Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Stoneheart]

And ''daily bombings''?
There are those that care about occasional (but still worrying) bombings in criminal circles. I, for one, do.

If i look into the statistics, Sweden had a bomb going of more than once a day this year. thats something new since the grenade supply from the balkan has frozen up.

 

[coolkille]

If i look into the statistics, Sweden had a bomb going of more than once a day this year. thats something new since the grenade supply from the balkan has frozen up.

I would like for you to find those stats.

This Wikipedia article tallying them up is the best I can find, honestly. For this year, mind you.
You can also see some graphs on the top of the page, but the highest curve isn't just grenades and/or big detonations, but also bangers and items found undetonated, afaik. It's divided into 4 categories. Fuck it, off-topic.

 

[JosephStalin]

We will be lucky to see this crap in Los Angeles end without rioting. LA had six or seven major riots last century. Doesn't take much, in the right place, to start one. Now the long, hot summer is coming up.

Garcetti and Pelosi look more foolish all the time. Garcetti's idiocy will ensure no chance to be President.

Note that in the article below Pelosi supports extending the stay-at-home order for Los Angeles County for 3 months, and LA Mayor Garcetti extended the lockdown until August and said that beaches will reopen for exercise and active recreation, but only on wet sand. People will not be allowed to touch or sunbathe on dry sand. Are you kidding me? That's Whitmer-level stupidity.

It is already apparent that the one-size-fits-all system of state house arrests is one of the worst things ever done in our country. This didn't have to happen. Could have been done rationally. Instead it quickly turned political. Anger and pushbacks on all fronts grow daily. Worst of all, figure the odds of people in general even believing what local/county/state government and law enforcement say next time there's a calamity, much less trusting them. The price being paid for this foolishness is just starting to be paid.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/power-hungry-mayor-garcetti-says-la-beaches-will-open-exercise-wet-sand-no-sunbathing-dry-sand-video/

https://archive.vn/OFHVW

Added: Notable. Up to now have never seen people publicly saying they no longer consent to being governed. Seriously, lift the house arrests before they are shoved up your asses.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/17/we-dont-consent-watters-warns-lawmakers-of-boiling-point-you-cant-trample-our-rights-with-no-end-in-sight-921893?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get+Response&utm_term=EMAIL

https://archive.vn/y7A9C

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Something promising from Bongland, by the sounds of it. Oxford Uni seems to have got something up its sleeve showing a lot of promise to the point the UK Govt has given them permission for Stage 2 trials and pre authorization of Stage 3 trials if they pass stage 2 in June.

They've also signed a global licensing agreement with GSK ready in case it is the breakthrough they hope and the Government is hurling the kitchen sink at building and making ready facilities to mass manufacture the vaccination and have a staggering 30 million doses of it ready by September.

They've also pledged to make the vaccine available to developing nations "at cost" (or damn near it).

The main thing is the UK gets to the front of the queue if it's cracked.

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

I’m really liking the new quarantine hairstyle of “I knew you weren’t a natural blonde”, it’s really funny to see. The roots don’t lie, ma’am, we see what you’re doing.
Most everyone I know has either been gaining a lot more fat because of DoorDash burgers and ice cream or actually losing some weight because they have to cook for themselves. Funny how that works, the basic math of ‘calories in and calories out’.

 

[Homegrown Homophobia]

I’m really liking the new quarantine hairstyle of “I knew you weren’t a natural blonde”, it’s really funny to see. The roots don’t lie, ma’am, we see what you’re doing.
Most everyone I know has either been gaining a lot more fat because of DoorDash burgers and ice cream or actually losing some weight because they have to cook for themselves. Funny how that works, the basic math of ‘calories in and calories out’.

I'm very proud of how much weight I've lost during this crisis, and the subsequent coronavirus tan I'm getting from being outside so much. I've even started learning basic parkour/freerunning techniques to spice things up.

No staying in the pod sucking soy and doing pilates for this wrongthinker.

 

[FatalTater]

Went shopping the other day, Walmart, Aldi, Dollar Tree. People are definately getting more confident about going out, there were fewer masks and less overall nervousness. Walmart still wasn't as crowded as it usually would have been at that time of day but there were a few more shoppers around. No one was giving a damn about those arrows and Do Not Enter stickers on the floor. I did notice more fat people than I usually see in this part of the state, not hard-working corn fed 'Muricans but pale jiggly folk that looked like they got off the couch for the first time in three months to venture to the shops for more Cheetos. It was odd. Thought about going to the recently reopened Goodwill but the parking lot was FULL. I don't like shopping in overcrowded stores even without a plague going around, so I didn't go there.

The livecams of Times Square and of various beaches show that people are going out more elsewhere too. I'm still waiting for everyone to suddenly drop dead like certain posters on other social media sites were certain would happen.

 

[Stoneheart]

They've also pledged to make the vaccine available to developing nations "at cost" (or damn near it).

they dont do that because they are good people, they just dont make much money right now. they make more money from one cancer patient than thousands of vaccine doses.

 

[NyQuilninja]

So you're saying if I move there I will be rich?

Actually it is reasonable to live there because the economy's sucks there and job markets are really bad in most of Alabama
https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/birmingham-al/mobile-al/28000
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bi...a-ranked-among-worst-states-for-jobs.amp.html

 

[No. 7 cat]

The nursing home that's closest to me is for geri psych patients.

That place fucking owns. It's where I got punched in the face. Staff isn't even wearing scrubs much less PPE. Everyone's just yelling at each other. It smells like feces. There's feces on the floor.

Smokers get their daily allotment of five cigarettes. Which are actually just Clippers I think (really cheap filtered cigars that avoid the cigarette tax.) Then they go out and staff puts special weighted vests on them so they don't burn themselves.

Somehow they have no COVID-19 cases.

It's the smoking. All at risk people should be required to smoke.

 

[Francis E. Dec Esc.]

Went shopping the other day, Walmart, Aldi, Dollar Tree. People are definately getting more confident about going out, there were fewer masks and less overall nervousness. Walmart still wasn't as crowded as it usually would have been at that time of day but there were a few more shoppers around. No one was giving a damn about those arrows and Do Not Enter stickers on the floor. I did notice more fat people than I usually see in this part of the state, not hard-working corn fed 'Muricans but pale jiggly folk that looked like they got off the couch for the first time in three months to venture to the shops for more Cheetos. It was odd. Thought about going to the recently reopened Goodwill but the parking lot was FULL. I don't like shopping in overcrowded stores even without a plague going around, so I didn't go there.

The livecams of Times Square and of various beaches show that people are going out more elsewhere too. I'm still waiting for everyone to suddenly drop dead like certain posters on other social media sites were certain would happen.

Yesterday, I went to the fancy grocery store I mentioned a few months ago that had the private security guards in Afghanistan PMC cosplay (5.11 pants, desert combat boots, rigger belts, Glocks, Oakleys, etc.) out front to enforce ~150 people at a time in the store. They were gone, nobody stopped me from walking in what used to be the exit only door, and they're slowly bringing back the bulk products like coffee and granola and candy. They've scrapped their salad and soup bar for the time being, though.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Political news update: Sanchez has finally loat his marbles. He was already gonna have a frankly near impossible task to approve the lockdown for 15 more days, and now he's had the balls to say "next extension is proposed to be of a flexible period of time of, we expect, about a month." First of, to extend more than 15 days at a time he'd need to declare "estado de excepcion", which legally can't be declared except on extremely specific moments. Secondly. More than 30 days at a time can only be declared through "estado de sitio", which can only be declared if spain is *currently being occupied by enemy forces.* so... yeah that just straight up breaks the fucking law. So at best it'd last until the supreme court tells him to put a sock in it. Or he's murdered. Either or because the spanish supreme court is corrupt as fuck really. And pretty much everyone in congress would be fucking retarded to let him get away with such obvious nonesense anyway. No one has managed to tell me what the fuck was this idiot thinking now. Either way, that's the fucking deathknell of the lockdown. It'll last till the end of this period. Which I believe lasts until next sunday. So goodbye lockdown. Yeah that literally made no fucking sense. I guess we couldn't let it lift without one last bout of clownworld seeping into reality. Fucking amazing. Each of our idiots in charge is dumber than the last. I wonder how many presidents we'll have before we finally elect one that's literally clinically braindead.

Hey @EmuWarsVeteran - forgive me if you've covered this recently... and also I'm fully aware of your stance on Catalunya...

But I have dumb affection for Girona, particularly around Roses/Cadaques. Means a lot to someone important to me. Just wondering how that particular obnoxious pocket has been faring?

Better than Barcelona that's for damned sure. I remember at some point large parts of Girona had literally 0 infected despite location. And then france fucked them over. As is to be expected. I know their economy depends greatly on exports and tourism. So they're probably currently going to hell with all the frontiers closed.

Jokes and generalizations aside. I don't know much. But from what I heard they didn't fare that poorly all in all. I mean outside of the economical disaster. And in their case it's specially bad because catalonia already had the highest criminality of spain by far. And I mean REALLY far, and with the gov having taken advantage of the lockdown to crack down on druggies catalonian drug dealers have gotten desperate and agressive. And they also have by far the largest amount of prostitutes, and with the clubs closed you can imagine how they have faired, and the gov ain't gonna give them aid because spain may be ruled by idiots, but we're not THAT stupid. So, yeah... I don't expect catalonia to fair very well in our new normal. Specially as the small biz focused model heavily assrapes the big money makers in Barcelona, as their current business strategy was to favor big biz to take control of significant parts of the spanish imports and exports, so now thst the chain's renationalizing and big bizzes are getting fucked as their smaller competitors swallow chunks of them... Well. I really would not want to be in catalonia right now. I hope they adapt and fix their issues before things really go to shit. But I don't expect them to.

EDIT: Also, I must point out, I do exaggerate my hatred for catalonia for comedy. They're certainly annoying most of the time but, we're spain, annoying each other is what we do best. And during this crisis catalonians have been far more cooperative and helpful than madrid. So if anything they've surprised me for the better.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Makes a lot of sense, particularly in the context of Barcelona. I'm reasonably well-traveled and even I was shocked by the level of criminality there, and the region in general. Probably why I found NE Girona so fucking charming.

I was hoping that little patch would go by unscathed (relatively). It's all so sleepy and chilled. Less population density I guess (not including high summer obviously - but even then, Cadaques/Port De Selva was a haven compared to the rest of the Costa Brava *puke*). That plus the Euro Riche port city/French border aspect. I remember all the rich French retiree dudes riding their motorcycles down for day trips (ya know, give the super yacht a rest) and just pissing off EVERYBODY, so not surprising those fucks ruin everything. The absence of a summer season is going to be brutal.

Thanks for the update. And of course, I take all Catalan-bashing with a grain of Sal de Anana

Oh if you mean the rural areas, they'll probably fare better than most. I mean, just look at andalucia. All the north and west is having outrageously high poverty growth. Meanwhile the rural areas in the east and Cadiz are faring pretty well. Hell with the madrid migrants Cadiz is literally doing better than pre-corona, fucking somehow. Issue is I'd expect Girona to get its migrants from Barcelona instead of Madrid, and, well, Madrid migrants are panicky and have poor social skills. Barcelona migrants are anarchists. I know who I'd prefer to have as new neighbors. Also french tourists are literally the worst. It's like on one extreme you got krauts, on the other extreme you got british teenagers and karens, and well past those if you go further into the depths of hell you get the baguettes.

 

[CeleryStalks]

Michigan, USA

Minor protest (a few dozen people) on Lake Michigan beach, in Grand Haven. Intended to reopen the beach's parking lot specifically and the state in general. Officials have since announced the parking lot would reopen May 22, but say the decision was made before the protest.

https://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/2020/05/let-mi-people-go-beach-goers-protest-whitmers-stay-home-order.html

(archive)

Personal anecdote: I saw a "Recall Whitmer" lawn sign for the first time today.

Spoiler: Michigan Recap

SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN
Shelter-in-place order from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1, Friday, May 15, May 28 May 1, maybe? (archive) (executive order saved on KF) . The Republican-controlled legislature has refused to extend Governor Whitmer's emergency authority. Governor Whitmer insists her emergency orders are all still in effect (Rundown on the laws).
State attorney general Dana Nessel (D) is also leaving enforcement of the stay-at-home order to local discretion until the courts weigh in on it (archive). She has stated Governor Whitmer's orders are valid and are to be enforced (archive). The legislature is not calling for civil disobedience at this time (archive).
The legislature has filed a lawsuit against the governor (archive). Oral arguments were heard May 15 (archive). The judge's decision is pending, but will most likely be appealed either way.
State senate leader Mike Shirkey (R) is also supporting a petition drive to change the law. Such a petition would require 340,047 signatures to be collected. It would be veto-proof if approved by the legislature, and would go on the next general election ballot if denied by them (archive 1, archive 2, archive 3).
U. S. Rep Paul Mitchell (R - The Thumb) has filed a lawsuit independently against Governor Whitmer, in federal district court. Link, pdf on KF. He has also founded a committee to work on the petition recommended by Sen. Shirkey.
There have been at least nine other lawsuits against Governor Whitmer's actions during this crisis, mostly regarding the shut-down order, in various stages of progress and in various courts (summary of eight of them). However, "all deadlines applicable to the commencement of all civil and probate actions and proceedings" are suspended until the end of the states of emergency and disaster. Executive order, and thus in limbo. (archive).

OTHER SHUTDOWNS
Recap from NPR
Major protest at the State Capitol April 15 (A&N thread). Minor protest outside Governor's Mansion April 23 (archive). Protest at the State Capitol April 30 (A&N Thread). Protest at the capitol May 14 (archive).
Auto manufacturing resuming May 18. (archive)

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Over 1 million unemployment claims filed = 10% of the total population of the state, nearly 25% of the workforce (Archive - April 16).
Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel is slowly creeping back up (website).
Car crashes are down, fatal car crashes are down, and overall death is actually down. (archive - April 12)
The State is facing a $2.5 billion budget shortage (archive).

FREE STUFF!
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive) Executive order. May or may not still be valid.
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive) Executive order. May or may not still be valid.

HEALTH CARE
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a mistake in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive). Article on results, May 8 (archive).
Elective surgeries are banned. Maybe? Who knows. If/when in effect, abortions were not included in the ban (thread).
At any rate, hospitals are resuming elective surgeries.
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South.")(government website)
State of affairs May 5 - about half as many hospitalized cases and ICU cases as on April 12 (archive).
Detroit field hospital, capacity 1,000, closed. Never had many more than 20 at any time. (archive, May 7).

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). It was an executive order. Who knows if it's still valid?
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
Detroit shootings up, but most other crime down (archive - April 30); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. (Still valid???) Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive). Multiple sherrifs from the rural north to Detroit suburbs have stated they will not be enforcing parts or the entirety of the order (archive).

OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL

The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services reviews deaths and adds overlooked cases to the count three days a week: Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. Recovery counts are updated on Saturdays.
19 deaths were added yesterday.

Regular reviews of death certificate data maintained in Vital Records reporting systems are conducted by MDHHS staff three times per week. As a part of this process, records that identify COVID-19 infection as a contributing factor to death are compared against all laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Michigan Disease Surveillance System (MDSS). If a death certificate is matched to a confirmed COVID-19 case and that record in the MDSS does not indicate the individual died, the MDSS record is updated to indicate the death and the appropriate local health department is notified. These matched deaths are then included with mortality information posted to the Michigan Coronavirus website.

Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

33,453 confirmed / 3,865 dead
33,343 confirmed / 3,861 dead yesterday
(i.e. 4 new deaths, down 14 from this day last week)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

17,689 confirmed / 1,026 dead
17,161 confirmed / 1,019 dead yesterday
(i.e. 7 new deaths, same as this day last week)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

51,142 confirmed / 4,891 dead
50,504 confirmed / 4,880 dead yesterday
(i.e. 11 new deaths, down 14 from this day last week)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 19.
We have been (were?) locked down since: March 24 (until April 30?),
Masks have been mandatory in stores since: April 27 (until April 30?).

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
15 / 69*** / 25 / 27*** / 18 / 26*** / 4 = 227***

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state and federal prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in categories of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** 19, 35, and 19 statewide deaths, respectively, were added on these days upon State review. Presumably most were in Detroit, but I don't know exactly how many.
One Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
One Flint security guard allegedly murdered for telling a woman that her daughter needed to wear a mask in a dollar store. Multiple suspects are in custody (archive, A&N thread).

 

[Mrs. Addams]

I'd love to hear more about this. Supposedly (because who trusts the news at this point?) sailors from the U.S. Roosevelt are testing positive after multiple negative tests.

https://apnews.com/0cae34376380ab4150002a58bd9934b9?fbclid=IwAR1uPRPfSjLTqBMrZBWuvnWN2jxzoSceHNkEvx81DwuZJxeEGWcxNuwHj_0

 

[Carnavoyeur]

I'd love to hear more about this. Supposedly (because who trusts the news at this point?) sailors from the U.S. Roosevelt are testing positive after multiple negative tests.

https://apnews.com/0cae34376380ab4150002a58bd9934b9?fbclid=IwAR1uPRPfSjLTqBMrZBWuvnWN2jxzoSceHNkEvx81DwuZJxeEGWcxNuwHj_0

Something to note is that it doesn't even specify that they did ever test negative. It just says they went through the 2 week isolation, and that the protocol is they have to test negative twice to get back on the ship. It could be the same as the cases in South Korea a few weeks ago where the tests were coming up positive for dead virus cells.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

I'd love to hear more about this. Supposedly (because who trusts the news at this point?) sailors from the U.S. Roosevelt are testing positive after multiple negative tests.

https://apnews.com/0cae34376380ab4150002a58bd9934b9?fbclid=IwAR1uPRPfSjLTqBMrZBWuvnWN2jxzoSceHNkEvx81DwuZJxeEGWcxNuwHj_0

I'mma bet fake news led by chink propaganda efforts. Just like these bastards recently tried to claim the chinese navy could somehow curbstomp the US navy. Just trying to instill fear in america while they consider wether or not to try and go after taiwan. Hey spoilers china, if a single one of your fucking glorified lemmings with prop guns steps on taiwan you're gonna know how genocide feels.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Grant Sanderson, an intimidatingly intelligent guy who runs the 3blue1brown channel, explains decentralized contact tracing here

https://www.numberphile.com/podcast/grant-sanderson-2
https://archive.vn/wip/ESQ9q

mp3 attached. Relevant part is at 22 minutes 55 seconds in to about 25:04

Basically there's a protocol invented by Apple and Google called DP-3T

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralized_Privacy-Preserving_Proximity_Tracing

You have a pseudo-random ID. This is shared with other phones that spend more than five minutes in close proximity to yours. At that point, everything is stored only on the phone and the pseudo-random IDs are theoretically anonymous. Then when you get infected you send your pseudo-random ID to a central server and the central server then sends a broadcast to all devices saying "ID x infected if you have it your database then tell the user to self-quarantine".

The UK didn't implement this, they implemented a centralized system where the data is stored on a central server, not the phones at all times.

I suspect something like this is inevitably going to replace lockdown.

 

[JosephStalin]

Interesting article on how France found itself ill-prepared to deal with the ChiCom Flu.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-france-lost-the-weapons-to-fight-a-pandemic/ar-BB14czW4?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=mailsignout

https://archive.vn/LdL41

 

[Simpadoo]

I'd love to hear more about this. Supposedly (because who trusts the news at this point?) sailors from the U.S. Roosevelt are testing positive after multiple negative tests.

https://apnews.com/0cae34376380ab4150002a58bd9934b9?fbclid=IwAR1uPRPfSjLTqBMrZBWuvnWN2jxzoSceHNkEvx81DwuZJxeEGWcxNuwHj_0

At the start, discussing with an engineer (Six Sigma no less), I questioned the shit going on in Italy. I also asked what the accuracy of the tests were. Engineer didn’t know and was still in a panic. When you know what should be but still throw your education out the window, you’re not an engineer, you’re a hack, a token graduate of a school. There are a lot of these “professionals “ like this out there. Trust the experts morons who can’t see you’re better off flipping a coin than taking the “experts” word for it. Too many semesters taking Women’s Studies, not enough Math. That’s where we are now. Science by consensus Ladies and Trannies!