I am grossed out that Chloe took the time to make two posts to address her reputation potentially being smeared but has done fuck all to address the people concerned about the racism and cultural appropriation involved in the Nadia and Amira alters. Just shows where her interests are. Obviously the concerns of people of colour don't matter at all to her and clearly not at all to her cult who have just been brushing these people with really valid complaints off for like a week now.
Stop sperging about Twitter and this group chat thing. By this I mean dont bother posting "proof" unless it's actually proof. I'm not saying you cant discuss the issue at all, although I dont really see the point tbh because you cant prove it.
I am grossed out that Chloe took the time to make two posts to address her reputation potentially being smeared but has done fuck all to address the people concerned about the racism and cultural appropriation involved in the Nadia and Amira alters. Just shows where her interests are. Obviously the concerns of people of colour don't matter at all to her and clearly not at all to her cult who have just been brushing these people with really valid complaints off for like a week now.
To be fair concerns about whether some girl's fake multiple personalities are cultural appropriation are pretty fucking stupid and shouldn't warrant an explanation in a world that makes sense. Unfortunately this is clown world and I actually see how it's hypocritical that chloe hasn't addressed them
M&M and Entropy have not retracted their statements despite Ally speaking to them personally. I think they were waiting to drop DissociaDID. Honestly, if either of those two are reading this: it’s okay to distance yourself from a public figure you don’t get along with. Don’t pretend to be hunky dory with a person just for your audience’s sake. You both claimed to have learned a lesson after what happened with Nan, just speak up and share your concerns... or be dragged down again for staying silent.
It is obvious those two know something we don’t, just from seeing how they’ve responded to past situations regarding Chloe. I don’t expect them to speak on it, but like I said, it’d be better if they did. Is keeping a few subscribers really worth allowing someone you clearly know to manipulating and taking advantage of the community you’re a part of? That’s not erasing the stigma of DID. DID is often viewed as a malingered disorder by people who want money and attention. By allowing her to get away with this you’re worsening that stigma.
The skeptic group chat is piling together information in a google doc. It has nothing that isn’t already mentioned in this thread. Ally is taking a breather, but has mentioned speaking to someone who was treated awfully by Chloe in the past. It doesn’t seem to be much to go on right now, don’t expect anything super interesting because Ally hasn’t spoken too much about it since the other day. Basically, Chloe promised a video of Nadia apologizing, and then just deleted her tumblr to avoid it all. She gave the impression she just wanted people to stop questioning her, not to make amends.
This gem popped up in my recommended on Youtube — The Lycanthropy System. Another forgettable young person that has been particularly entranced by Chloe, but the cringe is too horrific not to share.
Apparently the reupload is because they cut out the part where they introduce their Nan subsystem and I am kicking myself for not archiving sooner — I want to hear their attempt at Jeremy’s accent so bad.
We get to meet Kyle, Nadia, Sally, and Jade. Chloe is absent, which I find particularly amusing.
Particularly interesting notes:
- Subsystems are alters with alters (????) The mental gymnastics to make this make sense is too much.
- If you listen to the cadence of “Kyle” and “Nadia” it’s so clearly parroted from repeated and ravenous viewing of Chloe’s content. Idol-worship taken to an extreme I didn’t think possible.
- The original video has maybe 150 views , but already has more dislikes than likes which I find telling. ETA: Damn, the video has now been made private. Curious if they are lurking on the thread or recieved negativity from the Chloe Detractors.
Mods, please move this to the general DID chat if it’s too off topic.
They didn't mention Chloe personally so retracting the statements would be like saying they only care about hate and bullying if Chloe's the one doing it.
I am grossed out that Chloe took the time to make two posts to address her reputation potentially being smeared but has done fuck all to address the people concerned about the racism and cultural appropriation involved in the Nadia and Amira alters. Just shows where her interests are. Obviously the concerns of people of colour don't matter at all to her and clearly not at all to her cult who have just been brushing these people with really valid complaints off for like a week now.
Now she has Echolalia as well? I swear to god, the list of her disorders is steadily growing. When has she ever exhibited symptoms of this? This would have been very noticeable in all her live streams or other collabs. Echolalia isn't something one can magically turn on and off. It can be pretty debilitating, actually, and is most often a symptom of more severe disorders like Autism or Tourettes. Most adults suffering from Echolalia have trouble holding a conversation at all since all they do is repeat what they just heard or what they remember and believe to be related to the current situation. This makes for pretty absurd and unusual behavior.
Now she has Echolalia as well? I swear to god, the list of her disorders is steadily growing. When has she ever exhibited symptoms of this? This would have been very noticeable in all her live streams or other collabs. Echolalia isn't something one can magically turn on and off. It can be pretty debilitating, actually, and is most often a symptom of more severe disorders like Autism or Tourettes. Most adults suffering from Echolalia have trouble holding a conversation at all since all they do is repeat what they just heard or what they remember and believe to be related to the current situation. This makes for pretty absurd and unusual behavior.
Honestly, I'd go out on a limb here and say echolalia isn't a disorder, but a survival mechanism from when humans were cavemen and speaking differently could mean getting beaten to death.
Copying someones speech pattern/melody is fucking normal.
That's not really what echolalia means, though. Echolalia is repeating words or sentences other people say. Copying accents, however, is interestingly quite a trend in people with BPD (subconsciously, they don't do it on purpose)
Honestly, I'd go out on a limb here and say echolalia isn't a disorder, but a survival mechanism from when humans were cavemen and speaking differently could mean getting beaten to death.
Copying someones speech pattern/melody is fucking normal.
I agree, that it's not an entire disorder, it is, however, an accepted symptom of other disorders. Echolalia is a completely ego-dystonic behavior which means that people are not doing it willingly. It's a subconscious behavior that often distresses people that exhibit this symptom. It is not people willingly copying a speech pattern or a way of talking, as this would be voluntary and by and large ego-syntonic.
According to the ICD-10 Echolalia is still part of the communication impairments. In the DSM4 it was considered to be part of the "stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language" but otherwise wasn't mentioned. In the recent DSM 5 they see it as part of the "restricted, repetitive patterns of behaviors, interests, or activities" that is a major symptom of Autism. It is also part of the symptoms for several other cognitive disorders.
Now she has Echolalia as well? I swear to god, the list of her disorders is steadily growing. When has she ever exhibited symptoms of this? This would have been very noticeable in all her live streams or other collabs. Echolalia isn't something one can magically turn on and off. It can be pretty debilitating, actually, and is most often a symptom of more severe disorders like Autism or Tourettes. Most adults suffering from Echolalia have trouble holding a conversation at all since all they do is repeat what they just heard or what they remember and believe to be related to the current situation. This makes for pretty absurd and unusual behavior.
I've just googled what echolalia is and that sounds nothing like what Chloe is trying to say she's got. The "quirk" of copying accents is more of an empathy thing than a disorder/illness. I do it all the time without realising; if I've just binged watched an American tv series I will start talking with an American accent, if I'm hanging out with friends with a different regional accent I will end up talking like them, it's just a thing. Similar to how a lot of people will (without realising) end up copying mannerisms and personality traits of people they spent a lot of time with.
She has definitely self-diagnosed that, wrongly. I reckon she thinks that the more illnesses she can claim that she suffers with, the more of the victim she sounds like and therefore the more sympathy she can get.
Maybe I’m just bias against Chloe, but her saying she has Echolalia seems like a shield. Like she can’t be criticized for something a disorder makes her unintentionally do. Also a call for pity because poor Chloe suffers from one more thing that makes her life all the harder
And picking up one’s environment’s accent is normal. Everyone unintentionally does it, it doesn’t make Chloe any more special.
It kinda sounds like the whole “I get sad sometimes, so I must have depression” bullshit
I reckon she thinks that the more illnesses she can claim that she suffers with, the more of the victim she sounds like and therefore the more sympathy she can get.
Totally agree, thought so as well. Let's see what fancy swanky syndrome will be next. Synesthesia? Foreign Accent Syndrome? Alice in Wonderland Syndrome? She still has a long list of symptoms to choose from and consequently interpret and demonstrate in the wrong way. Man, this shit makes me so damn tired.
Edit: Maybe it'll be Tourrettes. "I didn't mean to say -insert nasty thing she said- it was just my Tourettes speaking." At least that would give a plausible explanation for her fucken Echolalia. Giving you some ideas, Chloe.
I wonder where she even got echolalia from. I googled things like “copying accent” and the closest thing to echolalia was echopraxia. The other results were articles and Quora questions saying that it’s entirely normal for people to unconsciously mimic others’ accents when they spend time with them
I wonder where she even got echolalia from. I googled things like “copying accent” and the closest thing to echolalia was echopraxia. The other results were articles and Quora questions saying that it’s entirely normal for people to unconsciously mimic others’ accents when they spend time with them
She probably researched it about as much as she researches her other supposed disorders. It's a smidgen of factual information and a lot of fantasizing to fill in the boring gaps that no one on Youtube cares about but give other people the head scraties.
She mentions echopraxia in this video too (I believe), and echopraxia means repeating someone's movements, so if someone scratches their left hand, the other person will do that action too. Again, not at all similar to copying someone's accent, and if it was due to echolalia, she would only copy that accent while being with someone with said accent, not a week or month later.
(I hope that was understandable)
"Imitating Accents, movements to seem more trustworthy and safer"
At this point, I just want to strangle her. Someone seriously needs to teach her the difference between ego-syntonic and ego-dystonic disorders. She seems to have a lot of trouble grasping this concept.
