Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

I read several of the stories. None of them involved putting babies on futile life support, something I do have a problem with, and with two exceptions, and just in passing, they didn't mention any religious beliefs at all. My observation about parents who choose to do this boils down to one thing: They wanted to have their baby for as long as possible, and it's a decision nobody else can make.

When the McCaughey septuplets were born in 1997, some people criticized the parents for not reducing the pregnancy. Yes, they're devout Christians, but that's not why they kept them all. They just plain old wanted all of those kids! At that time, a local TV station did an interview with a couple in my region who had a septuplet pregnancy a few years earlier. They said, "We are not religious people, and we both have very strong pro-choice beliefs. We just didn't want to do that." Even though she miscarried the entire pregnancy within a few weeks of its discovery, they still had no regrets.

Selective reduction isn't the same as having a criptato on purpose, I can see how someone might have a problem with picking and choosing fetuses if they're all healthy, especially since I'd think people who get IVF are likely to experience more inner conflict about that then the average person. Octomom is still a cow in her own right but was smart enough to keep her life private for the most part if only to keep the tugboat coming.

 

[bigfart420666]

I'm thinking this post sums up why Kayli's mom has her in the public school system. Aside from the free babysitting and being able to throw her weight around she gets to make sure her child gets special treatment that other parents don't demand their children receive. Kayli's isn't learning anything but her mom doing shit like this makes it obvious learning isn't the point.

In a school for special needs children Kayli wouldn't necessarily be the most disabled and the other students get the same type of attention. In public schools Kelly Whistler can demand Kayli get extra attention, even if it doesn't involve her learning, and she can't be refused. I am really curious about what will happen if Kayli survives long enough to be in school for cheerleading tryouts, dances and other activities she will not physically be able to do .

if i were a sped teacher at her school i’d just push her into the maintenance closet for the whole day and wheel her ass out to her mom at the end.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

if i were a sped teacher at her school i’d just push her into the maintenance closet for the whole day and wheel her ass out to her mom at the end.

Kaylis' mom also strikes me as the type to hide recording equipment on her precious potato; she probably thinks the teachers and staff abuse Kayli when mom isn't around.
The was a family not far from me that did just that, she claimed her little dindu was being abused by teachers and tried to claim that him merely being sent to a time-out corner was proof of racism.

 

[booklover]

if i were a sped teacher at her school i’d just push her into the maintenance closet for the whole day and wheel her ass out to her mom at the end.

I've heard of special ed teachers doing things like this (or worse). They were arrested, as they should have been.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

I've heard of special ed teachers doing things like this (or worse). They were arrested, as they should have been.

Sped classrooms are so undereducated and understaffed that being locked in the closet is the least of your worries.

Not that it matters for Kayli.

 

[Opiophile]

Bit of a powerlevel, but a family friend works at a local high school as a special ed aide, and has for almost 20 years now. She used to just help kids with autism or Down's learn and whatnot, but now it's very different. She tells me that now she's basically just a glorified potato sitter (but with different words used lol). Most of her day now consists of cleaning/feeding the potato, wheeling it to all the regular classes it attends, while teachers and kids mean mug her for not keeping it quiet enough.

She says it was a fantastic job that is now completely unbearable. As we all know, the parents of these kids are the worst, so dealing with them is the cherry on top of that shit sundae. I really hope we can figure out a middle ground where normal kids can learn unimpeded, and the parents of these severely disabled children can feel like their kids aren't being tossed into a sanitarium type facility.

 

[Scarboroughgirl]

after reading through this in one go convinced it is one of the most depressing threads on the farms

 

[Misaki Nakahara]

Question: Is it possible for anencephaly babies to do anything at all? Can they even see or hear? These crazy moms always talk about their anencephaly baby like it has a personality but I don't see how a person can develop such a thing without a brain.

 

[John Merston]

Question: Is it possible for anencephaly babies to do anything at all? Can they even see or hear? These crazy moms always talk about their anencephaly baby like it has a personality but I don't see how a person can develop such a thing without a brain.

They're complete potatoes. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional. I've heard some people cite cases like Carlos Rodriguez or that guy in France whose brain was compressed from hydrocephalus as proof that anencephalic children can still have self-awareness. What these people fail to understand is that cases like Rodriguez weren't born that way-they had a normal brain at one point, so their nervous systems had no problem rearranging themselves in response to the disruption.

 

[Rescuetoast]

Microcephaly yeah totally possible to have a personality and even have a fairly normal life, sometimes, depending on the severity.
anencephaly? no. flat out no.There’s nothing there to develop a personality.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

The brain can compensate for a lot. Losing/missing a whole hemisphere. No cerebellum. No corpus callosum.

And yet, damage to precise areas can cause serious issues such as lesions in Broca's area.

In anencephaly, there is literally nothing above the mid brain. All they have is the brain stem and mid brain. Now, the mid brain includes the thalamus, which organizes and sends them on their way. Which is nowhere in this case. They have no structures responsible for processing information (the mid brain does minimal on it's own, it's more like an intersection), nor any of the final structures responsible for consciousness.

Edit: Found some cases of hydraencephaly where the individual was conscious. Again, here the brain develops and then loses structures, so keeping even some higher brain structure can confer consciousness.

 

[Android raptor]

Yeah everything I've heard is that anencephaly babies completely lack the parts of the brain needed for even basic awareness and conciousness. The only reason they aren't classified as brain dead is because they have a brain stem. It's impossible for them to have any conciousness or personality and parents who claim theirs does is just wishful thinking and misinterpreting involuntarily shit.

Fundies like zombaby mom and Jaxon's parents that make up crazy shit about anencephaly babies are equal parts entertaining and sad tbh.

I'm really curious to see a brain scan of Kayli to see what, if any parts she still has. I highly doubt her mom would share one though.

 

[booklover]

Bit of a powerlevel, but a family friend works at a local high school as a special ed aide, and has for almost 20 years now. She used to just help kids with autism or Down's learn and whatnot, but now it's very different. She tells me that now she's basically just a glorified potato sitter (but with different words used lol). Most of her day now consists of cleaning/feeding the potato, wheeling it to all the regular classes it attends, while teachers and kids mean mug her for not keeping it quiet enough.

She says it was a fantastic job that is now completely unbearable. As we all know, the parents of these kids are the worst, so dealing with them is the cherry on top of that shit sundae. I really hope we can figure out a middle ground where normal kids can learn unimpeded, and the parents of these severely disabled children can feel like their kids aren't being tossed into a sanitarium type facility.

And I'm assuming that they're not capable of doing the work, or even any cognizance at all? I, too believe in mainstreaming, but there are situations where it's not appropriate, and this is one of them.

Question: Is it possible for anencephaly babies to do anything at all? Can they even see or hear? These crazy moms always talk about their anencephaly baby like it has a personality but I don't see how a person can develop such a thing without a brain.

They don't even have enough brain tissue to keep themselves alive, which is precisely why the condition is incompatible with life.

 

[Wilted Farm]

I read this thread out of sheer interest in the human mind and body.

Spoiler: Possibly Autistic Question

Wow, what a fucking read. The children that interested me most were the ones that were basically normal before becoming meatsacks. Jahi McMath and Eva. Imagine going from carefree child to husk in a matter of minutes. Jahi was braindead before her official death in 2018 but considering her prior condition she most likely didn’t suffer. Eva had a brain injury and was reduced to a husk, albeit a conscious one. Considering her brain injury didn’t render her braindead, is there still a chance there’s even a sliver of something of her left? She is still alive but barely, so something has to be in there, right? I sympathize more with these cases than those born with it, but I still sympathize with both nonetheless. Obviously those born with these disabilities will never have a true life, but there still has to be something in there operating the body, even if just blinking. Whatever is in there has to be the intelligence equivalent to that of the simplest organisms, but can they transmit pain still? They definitely don’t know what it is, but can they feel it?

I have basically no knowledge of how the brain works, probably evident by everything I just said, but I’m very curious on the subject. What a pitiful existence it must be, just pain and nothing else. You don’t even understand why, you can’t. You’re just destined to a short existence of pain and all anyone will ever give you is pity.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

I read this thread out of sheer interest in the human mind and body.

Spoiler: Possibly Autistic Question

Wow, what a fucking read. The children that interested me most were the ones that were basically normal before becoming meatsacks. Jahi McMath and Eva. Imagine going from carefree child to husk in a matter of minutes. Jahi was braindead before her official death in 2018 but considering her prior condition she most likely didn’t suffer. Eva had a brain injury and was reduced to a husk, albeit a conscious one. Considering her brain injury didn’t render her braindead, is there still a chance there’s even a sliver of something of her left? She is still alive but barely, so something has to be in there, right? I sympathize more with these cases than those born with it, but I still sympathize with both nonetheless. Obviously those born with these disabilities will never have a true life, but there still has to be something in there operating the body, even if just blinking. Whatever is in there has to be the intelligence equivalent to that of the simplest organisms, but can they transmit pain still? They definitely don’t know what it is, but can they feel it?

I have basically no knowledge of how the brain works, probably evident by everything I just said, but I’m very curious on the subject. What a pitiful existence it must be, just pain and nothing else. You don’t even understand why, you can’t. You’re just destined to a short existence of pain and all anyone will ever give you is pity.

While I was googling about anoxic brain injury, I found case of a young boy who ended up like Eva, but then recovered to near normal. It varies so wildly with traumatic brain injury.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Sure it's been posted but I saw the title of this thread scroll past on the front page and it made me think about this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/c11din/im_putting_my_extremely_profoundly_disabled_7/

Personally, I think it's wrong that anyone tries to keep these kids alive. I know it's an emotional thing to give up life that you created, but there's a point where you have to admit that they're not really living, they're just existing. What's good about keeping a kid alive when they can't feel pleasure or pain and don't know who/where they are? Hypothetically, let's say someone keeps one of these kids alive long enough that they outlive their parents. Who takes care of the kid then? Someone in the family (or a friend of the family, perhaps) is then obligated to look after a "person" who isn't even aware that it's happening until it dies.

I don't believe a word of that story. It's just too perfect. Poor me, pity me. Not to mention it's been posted elsewhere,. And even if it is true, surely when he was an infant, they could've given him just palliative care, instead of putting him on all those machines?

 

[Pineapple Fox]

K-Lee’s brother looks so fucking done with this shit, poor kid.

 

[Wilted Farm]

I would be too if I was a teenager in that situation. Nobody except the mother seems to enjoy the daughter’s presence. I would like to hope his father pays more attention to him and he has good friends he can spend time with, without Kayli. I have read that the mother is quite a bitch. Hopefully she lets him be a teenager still, otherwise he’ll grow into a man with no friends or social skills, angry all the time with no guidance and busy parents.

 

[bigfart420666]

ig: lilyslittlelungs
this baby isn’t exactly a “tard” but this mom PISSES me off. she goes on and on in just about every other post how much PAIN and trauma her baby had to go through just to keep her alive. one post she was doped up with morphine and fentanyl which she needed around the clock, because at only a few months old would try to RIP her tubing out because she was in pain. apparently the kid lived completely doped up for a long time, and the mom doesn’t let u forget it. someone asked a question how she decided to let her daughter live in such pain, and she rudely replied, which i’ve seen her do to quite a few people, especially other moms in similar situations looking for a bit of support or kind words from someone who has gone through it and she will barely reply with just a thank you, if that. she also loves to hashtag her posts with tons of little trophy tags, making it like a special badge, the more fucked up her kid is the more tags she can slap on there and show off, like it’s a fucking good thing??? searching some of those tags on ig, u find a lotttttttt of these moms, it’s a black hole. i can’t imagine having a baby hauling around all that damn tubing every single day. that is no way to live.

 

[Friendly_AI]

Yeah, brain injury/stroke is wildly different compared to conditions like generalized epilepsy in terms of treatment and recovery. Due to professional interest I've read a lot on the topic, and there's this timeframe after a stroke or brain injury, where you need to rely on drugs, but then the therapy should be the main part of treatment, because if you continue to stimulate the growth of glial cells and new neural pathways, skills re-acquired in therapy won't stay. In case of epilepsy, it really looks like most of the drugs suppress the electrical activity in the brain to prevent abnormal activity from happening. Focal epilepsy has better prognosis than generalized, since it can be surgically treated.

Judging from experience (and I'm no medical specialist, just seen a lot of cases and interacted with patients), if you catch a condition in time, and if it's affecting smaller parts of the brain, rather than larger structures, there's more hope. With therapy, there's more hope. With specialists with experience, there's more hope. With neglect and lack of understanding what is going on - not so much.

In younger population (again - from what I've seen) the recovery is surprisingly harder since the timeframes for treatment and learning crucial skills are much tighter. It all depends on parent's work and understanding what they can and can't do. And there's no 100% method that will help, so it's understandable why parents want to try just anything, since it can be really hard after tens of changes to therapy and drugs to accept that nothing will be normal/back to normal.