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Sony is desperately trying to change the narrative. Haha I hope Microsoft and Nintendo take advantage of this situation.
The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.
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There's one amusing thing I think we're missing in this.
Did you know, for example, that a lot of moments and enjoyable bits of dialogue were never scripted in the first place?
Outside of the cutscenes and a few cliff notes the vast majority of world flavour dialogue comes almost directly from Troy and Ashley making shit up half on the spot while glancing at a few shitty notes written out for them beforehand.
So not only do we lose this by clear evidence of this awful plot in TLOUPee2, Drekman's probably killed off most of the adlibbing that worked so well for the first game too.
Did you know, for example, that a lot of moments and enjoyable bits of dialogue were never scripted in the first place?
Outside of the cutscenes and a few cliff notes the vast majority of world flavour dialogue comes almost directly from Troy and Ashley making shit up half on the spot while glancing at a few shitty notes written out for them beforehand.
So not only do we lose this by clear evidence of this awful plot in TLOUPee2, Drekman's probably killed off most of the adlibbing that worked so well for the first game too.
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With the foreknowledge that Sony has staff lurking the thread, I decided to drive home the fact that I intend to make them read every goddamned Space Mutiny joke we came up with and then some.
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So my posts have now appeared in both a big company's DCMA complaint and a lolcow's lawsuit. Is there like a Kiwi bingo for this shit?
Here's a spicy maymay, because fuck Sony:
Here's a spicy maymay, because fuck Sony:
I was trying to avoid spoilers for this because I was such a fan of the first game but a friend of mine advised me during the week to maybe have a look at them because he didn't particularly want me to waste my 60 bucks on the game.
What in the blue fuck? No one who enjoyed the first game is going to think this is good, regardless of how well it plays. It shits all over the original and destroys the characters that people liked.
Abby is just a ridiculously shit concept for a character. The daughter (?) of some redshirt from the first game is someone we are supposed to care about?
Her character model is outlandishly hilarious looking as well. They literally just took a female head and stuck it on a male character models body.
What in the blue fuck? No one who enjoyed the first game is going to think this is good, regardless of how well it plays. It shits all over the original and destroys the characters that people liked.
Abby is just a ridiculously shit concept for a character. The daughter (?) of some redshirt from the first game is someone we are supposed to care about?
Her character model is outlandishly hilarious looking as well. They literally just took a female head and stuck it on a male character models body.
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I did not care much about the leaks until I saw the memes. Wait, why is there a troon brutalizing Ellie? Keep it coming, that shit is gold. I expected this game to be filled with woke garbage but I still expected it to be good. This is just heartbreaking, I did love the first game.
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Something unique for once. An Ex-Naughty Dog QA person reacts to the recent leaks about it and he gives out his thoughts on it and what he believed may have happened behind the scenes.
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i have absolutely no idea about these games at all and never even looked at them prior to this leak drama
can someone give me a quick rundown on why there are suddenly trannies in what i think is a post apocalyptic survival story game?
can someone give me a quick rundown on why there are suddenly trannies in what i think is a post apocalyptic survival story game?
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autism happened.
Ok seriously, Neil Cuckmann or whatever his name is decided the first The Last of Us wasn't sjwish enough for him, even though a woman worked on the first game, and did this shit with his tranny oc instead of delivering a competently written game.
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Oh god 40 pages. 
and 
but whatever, imma post.
It really rustles my jimmies when SJW writers write woke fantasy societies, then put these societies in need of a savior hero. Bitches, if your society needs one specific person and a contrived set of circumstances to not break down and cause billions of deaths, it's A FUCKING FAILURE.
In public consciousness, it means a person can only advance to a higher layer if the lower levels are satisfied. If that actually held, there'd be no folk art, no military songs, no starving artists. Shithole countries would have no art at all. Heroism wouldn't even exist as a concept. Extreme sports wouldn't exist. People wouldn't go great lengths and even commit sudoku for love. People would prefer prisons with their guaranteed food and housing to the uncertainty of freedom. What about those who fuck over their friends for career benefits, that's prestige, so this must never happen, right? If a ten year old who drinks tea from the titan to buy math books with her lunch money rips your theory a new one, it needs to be thrown out like the garbage it is.
And if one retreats to "well, what counts as satisfied is different", well that just makes satisfaction self-definitional rendering the whole hierarchy useless if you say a long-distance cyclist's warmth and safety needs are met by a roll of kitchen foil and a halogen headlight and a volcel's relationship needs are met by aplastic ahem cold-cast porcelain spess princess' thank-you note. A theory's strength is its predictive power, the information it generates, the outcomes it designates as impossible which in fact don't happen. If everything a theory can do is slap definitions on things after the fact, it's useless.
In a post-apocalyptic setting, people's standards of satisfaction would obviously change. After the immediate danger (and I mean immediate, "oh god, a zombie is chasing me, where do I hide") passes (and it must have had: danger <-> death rate -> population) and by the time a post-apocalyptic society forms, self-actualization has become relevant again.
Also, who it was mocapped off matters fuck all. Greedo is not a tranny, R2-D2 is not a dwarf in a trash can, every preteen cartoon boy ever is not an adult woman, and every animal character is not secretly Frank Welker in a fursuit. It's pixels. Pixels are what they look like. If it looks like a man, it's a man, thinking otherwise is Ana Mardoll type insanity.
Here's a theory whose predictive power I hope will never be tested: in TLoU3, Cuckmann planned for Ellie to go hunt Abby, but because actually going through with the revenge has already been done, they instead make up, fuck, and birth the new generation of immune humans. Suck it nazi terves, you're EXTINCT, MUA HA HA.
and but whatever, imma post.Haha they made Ellie a homewrecking whore. When I first read the leaks, I'd supposed they were already an item and asked the guy to, uh, "donate sperm".
Textbook male feminism. Every women's rights issue, every protection they're afforded hinges on the fact that women aren't as fast or strong as men. When civilization breaks down, women suffer. This is why civilization is good. This is why women should be a protected class. Want to write stories where women suffer no gender disparity, write sci-fi where brainpower is all that matters. Athletics-wise, women are good at horse-riding and dog sledding, they'll be good at piloting giant robots.
It really rustles my jimmies when SJW writers write woke fantasy societies, then put these societies in need of a savior hero. Bitches, if your society needs one specific person and a contrived set of circumstances to not break down and cause billions of deaths, it's A FUCKING FAILURE.
I don't know if Maslow's hierarchy is extremely misinterpreted or was originally dumb (I like to think it's the latter), but whoa if I ever heard a thing that was more wrong.
Maslow's hierarchy of needs - Wikipedia
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In public consciousness, it means a person can only advance to a higher layer if the lower levels are satisfied. If that actually held, there'd be no folk art, no military songs, no starving artists. Shithole countries would have no art at all. Heroism wouldn't even exist as a concept. Extreme sports wouldn't exist. People wouldn't go great lengths and even commit sudoku for love. People would prefer prisons with their guaranteed food and housing to the uncertainty of freedom. What about those who fuck over their friends for career benefits, that's prestige, so this must never happen, right? If a ten year old who drinks tea from the titan to buy math books with her lunch money rips your theory a new one, it needs to be thrown out like the garbage it is.
And if one retreats to "well, what counts as satisfied is different", well that just makes satisfaction self-definitional rendering the whole hierarchy useless if you say a long-distance cyclist's warmth and safety needs are met by a roll of kitchen foil and a halogen headlight and a volcel's relationship needs are met by a
In a post-apocalyptic setting, people's standards of satisfaction would obviously change. After the immediate danger (and I mean immediate, "oh god, a zombie is chasing me, where do I hide") passes (and it must have had: danger <-> death rate -> population) and by the time a post-apocalyptic society forms, self-actualization has become relevant again.
Given that the stated reason behind the Abbomination is to be a self-insert for troons, this isn't particularly indicative of anything. They always retcon themselves as having been the girliest girls that ever girled.
Also, who it was mocapped off matters fuck all. Greedo is not a tranny, R2-D2 is not a dwarf in a trash can, every preteen cartoon boy ever is not an adult woman, and every animal character is not secretly Frank Welker in a fursuit. It's pixels. Pixels are what they look like. If it looks like a man, it's a man, thinking otherwise is Ana Mardoll type insanity.
Here's a theory whose predictive power I hope will never be tested: in TLoU3, Cuckmann planned for Ellie to go hunt Abby, but because actually going through with the revenge has already been done, they instead make up, fuck, and birth the new generation of immune humans. Suck it nazi terves, you're EXTINCT, MUA HA HA.
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Trying to wrap my head around just the extent of the clusterfuck this freak Druckmann has created:
I am surprised there is so much effort into trying to analyze this garbage pile of a plot. It's like someone getting themselves made Creative Director for a My Pretty Pony game and inserting a bunch of Big Anime Titty characters for the lulz and people seriously critiquing the story changes that were made to justify the additions.
- Guy looks like he is a creepy male feminist with the standard completely unshocking allegations ready to come out
- Appears to have always been a freak but was kept under control by much more talented and mature people
- Has driven out almost all of the key senior talent
- The damage to Naughty Dog is enormous - about 75 percent of the employees have quit since he has taken over
- Lives in a tiny Social Justice/Identity Politics echo chamber
- Is retconning the entire Last of Us game world with all of the tired old JK Rollings style idpol check marks characters
- None of the retconning or tokenism makes much sense or is even of any interest because all it is mindless retconning for his tiny SJW echo chamber asspats
- Some incredibly creepy self-insert of him having sex with the tranny-ish McGuffin Abby
- A blatant as you can possibly virtue signal and fuck you to the existing fan base where his self-insert character spits on the humiliated and dying white male
- The overall plot sounds more like someone's bad tumblr fanfict than any sort of post apocalyptic survival game.
- Is clearly a massive douchebag and not some poor sod whose grand vision crashed and burned with the public
I am surprised there is so much effort into trying to analyze this garbage pile of a plot. It's like someone getting themselves made Creative Director for a My Pretty Pony game and inserting a bunch of Big Anime Titty characters for the lulz and people seriously critiquing the story changes that were made to justify the additions.
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You should buy your friend a drink.
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Burch of Borderlands infamy has mentioned that people always talk about Handsome Jack being so great, and then use dialogue the actor improvised as examples. He tries to spin it as being all in good fun, but it's hard to shake the idea he's pissed off that his scripted genius isn't recognised.
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Okay guys, it's time to read another stupid pun book!
- Why is TLOU taking so much heat? Because it's always Sony in LA.
- Duckmann asked his fans to Neil before him. He got nailed where it leaks.
- Have you seen Abby's swing? It dropped my Joel-line!
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Should add a few things to this.
Tawna was removed from the games after Crash 1 due to Sony at the time thinking she was "inappropriate" for Crash since it was a kids games, which is how they came up with Coco. Which tbh wasn't a bad thing in the end. It's nice she's returned though and I think her newer design is better than her old one personally speaking.
Regarding the death animations, it was known at the time that Coco's inclusion in N Sane was a last minute decision, so many of the death animations couldn't be animated. The "feminist" bent makes no sense as you see her getting squished and thrown against the screen rather violently. She wasn't in the motorbike, scuba or jetpack stages because that was originally for Crash and would have taken too much effort to make new animations for Coco that weren't already done for Crash 3 to begin with (since those were there in the original). So really more or less just a lack of time, if they did her from the get go though earlier in dev I bet we would have gotten all of those at release.
Maybe the next one will show more death animations for her, whenever that is.
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you're right (that's what I meant. should've meant more specific). however some tend to skew in a certain direction due to normal group dynamics you find everywhere, but it's never on the level of wokeshit.
starts right with a kid getting blown up because they needed shepard to have PTSD, because that's a thing now in the third game. never mind depending on your initial choices shepard has been through so much shit even before me1 (and more since then) none of this makes sense.
sexy infiltration bot because EDI needed a sexy robot body, the whole think felt like it was ripped straight out of austin powers
(edit: to be more specific, she infiltrated an archeologial digsite, so unless she worked as some of the grunts digging shit up was part of the staff of scientists, so not only had the spybot fool fucking scientists, apparently a bot is now smart enough on it's own to fool a whole bunch of scientists, something even the geth can only do in very specific cases, see legion). so why is she the only one? does it mean there are more out there? is that supposed to be a failed snatcher throwback?
super speciul mars deus-ex machina because they couldn't come up with something better, it's like a naked guy suddenly drawing a gun out of nowhere to turn the table.
rachni queen symbolizing how little your choices actually meant at the end.
"battle for earth" was always fucking retarded because humans were never depicted as overly special, quite the opposite (youngest race to join, latest race to join an established political system hence considered inexperienced/brash/not knowing how the universe works/etc.).
reapers suddenly giving a shit about earth specifically was fucking bad writing and done to have some nice visuals for marketing. if earth was that much of a risk the way to go would be to torch the whole place for good and be done with it, not sitting there forever doing fuck all.
OH NOE THE REAPERS ARE COMING AND RAPING EARTH! - ok so just let's dick around here in other places of the galaxy because who would need any kind of urgency, it's a game so why wouldn't the reapers waiting for you to get your shit together?
gameplay was tedious as fuck full of bullet sponges and even more blatant chest-high walls everywhere it would put gears 1 to shame (and some other shit, bioware was never good at "action" games. although anthem is fun as fuck, I give them that - but was probably fixed by another studio)
the whole spacebattle at the end is offensively bad, the reapers knew exactly what shepard & the scooby gang were up to, yet they can fly a FUCKHUGE SLOW AS FUCK BALL OF METAL to the citadel, which was specifically moved there to protect it better. when your big victory depends on the enemy being beyond retarded not shooting it once or outright kamikaze it you know you fucked up.
companion conclusion and "saying goodbye" wasn't nowhere near as bad as all of that, still written abysmally bad but at least not outright attacking common sense like the rest. the extended cut just adds more dialog (while adding more crap that makes no sense and finally fucks any feel of urgency and momentum for good) which doesn't really fix anything, just makes people "feel" better in a game that's has been already shit for most of it's run.
I wasn't even salty about the 3 colors (seriously, expecting to have several dozen endings in a franchise linear as fuck where you never had any real agency where the story goes is stupid), but they couldn't even be arsed to show the outcome of your choices, it's literally a recolor. so on top of being shit writers they're also utterly lazy).
oh, and javik being blatant on-disc dlc.
sexy infiltration bot because EDI needed a sexy robot body, the whole think felt like it was ripped straight out of austin powers
(edit: to be more specific, she infiltrated an archeologial digsite, so unless she worked as some of the grunts digging shit up was part of the staff of scientists, so not only had the spybot fool fucking scientists, apparently a bot is now smart enough on it's own to fool a whole bunch of scientists, something even the geth can only do in very specific cases, see legion). so why is she the only one? does it mean there are more out there? is that supposed to be a failed snatcher throwback?
super speciul mars deus-ex machina because they couldn't come up with something better, it's like a naked guy suddenly drawing a gun out of nowhere to turn the table.
rachni queen symbolizing how little your choices actually meant at the end.
"battle for earth" was always fucking retarded because humans were never depicted as overly special, quite the opposite (youngest race to join, latest race to join an established political system hence considered inexperienced/brash/not knowing how the universe works/etc.).
reapers suddenly giving a shit about earth specifically was fucking bad writing and done to have some nice visuals for marketing. if earth was that much of a risk the way to go would be to torch the whole place for good and be done with it, not sitting there forever doing fuck all.
OH NOE THE REAPERS ARE COMING AND RAPING EARTH! - ok so just let's dick around here in other places of the galaxy because who would need any kind of urgency, it's a game so why wouldn't the reapers waiting for you to get your shit together?
gameplay was tedious as fuck full of bullet sponges and even more blatant chest-high walls everywhere it would put gears 1 to shame (and some other shit, bioware was never good at "action" games. although anthem is fun as fuck, I give them that - but was probably fixed by another studio)
the whole spacebattle at the end is offensively bad, the reapers knew exactly what shepard & the scooby gang were up to, yet they can fly a FUCKHUGE SLOW AS FUCK BALL OF METAL to the citadel, which was specifically moved there to protect it better. when your big victory depends on the enemy being beyond retarded not shooting it once or outright kamikaze it you know you fucked up.
companion conclusion and "saying goodbye" wasn't nowhere near as bad as all of that, still written abysmally bad but at least not outright attacking common sense like the rest. the extended cut just adds more dialog (while adding more crap that makes no sense and finally fucks any feel of urgency and momentum for good) which doesn't really fix anything, just makes people "feel" better in a game that's has been already shit for most of it's run.
I wasn't even salty about the 3 colors (seriously, expecting to have several dozen endings in a franchise linear as fuck where you never had any real agency where the story goes is stupid), but they couldn't even be arsed to show the outcome of your choices, it's literally a recolor. so on top of being shit writers they're also utterly lazy).
oh, and javik being blatant on-disc dlc.
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Normally, I would agree, but with the lockdown, pretty much everyone is stuck online. It may be partially why Sony is being so aggressive too.
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Some more hot garbage from yours truly, Jason Schreier
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This reeks of bullshit. Why would any dev play specific spoiler heavy parts and save them as a video?
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This reeks of bullshit. Why would any dev play specific spoiler heavy parts and save them as a video?
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My shitposts were good enough for their first DMCA but not the second one. Well, I'm putting in effort for that 3rd one lemme tell ya'
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"Hacked." Yeah, complete and utter bullshit. Why would they not leak every single think, just dump the files and 100% of the game as footage if this was "le l33t haxors?" And why not claim responsibility? And leak it at the current time which strongly suggests other motives. Also: How? Being a 'l33t hax0r' to random servers isn't as easy as the movies make it out to be, Jason professional Shill.
Garbage attempt at saving face, absolutely pathetic.