Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I was just putting it out there because the bottle I have only lists the amount in IU, not in mcg. I had to google it, which inconvenienced me for a split second. I now feel I have gotten my revenge on whoever designed that label by informing others of this conversion.

IU stands for 'Irritating Unit'.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

IU stands for 'Irritating Unit'.

I order stuff in grains when I want to annoy nurses.

 

[I can't imagine]

IU stands for 'Irritating Unit'.

Best part of IU is that it's conversion changes depending on the substance being measured. So 1000 IU of Vitamin A isn't the same as 1000 IU of Vitamin D.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Outside China

3,939,242 confirmed / 274,666 dead / 1,291,319 recovered

3853837 / 272226 / 1243057 yesterday

USA

1,309,168 confirmed / 78,794 dead / 212,534 recovered JohnHopkins
1,325,913 confirmed / 79,399 dead / 238,078 recovered Infection2020

1283929 / 77180 / 198993 yesterday JohnHopkins
1299015 / 77871 / 223603 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

223,578 Confirmed / 26,478 dead / 133,952 recovered

222857 / 26299 / 131148 yesterday

Italy

218,268 confirmed / 30,395 dead / 103,031 recovered

217185 / 30201 / 99023 yesterday

France

176,782 confirmed / 26,313 dead / 56,148 recovered

176202 / 26233 / 55892 yesterday

Germany

171,324 confirmed / 7,549 dead / 143,300

170588 / 7510 / 141700 yesterday

 

[afternoon_tea]

Michigan, USA

"Three inmates with COVID-19 were sent to a prison that had no coronavirus cases among the prisoner population after a private lab incorrectly reported their tests negative, the state Department of Corrections said."
They have since been quarantined, along wth prisoners they came into close contact with.

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2020/05/3-michigan-inmates-with-coronavirus-sent-to-virus-free-prison-after-lab-mix-up-corrections-official-says.html

(archive)

And the wokest will use this story to show why we have to say locked down forever and how anyone protesting lockdowns is a white supremicist who hates poor blacks, even though shit like this is entirely preventable and has fuckall to do with whether non-essential businesses open up or not.

Like @teriyakiburns I'm also a little tipsy and there's something about the lockdown rhetoric that bothers me that I don't feel like I can talk about elsewhere without mincing my words.

You have these financially comfortable middle class authoritarian lefties using the poor, the elderly and "POCs" as shields for why it's unethical to reopen, but the truth is that the most vulnerable are still going to be in the exact same position regardless of any lockdown lifts, unless those areas get the specific attention they need. Opening hair salons and office buildings doesn't change what's happening in the nursing homes/meat packing plants/tenements etc

These assholes are narcing on people walking in the park with their kids without a mask on, when that's not where the goddamned problem is.

They use the most vulnerable as nothing more than a tool to advance their own desires. And they call it the humanist stance.

They're convincing themselves it's about protecting the most downtrodden, but it's really about how they don't want to go back to work themselves. If it was about the migrant workers and prisoners and eldery they'd atleast be offering ideas on what can be done to protect them.

My friend in California (of course) posted this article about how Trump stopped thinking of the coronavirus as an emergency when he found out it was mostly killing the elderly and poor blacks. It got 118 likes. I was the only person who made a response and I asked "what needs to be done to help the people who are the most vulnerable to this disease?" and I didn't even get a single half assed answer, just a bunch of "heart" responses. This is exactly what people mean by "virtue signalling".

This is why even though I am ostensibly "left" in many ways, I am absolutely disgusted with "the left" these days. They don't give a shit about anything but saving their own asses even though they go above and beyond to pretend like they're the ones tending to the disenfranchised.

I know this is autistic, but as a "low wage essential worker" who they claim to be speaking for, it pisses me off. There's nothing wrong with looking out for yourself and your family, you don't have to cloak it under the false pretence that it's about protecting anyone else.

 

[Vecr]

And the wokest will use this story to show why we have to say locked down forever and how anyone protesting lockdowns is a white supremicist who hates poor blacks, even though shit like this is entirely preventable and has fuckall to do with whether non-essential businesses open up or not.

Like @teriyakiburns I'm also a little tipsy and there's something about the lockdown rhetoric that bothers me that I don't feel like I can talk about elsewhere without mincing my words.

You have these financially comfortable middle class authoritarian lefties using the poor, the elderly and "POCs" as shields for why it's unethical to reopen, but the truth is that the most vulnerable are still going to be in the exact same position regardless of any lockdown lifts, unless those areas get the specific attention they need. Opening hair salons and office buildings doesn't change what's happening in the nursing homes/meat packing plants/tenements etc

These assholes are narcing on people walking in the park with their kids without a mask on, when that's not where the goddamned problem is.

They use the most vulnerable as nothing more than a tool to advance their own desires. And they call it the humanist stance.

They're convincing themselves it's about protecting the most downtrodden, but it's really about how they don't want to go back to work themselves. If it was about the migrant workers and prisoners and eldery they'd atleast be offering ideas on what can be done to protect them.

My friend in California (of course) posted this article about how Trump stopped thinking of the coronavirus as an emergency when he found out it was mostly killing the elderly and poor blacks. It got 118 likes. I was the only person who made a response and I asked "what needs to be done to help the people who are the most vulnerable to this disease?" and I didn't even get a single half assed answer, just a bunch of "heart" responses. This is exactly what people mean by "virtue signalling".

This is why even though I am ostensibly "left" in many ways, I am absolutely disgusted with "the left" these days. They don't give a shit about anything but saving their own asses even though they go above and beyond to pretend like they're the ones tending to the disenfranchised.

I know this is autistic, but as a "low wage essential worker" who they claim to be speaking for, it pisses me off. There's nothing wrong with looking out for yourself and your family, you don't have to cloak it under the false pretence that it's about protecting anyone else.

Yeah, something really needs to be done about those meat packing plants.

 

[afternoon_tea]

Yeah, something really needs to be done about those meat packing plants.

Yeah, Otterly posted info about how meat packing plants are historically plague factories. If any of the essential workers need legit PPE and extreme sanitation protocol it's going to be there.

I haven't heard much about farm workers, but it is probably a good idea to keep an eye on that too, maybe it won't be as bad because they're outdoors, but many of those workers live in crowded housing together so it may be a problem too.

I can imagine there being some smaller second waves involving areas where people who work in these places live, best to try and nip that shit in the bud as much as you can.

 

[Angry New Ager]

A thought - see all different sorts of masks available, various designs. I'll pass. In my opinion, buying any mask than a basic utilitarian mask is buying into having to wear a mask at all, unless you are already in poor health. Not wasting the money. Only wear a mask when going into stores. Don't do that much. Looking forward to throwing the mask away at the first opportunity.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

I failed to buy any masks until the stocks were already wiped out, but I did find a couple of unused N95s down in the basement. I can sew, and have a massive fabric stash, but I refuse to make any, for the reason you gave--it's buying into the idea that we have to wear masks at all. Plus, I'm almost certain I had a mild case of Covid-19 back in March, and thus enjoy at least some degree of immunity.

So, when I leave the house for groceries on Tuesday, I'll take one of my N95s, wear it only if I have to (and I will have to in Costco), and take it off the second I am outside and it is no longer required. I will just keep it in the car and re-use it two weeks later on my next shopping trip; after all, any viruses it may have snagged will be dead by then. It's just a necessary bit of costume to keep fear-crazed zombies from coming after me at this point, and I will treat it as such.

(As for Shakespeare, I used to get absolutely hammered on all the free drinks I got for reciting the St. Crispin's Day speech at the shitty student bars surrounding the major university I once lived near. Fratboys in particular loved it, but if I really wanted to get the drinks flowing my way, I'd recite "Invictus." Fratboys get a boner for "Invictus" like no other poem ever written.)

 

[deeplyhigh]

My friend in California (of course) posted this article about how Trump stopped thinking of the coronavirus as an emergency when he found out it was mostly killing the elderly and poor blacks. It got 118 likes. I was the only person who made a response and I asked "what needs to be done to help the people who are the most vulnerable to this disease?" and I didn't even get a single half assed answer, just a bunch of "heart" responses. This is exactly what people mean by "virtue signalling".

Early on, some acquaintances were bitching about Trump’s response and how he wasn‘t doing enough, so I asked “what actions would you like to see taken?” and all I got was “....well, um, MOAR TESTING!” and then crickets after that. They don’t have solutions or thoughts of their own, they only know what the media tells them and ORANGE MAN BAD. Unsurprisingly, this same group continues to believe this is a plague and thinks that increased testing is the only way out, even after I pressed on what exactly increased testing would get us other than realizing the death rate is indeed much lower, which we could logically deduce anyway if people used their brains.

 

[FuckedUp]

Still amazed it took less than two months for me to be 100% vindicated.

 

[Burd Turglar]

Slowly but surely groceries in Wisconsin are getting dumber and dumber about this shit. The more "precautions" they take, the more they're just forcing people to stand closer and closer together. It's fucking infuriating. I used to do my bi-weekly shopping late as fuck on the weekends but my grocery of choice is no longer 24 hours as they "need time to stock shelves". They stock shelves all day so fuck off with that shit. Limiting entry and exit points is forcing people into even closer quarters.

Also, fuck all the trash people that just throw their masks on the ground in the parking lot.

 

[Aib Ld]

USA

1,309,168 confirmed / 78,794 dead / 212,534 recovered JohnHopkins
1,325,913 confirmed / 79,399 dead / 238,078 recovered Infection2020

Still bad at math but am I wrong for thinking why does the USA have more deaths than recoveries compared to everywhere else? What's up with that?

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Still bad at math but am I wrong for thinking why does the USA have more deaths than recoveries compared to everywhere else? What's up with that?

The numbers are being faked. They are not confirming deaths anymore. If you have died in the past month or so and they had a "reasonable assumption that COVID19 helped cause it" then it's a COVID19 death.

BE AFRAID WE HAVE AN ELECTION TO WIN

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Her hospital system gets money from the government for treating Coronavirus patients. $8,000 just for showing up, about $40,000 each time someone goes on a ventilator, plus normal insurance money.

I'm wondering if we've created a set of perverse incentives where hospitals can only stay in business by saying everyone has the disease, and that's artificially inflating the numbers causing the system to break down.

There's all kinds of weird incentives in different areas. Between this COVID-19 Bounty hospitals are receiving to treat those patients at the expense of anyone else, we also have the $600 Federal add-on to unemployment. While well-intentioned, it now gives many people more in unemployment than they get in weekly wages, and some don't want to return to work. One hopes that their employers report refusals to the state, since refusing to accept a job offer generally disqaualifies one from receiving further benefits.

Unrelated to the COVID-19, the state sex offender registries get funding based on the number of people on the registry. That's why that registry morphed from its original intent to track child molesters to include additional unrelated convictions.

Stuff like these lead those in charge to realize they can game the system and profit if they can declare enough people meet the criteria for the extra funding. In the case of COVID-19, it also helps inflate low numbers to further sell the doomer narrative if people go solely by raw numbers and not metrics such as cases and deaths per 10k people.

There's just a very vocal minority of aggro dicks who can't wrap their minds around why there are shortages and take it out on us schmucks.

There's always been that element of people who look down on others in the service industry for no reason and treat those as second-class citizens or worse. whether it's the cafeteria worker making summer job money, or the person works retail for whatever reasons, there's always those people that use those workers as their personal punching bags -- sadly for tings outside the workers' control most of the time.
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In other news (mostly Michigan, but one item appears to be more national):

Michigan restaurants, behind one of their biggest lobbying groups, want to reopen May 29 as soon as current restrictions are set to expire. A proposal has been presented to show how restaurants could reopen and do their part to ensure safety of all involved parties.

https://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/dining/mark-kurlyandchik/2020/05/08/whitmer-restaurants-reopen-michigan-may-29/3096464001/

(archive #1)
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Michigan has the most overall deaths for prisoners and is currently second per-captia to New Jersey. On the positive side, Michigan has tested over 38000 prisoners, much more than any other state. As expected, advocacy groups want whatever prisoners possible to be released early.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/05/09/prisoner-coronavirus-covid-19-deaths/3090182001/

(archive #2)
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Lawmakers nationwide, including some in Michigan (namely Detroit's City Council Pro Team and a representative to an area with a large Latino population) are claiming that the disproportionate number of minorities infected with -- and dying from -- COVID-19 is discriminatory and potentially a civil rights violation. They want the Federal Attorney General to investigate their list of claims.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/08/coronavirus-minority-communities/3095420001/

(archive #3)
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Yesterday, I think it was, there was an attack ad claiming the US has more COVID-19 related deaths than China. Most people might press X to doubt, but Democrats and those with terminal TDS appear to be eating up the sensationalized claims.
(Edited to fix late-night typos)

 

[Slap47]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0BckmEWi-w

Big brain hours in Canada.

 

[Disheveled Human]

After lockdown the numbers are the same as if we were not locked down open it up!

 

[Mrs. Addams]

LA Updates: My antibody test came back negative. I guess whatever Roommate and I had back in Jan/Feb was just a really bad flu? The test was done through LA county and supposedly had a 90-95% accuracy but is not considered accurate enough to be used to determine who can donate antibody plasma.

Meanwhile in the nursing home, Grandpa has got a positive test for waflu - but is thus far asymptomatic. They've shuffled him off to the COVID wing. Everytime they shuffle him, they disconnect his phone and we can't get through for a few days. When we call in (to get the nurses to fix the phone) they sound like they're all going mad. One kept saying she couldn't fix Grandpa's phone because she needed the phone to call an ambulance. Sounds like a great environment over there.

I bounced around town a bit and masks seem to be universal in shops. Grocery shopping is almost back to normal. My friends remain strongly divided on whether or not the lockdown should end, but when I remind them that our favorite Thai restaurant is in danger of going out of business, they get very sad.

 

[Disheveled Human]

In Canada though the Lockdown measures have stifled it down. Free Range was a doubling of around 3-4 days with lockdown measures its more like 8-10 days so at least that says something. A lot of old people are dying in old folks homes which is sad. ill provide some graphs.

Lockdown is working the drop off is not magic its because most Canadians are sucking the government cock and being careful.

 

[Overly Serious]

So this is a cross-post but it would be easy for people who don't frequent Internet and Technology to miss.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/comput...own-the-world-turns-out-to-be-sh-tcode.69464/

Short version: The code used by Neil Ferguson / Imperial College to produce projections of deaths from Covid-19 is really bad. We can't even see how bad it is because they're refusing to release the actual code that was used and will only release a version that they've had others come in and help clean up for the past month and still the version they will show is something any professional programmer would be ashamed of.

Computer Model That Locked Down The World Turns Out To Be Sh*tcode

The output we’re experiencing as a result is a worldwide lockdown and shutdown of the global economy, and we don’t really know if this was necessary or not because we have no actual data (aside from Sweden) and severely flawed models.

www.zerohedge.com

Apparently the original version was a single 15,000 line C++ file. If you're not a programmer at all, be assured that this simple fact will already be making those who are shudder. IMO, this is *huge*, but unlikely to reach critical mass in terms of media coverage because it's technical; unless public opinion on lockdowns shifts and it's decided to throw Neil Ferguson to the wolves.

Anyway, real discussion in that other thread but wanted to make people aware of it.

 

[Rohan Davey]

After giving it some thought, I've decided that the male Karen in my mind will be a "Kevin."

I've always called them Garys. Personally, Doug makes me think of the cartoon character. Kevin is perfect except with The Office (US) faintly audible at all times from every point on the earth's surface people will think it's a reference to the Kevin from that show, which is a related but distinct species of pathetic middle-aged guy.