Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

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Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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I will not eat the bugs.
I will not live in the pod.
I will not wear the muzzle.
I will not defer my critical thinking to "authorative sources".
I will not give my country away to the third world swarm.
I will not eat them with a cod
I will not eat them in a pod.
I will not eat them here or there.
I will not eat bugs anywhere.
I do not like them, Thunberg-chan.
 
I always wonder how her fans don't notice how unnatural and sick she looks. I mean, even if you agree with all her beliefs, how can you not even NOTICE that something's seriously wrong with her when it comes to health and anatomy?

Because they don't care about her, and apparently nor does anyone else around her. She's just a puppet to be used.
 
Because politics and Celebrity Culture have merged. It ain't what you know or what you've done, it's your Brand that gets you the invites to the National Dialogue.

The Super-intersectionalism of the modern left , where politics, celebrity, activism, virtue signalling, commercialization and religion are all melded as one bankrupt monolith of "WOKENESS", ..... and allegiance to any one aspect also means allegiance to (if not rabid defense of) all others, .... was a mistake.

Its how you get pedo-defending green energy activists who are given bit cameo parts in feminist themed TV capeshit shows.

Or politicians paying hefty appearance fees to NGOs so autistic school kids can stand in front of them to fake-cry and spout canned-think-tank lines about how plastic straws need to be banned or the world will blow up in 3 years.....

Or sports journalists thinking it's stunning and brave to make exhaustive lists of what grocery store peppers can fit up their assholes to "own the nazis and transphobes"


It's all just so tiresome
 
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Yep. When net zero comes in this will be life full time, I bet. Plebs forced to queue and ration and justify their travel. Celebrities (ugh) jetting around everywhere and paying "carbon offsets" allowing them to.

i doubt that will work. Police is expensive, same goes for the army. who will get the plebs in line?

I will not eat the bugs.
I will not live in the pod.
I will not wear the muzzle.
I will not defer my critical thinking to "authorative sources".
I will not give my country away to the third world swarm.
 
I always wonder how her fans don't notice how unnatural and sick she looks. I mean, even if you agree with all her beliefs, how can you not even NOTICE that something's seriously wrong with her when it comes to health and anatomy?
Remember that the last decade was spent on subverting the ideal of beauty. If back then big tits and a sculpted face were considered mandatory for appeal, today being an over/under-weight ironing board with a goblin face (literal goblin, not you-know-what-chosen) means you are the ideal female figure.
 
Or sports journalists thinking it's stunning and brave to make exhaustive lists of what grocery store peppers can fit up their assholes to "own the nazis and transphobes"

Please tell me that's a joke, and it didn't actually happen. Please.

I will not eat them with a cod
I will not eat them in a pod.
I will not eat them here or there.
I will not eat bugs anywhere.
I do not like them, Thunberg-chan.

I will not eat bugs from a box
I will not feed them to a fox.
I will not eat them from a bag.
I will not eat them off a rag.
I will not become a bugman
I do not like them, Thunberg-chan.

Thing is, sometimes Greta seems to forget her own lines. I remember that a book came out about her in which her mother, Malena Ernman, claimed that she (Greta) could see carbon dioxide. Greta then went on twatter and wigged out about how this was a "fake news" article put out by evil, bad, bad, bad, and evil people. Unfortunately... her mother was the one who co-operated entirely in writing that book.

Personally I sometimes wonder if it's worth doing a "countdown until legal" site for Saint Greta just to cause autistic screeching.
 
I always wonder how her fans don't notice how unnatural and sick she looks. I mean, even if you agree with all her beliefs, how can you not even NOTICE that something's seriously wrong with her when it comes to health and anatomy?

Yes I can see she's an eternal loli and possibly has fetal alcohol syndrome. It amuses me to no end how much environment loli angers people so much by doing so little
 
I don't think she's been on yet.

Being in the future is hard work.

Either way, I'm sure it will be Greta sperging about her own dimensional merge. Sonichu Soros and Rosechu Gates economic, social and medical plans. Gretaville putting everyone in climate lockdowns, CNN clap like trained seals, headlines tomorrow about how if we can do it for a virus, we can do it for climate.
 
Yes I can see she's an eternal loli and possibly has fetal alcohol syndrome. It amuses me to no end how much environment loli angers people so much by doing so little
She goes on TV and says "How dare you". That's enough to anger sensible people. The fact that she's elevated to the position she is in is also very annoying.

Nobody wants to be lectured by a stupid kid, nevermind one with fetal alcohol syndrome and various other mental defects. Especially if the topic of the lecture is global fucking warming.
 
I always wonder how her fans don't notice how unnatural and sick she looks. I mean, even if you agree with all her beliefs, how can you not even NOTICE that something's seriously wrong with her when it comes to health and anatomy?

She reminds me of one of those 18 year olds that the parents chained to a bed their entire youth and malnourished, so they look like an old looking 10 year old. I guess the parents unchained her when they figured they had a use for her.
 
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