🐱 Anti-Porn Groups Target Websites' Ability to Accept Credit Card Payments

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Taking a page from their crusades against Craigslist and Backpage, anti-sex-work campaigners are calling for credit card companies to stop doing business with porn websites.

In a new letter to credit card companies, activists throw around phrases like sex trafficking and child abuse while positioning their request as a common-sense plea to stop exploitation. "The letter was sent to 10 major credit card companies, including the 'Big Three', Visa, MasterCard and American Express," reports the BBC. Signed by groups from the U.S., the U.K., India, and elsewhere, it asks these companies to immediately stop doing business with Pornhub and other online porn platforms.

The groups suggest that since it is impossible to "judge or verify consent" in online porn content, "let alone live webcam videos," we should treat all online porn as if it's recorded rape.

A Pornhub spokesperson told the BBC that the letter is "not only factually wrong but also intentionally misleading" and that these signatories were simply attempting "to police people's sexual orientation and activity." The spokesperson added that Pornhub has "a steadfast commitment to eradicating and fighting any and all illegal content, including non-consensual and under-age material," and "any suggestion otherwise is categorically and factually inaccurate."

This isn't the first time activists have gone after the ability of websites to process payments related to sex work. When Craigslist and later Backpage were the moral panic's big targets, advocates including Illinois sheriff Tom Dart lobbied companies to stop doing business with these websites—even though government officials and advocacy groups had earlier asked Craigslist and Backpage to accept credit card payments because they thought it would make tracking customers easier.

Dart went so far as to threaten credit card companies that did business with Backpage, prompting Visa and Mastercard to temporarily suspend their services. (This was later ruled unconstitutional.) In the wake of this, Backpage began accepting Bitcoin and personal checks for classified-ad payments. Federal prosecutors(which seized Backpage in 2018 and are still fighting to send its founders to prison) and folks like Sen. Kamala Harris (who tried twice, unsuccessfully, to convict Backpage leaders when she was attorney general of California) have framed the shift to Bitcoin as an attempt to hide illegal activity; they paint the personal checks as an attempt at money laundering.

Even worse, mistakenly shared memos from federal prosecutors (which a judge has ruled inadmissible, despite their exculpatory nature) show that the federal government strategized about how check or cryptocurrency payments could be used in a money-laundering case against Backpage several years before Dart would use unconstitutional means to ensure that the company had to accept these methods if it wanted to make money.

"They won't stop at Backpage," we warned here back in 2017. And they certainly haven't. Since then, every tactic activists used to demonize (at the expense of sex workers, trafficking victims, and free speech) has been expanded into broader internet territory.

They said the 2018 law FOSTA would carve out an exception to Section 230 (which is basically the internet's First Amendment) only to stop sex trafficking; now they say Section 230 carve outs are needed to fight everything from gun violence to terrorism to revenge porn to people being mean to conservatives to not removing ads that Joe Biden doesn't like.

They said Backpage was just especially bad and needed special consideration; since then, they've used the same logic in cases against Facebook, Craigslist, and Mailchimp—and in legislation aiming to kill encrypted communications entirely.

Now they're pushing to frame all adult-content platforms—including those, like webcams, that make sex work safer and put that performers in more control—as sex-trafficking venues and to bully credit card businesses into dropping their business. Right now they're pressuring them privately, but don't be surprised when the politicians join in. Backpage and small sex-work ad sites were the test case. Censoring the rest of the internet is the goal.
 
So it's two spergs having a slap fight amongst themselves? You have the weird pro-sex worker camp screeching how being a e-whore is an actual legit job, and now you have these anti-sex workers saying every time an e-girl plunges her pussy with a dildo it's rape?
Sex worker isn’t a real job but the site companies are
 
all adult-content platforms—including those, like webcams, that make sex work safer and put that performers in more control—as sex-trafficking venues and to bully credit card businesses into dropping their business.

Yep, no underage girls have ever tried to use webcams, and all porn sites verify every camgirl with driver’s license and SSN.

Ok, I’m sure it’s not common, but let’s not act like all porn is virtuous, either.
 
Yep, no underage girls have ever tried to use webcams, and all porn sites verify every camgirl with driver’s license and SSN.

Ok, I’m sure it’s not common, but let’s not act like all porn is virtuous, either.
That reminds me when fucking Project Melody had to provide her driver's license to the site she uses as well to make sure the person wearing the motion tracking suit wasn't underage....or was it the VA? It's been a while.
 
this could have worked 20 years ago but today porn sites are way too big and make way too much money for payment processors to just drop them like that
This.

Streaming is huge now and all the big free porn sites pull in tremendous amounts of money daily. It's off the top of my head but I remember something like 70% of all internet sales traffic being adult related. No sane payment processor will torpedo themselves for a moral panic.

Way too late now. The early 00's was their last shot basically.
 
The groups suggest that since it is impossible to "judge or verify consent" in online porn content, "let alone live webcam videos," we should treat all online porn as if it's recorded rape.

That's dumb. Why don't we treat it like prostitution?

Because it's prostitution by proxy.

The spokesperson added that Pornhub has "a steadfast commitment to eradicating and fighting any and all illegal content, including non-consensual and under-age material," and "any suggestion otherwise is categorically and factually inaccurate."

Do tell, does Pornhub collect the DLs and SSNs of its less established producers to verify their ages? Could they even possibly ensure that someone camming by themselves isn't being pimped out by someone other than themselves?
 
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I mean Pornhub did host videos of a 15 year old girl who'd been a missing person for nearly a year and a dude was arrested in connection to it, so they're not wrong.
i heard about this, but didn't get any of the details.

From what i've seen of these activists around twitter, they claim pornhub is complicit in sex trafficking and hosting child porn, claiming it should be shut down because of cases like this.

Laila Mickelwait started up #TraffickingHub and a petition to basically get pornhub shutdown because of these claims.
About the Petition
In the last few months, there have been several shocking cases of sex trafficking and child rape films that were hosted on Pornhub. A 15-year-old girl who had been missing for a year was finally found after her mother was tipped off that her daughter was being featured in videos on the site — 58 such videos of her rape and sexual abuse were discovered on Pornhub.


Her trafficker, who was seen in the videos raping the child, was identified using surveillance footage of him at a 7-Eleven where he was spotted with his victim. He is now facing a felony charge.

In February 2020, the BBC reported the harrowing story of 14-year-old Rose Kalemba from Ohio who was taken at knifepoint, raped for 12 hours, and the crime scene videos of her abuse were uploaded to Pornhub. Rose said that she pleaded with Pornhub to remove the videos of her rape and torture for months, and it wasn't until she posed as a lawyer and threatened legal action that Pornhub finally took them down.

These are not isolated cases. In 2019 the Internet Watch Foundation stated that it alone had confirmed 118 cases of child rape and sexual abuse on Pornhub—half of the videos were Category A level abuse, which includes penetration and sadism.

Likewise, the Sunday Times investigation into Pornhub reported finding "dozens" of illegal abuse videos within "minutes", including abuse images of children as young as three years old. Some of the videos identified by the newspaper's investigation "had 350,000 views and had been on the platform for more than three years." It went on to say "three of the worst clips still remained on the site 24 hours later."

Also in recent news was the case of 22 women who were deceived and coerced by Michael Pratt, owner of GirlsDoPorn, into performing sex acts on film that were subsequently uploaded to Pornhub. These women sued GirlsDoPorn and won a $12.7 million lawsuit against the company. According to a federal indictment, Pratt and his co-conspirators produced filmed child rape and sexual abuse content and trafficked a minor. Pratt reportedly fled the United States for New Zealand and is currently wanted on a federal warrant.
But there are other individuals who should also be wanted by law enforcement — CEO Feras Antoon and COO David Tassillo of Mindgeek, the company that owns Pornhub.
You see, Pornhub is complicit in the trafficking of these women and minors and probably thousands more like them.

Pornhub is generating millions in advertising and membership revenue with 42 billion visits and 6 million videos uploaded per year. Yet it has no system in place to verify reliably the age or consent of those featured in the pornographic content it hosts and profits from.

In fact, all that is needed to upload pornography onto Pornhub is an email address. No government-issued ID is required, not even to become “verified” with its trusty blue checkmark that makes everything seem a-OK.

I know this, because I tried it.
It took me under 10 minutes to create a user account and upload blank test content to the site, which went live instantly. I could have then gone on to become Pornhub-verified, and all I would need to do is send a photo of myself holding a paper with my username. That’s it.

It is no surprise that Pornhub admitted to verifying the trafficked 15-year-old girl who was sexually abused in 58 videos on its site. The official Twitter account for Pornhub wrote in response to the breaking story that the 15-year-old girl had been a verified member. After quickly realizing it had just admitted to assisting in her being trafficked, the account deleted the tweets, but the evidence of the admission was cached and still exists.

One of the most-searched terms on Pornhub is “teen” pornography, in fact it has been a top search term on the site for years. The search will result in videos that are constantly being added faster than any individual could watch them. Many feature girls who look 13 years old at best — girls with braces, pigtails, flat chests, no makeup, extremely young faces, holding teddy bears and licking lollipops, all while being aggressively penetrated. A quick search for the word “teen” turns up titles such as “Young Girl Tricked,” “Innocent Brace Faced Tiny Teen F---ed,” “Tiny Petite Thai Teen,” “Teen Little Girl First Time,” on and on ad infinitum.

Pornhub has no reliable system in place to verify that those in the videos it hosts are not trafficked children being raped on film in order to line the pockets of its executives.
What all of this means is that at this very moment, there could be hundreds, if not thousands, of videos of underage sex trafficking victims on Pornhub. We already have evidence, and it is just the tip of the iceberg.

It’s time to shut down super-predator site Pornhub and hold the executives behind it accountable.

The Traffickinghub campaign is a non-religious, non-partisan effort to hold the largest porn website in the world accountable for enabling and profiting off of the mass sex trafficking and exploitation of women and minors. The campaign is supported by over 100 child protection and anti-trafficking organizations as well as experts on and survivors of commercial sexual exploitation.

My favorite part is this:
One of the most-searched terms on Pornhub is “teen” pornography, in fact it has been a top search term on the site for years. The search will result in videos that are constantly being added faster than any individual could watch them. Many feature girls who look 13 years old at best — girls with braces, pigtails, flat chests, no makeup, extremely young faces, holding teddy bears and licking lollipops, all while being aggressively penetrated. A quick search for the word “teen” turns up titles such as “Young Girl Tricked,” “Innocent Brace Faced Tiny Teen F---ed,” “Tiny Petite Thai Teen,” “Teen Little Girl First Time,” on and on ad infinitum.

:story: you cant close down pornhub because people have degenerate fetishes. Sex trafficking is one thing. Childporn is awful. But fetish content with people who look young is just appealing to the DDLG world and people with rape fantasy fetishes. Incest content is pretty popular too atm, don't see you crying over videos of daddy fucking little girl content that's everywhere on the internet rn (not even just on pornsites).
 
That reminds me when fucking Project Melody had to provide her driver's license to the site she uses as well to make sure the person wearing the motion tracking suit wasn't underage....or was it the VA? It's been a while.
Is that like Kizuna Ai or Hololive but for porn?
 
Shutting down internet porn just isn't possible anymore, and that's ignoring the obvious issues with restricting "artistic expression" and the first amendment related problems that causes. We're more likely to see prostitution legalized in the coming(lol more like cooming, amirite guiz!?)decades then we are to see online porn become illegal to produce or view.
 
Going after payment processors like this reeks of the whole "I didn't get you fired, I merely informed your employer about your behaviour, and also put it on social media for good measure" bad tactics shit.
On the other hand, the porn industry has shown itself to be utterly despicable, and worthy of all scorn thrown against it.

In the end, this wont do shit, since porn nowadays is ingrained in people from a young age and will only get worse. Scummy move not to use specific examples since those exist, but I'll applaud it anyway.

Is that like Kizuna Ai or Hololive but for porn?
Yes, but nowhere near as entertaining as Hololive.
 
So now that it’s porn getting the shaft, it’s an issue?
Call me a LOLbertarian, but I think that both porn and racism should be protected, and monetized, speech. If you want to do some retarded things, who am I to stop you?
Also, being able to give someone $20 for whatever you think is worth $20 is why crypto is so important to know about.
If you can send me, or some thot/nazi, money that no corporation or anything can mess with, that’s a good thing. I understand the crime aspect, but just because something might be used for crime doesn’t mean we should ban it, just look at the UK.
 
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