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No chance. He does seem to be working more but he's too addicted to acting stupid on social media to get his frog book out on time.
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No chance. He does seem to be working more but he's too addicted to acting stupid on social media to get his frog book out on time.
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I respectfully disagree. The 4th-wall demolishing meta-plot is simply the backdrop for the story. If you don't get hung up on it, it's simply very similar to a road trip adventure story.
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I seriously doubt there is a dedicated KS audience for indie comics. There is one for tabletop games and gadgets as far as I know, but I do believe that in KS comics you bring your own audience. IGG sort of has an ecosystem of its own though, thanks to CGers there. SGM's audience would go to either site.
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You have just described literally the exact opposite of reality.
The audience for Kickstarter comics is fucking tiny. Just look at their active projects for proof, once you get past the top 30 you're in the 4 figures. Indiegogo's is much larger even if you take out all of EVS' projects. Kickstarter might have been the place to go 4-5 years ago but that's ancient history.
But it's funny that you're Stanning for a platform that damaged itself by forcing creators to pass purity tests, because EVS is against it.
Yes this is correct but he has to make the dumb argument because of an agenda.
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I actually can’t blame him at all for choosing IGG, as I have absolutely no doubt that him starting his campaign right after Cyberfrog 2 ended was completely intentional. Instead of being the largest fish in a big pond, he’s the largest fish in a substantially smaller pond full of fish that see him being in said pond as some massive political win. Plus, moving away from the allegory, he has a pretty damn great chance to be the most-funded comic of all time on the site, something that would be quite harder to do on KS.
From what I’ve seen recently, KS has a far more consistent success rate, but also far, far smaller projects.
In other words, IGG has more money going to a smaller amount of campaigns, while KS certainly has less overall but what’s there is distributed more evenly.
I’d attribute it to IGG’s genuinely awful sorting options that make it an outright pain to browse for smaller projects, unlike KS’s simple chronological lists.
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Perception and reality being what they are I was trusting in Crescent Fresh's numbers. If you have data that contradicts him I'd be happy to change my mind.
As it is if a creator is about twice as likely to succeed on KS over IGG, as those numbers indicate, one would think there's a larger audience to tap into in the larger platform. If the ecosystem was more healthy on IGG I'd expect IGG projects to fund more than 44% of the time compared to KS at 84% funded
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He'll do better on IGG, but I wish I could have helped him with this. He priced his original art too low, at $500 per page and 50 pages, he sold out immediately. $25,000 bought the entire book, and that's almost half of what he's earned so far.
The original chapter break pages are good, for $5000 each...he's sold one and he's got another $15K coming when he sells the other three. All of his other high priced tiers are sold thru. When he sells what remains, he'll be stuck at under $100K.
I'd scrap the digital for $10 and the $1 thank you tier. Those are Kickstarter garbage tiers.
We'll see how it goes, but he's going to hit $100K and drag a bit.
Also, launching with the full 60 days right out of the gate is another mistake.
The original chapter break pages are good, for $5000 each...he's sold one and he's got another $15K coming when he sells the other three. All of his other high priced tiers are sold thru. When he sells what remains, he'll be stuck at under $100K.
I'd scrap the digital for $10 and the $1 thank you tier. Those are Kickstarter garbage tiers.
We'll see how it goes, but he's going to hit $100K and drag a bit.
Also, launching with the full 60 days right out of the gate is another mistake.
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Shots potentially fired? I wonder who SGM is referring to in this tweet.
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Also an endorsement from Scott Synder.
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Also an endorsement from Scott Synder.
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Shots potentially fired? I wonder who SGM is referring to in this tweet.
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Maybe he's taking a shot at me! But it seems like it's the entire ComicsGate model that he's thumbing his nose at.
Also, yes, he's also got the mainstream comics media promoting him! This is going to be fun to watch!
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I could be wrong but I think SGM is more concerned with getting the maximum number of backers/dollars than he's concerned with being a bigger fish or making a political statement.
That said perhaps you're right and being a big fish in a small pond could be a smart play if he can only grow so big. I think he could be huge though. He'll be a sturgeon at IGG (the biggest fish possible in that pond) but I think he could have been an orca on KS which is great even if there are much bigger whales swimming in that pond.
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Shots potentially fired? I wonder who SGM is referring to in this tweet.
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Right. The question he was responding to really only made mention of crowdfunding, not any particular campaigns or creators. The “Youtube and the live chats” comment came completely out of nowhere.
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Tons of blue haired whales on KS.
I think SGM expressed his wished succinctly. He wants $500,000-$1,000,000 for this comic book and he wants to own his IP.
There aren't any comics being funded on KS that are bigger than ours. IGG is the place for comics right now.
I think SGM expressed his wished succinctly. He wants $500,000-$1,000,000 for this comic book and he wants to own his IP.
There aren't any comics being funded on KS that are bigger than ours. IGG is the place for comics right now.
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War Campaign only goes after fellow comicsgaters and those adjacent.
Sean Gordon Murphy is not an artist, he's a coward and a bootlicking cuck, you can guarantee his work won't contain anything objectionable to SJW types. He's already caved before. He's also indirectly labeled Christianity as a hate movement, I wonder how many of his backers are aware? He's too much of a simp to address any of that.
Until I see proof otherwise, I'm going to assume this is just another milquetoast Marxist-friendly book being marketed to normies. Even the character lineup looks derivative.
- Ambiguously gendered Gunfighter
- Race-swapped Kate Beckinsale from Underworld
- The part of Rocket Raccoon being played by Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes
- Battle Beast from Invincible rip-off or Guin Saga rip-off
- Cultural appropriation Samurai (how long will that last) looks like he made him an elf to affirm his race as "anime"
- Bad guy is the main character from inFAMOUS on Playstation, but every electricity type is pretty much the same.
My slavic bootlegger pal Dimitri says "You are welcome, comrade."
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Cultural appropriation Samurai annoys me most of all. It's an idea that's been done better by Platinum games. "JetStream Sam" Rodrigues in Revengeance. They weren't afraid to make a samurai type that was human and wasn't japanese, and they went balls-to the wall making him memorable. He's also got a cybernetic arm, and he utilizes a rifle receiver on his scabbard for sword draws.
SGM's best work was Tokyo Ghost. He should have gotten together with the writer Rick Remender and done a sequel to that. (Though I think the colorist may have done the heavy lifting)
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Here’s an update on those numbers now that Frog’s book and its parody are out of the way:
Kickstarter has 30 comics projects ending in the next week. Out of those, 23 are already funded, with two of the remaining seven past the three-quarters-funding mark, for a total percentage of 77-80%.
IGG has 11 comics projects ending in the next week. Out of those, four are already funded, with one of the remaining seven past the three-quarters-funding mark, for a total percentage of 36%-45%.
Things are really not looking good for IGG if you’re a smaller creator.
Also, for those wondering how I’m calculating these numbers, I’m just looking at KS’s “Ending Soon” tab for anything with 6 days or less remaining, and comparing that to IGG’s own “Ending Soon” sort that shows all projects ending in that same span of time.
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To get a physical copy of SGM's new book is 30 bucks.
Waaaaay too much for 100 pgs. The indiegogo route for former comic industry pros is lucrative, but it's too much for my wallet. 30 bucks will buy you a lot more entertainment than a comic book. 10 -15 bucks at most, but not 25, definitely not 30 even with a great artist.
Comics have too much of a barrier to entry anymore. Better entertainment elsewhere.
Waaaaay too much for 100 pgs. The indiegogo route for former comic industry pros is lucrative, but it's too much for my wallet. 30 bucks will buy you a lot more entertainment than a comic book. 10 -15 bucks at most, but not 25, definitely not 30 even with a great artist.
Comics have too much of a barrier to entry anymore. Better entertainment elsewhere.
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+$15 for shipping, so $45 bucks all told.
Doug TenNapel is charging $16 for shipping the hardcover 160pg Bigfoot Bill 2. Undercharging for fulfillment seems to be what kills the smaller campaigns. Even if 25-30 for a graphic novel is somewhat reasonable, the 10-20 dollar range for shipping is far outclassed by any product on Amazon or Barnes and Noble with their FREE shipping.
Doug TenNapel is charging $16 for shipping the hardcover 160pg Bigfoot Bill 2. Undercharging for fulfillment seems to be what kills the smaller campaigns. Even if 25-30 for a graphic novel is somewhat reasonable, the 10-20 dollar range for shipping is far outclassed by any product on Amazon or Barnes and Noble with their FREE shipping.
And his assistant is apparently handling all the administrative stuff, which kind of kills the whole " I'm participating directly in the efforts of some ragtag creator." Sean seems like a nice enough guy but he really is a natural cuck. If you watch his videos it just kind of comes out of him and it's really sad to hear. I think that is just one of the reasons his campaign is going to do less than he's anticipating.
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Don'r know if it's Farm-worthy news, but Doug T is tweeting that he's beaten cancer. So some good news amid all the doom & gloom.
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That's great news.
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The only thing wrong with that statement is that Jon DelArroz is, in fact, a rat himself.