Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

Another mother of a kid with rhizomelic chondrodysplasis punctata. This one writes a letter to the doctor who had the audacity to suggest hospice for what is usually a fatal diagnosis.

This may be the shittiest and most obnoxious thing these nasty ass tard moms do. It was when I realized Gwen Hartley wasn't just misguided, but was pretty much a vile cunt on top of that.
 
Start by narrowing down where the most inbreeding is and you'll find your answer.
Have you guys ever heard of the FLDS group? They're this weird polygamist cult of fundie Mormons who worship this imprisoned pedophile who they think is the new Jesus. Anyway, they all lived in the same town before it got raided a few years ago, and they also practice polygamy. Basically people were marrying their cousins and uncles for generations on end. As a result, this rare condition called Fumarase deficiency is unusually common in the cult.


Honestly if you're bored and looking for a rabbit hole to jump down, do some reading on FLDS. The leader is serving life sentences for raping a preteen and recording it. He would force his shit-load of wives to have lesbian orgies while he watched, and if you're in the cult, you have to hold your wife's hand while a designated "seed-bearer" rapes her. That shit is just the beginning of it.
 
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This is a first for me - seeing a special needs fundie mama using her Instagram fame to promote a Kellogg’s product.

The child lying in the infant chair is six years old. Non-verbal, barely conscious in the majority of photos she posts. Has a lethal form of dwarfism: rhizomelic chondrodysplasia punctata.View attachment 1292540


The funny thing about her is the endlessly sunny, positive way she writes about him. I mean, whatever gets you through the day I guess, but for the longest time I assumed he was of average intelligence and able to speak. But no. He’s severely mentally impaired, sleeps most of the time, suffers from seizures and is constantly in hospital with respiratory issues. He has enough awareness to smile but that’s about it.

I guess it leaves her with a lot of time to make her home look like Target catalog page.

Is that like her home for real or did Kellogg send her someplace for a staged photo? She’s even made sure she’s wearing the “color pop” in her brutally muted hued home for that perfect online ad aesthetic. (The kid usually gets to wear color pop clothes to make them the focus of a photo but when they look like that I guess mom gets to be the focus.)

If the kid basic stares at the ceiling all day I guess that means she can focus all her energy on making her house look like a Joanna Gaines marketing campaign ad. No kid is going to mess up all that eggshell color upholstered furniture or wipe his food covered face on her dining table throw cushions.

This says the parents had a prenatal diagnosis with Jordyn, the younger one.

Wait, this is weird. From that link it lists the surgeries she has had, most of which are very common (no big deal) or elective in nature. Unlike many potato or tard kids who have tons of major surgeries to ensure their survival.

Bit the thing that startled me was it states she wore contacts?? For years???? Huh? How do you cram contacts into the eyes, and take them out, of a disabled child who has seizures regularly and why the hell would they have contacts anyway??

I can’t see how wouldn‘t be a lot safer to use.

Normal brained adults can deal with crappy shit happening due to wearing contacts. I can’t wrap my head around using them on a child, much less a retarded and disabled child with seizures. Is there something I’m missing? It says she had cataract surgery, which is weird for a young child, but idk maybe it’s an issue with her condition. However I’ve never heard of contacts being used on eyes that have cataracts. Seems like contacts could make the issue a lot worse.

(Sorry for double post. What was supposed to be an edit turned into a post thanks to my phone.)
 
I don't think it's easy to detect in utero because it's so rare. All they can usually tell you is that the baby is measuring small. So I don't blame the parents for carrying to term because they don't know what is in store for their poor child. I do have a problem with all the heroic treatments some parents put their "warriors" through.

Actually I think it’s quite easy to detect the most severe forms of dwarfism in utero because the baby’s skeleton is so very abnormal. The exact type might not be able to be diagnosed without genetic testing, but I think it’s easy enough to distinguish between severe skeletal dysplasia incompatiable with life vs. something like achondroplasia.

Anyway, Jude’s parents knew he had a severe form of skeletal dysplasia but not that it was rhizo. He’s considered a long term survivor to have lived past the age of five.
 
Honestly if you're bored and looking for a rabbit hole to jump down, do some reading on FLDS. The leader is serving life sentences for raping a preteen and recording it. He would force his shit-load of wives to have lesbian orgies while he watched, and if you're in the cult, you have to hold your wife's hand while a designated "seed-bearer" rapes her. That shit is just the beginning of it
A lot of the fundamentalist Mormon groups like the FLDS and the Kingston Group have major problems with inbreeding and the recessive disorders that come with them. I believe that Short Creek, home to the FLDS, has a creepy little baby cemetery that was mentioned in one of the books by an escappee. Maybe "the Witness wore red"? Idr. But that one had the transcripts from when Warren Jeff's raped his 12 year old child bride in their compound in Texas. Utterly chilling.
 
Actually I think it’s quite easy to detect the most severe forms of dwarfism in utero because the baby’s skeleton is so very abnormal. The exact type might not be able to be diagnosed without genetic testing, but I think it’s easy enough to distinguish between severe skeletal dysplasia incompatiable with life vs. something like achondroplasia.

Anyway, Jude’s parents knew he had a severe form of skeletal dysplasia but not that it was rhizo. He’s considered a long term survivor to have lived past the age of five.

Thing is, if they do see anything that looks like rhizo, they're going to test for what precisely it is. The one case I posted didnt seem to know during pregnancy and, judging by the kids upper arm bones, she lucked out by getting a mild case.

(Also, achondroplasia is autosomal dominant, so chances are one of the parents family's already knows they have it, whereas these ones are fatal most of the time and thus dont get passed on. Even more reason to test the fetus if you see anything looking like these kinds of dwarfism.)

The parents can also refuse testing, but all the more reason to hate these fucks who know something bad is up with the fetus but carry it to term anyway.
 
There’s no way to explain how I know this without PLing all over the place, but you’re correct.
Personally I'm ok with you PLing on that subject, weird fundie cults are fascinating and as long as it relates to them popping out fucked up potatoes it's on topic for the thread.

I also had a thought, does the FLDS and its ilk go to extraordinary measures to try and keep hopeless cases alive like other fundies (i.e. Jaxon's parents forcing healthcare workers to give him blood transfusions)? Or do they actually let them pass naturally?
 
Personally I'm ok with you PLing on that subject, weird fundie cults are fascinating and as long as it relates to them popping out fucked up potatoes it's on topic for the thread.

I also had a thought, does the FLDS and its ilk go to extraordinary measures to try and keep hopeless cases alive like other fundies (i.e. Jaxon's parents forcing healthcare workers to give him blood transfusions)? Or do they actually let them pass naturally?
From what I’ve seen they prefer to involve medical science as little as possible. They don’t really want anyone sniffing around their communities, and that includes doctors. They have their own medical care, but that usually doesn’t include specialists, so the fucked up kids are kind of on their own.

ETA: now that I think about it I’ve never seen a profoundly disabled older FLDS kid. They wouldn’t be too useful to the community anyway since they can’t keep up a home or get married if they’re girls or support and provide for a family/hold the priesthood and become church leaders if they were boys.
 
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From what I’ve seen they prefer to involve medical science as little as possible. They don’t really want anyone sniffing around their communities, and that includes doctors. They have their own medical care, but that usually doesn’t include specialists, so the fucked up kids are kind of on their own.

ETA: now that I think about it I’ve never seen a profoundly disabled older FLDS kid. They wouldn’t be too useful to the community anyway since they can’t keep up a home or get married if they’re girls or support and provide for a family/hold the priesthood and become church leaders if they were boys.
From a practical standpoint disabled kids would be a big burden in their communities, but FDLS like to ”bleed the beast” (ie gimme dats) and most second and third wives (and their kids) collect as much welfare benefits as possible. A disabled kid would get them significant SSI benefits and ofc the care would fall on the women and older girls in the family.

But even with extra money I don’t think they would trust the outside medical professionals to provide the care needed to extend the life of potato kids. They certainly don’t want scrutiny of their households which having home health aides and others might bring with them for the additional services needed to keep these kids alive for years.
 
Their communities are really isolated so specialized care and dedicated nurses would have to travel a bit to reach them. As is they barely have any outsiders in their communities anyways.

I am curious as to what they would do with older tards and potatoes. Since men are required to have multiple wives they regularly kick out boys from their cults in order to have enough girls to "go around". And a girl that can't produce more cult members would be useless to the cause. I have a feeling they don't cry too hard when their genetic failures inevitably kick the bucket.
 
Their communities are really isolated so specialized care and dedicated nurses would have to travel a bit to reach them. As is they barely have any outsiders in their communities anyways.

I am curious as to what they would do with older tards and potatoes. Since men are required to have multiple wives they regularly kick out boys from their cults in order to have enough girls to "go around". And a girl that can't produce more cult members would be useless to the cause. I have a feeling they don't cry too hard when their genetic failures inevitably kick the bucket.
I’m sure it’s just viewed as part of Heavenly Father’s plan or whatever.
 

lord jesus just kill me right fuckin now if any of my future or current children have autism, or really any life altering disability. i could not handle this kind of shit.... i at first thought this mom was extreme but i could absolutely not be any nicer to this overgrown idiot. i would have given her up to an orphanage years ago. especially once the rere strength kicks in and they outgrow u and become physically abusive. byeeee
 

lord jesus just kill me right fuckin now if any of my future or current children have autism, or really any life altering disability. i could not handle this kind of shit.... i at first thought this mom was extreme but i could absolutely not be any nicer to this overgrown idiot. i would have given her up to an orphanage years ago. especially once the rere strength kicks in and they outgrow u and become physically abusive. byeeee

The mom doesn't sound extreme at all, her kid is throwing a tantrum and the way she is talking to her it sounds like her daughter's mental age is younger than 19, but she normally definitely knows better and is way better behaved.

The mom is not screaming, she is trying to reason with her, and is trying to comfort her and tell her she is beautiful.

She was also able to pick out why her daughter was having a tantrum and that it wasn't just the surface issue of no slurpees. That obviously shows she pays attention and cares about her daughter.

I don't think threatening to make her walk home is that extreme either, even if she followed through, the kid's probably mentally old enough to take care of herself on a short walk home (and loud and bite-y enough to be a problem for anyone who tries to do anything to her).

That mom is doing a good job imo and she has a lot of patience. She didn't snap that entire time, she just went into a Stoic mode and went "welp we're gonna ride this out til its safe for me to drive again".

I want kids but I'm honestly scared of having a kid with a disability this severe or worse.

Unrelated but I wonder if any of you medical spergers out there would be interested in this thread on fake beauty influencer Lillee Jean and her batshit crazy mom Laur Truman. Common consensus seems to be Lillee has undiagnosed Williams Syndrome. We've been over it a bit already but if there is more evidence nobody else has brought up before, or it could be something else, I for one would be interested in knowing.

Thread is here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/laur-trueman-rvt01.59219/
 
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Unrelated but I wonder if any of you medical spergers out there would be interested in this thread on fake beauty influencer Lillee Jean and her batshit crazy mom Laur Truman. Common consensus seems to be Lillee has undiagnosed Williams Syndrome. We've been over it a bit already but if there is more evidence nobody else has brought up before, or it could be something else, I for one would be interested in knowing.

Thread is here:

With a name spelled as re.tarded as that, you can just tell that the family is unadulterated white trash (why these kinds of folk spell common names in the most stupid way possible is beyond me, any kiwis that have been around white trash for a long time please tell me).

Glad to see we got another kailyn-esque tard cow.
 
Williams syndrome is interesting. It causes facial abnormalities that make people with it all look like relatives.
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The mom doesn't sound extreme at all, her kid is throwing a tantrum and the way she is talking to her it sounds like her daughter's mental age is younger than 19, but she normally definitely knows better and is way better behaved.

The mom is not screaming, she is trying to reason with her, and is trying to comfort her and tell her she is beautiful.

She was also able to pick out why her daughter was having a tantrum and that it wasn't just the surface issue of no slurpees. That obviously shows she pays attention and cares about her daughter.

I don't think threatening to make her walk home is that extreme either, even if she followed through, the kid's probably mentally old enough to take care of herself on a short walk home (and loud and bite-y enough to be a problem for anyone who tries to do anything to her).

That mom is doing a good job imo and she has a lot of patience. She didn't snap that entire time, she just went into a Stoic mode and went "welp we're gonna ride this out til its safe for me to drive again".

I want kids but I'm honestly scared of having a kid with a disability this severe or worse.

I've made no secret I have a family member with severe Autism. This mom is doing a good job and the daughter honestly isn't that extreme. I've seen kids kick out windows over a Happy Meal (though thankfully, not my family member. They're pretty chill and if they do have a meltdown, he isn't destructive or harmful to himself or anyone else). The girl may be nineteen, but mentally & emotionally, she isn't.

That being said, I try not to judge people who say "I could never live like this" because that's fair. It isn't a life for everyone. To a lot of people, living with a severely disabled child is terrifying. But I would only ask that you try not to judge the parents who are doing the best they can for themselves, their families and their child.

And I understand being terrified of having children with disabilities. That's why I've made the choice not to have kids. Not only would I be considered a geriatric pregnancy, but since I have a close family member with Autism, the chances of my having one increases, due to family history and age.
 

lord jesus just kill me right fuckin now if any of my future or current children have autism, or really any life altering disability. i could not handle this kind of shit.... i at first thought this mom was extreme but i could absolutely not be any nicer to this overgrown idiot. i would have given her up to an orphanage years ago. especially once the rere strength kicks in and they outgrow u and become physically abusive. byeeee
Assimilate, mate. You seem to be missing the point of this thread.

It's all fine and well if you want to point and laugh at tards because you're fucking exceptional yourself.
But no one here cares about your personal thoughts on hypothetical autist children of yours being thrown into an institution because you're too weak.

The video you shared was IMO a great example of parenting an autistic adult. The mother identified the daughter's trigger, validated her feelings, reinforced natural consequences and the positive aspects of their trip despite her loss of one part.

I have strong suspicions you are under the age of 18.
 
Williams syndrome is interesting. It causes facial abnormalities that make people with it all look like relatives.
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Ive seen that pic in Lillee's thread and fyi, we did go there :) She looked exactly like the phenotype when she was younger but at age 19 I don't see it anymore. My main problem with the theory is she looks more like her mom than she does other adults with Williams syndrome. Like she doesn't exactly look *normal*, but to me she looks normal-adjacent, especially if you can't see her teeth.

I've made no secret I have a family member with severe Autism. This mom is doing a good job and the daughter honestly isn't that extreme. I've seen kids kick out windows over a Happy Meal (though thankfully, not my family member. They're pretty chill and if they do have a meltdown, he isn't destructive or harmful to himself or anyone else). The girl may be nineteen, but mentally & emotionally, she isn't.

That being said, I try not to judge people who say "I could never live like this" because that's fair. It isn't a life for everyone. To a lot of people, living with a severely disabled child is terrifying. But I would only ask that you try not to judge the parents who are doing the best they can for themselves, their families and their child.

And I understand being terrified of having children with disabilities. That's why I've made the choice not to have kids. Not only would I be considered a geriatric pregnancy, but since I have a close family member with Autism, the chances of my having one increases, due to family history and age.

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I think very few people here if any judge the families who are actually trying to do the best for their kid. Just look at the general consensus on McKayla's family. It's just that very few of the people in this thread are trying to do their best for the child, or if they are, they are incredibly delusional about the quality of life their child can achieve. Kind of a self-selecting thing really as this thread is about the delusional and/or attention-seeking ones.

I believe if I were to get pregnant and discovered before giving birth that my child was going to be profoundly disabled, it would be my duty to that child to abort. I have a friend who recently had an abortion because she had been told she could never get pregnant even if she tried, and had been doing drugs and drinking heavily the entire time she was pregnant (about 2 months). She knew she had likely already completely fucked up any chance her baby had at a normal healthy life, and that she could not give him or her the quality of life he or she deserved going forward. She was devastated that she had been given something only to have to lose it again, and felt incredibly guilty that she had been the sole cause of this, but she believed it was her duty to abort.

Despite this I understand that some people have the exact opposite view, and they believe it is their duty to their child not to abort but to give birth, give life, and try to make that child as comfortable and happy as they can. To them, a life is a life and they could not live with themselves if they were to have an abortion. I can't fault that. I don't think either viewpoint is morally wrong, just two different responses to a complex ethical question. I am sure at least some other people in this thread agree. Only a complete asshole would disagree with trying to make any child comfortable and happy.

The problem comes when that family decides to have the child in order to try and get fame or money (or decides this after initially giving birth for more altruistic reasons), says things about the child that reveal an incredibly horrifically twisted set of priorities, or selfishly forces other children to be consistently exposed to a child who is in effect, a living zombie, a brain-dead grotesque husk who looks like nothing so much as a corpse, in order to further their own delusion that their child has any sentience anymore. That's just nightmare fuel.

Also I'm sorry you had to make that decision, it must have been hard.

Edit: just realised I didn't link to Laur and Lillee Jean's thread properly, edited original post and here is the link again if interested.

 
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