

Sometimes, all this social justice crap makes me feel a little sad. I try to ignore it. I try not to think about it. However, every day there's always news about people, companies, or whatever bending to social justice demands. It never seems to stop. I'm starting to feel like it won't go away for a long time. I hate that feeling. I really want to be wrong.

This pic reflects how I feel: