Artcow Manic Pixie Nightmare Girls / Mallorie Jessica Udischas-Trojan / Jesse William Trojan / Jessica Udischas / SweetBeans99 - Total Bitch Who Supports Shoplifting and Looting; Creator of New Guy, the First Meme of the 2020's

[orelpuppington]

if any of my friends acted like a pathetic, self loathing, bipolar lunatic anytime i had fun without them, then there's a pretty good reason why i wouldn't want to hang out with them in the first place...

if i see a friend post a selfie of themselves having fun with someone else, my reaction isn't to make it about myself and throw an adult temper tantrum. butwhatdoIknow, i'm a boring normie.

 

[Chan the Wizard]

The problem with trying to diagnose Jess from her characters is that all of them are self-inserts to some degree.
Except for the good ones like Bradley and New Guy.
But all of the characters are just Jess: sad, depressed, trans, bpd, an asshole.

 

[AnOminous]

The problem with trying to diagnose Jess from her characters is that all of them are self-inserts to some degree.
Except for the good ones like Bradley and New Guy.

Except Bradley and New Guy actually are, also.

New Guy is the angel perched on her shoulder suggesting good choices. She spits on that guy and has thrown him in a dumpster. It's so cartoonish it's actually funny. Jess literally had the angel and devil on the shoulder thing and went into a tard rage at the very fact of the angel.

It's almost Manichaean how fucking stupid this choice was.

 

[Ricket]

bradley is a gay fucking name LOL

 

[Tanti-Fanti]

The problem with trying to diagnose Jess from her characters is that all of them are self-inserts to some degree.
Except for the good ones like Bradley and New Guy.
But all of the characters are just Jess: sad, depressed, trans, bpd, an asshole.

That's the main issue with straw-man comics and people like Jess themselves. They aren't aiming to have a compelling argument to tell or to just deliver something funny. What these people want is validation and attention. Why does Jess continue making these self-insert comics if she's going to get hate from them anyways? Validation and attention. Plain and simple. The straw-man comics are just the easiest ways to do it. Only in Jess's case compared to other creators, they have an iota of self-awareness to know that what they're talking about is bs, but not enough conviction to change their negative mindsets.

Jess simply lacks the ability to remove herself from the conversation and see the bigger picture. The girl wen viral TWICE. TWICE and not once did she try to empathize with anyone telling her that her mindset was crap. Instead people like Jess just dive even further in their ideologies. They can't let go of themselves because it would require removing themselves from the scenario entirely. Because having empathy/sympathy for others requires effort. It would require them to care about others than themselves. Which again, Jess simply can not do.

 

[BIG DADDY]

Oh wow, that makes a disturbing amount of sense. To me, the cat comes off as the kind of unsympathetic character whose sole function is to create conflict in the story. An over the top asshole who creates their own problems for us to laugh at, like Peter Griffin or Bojack Horseman. I didn’t even consider the possibility that this was supposed to be one of those “relatable” mental illness comics. Usually those are about vague depression symptoms that anybody can experience occasionally. Of course I should’ve realized a narcissist would assume everybody can relate to their self insert having a narcissistic breakdown.

I’ve always seen the difference between a good flawed character and a bad one as entirely dependent on whether the author is aware of the flaws as actual flaws or not. Bojack is a good example because his alcoholism and tendency to use people to fill a void was heavily incorporated into his character arcs and caused him problems. Whereas shit media like Twilight can have the lead ditch her friends and it’s clearly seen as a positive or at least neutral thing by the author.

Mallorie’s comic is for sure in the second half, and even the flaws she is aware of she expects the reader to feel sorry without any expectation of growth or change, because Jess’s own self-deprecation comes from knowing she’s shitty but being too sadbrains/bpd to understand why or change her behavior. She could have used the party event as a way to have the cat character realize maybe it’s not healthy to have only one friend, or think about why the person throwing the party specifically said she didn’t want her there - I’m sure when this happened to Jess it was in response to her typical cunty behavior. But nope, the punchline is always alcohol, tears and learned helplessness just like it always is.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

I’ve always seen the difference between a good flawed character and a bad one as entirely dependent on whether the author is aware of the flaws as actual flaws or not. Bojack is a good example because his alcoholism and tendency to use people to fill a void was heavily incorporated into his character arcs and caused him problems. Whereas shit media like Twilight can have the lead ditch her friends and it’s clearly seen as a positive or at least neutral thing by the author.

Mallorie’s comic is for sure in the second half, and even the flaws she is aware of she expects the reader to feel sorry without any expectation of growth or change, because Jess’s own self-deprecation comes from knowing she’s shitty but being too sadbrains/bpd to understand why or change her behavior. She could have used the party event as a way to have the cat character realize maybe it’s not healthy to have only one friend, or think about why the person throwing the party specifically said she didn’t want her there - I’m sure when this happened to Jess it was in response to her typical cunty behavior. But nope, the punchline is always alcohol, tears and learned helplessness just like it always is.

You can have likable but still generally awful characters that don't change as long as the media admits that characters are indeed not great. Futurama is pretty good at this having multiple bad to downright evil characters that you still want to see again and even root for. Especially Bender is great at doing tons of morally not great things while staying as a lovable little skipper. Sure Bender is rude, steals, cheats and probably has killed multiple life form without care but also other characters don't trust him that much, he gets caught, punished, has to trough emotional turmoil, has standards and has taken great risks to his own well being to up hold those standards. They balance him doing and getting away with bad things with him suffering do consequences and other reasons.

 

[BIG DADDY]

You can have likable but still generally awful characters that don't change as long as the media admits that characters are indeed not great. Futurama is pretty good at this having multiple bad to downright evil characters that you still want to see again and even root for. Especially Bender is great at doing tons of morally not great things while staying as a lovable little skipper. Sure Bender is rude, steals, cheats and probably has killed multiple life form without care but also other characters don't trust him that much, he gets caught, punished, has to trough emotional turmoil, has standards and has taken great risks to his own well being to up hold those standards. They balance him doing and getting away with bad things with him suffering do consequences and other reasons.

For sure. I’d love to see a comic with a character like Jess explore the typical trans journey, where the lead character’s descent into a more and more narrow echo chamber leads to increasing isolation, paranoia, and inability to distinguish real transphobia from constructive criticism. The main character, instead of improving their flaws, would get more toxic and neurotic the more they adopted being trans as their main identity. It would be a dark commentary on how a prototypical, effiminate loner can get sucked into a community that doesn’t have their best interests at heart and ends up destroying their body, mind and relationships, but for some reason these trans writers haven’t made something like this yet.

 

[Meowthkip]

For sure. I’d love to see a comic with a character like Jess explore the typical trans journey, where the lead character’s descent into a more and more narrow echo chamber leads to increasing isolation, paranoia, and inability to distinguish real transphobia from constructive criticism. The main character, instead of improving their flaws, would get more toxic and neurotic the more they adopted being trans as their main identity. It would be a dark commentary on how a prototypical, effiminate loner can get sucked into a community that doesn’t have their best interests at heart and ends up destroying their body, mind and relationships, but for some reason these trans writers haven’t made something like this yet.

We're kind of already getting that as a meta narrative.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

You can have likable but still generally awful characters that don't change as long as the media admits that characters are indeed not great. Futurama is pretty good at this having multiple bad to downright evil characters that you still want to see again and even root for. Especially Bender is great at doing tons of morally not great things while staying as a lovable little skipper. Sure Bender is rude, steals, cheats and probably has killed multiple life form without care but also other characters don't trust him that much, he gets caught, punished, has to trough emotional turmoil, has standards and has taken great risks to his own well being to up hold those standards. They balance him doing and getting away with bad things with him suffering do consequences and other reasons.

Hell, you can even have every character in a franchise be an unrepentant asshole if it's part of the joke. That's what Archer does, and it works great.

 

[Norman B. Normal]

For sure. I’d love to see a comic with a character like Jess explore the typical trans journey, where the lead character’s descent into a more and more narrow echo chamber leads to increasing isolation, paranoia, and inability to distinguish real transphobia from constructive criticism. The main character, instead of improving their flaws, would get more toxic and neurotic the more they adopted being trans as their main identity. It would be a dark commentary on how a prototypical, effiminate loner can get sucked into a community that doesn’t have their best interests at heart and ends up destroying their body, mind and relationships, but for some reason these trans writers haven’t made something like this yet.

Mal is certainly the most likely artist to try, although she would think she was making a comic about a brave trans woman's struggle to realize her true identity. The big villain would be a friend of the main character who tries to get them to understand that all of their loved ones are growing increasingly concerned about how toxic and malicious they're getting. The main character's big triumph comes when they discover the inner strength to permanently sever contact with all of their friends and family and find a new home in Twitter's troon community. In the moving final scene, the main character earns a follow from Adrian Harrop and trades their very first porn tweet with Kevin Gibes.

 

[Mars Attacks!]

I can't find the original comic now, but does anyone else remember a strip she made about feeling like she has to "say something trans" or be controversial in order to get people to read her comic? It ended with a panel of her doing an awkward dance and repeating some typical trans platitudes to appease her followers. It seems like she truly believes her own bullshit at this point, but I wonder if she still has those kind of thoughts on what she says.

 

[Meowthkip]

I can't find the original comic now, but does anyone else remember a strip she made about feeling like she has to "say something trans" or be controversial in order to get people to read her comic? It ended with a panel of her doing an awkward dance and repeating some typical trans platitudes to appease her followers. It seems like she truly believes her own bullshit at this point, but I wonder if she still has those kind of thoughts on what she says.

You mean this one?

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

You mean this one?

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I guess if you dance the jig long enough you start being sincerely grateful to massa for the pennies he throws at you.

 

[Mars Attacks!]

You mean this one?

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Yeah, that's the one! I wonder if she still feels this way deep down.
Turns out there is more to Jess than being trans, though. There's also being a petty thief and petty person in general. But that seems to also be tied into the whole Radical Queer thing.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Yeah, that's the one! I wonder if she still feels this way deep down.
Turns out there is more to Jess than being trans, though. There's also being a petty thief and petty person in general. But that seems to also be tied into the whole Radical Queer thing.

I’m starting to think there’s actually a deeply manipulative side to her. It’s the way she turns on a dime from sweet-and-wacky to asshole to poor victim.

 

[Meowthkip]

I guess if you dance the jig long enough you start being sincerely grateful to massa for the pennies he throws at you.

That strip made me really sympathetic to Jess.

If it was sincere at the time, it's no longer sincere now.

 

[Fatal Cardiac Infarction]

Oh there's a shocker someone who doesn't like the gender they were born with so much that they'll mutilate themselves to look like the other is actually seriously mentally ill.

 

[Kingfisher9000]

Oh there's a shocker someone who doesn't like the gender they were born with so much that they'll mutilate themselves to look like the other is actually seriously mentally ill.

We’re discussing his other mental illnesses, though.

 

[A.Shitposter]

From what I've seen it's almost less that furries are more generous with their spending and more that every single other demographic that would potentially pay in for content and product is incredibly stingy, and some of them are even more entitled and bitchy than furries are on the average. I've seen channers outright say that anyone that pays for content they want to see is a drooling mongoloid, but also that the content creators need to tell those paying customers to fuck off and draw more of what the poster wants instead, for free, because it's just such superior content (and it's not furry).

Trying to survive on money just from the various types of #wokes is an exercise in futility if you aren't a Big Name Woke yourself who appears to have connections to the upper echelons of the culture. (Which is why you see so many of them try to claim they're "friends" with said big names because they got a twitter reply one time.) #wokes love to demand the sort of content they want to see and make loud, whiny claims of how they're a customer base being ignored, but rarely actually buy when that content is provided to them. Slapping the furry shit on top of the wokeness is the only way to actually court income.

As someone who hangs out in drawthreads on 4chan you're pretty much spot on.

Spoiler: Talking about art

There are so many people who post the same requests over and over in multiple threads sometimes for years who will get mad if their requests aren't filled and bitch about how artists shouldn't get paid because they're spending their time drawing stuff anyways.

I had a couple guys straight up tell me that they don't respect artists as people and only use them as content machines and then got pissy when the better artists left the threads and people ignored their requests.

Furries are unique in that they're more likely to be interested in making art themselves because they tend to only want art of their own characters drawn and can understand an artists perspective, while random dudes on 4chan who just want generic fapbait do not.

Furries also tend to not care about the actual quality of the artwork while dudes on 4chan are choosing beggars.

There have been so many threads derailed because of people getting a fill and the requester immediately saying that it doesn't count because it wasn't up to their standards or someone crying that someone else got a request filled and that it was bullshit because they didn't like the others request.

There's been several instances where I said I would take a request and not even 9 minutes later they would be spamming the thread asking if I was done yet or claiming that if I didn't post in under 10 minutes I wasn't going to actually do the drawing which ironically made me not want to do the drawing. This does not happen in the furry threads.

Woke people are stingy with their money because they tend to be hypocrites most of all, they have to have an emotional attachment to the people they donate to and it's usually the ones with the most clout who they desperately want to be in the friend group of.