Times when you have felt genuinely sorry for Chris

[George Beorge]

I've felt sorry for Chris ever since the Tomgirl saga began, watching the descent into complete madness.

 

[taintmisbehavin]

Please know I’ m not trying to defend Chris and his gender fuckery with what I am about to say.


I just think Chris genuinely looked happy going out of the house in sassy teen girl outfits. dancing with drag queens. It is such a contrast to the broken, deranged bag lady we have now.

 

[GherkinRealness]

Please know I’ m not trying to defend Chris and his gender fuckery with what I am about to say.


I just think Chris genuinely looked happy going out of the house in sassy teen girl outfits. dancing with drag queens. It is such a contrast to the broken, deranged bag lady we have now.

There's nothing bad about that. He's in an environment that accepts him - that's NOT a computer screen or convention. He probably never really had a social place to go to where he felt accepted since the snyder years.

As much as Chris annoys me with his victimhood mentality (you gotta move on eventually), at the end of the day I do want him to be happy.

But preparing yourself for the future enables that happiness to flourish later on down the line, and Chris is going to have some very horrible years to come.

 

[Big Meaty Claws]

I feel bad for his whole fate in this world we live in. This is a man so far broken down from all sorts of unlucky chances in his life, that is he nothing more than a broken shell that is mentally unwell and pushed inside a bubble that even he can't leave. And the worst part is his abuser is with him every day. Barb.

I used to know a dude who had a mother like Barb. So self focused that she saw her own son as a simple tool to use and make herself feel better. I knew him from high school. The guy was unfocused, rude, rowdy, and really broken, but he was a friend. I went over to his place once, and it was like Chris's place. A hoards wonderland, full of useless shit, and almost nothing for the son. The father had ran off and she was the main thing. Keep in mind my friend was 17. And he always felt trapped due to how controlling the mother is.

Looking at Barb I feel that same thing. I look at all the shit she has done, and she is one of the worst things for Chris. Bob at least made attempts, but Barb pushed him down this well that he is at now. She shoved Chris so far down underground, that all he sees is dirt, worms, and his own self. any attempts to dig him up are but futile, and she even is still right there. Using her own son to make herself feel better, leeching off of him even as we speak till the day she finally fucking passes away.

And I think the saddest part is that Chris loves her so much, and yet she knows it, and gives no shit about him at all. Chris saw her as a caring mother, too struck with autism and her coddling him to the point where he couldn't even tell it was wrong. For him it was natural. For him it was safe.

The ideals of his Father who tried so hard were rubbed off of Barb, cause she had no love for anyone. No spark in her eyes, and she wants Chris this way, because she can leech off of him like the parasite she is. Bob wasn't perfect, but he tried, and he truly loved his son to push him so far in the right direction, and that says something.

To see him as the broken mess he is, and how he became it is so heartbreaking. He never had a shot at a normal life with how terrible of things all stacked towards him. And now we peek at that little window before it all fell down, you could see how hopeful he was. Then things took such a harsh turn that it shaped him into what he is.

I don't support everything Chris does, but I do support that Barb is the main reason why he is the way he is. Why his life is shaped up so harshly, and how no matter what he will never get help, because in his mind he is the safe one. the world is his oyster, and yet he has no interest to even open it up cause of Barb.

Everytime I hear or read about how abusive Barb was to Chris, I always remember my high school friend, and how broken he was cause of his own mother who did similar things she did to her own son. To push such a horrid need for yourself over your own child is such a horrible ideal, its on grounds of being hellish.

Complain if you want. But I always feel bad for him. Because I see a loss of happiness, hope, and potential in such a doomed soul.

 

[dankeybong]

Anytime he's not attacking other people or ignoring good advice people have gave him. It's a sad life.

 

[Dread First]

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I don't necessarily disagree with you on that front, but you're forgetting that a lot of the stupid shit Chris has done was legitimately his own damn fault. There certainly is an argument to be made that Barb is a toxic influence on her son's life, but there's an assload of shit he's done of his own free will. He voluntarily disclosed that he shits himself. He voluntarily made those creepy videos to "Ivy" where he basically just lets his malformed penis talk for him. He voluntarily drew and uploaded porn of his then-best friend.

Chris isn't some blameless autistic saint. His mom's a cunt but he's still a major lolcow for a reason.

 

[Lucuckzasander]

I would say Bob's death was the catalyst for alot of what we see in him now. So I would say that is one as well as the abuse that chris currently suffers under barb. I feel bad for him mostly for the things surrounding his life that werent in his control that helped lead to him becoming a 38 year old manchild such as his parents poor handling of his autism. However most of what chris faces now though and the negative things in his life have been mostly been self-inflicted so its hard to think of more recent things.

 

[TheRedBaron]

interesting topic. there's been a few times I've felt genuinely sorry for Chris, despite all the dumb and rude and gross and etc stuff hes done in the end he is another human. I personally think a few bits of trolling were a bit too far but that's always up for discussion (bluespike, Idea Guys etc.) I definitely felt very sorry for his house burning down, granted it was due to him not following safety / common sense but still its never deserving to have your house burnt down, I also will say I do sympathize with some of his social awkwardness as not everyone is good at social interactions and relationships and etc, though sympathy splits off there with his decisions on what to do with those situations. feeling sorry for Chris is a mixed bag at times, there's times it seems like it should be as he didn't know what he was doing but then there's always the counter argument of people giving him good suggestions on those situations that he generally ignores.


if anything the one I really felt sorry for was Bob, he did try his best but age was not on his side with raising a young child and then he definitely wasn't prepared for the mess that was created

 

[yoursavior]

Recency bias, but that period of time from around 2010 where he tried to cut himself off the internet and attempted to have a normal life. Making all those videos for Jackie where he couldn't even do a single pull up, the weird bra phase, begging and wanting a high school reunion, etc.. It was truly Chris at his lowest point back in the old house. Maybe the funniest video we got out of that time was Song for Jackie, and the rest were all just plain sad to watch.

 

[silentium]

Bluespike
Idea guys

All the stuff that led to extortion actually

 

[Chan the Wizard]

The only time I feel bad for Chris is when outside forces are manipulating him. Everything else is just nature taking its course.

 

[Kumomo]

Honestly, the whole Bluespike situation. I don't even know who was more autistic, Chris or Bluespike himself. Or even the guys pushing Bluespike to do it (But I believe a portion of them was trying to make him step down from that situation.)

I do wonder what Bluespike think about it now, since he aged.

 

[Argh My Cigar]

The only time I feel bad for Chris is when outside forces are manipulating him. Everything else is just nature taking its course.

Yeaaaah when Twin Falling Towers was uploaded I knew something had to be up. Chris is dumb and lacks tact, but using WTC in that way against the trolls seemed waaaaay too contrived.

 

[silentium]

The only time I feel bad for Chris is when outside forces are manipulating him. Everything else is just nature taking its course.

Honestly though, basically everything in his life (at least 2008-2014) was almost exclusively resulting from manipulation and trolling. While his transition to seeing himself as a female might have come later regardless, it was without a doubt HUGELY influenced by trolls.

 

[subwaymonkeyhour]

Merried Senior Trolls. Fuckin' genius

Pretty much everything post-Bob dying.
Don't get me wrong, there are still some good cocks these days and I am certain he is as much of a buffoonish oaf as ever, but the trolling at this point doesn't feel the same as the good old days.
He's gone from the anachronistic, naive, mildly autistic Clown With Character to just another mentally ill, borderline streetwalker.
I feel sorry for the tweakers, fuckups and mentals that hang around the downtown of my city, while 100% realising they cannot (and probably should not) be helped. Chris, in my eyes, is rapidly approaching this class of humanity.
Cutting his vag out with a blade, having merried seinor trolls step in to essentially stop him from dying/being fleeced out of thousands. What the fuck man.
Someone like Jahans is more like that virgin (no pun intended) innocent lolcow, but I just don't know anymore.

 

[Idonttrustlikethat]

Only when his dad died, but then i can't remember how he reacted.

 

[FeedMyHabits]

NGL. This is a mentally ill adult child and I feel really sorry for what the internet has done to them. I wasn't around for the wild times of it all, but seeing everything and what's going on this looks like a case study for just how bad the internet can make you when you fall in as absolutely as they did.

 

[Zooted]

Learning social skills is really hard already, worse for autistic people, and even more when the people around you aren’t going to leave if you’re awful to be around, because they’re being paid. As well intentioned as Bob was trying to give Chris friends, it stunted him awfully.
Any chance of Chris ever having real friends was thrown away when he couldn’t go to the game place anymore. Outside of there every person that showed interest in him was a fake made up by trolls, and when people in the real world started knowing who he was I think he lost trust that there was anyone who wasn’t out to get him. Despite it being his own fault, I think I’ve felt bad for Chris on and off since Snyder banned him. It’s interesting to see how off the walls he can go sometimes and what crazy shit is next, but he’s still a person and a very interesting one at that. The worst I’ve ever felt for him is when he got the care package after the fire, and was so jaded and disillusioned that he couldn’t see a caring act as anything but another attempt to somehow trick him

 

[Totally Awesome]

I don't necessarily disagree with you on that front, but you're forgetting that a lot of the stupid shit Chris has done was legitimately his own damn fault. There certainly is an argument to be made that Barb is a toxic influence on her son's life, but there's an assload of shit he's done of his own free will. He voluntarily disclosed that he shits himself. He voluntarily made those creepy videos to "Ivy" where he basically just lets his malformed penis talk for him. He voluntarily drew and uploaded porn of his then-best friend.

Chris isn't some blameless autistic saint. His mom's a cunt but he's still a major lolcow for a reason.

Bob and Barb both loved Chris and would never intentionally manipulate or hurt him, but they were terrible parents. They didn't give him the mental help he needed for his autism, didn't teach him life skills, and didn't teach him how to properly interact with other people. They did teach him how to be hateful to other people though.

 

[Hapless Mailman]

Bob and Barb both loved Chris and would never intentionally manipulate or hurt him, but they were terrible parents. They didn't give him the mental help he needed for his autism, didn't teach him life skills, and didn't teach him how to properly interact with other people. They did teach him how to be hateful to other people though.

I mostly agree, but not really with the manipulation bit. I'm just going by calls and Chris's accounts, but imo Barb had a strong penchant for deliberate manipulation; not just manipulating Chris, but Bob, too. How sincere she was, I've got no clue. But she's badgerly and apparently okay with using emotional blackmail to achieve her desperate ends, whatever her reasons may be.

The call where you can overhear her essentially pitting Chris against his father was really uncomfortable for me to listen to. It's right up there with the Bluespike Butt-stuffing call, and my gut says if we heard it happen once or twice, it's probably happened dozens of times behind closed doors.

Your average boy at that age will do the unthinkable to leverage their own status with older kids and to seem cool and worthy of respect, even kids you wouldn’t expect that sort of behavior from.

Yeah, it really was a bad group dynamic thing. Bluespike was just a fetus. But I'm not convinced that it's usual for most kids to take that much casual pleasure out of a shitfest like that -- peer pressure or not. All parties involved were basically retarded.