The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

[PrincessHomura]

I played all the 2010s Tomb Raiders. The first one I thought was really good, though with too much cover shooting. It wasn't woke in the slightest.

Rise felt like I'd missed something from the outset. I liked the mythology aspect of it by Lara still felt too much like a traumatised gap year student a la TR13. Turns out there was a comic series that bridges the gap between TR13 and Rise. Nice going, Squeenix. Ugh.

The expansion to Rise felt a lot better and tighter than the main game, which was too padded IMO. There were too many arena battled which weren't really in character IMO. Terrified gap-year student, but able to mow down entire armies with an AK-47? Really? And not suffer from it?

Shadow was really good gameplay-wise. The platforming was top notch and the stealth was pretty good and they actually emphasised stealth and ambushes rather than cover shooting which was frankly boring. Unfortunately it tried to shoehorn itself into the "mytharc" from Rise. Bad idea. Should have been a standalone story where Lara stumbles across clues to a hidden Inca town rather than chasing the big bad therein. It could have done with more character development frankly. I mean, at the end Lara teams up with a group of people who are basically Morlocks. Time to insert a nice "he who fights monsters" angle perhaps?

Wokeness? Didn't really see any. Although there was at the opening of Shadow a brag about how diverse their development team was, which left a nasty taste. It wasn't like "suddenly, a troon with superpowers!" or "have I mentioned my representation quotient today?" I suppose Shadow could be "all the bad guys are men and all the good guys are women" if you really stretch it, but that didn't feel shoehorned in the way that the later Wolfensteins had it.

EDIT:



The number of JURNALIZTS who just reprint press releases are uncountable.

You have a game with 4 white men and 4 minorities and the characters who die are the 4 white men while the other 4 survive and you say there's no wokeness? I think you just weren't paying attention.

The sequels had zero wokeness, but the first one had tons of wokeness and extremely bad writing on top of it.

 

[madeinabyss31]

You have a game with 4 white men and 4 minorities and the characters who die are the 4 white men while the other 4 survive and you say there's no wokeness? I think you just weren't paying attention.

The sequels had zero wokeness, but the first one had tons of wokeness and extremely bad writing on top of it.

I believe the first one also had a scene that was implied that Laura was going to be raped that was eventually changed for the "woke crowd" as well.

 

[Miller]

The release date was changed to June of this year because of the leak right? How much could they possibly change and playtest in such a short amount of time? At best we're probably talking a slightly alternate ending

I don't think it was originally planned for June but hey, they have to release a game this year. There were rumors about the game be pushed back so they could release it as a line-up with the PS5. That said, Sony seems to have some issues with the hardware of the PS5, that might also explain why they're silent about their next console.

 

[Hangula Hungui]

I just rewatched the ending, holy shit
Basically the moral of the ending is:

 

[BrunoMattei]

Sorry, I've been looking through this thread and where are the clips of the ending? I've only seen the one where Joel is killed and the one where She hulk fights Ellie and slits a chick's neck.

 

[Null]

The release date was changed to June of this year because of the leak right? How much could they possibly change and playtest in such a short amount of time? At best we're probably talking a slightly alternate ending

Depends on many factors, but don't be surprised if there's an additional delay.

 

[Miller]

Depends on many factors, but don't be surprised if there's an additional delay.

I think Druckmann's ego is way too big to admit defeat and rewrite the script at the last minute.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

I think Druckmann's ego is way too big to admit defeat and rewrite the script at the last minute.

That would surely be too expensive though given the amount of money already sunk into this?

 

[AmHole]

You have a game with 4 white men and 4 minorities and the characters who die are the 4 white men while the other 4 survive and you say there's no wokeness? I think you just weren't paying attention.

The sequels had zero wokeness, but the first one had tons of wokeness and extremely bad writing on top of it.

TR2013-
Devs: "This game will be Laras defining moment in which she becomes the Tomb Raider we all know."

ROtTR-
Devs: "With this new journey, this will be the defining moment in which Lara becomes the Tomb Raider we all know."

SOtTR-
Devs: "With the trilogy coming to a close, this game will be the defining moment in which Lara becomes the Tomb Raider we all know."

Devs now: "Dont expect the Lara who wears shorts or use duel welding pistols to ever come back. Shorts are a product of misogyny and her new weapon is a bow and arrow. Deal with it."

I think that's what really pissed me off about the series. They kept hyping up every game that she would become THE tomb raider in said game only to backtrack at the end and say just kidding shes never coming back you sexist.

 

[Aurora]

Depends on many factors, but don't be surprised if there's an additional delay.

I doubt there'll be another delay. They're going to sell what they have and squeeze it for every cent. The IP is basically dead.

I'd say the odds on a third DCMA tomorrow morning are much better than script changes.

 

[Agent of Z.O.G.]

Okay, I don't think it was quite as blatant as you made it but there was one jump where she had to have reversed gravity to have made, and that's the one between two overhangs. As in, leaping from one 45 degree overhang to grab onto another overhang at the same level. That is a jump that can only be made by reversing gravity and/or phasing through solid objects. I don't recall that you could leap in the wrong direction and do a 180 in midair or anything silly like that.

I only played the first reboot which was full of magnetized platforming but that webm and everything I've seen of the third one makes me doubt they included platforming that's possible to fail.

To tie this to ND it follows the same cancerous formula as Uncharted where platforming consists of holding forward and jumping when you reach the edge, with nothing that requires any sort of skill since all effort was put into making it look cool instead of be fun to play.

 

[KingofNothing]

Ok, I double checked and they definitely changed the release date to June 19 after the leaks happened. https://www.gamesradar.com/the-last-of-us-part-2-review/

I suppose there's always a chance they can delay it again after the backlash they've been getting in a last ditch effort to save their asses, but I'm pressing X to doubt at this point.

 

[madeinabyss31]

I think Druckmann's ego is way too big to admit defeat and rewrite the script at the last minute.

There would be too much to fix. It's a bit different than Mass Effect 3 which needed a reworked ending in a game that was built upon multiple paths anyways.

They're better off just releasing it ASAP and taking their losses.

 

[TexOffender]

 

[Miller]

That would surely be too expensive though given the amount of money already sunk into this?

Indeed and I think Sony has to release a big game as a diversion now as people are starting to wonder about the strange silence from the company in regards to the PS5 while Microsoft is preparing a big reveal this week.

 

[Unnguh]

I think Druckmann's ego is way too big to admit defeat and rewrite the script at the last minute.

Not disagreeing, but I would say it is more the very effective SJW network structure where it is effectively impossible to ever back down because you aren't just punished but you suddenly become the prime target for their attacks.

You burn your ships when you land.
You board the plane without a parachute.
You bet your full pot and never fold.

I am sure Creepy Druckman has a #meetoo attack just waiting in the wings if he gives as much as an inch to the neo-nazi, alt-right, gamergater, sexist manbabies who are 100 percent of the people upset at this steaming turd of a game.

The damage Creepy Druckmann has done to Naughty Dog is almost certainly irreparable with 75 percent of the company having left including the most talented people that made their games so successful and beloved. Sony has to know Naughty Dog in its current form is a dead company. Do as much damage control as possible and move on.

Perhaps Sony will clean house and find senior staff who can come in and rebuild the studio from scratch and start putting out new sane versions of the IPs, but that is incredibly difficult to accomplish.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

View attachment 1269370

What in the name of bloody hell is going on here? Why am I watching a trannybuilder fire a toy bow at clipboards?

 

[trent]

View attachment 1269370

She runs like she's shit her pants.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

View attachment 1269370

Watching this is surreal, the way she pulls back the bow instantly. It looks like it's sped up, but even so the instant aiming is just wrong. In the previous game when you got a bow, you had to nock the arrow and it would take a while for Joel to aim properly, because bows are a lot tougher to use than people think. That, and it was realistic that a bow would be slower to aim and fire with. This bitch is firing them off like she's fucking Legolas.

It's like they deliberately took the relatively grounded setting and created Abby specifically so they could break the rules they set in the previous game.

 

[Miller]

TR2013-
Devs: "This game will be Laras defining moment in which she becomes the Tomb Raider we all know."

ROtTR-
Devs: "With this new journey, this will be the defining moment in which Lara becomes the Tomb Raider we all know."

SOtTR-
Devs: "With the trilogy coming to a close, this game will be the defining moment in which Lara becomes the Tomb Raider we all know."

Devs now: "Dont expect the Lara who wears shorts or use duel welding pistols to ever come back. Shorts are a product of misogyny and her new weapon is a bow and arrow. Deal with it."

I think that's what really pissed me off about the series. They kept hyping up ever game that she would become THE tomb raider in said game only to backtrack at the end and say just kidding shes never coming back you sexist.

The Tomb Raider reboot series is one of the worst things that was ever made. For some reason they kept shoving the big samoan guy as a sidekick while it was clear in the 2013 reboot that the asian girl was Lara's best friend. Also Pratchett is a shitty writer who only gets jobs because her father was talented.