Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Maggots on a Train v2]

People like Gwen and Kelly reinforce a culture where it's considered a taboo to admit that yeah, this situation sucks. Instead of putting these kids on pedestals, people should be thinking about how it affects the entire family.

That's my beef, aside from sucking down tax and charity dollars into a black hole with no payoff except delayed grief for the parents. People should know going in that if you have a profoundly disabled child, it can ruin life for the siblings, step-siblings, grandparents, in-laws, anybody who gets sucked into throwing their time down the hole. It's fucked up for them to have to live a shitty second-rate life, then hear the "miracle" spiel from people who won't ever change an adult diaper.

 

[booklover]

I've been in this thread a few times, but I don't really follow any of these people on social media. For some reason, this channel has been recommended to me multiple times a week for the past few weeks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iw9LdX-A30

The baby is still a baby, so I guess it's hard to tell exactly HOW far behind she is. She clearly has some form of microcephaly. It's very sad to me. This is obviously a young and normal-seeming bourgeois couple, and their first child is profoundly disabled. That's this young lady's life GONE. At one point in the video she does "therapy" with the baby to get her to recognise colours and textures. The baby is very unresponsive and cannot even focus her eyes.

It's just tragic, and definitely makes you reconsider breeding.

The channel started a month ago. This child has schizencephaly, which is a division in the brain that's not supposed to be there.

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[MetalParakeet]

I know I've mentioned this before, but I can't handle looking at Kayli. It's not often that I get a visceral reaction from photos, but looking at her makes my insides shrivel up in disgust? Fear? I don't know.

I've spent quite a large amount of time working with dead people and that's all I see when I look at her. The swollen cheeks, bulging eyes, open mouth... She looks like a dead kid. And not only just a dead kid, but a kid that died from a traumatic injury.

 

[Free the Pedos]

Honestly I think it's just a tard trait in general. I haven't seen a million speds or anything, but almost all the ones I have always have seriously fucked and crooked teeth. Like, way more than compared to the normal occurrence of crooked teeth in the population. I wish there'd be a scientific study on the subject to find the connection, because it's too high to be a coincidence.

Linking to @speshul_sn0wflake 's dental posts in the Kailyn Wilcher thread because they go in depth on disabilities and dental deformities and are really interesting. Most of them are highlights, so you can find them by just clicking to the next highlight.

"When your brain doesn't form correctly, nothing else does - also, brain malformation will effect the skull and in turn the jaw is effected, which will fuck everything else up. Certain diseases and genetic conditions like cerebral palsy, DS, Turners, Prader Willi etc al.. come standard with their own unique dental challenges."

Speaking of which, I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but why did you keep having kids after the disabled one was born? She clearly needs a lot of your time, and the more kids you have, the more your attention is divided and the less you're able to tend to her. I'm asking partially because it seems like a lot of the kids posted in this thread are middle children in big families.

If the user's kid is institutionalized in hospitals and residential facilities, they might not take up as much of their parents' time as one that lives at home.

 

[Unknownpocket]

Long-time listener, first-time poster, etc., jumping in to point out that Ansley's mom adopted her knowing she was disabled. I give her a little bit of a pass because most of these Jesus freaks would never dream of actually taking on that kind of responsibility for somebody they weren't biologically related to. Also:

dress her up in cutsey clothes made for real children

She dresses Ansley like a kid because she is kid-sized. It's not like she's decked out in ridiculous amounts of frills a la the Kayli horror show. What's she supposed to wear?

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

Whatever Jesus said to her left her face frozen in a permanent agonized scream. Jesus must have said some eldritch shit.

Fuckin' gnosticism man, not even once. No wonder early Christians wanted to stomp that shit out as quick as possible.

Holy power level, Batman. All you really needed to say was the last part about how caring for a profoundly disabled kid is incredibly difficult, and not the sunshine and rainbows people like Kelly make it out to be.

There's a Reddit thread that's been discussed here before where parents talk about regretting having kids. A lot of the users in that thread had low-functioning disabled kids. They talk candidly about how it's not fun, or a gift from Jesus. It can destroy marriages, damage the siblings psychologically, and bankrupt families. I wish people would be more forthcoming about that aspect. People like Gwen and Kelly reinforce a culture where it's considered a taboo to admit that yeah, this situation sucks. Instead of putting these kids on pedestals, people should be thinking about how it affects the entire family.

Speaking of which, I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but why did you keep having kids after the disabled one was born? She clearly needs a lot of your time, and the more kids you have, the more your attention is divided and the less you're able to tend to her. I'm asking partially because it seems like a lot of the kids posted in this thread are middle children in big families.

IMO this is not indefensible in and of itself. Depends on the likelihood of the condition affecting future children, how long the disabled kid is expected to live, whether enough respite care is provided that the other kids can at least spend some time doing normal stuff with their families and whether they purposely make the gimp the center of everything.

Even then it can be a total crapshoot. Often times if tended to appropriately kids with minor disabilities can have some semblance of a normal life aside from extra physio and doctors' appointments with an IEP. Knew a girl who literally had almost half her brain removed short after birth due to a gargantuan tumor. Don't want to go into too much detail about her specific health situation but it ended up being really good and the brain grew to compensate for most functions, she adjusted to her limitations enough that she needs very little if any help for activities of daily living. Her parents were told there was a good chance she could end up criptato level but did their best to prevent that from happening, got lucky, and did decide to have another kid once they realized she was doing well and were assured it was not genetic.

The best part was that her family was a bunch of closet Aryan Nation white supremacists at home and she didn't have a great verbal filter, so she'd swear a lot and tell the most offensive jokes about "niggers", "spics" and "wahoos" all the time but had just enough tard teflon to get away with it, it was hilarious. Whatever else you can say about them her family handled this properly IMO and she is restricted on her internet activity nowadays to prevent her from inadvertently ending up a lolcow.

People who have a disabled kid, take advantage of the best genetic counseling and prenatal testing in the world, then keep getting knocked up and taking every pregnancy to term despite bad odds are the shitstains I have a problem with, Hartley being the most infamous. Those poor harlequin ichthyosis are the ones that kill me the worst and if you let that shit go to term on purpose that shit's like a war crime.

 

[MysticMisty]

People should know going in that if you have a profoundly disabled child, it can ruin life for the siblings, step-siblings, grandparents, in-laws, anybody who gets sucked into throwing their time down the hole.

Not even profoundly, even just a run of the mill tard in the mild to moderate range makes an immense difference in a families life. The pro-life propagandists pretend that they're basically normal and live basically normal lives, but that shit is far from the truth. Even a mild tard will struggle with normal classes, need extensive lessons about things other kids don't, have difficulty learning basic tasks, and ultimately will only live a semi-independent life with plenty of support at best. It's a very sad situation that's taboo to acknowledge, unfortunately.

 

[allthecheese]

Linking to @speshul_sn0wflake 's dental posts in the Kailyn Wilcher thread because they go in depth on disabilities and dental deformities and are really interesting. Most of them are highlights, so you can find them by just clicking to the next highlight.

"When your brain doesn't form correctly, nothing else does - also, brain malformation will effect the skull and in turn the jaw is effected, which will fuck everything else up. Certain diseases and genetic conditions like cerebral palsy, DS, Turners, Prader Willi etc al.. come standard with their own unique dental challenges."


If the user's kid is institutionalized in hospitals and residential facilities, they might not take up as much of their parents' time as one that lives at home.

Another thing that I've heard is that it affects hair growth in interesting ways too. Instead of having one or two cowlicks, there might be three or four, hair might be different textures on different parts of the head....just more pointing to how early a lot of the head/brain stuff is "set" embryologically speaking

 

[Bani]

Fuckin' gnosticism man, not even once. No wonder early Christians wanted to stomp that shit out as quick as possible.



IMO this is not indefensible in and of itself. Depends on the likelihood of the condition affecting future children, how long the disabled kid is expected to live, whether enough respite care is provided that the other kids can at least spend some time doing normal stuff with their families and whether they purposely make the gimp the center of everything.

Even then it can be a total crapshoot. Often times if tended to appropriately kids with minor disabilities can have some semblance of a normal life aside from extra physio and doctors' appointments with an IEP. Knew a girl who literally had almost half her brain removed short after birth due to a gargantuan tumor. Don't want to go into too much detail about her specific health situation but it ended up being really good and the brain grew to compensate for most functions, she adjusted to her limitations enough that she needs very little if any help for activities of daily living. Her parents were told there was a good chance she could end up criptato level but did their best to prevent that from happening, got lucky, and did decide to have another kid once they realized she was doing well and were assured it was not genetic.

The best part was that her family was a bunch of closet Aryan Nation white supremacists at home and she didn't have a great verbal filter, so she'd swear a lot and tell the most offensive jokes about "niggas", "spics" and "wahoos" all the time but had just enough tard teflon to get away with it, it was hilarious. Whatever else you can say about them her family handled this properly IMO and she is restricted on her internet activity nowadays to prevent her from inadvertently ending up a lolcow.

People who have a disabled kid, take advantage of the best genetic counseling and prenatal testing in the world, then keep getting knocked up and taking every pregnancy to term despite bad odds are the shitstains I have a problem with, Hartley being the most infamous. Those poor harlequin ichthyosis are the ones that kill me the worst and if you let that shit go to term on purpose that shit's like a war crime.

I should clarify that when I asked that question, it wasn't on account of the likelihood of more kids being born with the condition. I was asking because of workload, basically. For instance caring for a newborn baby and a low-functioning kid at the same time seems like it would be a huge challenge. I was thinking about the likelihood of the neurotypical kids being neglected, or the disabled one not receiving adequate care.

But I hadn't taken unique cases into consideration, like when the disabled kid has a shortened lifespan, or lives in a facility, etc.

 

[large_farva]

Another thing that I've heard is that it affects hair growth in interesting ways too. Instead of having one or two cowlicks, there might be three or four, hair might be different textures on different parts of the head....just more pointing to how early a lot of the head/brain stuff is "set" embryologically speaking

Always thought that was interesting

Unusual Hair Whorls
Normally, because the growth of the brain occurs in a predictable fashion, there is one primary hair whorl over the vertex of the head. When hair whorls are multiple or in unusual locations, abnormal brain growth may be a causative factor. In this infant, a hair whorl can be seen behind the right ear, and the rest of the hair appears unruly, with a variety of directions of growth. Trisomy 13 was the underlying diagnosis.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Always thought that was interesting
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I love odd phenotype things that are indicative of underlying disorders. Especially when you go into a sped classroom and two kids look related when they're not because they share a known or even unknown disorder.

 

[Android raptor]

Trisomy 13 is even deadlier than trisomy 18, right? Are there any fundies with trisomy 13 spuds out there?

 

[bigfart420666]

this is worse than a horror movie

 

[The Husbando Collector]

this is worse than a horror movie

This feels like something I would see on the deep web where it ends with the potato getting brutally killed. Those eyes are the window to a soulless husk....

 

[RoLoKo]

this is worse than a horror movie

That is Makayla, who was discussed in the Hartley thread. She passed away a couple of months ago. Her parents aren't cows as far as I know

 

[C@astrophica]

this is worse than a horror movie

It's an unsettling combination of a normal parenting task (getting knots and tangles out of a child's hair) being performed on a person who is...well, I don't know how to describe it, but a more primitive culture would probably classify her as possessed.

(Though I've seen some of their other videos and the parents seemed like normal people trying to make the best of a bad situation.)

 

[Kikomi]

this is worse than a horror movie

the gurgling noises.
the bugs flying around her open mouth.
her face, so close yet so far from looking fully human.

at least this one is at rest, in god's big heavenly potato patch.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

It's an unsettling combination of a normal parenting task (getting knots and tangles out of a child's hair) being performed on a person who is...well, I don't know how to describe it, but a more primitive culture would probably classify her as possessed.

(Though I've seen some of their other videos and the parents seemed like normal people trying to make the best of a bad situation.)

MaKayla was born to young parents who seem to have coped as well as possible caring for an extremely disabled child. They had no idea there was any problem until weeks or months after she was born.

They didn’t wheel her around everywhere in public for attention - because they recognized she was most comfortable and happy at home in a calm environment. They accepted and acknowledged she was on the level of a newborn baby and always would be.

While you can criticize people for putting their kids on YT, this family gave good insight into what life is like caring for a severely disabled child. I think it’s particularly important because so many religious loonies sell this bs fairly tale of life with their miracles.

I‘ve not watched many videos they’ve done but the 4-5 I’ve seen have much that is admirable and that I can respect - esp for a couple that were just teenagers when they had the child.

 

[GenociderSyo]

MaKayla was born to young parents who seem to have coped as well as possible caring for an extremely disabled child. They had no idea there was any problem until weeks or months after she was born.

They didn’t wheel her around everywhere in public for attention - because they recognized she was most comfortable and happy at home in a calm environment. They accepted and acknowledged she was on the level of a newborn baby and always would be.

While you can criticize people for putting their kids on YT, this family gave good insight into what life is like caring for a severely disabled child. I think it’s particularly important because so many religious loonies sell this bs fairly tale of life with their miracles.

I‘ve not watched many videos they’ve done but the 4-5 I’ve seen have much that is admirable and that I can respect - esp for a couple that were just teenagers when they had the child.

She did a video once on just that topic that she didnt bring makayla to things with the family all the time and used respite at times since she knew it would be aversive to her daughter.

 

[bigfart420666]

yeah the fly trying to get into her constsntly open mouth was probably the worst part. like a fly trying to land on a rotting corpse. that’s what her mouth looks like, her face even. just stuck open like she’s dead. and i’m sure her breath was very foul, considering her mouth was constsntly dry and open. her tongue was graying. she is horrifying to look at, but fascinating to watch in a morbid curiosity. i get the same repulsed feeling seeing her that i got when watching lola. especially when she seems reactive of things like having her hair brushed but she’s clearly not in there, just freaking tf out because she’s over stimulated and her body is short circuiting.

i don’t blame the mom for not hauling her around everywhere, she is a lot of work for someone who just can only lay there and make gasping noises and drool. they made a bed for her in their van for when they were building their house. that seemed so bizarre to me thinking like they can just lock up this potato and build a home. i’m sure they checked on her and cares for her while they were doing it but just imagining having another child holed up in the van that u don’t have to worry about moving or getting into anything, u can just shut the door and forget about it for an hour or so.... fucking weird shit man. regardless, she’s horrific to look at and the videos are sometimes hard to look at...