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I think the most important part of a hypothetical holonet farms that everyone here is missing is Palps would definitely be one of us. Even if he publically condemned it. Especially so. I can see it now

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Bail Organa is such a fucking cuck he had to adopt. Surprised he didn't pick a Twi'gger for extra woke points.

Mon Mothma just got caught working with the rebellion. Hoes mad.

Sorry Alderaan, but no one gives a fuck about your shithole planet and your faggot laws. Go huff some more tibanna, space abbos.
 
A minor adjustment of lines here and there would go a long way towards fixing these. Say the jedi can't act unless authorized - so then the goal is to bring the full force of the Jedi (pun intended) down on the Trade Feds. As one of my buddies likes to point out, the entire first act of the movie revolves around the Jedi being sent to "resolve" the dispute, and then are never called forward as witnesses by the Senate. Certainly with everything we're shown, it seems like their word would swiftly validate everything and cut through the red tape.
The explanation for this seeming conundrum is actually laid out for you in the opening crawl: "While the congress of the Republic endlessly debates this alarming chain of events, the Supreme Chancellor has secretly dispatched two Jedi Knights, the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy, to settle the conflict..." Valorum can't call the Jedi in to testify against the Trade Federation, because doing so would reveal that he's been acting without the consultation and approval of the Senate, and as we see over the course of the film, he's on a razor's edge with regards to the Senate's approval/cooperation to begin with.
 
The explanation for this seeming conundrum is actually laid out for you in the opening crawl: "While the congress of the Republic endlessly debates this alarming chain of events, the Supreme Chancellor has secretly dispatched two Jedi Knights, the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy, to settle the conflict..." Valorum can't call the Jedi in to testify against the Trade Federation, because doing so would reveal that he's been acting without the consultation and approval of the Senate, and as we see over the course of the film, he's on a razor's edge with regards to the Senate's approval/cooperation to begin with.
The catch is that "secretly" can be interpreted several different ways without the movie providing support one way or another.

For example, assuming your theory is true, then what power do the Jedi have to "negotiate" anything? Per this theory, the Trade Federation would be 100% in the right to put up a live video feed of the conference room straight to the Senate and completely hose Valorum's efforts. The second line of the movie calls them "the ambassadors for the Supreme Chancellor" so it's not like they even have plausible deniability (the Trade Feds could just pipe their comm logs in with the video feed). It's hard to claim a guy is doing something in secret when his agents walk up to the front door and loudly announce their purpose and intention.

We're not quite up to sequel trilogy level, but the prequels do have plenty of instances like this of the story's text fighting against itself.

Heck the very nature of the Jedi's relation to the Senate is never adequately shown on film. Can they be ordered around or are they a separate branch of government? (Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are sent back to naboo without any "by your leave" of politicians.)

Again, a simple line, say from Qui-Gon of "I'm doing this as a personal favor for Valorum. He's an old friend." Add consistency with the characters demonstrating they can't let anybody know what their true goal is (kind of like while on Tatooine). Then finish with the Jedi unable to testify without causing a worse scandal would create what's called story consistency and go a long way towards improving the prequels.

But instead Lucas does a lot of scattershot work then lets the audience stitch in a lot of the pieces he neglected to include.

Hmmm... given JJ's tendency to take other's work and then HYPER-CHARGE it, suddenly I'm starting to understand Rise of Skywalker so much more...
 
The catch is that "secretly" can be interpreted several different ways without the movie providing support one way or another.
You're overthinking things again.

For example, assuming your theory is true, then what power do the Jedi have to "negotiate" anything? Per this theory, the Trade Federation would be 100% in the right to put up a live video feed of the conference room straight to the Senate and completely hose Valorum's efforts. The second line of the movie calls them "the ambassadors for the Supreme Chancellor" so it's not like they even have plausible deniability (the Trade Feds could just pipe their comm logs in with the video feed).
"These Federation types are cowards. The negotiations will be short."

It's hard to claim a guy is doing something in secret when his agents walk up to the front door and loudly announce their purpose and intention.
To the Trade Federation. It's pretty obvious that the Trade-Feds are in on the deal, whereas the Senate isn't.

Heck the very nature of the Jedi's relation to the Senate is never adequately shown on film. Can they be ordered around or are they a separate branch of government? (Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are sent back to naboo without any "by your leave" of politicians.)
I think you just answered your own question.

Lucas does a lot of scattershot work then lets the audience stitch in a lot of the pieces he neglected to include.

... given JJ's tendency to take other's work and then HYPER-CHARGE it, suddenly I'm starting to understand Rise of Skywalker so much more...
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Disney Lucasfilm has Rectonned the Rule of Two.
In Short the Rule in two allows more than two Sith, it's just that they are all ruled over by Two Sithlords, so when Yoda says always two there are, no more, is just a giant misinterpretation of the rule. I hate Woke Wars.
This is just so they can make more woke sith that are smarter and better than the Sheev and Lord Vader. Not that Lucasfilms can do shit besides make shit comics and books given the lack of money their overlord is making.

Seriously, just use the EU excuse: Palpatine loved to have other projects at all times. Maul, Dooku, Grievous, Jade. It was all a gambit to make sure Vader kept on his toes (that and making his electronics vulnerable to his lightning as a quick I Win button just in case) and wasn't secure enough to off him like he did his own master. Keep the apprentice and lesser worried about others taking him by, and you will thrive.
 
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This is just so they can make more work sith that are smarter and better than the Sheev and Lord Vader. Not that Lucasfilms can do shit besides make shit comics and books given the lack of money their overlord is making.

Seriously, just use the EU excuse: Palpatine loved to have other projects at all times. Maul, Dooku, Grievous, Jade.
And if I recall the old EU correctly, a Dark Acolyte was someone other than a Sith Apprentice who was trained in the Dark Side by a Sith Master or Apprentice. Asajj Ventress and Savage Oppress were Dooku's best-known acolytes, but he apparently had others in the old EU. From what little I read about them, they were basically junior level darksiders that did little more than grunt work or lesser/menial tasks their superiors lacked the time or desire to perform themselves.

If I didn't know better I'd say Disney has chosen to disband the whole idea of dark acolytes just so they can reinvent the concept to their liking -- just as they've ignored various Lucas-era species to come up with their own hideous lookalike species.
 
I just finished the last episode of the Ahsoka show, it didn't shoehorn it self that much to Rots, but it was a little underwhelming except for the last scene where Ahsoka and Rex fake their deaths. Disappointingly this arc proves the last arc with Ahsoka was completely pointless, and don't forget frustrating to watch.
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I agree with this meme.

I feel we may get more Filoni Wars, if Disney likes money it would be smart for them to greenlit at least twelve more episodes, or make a Son of Dathomir movie, but so far Disney and Lucasfilm seem to prove they hate money, and care more about ideology then good story-telling.

I'm going to leave this art from Filoni he posted after the realease of The Last Jedi, to warn anyone who thinks he's the best fit for Lucasfilm.
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I think the most important part of a hypothetical holonet farms that everyone here is missing is Palps would definitely be one of us. Even if he publically condemned it. Especially so. I can see it now
I want to agree, but eventually he's going to get mad. Especially when some foolish kiwi disses his beloved classic music.
 
While Disney is stupid.

The Rule of two was one of the most asinine things in the setting so they accidentally fell ass first into doing something good.
I kind of disagree because it will be turned bad since this is the Rat we're talking about right here.

Plus I kinda don't mind the reason it exists, at least the EU reason since pure movie it's kinda dumb. Basically it was created because the previous batch of sith were too busy infighting and politicking and killing each other to do anything effectively, the guy who set the rule, Darth Bane didn't want to see that shit happen again after culling the other sith in a mafia style send off.

Plus if you set it up so that they still have acolytes that can at any point replace the apprentice, either by the Master wanting a new one or the Apprentice winning, it kinda works.
 
I'm sorry but this is the best video I have ever seen.
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I'm now just reminded of my idea of having Grievous as this monster in my retake of the Prequels. I was clearly inspired by Genndy without realizing it, since I had him as this terrifying Jedi killer who began stalking and fucking with Anakin for some reason (Palpatine reasons).

He was a crooked minded strategist and logistician, and such a dangerous saber wielder that even my take on Mace Windu, who was force weak by Jedi standards, but a once in a generation prodigy with a blade, wasn't sure if he could win in a straight fight.

But on to more of this him breaking Anakin in Episode 3. We're talking shit like killing his friends in the order, troopers who served under him, and then finally leaving Obi Wan for dead and abducting Padme while she was pregnant to utterly make him fall to wrath. That being where Anakin snaps and pulls a Mace in the Genndy cartoon, crushing his organs with a dark side infused compression, killing him in the process.

Thus Anakin fades, and Vader appears. Made worse when Obi Wan appears, and tries and fails to talk sense. That leads to Mustafar.
 
I'm now just reminded of my idea of having Grievous as this monster in my retake of the Prequels. I was clearly inspired by Genndy without realizing it, since I had him as this terrifying Jedi killer who began stalking and fucking with Anakin for some reason (Palpatine reasons).

He was a crooked minded strategist and logistician, and such a dangerous saber wielder that even my take on Mace Windu, who was force weak by Jedi standards, but a once in a generation prodigy with a blade, wasn't sure if he could win in a straight fight.

But on to more of this him breaking Anakin in Episode 3. We're talking shit like killing his friends in the order, troopers who served under him, and then finally leaving Obi Wan for dead and abducting Padme while she was pregnant to utterly make him fall to wrath. That being where Anakin snaps and pulls a Mace in the Genndy cartoon, crushing his organs with a dark side infused compression, killing him in the process.

Thus Anakin fades, and Vader appears. Made worse when Obi Wan appears, and tries and fails to talk sense. That leads to Mustafar.
That was actually Palpatine's plan for either Grievous or Obi-wan to die on Utapau, to make it much easier for Anakin to break. It reminds me of that deleted scene with Obi-wan out of character beating Grievous to a pulp, but now I want it be Anakin instead when he snaps.

So the guy who runs Making StarWars turns out be a fucking creep and possible Pedo, he used to throw accusations against critics of Disney Star Wars, and the main Starwars subreddit has banned discussions of the fandom to protect Jason Ward.
 
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That was actually Palpatine's plan for either Grievous or Obi-wan to die on Utapau, to make it much easier for Anakin to break. It reminds me of that deleted scene with Obi-wan out of character beating Grievous to a pulp, but now I want it be Anakin instead when he snaps.
I kind of hate how they made him comical and weak outside of Genndy's run tbh. Episode 3 at least he could still be imposing and the only reason Obi didn't die was his style was purely defensive (plus you know, he couldn't or the OT wouldn't make sense) and he had to cheat with a gun to kill him. But Wolf Fucker Filoni's fanfic? Saturday cartoon villain missing most of even that.
So the guy who runs Making StarWars turns out be a fucking creep and possible Pedo, he used to throw accusations against critics of Disney Star Wars, and the main Starwars subreddit has banned discussions of the fandom to protect Jason Ward.
Male Feminist is outed as a sex pest and molester. This must be Tuesday.
 
I kind of hate how they made him comical and weak outside of Genndy's run tbh. Episode 3 at least he could still be imposing and the only reason Obi didn't die was his style was purely defensive (plus you know, he couldn't or the OT wouldn't make sense) and he had to cheat with a gun to kill him. But Wolf Fucker Filoni's fanfic? Saturday cartoon villain missing most of even that.
Don't worry it was fixed in the Utapau Arc and Son of Dathomir, which were never fully finished or adapted for the show because the Wolf Fucker loves to hype up his Ocs.
 
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